The question I want to ask:

[poonam]

Why do we always ‘fall in love’ and why not ‘rise in love’?

Why don’t we say, “I have risen in love” instead of saying “I have fallen in love”..:)

What do ya say?
:confused:

[mbamal]

Dear Poonam,

Love is an emotion..which is not controlled by any rational disposition of the persons involved ...and more often than not..ppl fall when not in control..logically..falling in love makes more sense than rising in love..:)

[snrsingh]

Well Dear poonam !!

I will say Love is "Happening Bond" :)

At this moment I can think of this link by great Jat writer “K Rajbir Singh Deswal”

http://www.tribuneindia.com/1999/99sep24/edit.htm#4

I had initiated this thread earlier Hope you people like it:)

http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?p=68357#post68357


With Love and Respect
Surinder

[spdeshwal]

Poonamji,


'Falling in love' is climbing down or falling down from the mountain of one's ego.
Total Surrender.....total surrender is love or you can say falling in love.

Rising in love is prob. the later stage, to counter the difficulties of the life the 'lovers' rise together.


Sateypal

[sunilchhikara]

Poonamji,


What i personally think about 'Falling in love' It is a kind of attraction for a time being.:D

[positivelook]

Poonam jee

Mere khayal se falling in love jyada suitable lagta hai instead of rising in love so please agar aap iske saath ched-chad na kare toh theek hoga.

Abhimanyu Phougat

[jagmohan]

Poonam Ji,

This is the second time in life I have heard someone ask this Q. The first time it was in the Army.

Satyepal has given a very logical answer. I tend to agree with that but may be, just may be, it could be another way around.

Ye dil kabhi bhi kisi par aa saktaa hai. We all know 'Love is Blind'. Therefore, what do you expect a blind man to become when he first thinks he is in Love? Obviously he would 'Fall'!!! That's why we say 'Fall in Love' and not 'Rise in Love'. I hope I am on the right lines.

Regards,

JS Malik

[navingulia]

Ocean of Love - you can only fall into it.
You fall in love to rise in life.
Have you fallen in love with your work? Have you fallen in love with life? Have you fallen in love with the people around you (the old, the young, the kids)?

[singh1981]

U should watch Goggers's Park..............shayad answer mill jaaye..........usme bhi yahi question poocha gaya tha..........



Why do we always ‘fall in love’ and why not ‘rise in love’?

Why don’t we say, “I have risen in love” instead of saying “I have fallen in love”..:)

What do ya say?
:confused:

[raj_rathee]

Ah ! Poonam takes one of her chai-paani breaks from work and uses her
oft demonstrated brevity to engage Jatlanders in thoughtful discourse
in the finer points of love. Hmmm...An evergreen topic nonetheless so I'll
take a bite.

Well, strictly speaking the question is only relevant in the context of the
English language and not generally to the emotion of love per se. As far as I am aware "falling in love" is an English phrase, and other languages express
this phenomenon differently. I suppose in Hindi we say "pyar ho gaya"
which certainly does not imply any "falling" but merely states a fact in a
non-judgmental way, which some would argue is probably the best way of
expressing it.

That said and assuming an English centric world, I would say (somewhat
tongue in cheek): We fall in love but we "rise" while making love.
[And try as hard as I might I wasn't able to suppress my teenage
*grin* when I wrote this.]

I don't mean to play on the word "rise" and invoke the wrath of
our censors, but I think Sex is ultimately the most pure of emotions...
something that is so primitively biological and liberating.

Love on the other hand is a hodgepodge of emotions that, in my
honorable opinion, cause more harm than good. Now I don't want to
get into a drawn out discussion on this...but someone has rightly said
that love is a "brain on drugs". And I would second that to a large
extent.

Following is an excerpt from an article regarding the issue (author
is Cary Parker):

--------------------------------------------------------------------

By the time you get to "My love is love to love but to disgrace it" you begin to wonder if using this word in a sentence is really such a good idea (even if you are the greatest writer in the English language). Love is "life in death"? In the same breath? There are too many faces to this Eve, and while she obviously has many good qualities, she's into some pretty weird **** as well: sadomasochism, Satanism, iambic pentameter.

Anyone who has fallen, stumbled or been pushed into this vortex knows that falling in love not a rational act — or even a voluntary one. Some scientists claim to have the drug tests and brain scans to explain why. Choosing to fall, or with whom to fall, are not the questions. The questions are: what drugs are involved; who gives them to us; and what part of the brain kicks into action when the juices start to flow?

Professor Semir Zeki and his team of researchers at University College London have scanned the brains of 17 young men and women in love to see what changes in brain activity occur when the lovebirds ogle the photos of their loved ones. "What we have found really is extremely exciting because we have discovered that this overwhelming state of love — which mobilises your whole life — is actually controlled by four small areas of the brain." And four very powerful drugs.

There's phenylethylamine (think cocaine) which kicks in with dopamine (think more cocaine) and reduced levels of seratonin (think obsessive, compulsive, disordered, horny bastard on cocaine). Throw in a little anxiety, fear and paranoia (Norepinephrine, also known as adrenaline) and you begin to understand why Glenn Close boiled that rabbit in Fatal Attraction — love is your brain on drugs.

So it's hardly surprising that scientists (such as Dr. Helen Fisher, an anthropologist and neuroscientist (who's been shoving her own loved-up students into brain scanners at SUNY Stonybrook in Long Island) make a connection between love-sick lovers, drug addiction and mental illness. According to , falling madly in love is a crazy business. If my own informal experiments with Class A drugs and dating psychotic women is anything to go by, she is right.

Finally, there are striking similarities between fools in love and patients suffering from obsessive-compulsive disorder — a mental illness characterised by uncontrollable thoughts, actions and impulses. It's no wonder, considering what cupid is crop-dusting across the synapses. The rush of contradictory thoughts, feelings and emotions makes you think having and holding the one you're with, forever, is a not only possible, but a good idea.

It is not. Dr. Zeki's brain scans show an increased activity in four very primitive areas (responsible for pleasure, intuition, and buying the new Kylie Minogue record), there is a spooky silence on the prefrontal cortex — that part of the brain responsible for reason, comprehension, self-restraint and realizing that Kylie is crap.

For those of you who have never fallen in love, it is possible in theory, though clearly not recommended in practice, to get a quick-fix of the love potion while driving your date home, drunk, from the pub.

All you have to do is adjust your diet (get a Whopper at the drive-thru window — animal protein reduces seratonin), get some amphetamines in you (Dextroamphetamine, Benzedrine and Ritilan are available with prescription —you don't need a prescription for cocaine) and up the adrenaline pumping through your veins. (If driving drunk on drugs doesn't give you a rush, try shifting onto the wrong side of the road and driving — really fast.)

Or you can wait for the Real Thing.

[downtoearth]

mohobbat ki class ka ajaab hai dastoor
ussey chutti nahi milti,jissey sabbak yaad hotta hai

[dahiyarules]

First of all, Rathi Bhai where have you been. I see you very spontaneously now a days.


However, heres my take on it. Pyar mein padna , doobne ke maafik hai. While according to most people its falling in love, according to jats its like drowning.


Ah ! Poonam takes one of her chai-paani breaks from work and uses her
oft demonstrated brevity to engage Jatlanders in thoughtful discourse
in the finer points of love. Hmmm...An evergreen topic nonetheless so I'll
take a bite.

Well, strictly speaking the question is only relevant in the context of the
English language and not generally to the emotion of love per se. As far as I am aware "falling in love" is an English phrase, and other languages express
this phenomenon differently. I suppose in Hindi we say "pyar ho gaya"
which certainly does not imply any "falling" but merely states a fact in a
non-judgmental way, which some would argue is probably the best way of
expressing it.

That said and assuming an English centric world, I would say (somewhat
tongue in cheek): We fall in love but we "rise" while making love.
[And try as hard as I might I wasn't able to suppress my teenage
*grin* when I wrote this.]

I don't mean to play on the word "rise" and invoke the wrath of
our censors, but I think Sex is ultimately the most pure of emotions...
something that is so primitively biological and liberating.

Love on the other hand is a hodgepodge of emotions that, in my
honorable opinion, cause more harm than good. Now I don't want to
get into a drawn out discussion on this...but someone has rightly said
that love is a "brain on drugs". And I would second that to a large
extent.

Following is an excerpt from an article regarding the issue (author
is Cary Parker):

--------------------------------------------------------------------

By the time you get to "My love is love to love but to disgrace it" you begin to wonder if using this word in a sentence is really such a good idea (even if you are the greatest writer in the English language). Love is "life in death"? In the same breath? There are too many faces to this Eve, and while she obviously has many good qualities, she's into some pretty weird **** as well: sadomasochism, Satanism, iambic pentameter.

Anyone who has fallen, stumbled or been pushed into this vortex knows that falling in love not a rational act — or even a voluntary one. Some scientists claim to have the drug tests and brain scans to explain why. Choosing to fall, or with whom to fall, are not the questions. The questions are: what drugs are involved; who gives them to us; and what part of the brain kicks into action when the juices start to flow?

Professor Semir Zeki and his team of researchers at University College London have scanned the brains of 17 young men and women in love to see what changes in brain activity occur when the lovebirds ogle the photos of their loved ones. "What we have found really is extremely exciting because we have discovered that this overwhelming state of love — which mobilises your whole life — is actually controlled by four small areas of the brain." And four very powerful drugs.

There's phenylethylamine (think cocaine) which kicks in with dopamine (think more cocaine) and reduced levels of seratonin (think obsessive, compulsive, disordered, horny bastard on cocaine). Throw in a little anxiety, fear and paranoia (Norepinephrine, also known as adrenaline) and you begin to understand why Glenn Close boiled that rabbit in Fatal Attraction — love is your brain on drugs.

So it's hardly surprising that scientists (such as Dr. Helen Fisher, an anthropologist and neuroscientist (who's been shoving her own loved-up students into brain scanners at SUNY Stonybrook in Long Island) make a connection between love-sick lovers, drug addiction and mental illness. According to , falling madly in love is a crazy business. If my own informal experiments with Class A drugs and dating psychotic women is anything to go by, she is right.

Finally, there are striking similarities between fools in love and patients suffering from obsessive-compulsive disorder — a mental illness characterised by uncontrollable thoughts, actions and impulses. It's no wonder, considering what cupid is crop-dusting across the synapses. The rush of contradictory thoughts, feelings and emotions makes you think having and holding the one you're with, forever, is a not only possible, but a good idea.

It is not. Dr. Zeki's brain scans show an increased activity in four very primitive areas (responsible for pleasure, intuition, and buying the new Kylie Minogue record), there is a spooky silence on the prefrontal cortex — that part of the brain responsible for reason, comprehension, self-restraint and realizing that Kylie is crap.

For those of you who have never fallen in love, it is possible in theory, though clearly not recommended in practice, to get a quick-fix of the love potion while driving your date home, drunk, from the pub.

All you have to do is adjust your diet (get a Whopper at the drive-thru window — animal protein reduces seratonin), get some amphetamines in you (Dextroamphetamine, Benzedrine and Ritilan are available with prescription —you don't need a prescription for cocaine) and up the adrenaline pumping through your veins. (If driving drunk on drugs doesn't give you a rush, try shifting onto the wrong side of the road and driving — really fast.)

Or you can wait for the Real Thing.

[raj_rathee]

First of all, Rathi Bhai where have you been. I see you very spontaneously now a days.


However, heres my take on it. Pyar mein padna , doobne ke maafik hai. While according to most people its falling in love, according to jats its like drowning.

Well I am here Sumit, but just don't visit Jatland very frequently nowadays.
Sort of skim it every now and then. I am trying to live the "libertarian"
life (*wink*). If I understand it correctly the libertarian lifestyle puts a
premium on individual well being and economic prosperity. And I wasn't
finding Jatland contributing towards that end. Hence trying to cut down
on it. [By the way wikipedia has a good summary about Libertarianism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian ].

[poonam]

Well well well!!

Very impressive, diverse, enlightening, thoughtful and of course logical (some of them) versions from you all.

So the good thing that has ‘happened to me’ (Thanks Surinder..:) ) is that I came to know about Rajbir Deswal ji. I 'loved’ his ‘The happening bond’. Its so beautifully written, every word tells a story and fabulous expression as if someone is narrating it in person. At least I went visual while reading. Marvelous composition and actually, pretty much, relates to the mood or the inclination with which I asked the question. When I say love I don’t mean the ‘matter’ between a man and a woman. And it was enriching to see that some of you do identify with my vision of considering love as an emotion as in totality as an abstract instead of just classifying it as a matter between two opposite sex .

We tend to miss the wood for the trees. It is well known that in the context of English language it’s a phrase when we say ‘fallen in love’ and is appropriate too as far as the language is concerned. If we don’t go literal, actually it contains a hidden precious message which any emotional alive person would realize that actually you ‘rise’ when you ‘fall’ in love. Love is much higher an emotion which could 'happen' for anyone or for anything. You might fall in love with the nature or with the God, for instance. Very rightly said by dear Navin, Col. Jagmohan ji and Satyepal Deswal ji that its a total surrender and ‘Love is blind’ because its so unconditional a feeling.

Coming to Glenn Close in Fatal attraction. Would you consider that love? Absolutely unthinkable! Your brain on drugs- yes its true when you mistake ‘something else’ for love.

[raj_rathee]

When I say love I don’t mean the ‘matter’ between a man and a woman. And it was enriching to see that some of you do identify with my vision of considering love as an emotion as in totality as an abstract instead of just classifying it as a matter between two opposite sex .




I actually just read Rajbir Deswal's article, and, of
course, it deals with a different sort of love.
Unfortunately the word "love" is an extremely overloaded
term, and any interpretation is bound to be subject to
the context that it is seen in.

While "falling in love" can be expressed in the context
of having developed deep affection for an animal, it
is most commonly interpreted to mean the love between
a man and a woman (unless you live in San Francisco...
in which case you might have to consider various other
combinations/permutations).

And even then it requires further narrowing down. There
is a lot of difference between the love that exists in the
early phase of a developing relationship (call it the
"wooing" phase) when one seeks out and flirts with
someone to win them over, and the love that exists in
a mature relationship where the partners have firmly
established ties and confirmed their destinies to be
intertwined (as exists in a stable marriage).

Perhaps I am wrong but when I see the phrase "falling
in love" I usually associate this with the former
(the "wooing" phase). And in that context I will say that
the phrase "brain on drugs" is not too far off the mark.
I suppose one has to experience it to truly appreciate
the points expressed by Cary Parker in the excerpt
I provided above. I would say that love tales
that we are so familiar with (the Lila-Majnu, Heer-Ranjha
ones) would be apt illustrations of the "brain on
drugs" classification. Strange things do happen to the
people involved and their thought processes and
behaviour aren't exactly balanced.

I suppose the extent to which people are affected would
be represented on a sliding scale. Its not black and
white.

Perhaps Rajvir Deswal's article is more appropriate
expression of the love that exists in established
relationships, specifically that which exists between
married couples.

So I think the bottom line is that when raising any such
question, the scope and context would need to be firmly
nailed down.

[poonam]

the scope and context would need to be firmly
nailed down.

Sure Sir..:) :)

[raj_rathee]

Sure Sir..:) :)

The QUEEN of brevity !!!!
:eek: :D

[mukeshkumar007]

akele LOVE ko lekar itne long long post likhe ja sakte hai....:confused: :confused:

amazing....

[abhirana]

akele LOVE ko lekar itne long long post likhe ja sakte hai....:confused: :confused:

amazing....

love mein akele nahi hote...saath mein koi aur bhi hota hai...

so be in love and then see

either you'll write such long posts or you'll forget what to write...;)

padhe ja aur enjoy karta rah...:)

[raj_rathee]

akele LOVE ko lekar itne long long post likhe ja sakte hai....:confused: :confused:

amazing....

:p
Mukesh Yaar, aap apne new year resolution ka dhayan rakh kar padhai mein jute
rehna...kahin aaltoo-faaltoo cheejo mein ghus jao. Phir, USKE BAAD,
make lots of money. Enjoy lots of women. Koi pyaar shyaar ka tension na
lena. Kucch nahi dhara uss mein...yeh rise wise karan mein kucch na
rakha.

:cool: :eek:

[cooljat]

poonam maam,
pyaar kiya nahin jata ho jata hai,
same like that u only can fall in love accidently ;)
btw only lucky fool fall in luv :)
coz all r fool for luv ;)

i think u got it :)


rock on
Jit

[mukeshkumar007]

:p
Mukesh Yaar, aap apne new year resolution ka dhayan rakh kar padhai mein jute
rehna...kahin aaltoo-faaltoo cheejo mein ghus jao. Phir, USKE BAAD,
make lots of money. Enjoy lots of women. Koi pyaar shyaar ka tension na
lena. Kucch nahi dhara uss mein...yeh rise wise karan mein kucch na
rakha.

:cool: :eek:

Thankyou bhai raj.. I will keep ur suggestions in mind..

[lucky]

one person question have u been in love if yes then u should have know u donot rise u bow down to that person so u fall. :rolleyes:i am bad in explaing things. :rolleyes: :D but try it u would know it



Why do we always ‘fall in love’ and why not ‘rise in love’?

Why don’t we say, “I have risen in love” instead of saying “I have fallen in love”..:)

What do ya say?
:confused:

[lucky]

bad if u think fool fall in love then my parents are one of them i think i would be in thier path.:D hope so:rolleyes: :eek: . but one thing is for sure it is pain in head and lot of tension.:eek: :mad: BETTER BE FAR FROM IT


poonam maam,
pyaar kiya nahin jata ho jata hai,
same like that u only can fall in love accidently ;)
btw only lucky fool fall in luv :)
coz all r fool for luv ;)

i think u got it :)


rock on
Jit

[snrsingh]

Dear Poonam and all

Now this platform I suppose is rather small, and my definitions are huge, long-winded pieces with all sorts of parallel, opposing thought trains about “Love”. I am quite terrible in expressing myself in these short, brilliant, insightful statements everybody seems to come up with, but even in all my self confessed modesty

I thought “Sacrifice” – “An act of true love”,

Surinder


Well well well!!

Very impressive, diverse, enlightening, thoughtful and of course logical (some of them) versions from you all.

So the good thing that has ‘happened to me’ (Thanks Surinder..:) ) is that I came to know about Rajbir Deswal ji. I 'loved’ his ‘The happening bond’.

[suchitraa]

love is like a never ending sea of emotions.the deeper u go the more u know.

i think when u r in luv u have no control on urself.all ur actions,all ur thoughts belongs to sumone else.i think thats y they say people fall in luv.:)

[devdahiya]

FALL : LOOSE ONE'S CONTROL;LOOSE POWER,BE CAPTURED OR CONQUERED.

[ above discription fits the bill as far as falling in love is concerned]


RISE : Move from a lower position to a higher one,rebel, start to blove, become higher.

[none of the meaning comes near LOVE...as love is a sentiment of equality]


Hope it satisfies people.