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rkumar
January 8th, 2006, 06:21 PM
Dear Friends,

With all the media bias against Gujarat government, US denying him the VISA and what not, this is what Gujarat CM said in front of the galaxy of national and International leaders;

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-1363452,curpg-1.cms

As per Mr Modi, Gujarat is to be compared with China and Japan and not with other Indian states. No one seem to have counteracted his statements. If rate of growth in Gujarat is 15.6% and national average is 7%, one can imagine the fate of other states. I wonder what has been the figure for states like Haryana. Let us forget about UP and Bihar, for which I am sure it would be zero or even negative. Having lived in Gujarat, I accept Mr Modi's statement on water management. High time rest of India takes some lessons from Gujarat, at least on water management.

Rajendra

dahiyarules
January 8th, 2006, 06:29 PM
For once, I hope that people will realize all development is because of private entreprenuership.

More privatization = More Growth = Less Government

How many times do I have to keep telling eveyrone that we need more commercial freedom in our country to grow faster.

devdahiya
January 8th, 2006, 07:48 PM
For once, I hope that people will realize all development is because of private entreprenuership.

More privatization = More Growth = Less Government

How many times do I have to keep telling eveyrone that we need more commercial freedom in our country to grow faster.


I second Sumit with an addition that Final say with the Govt. Nice topic to discuss. Thanks Rajendra ji for posting this thread.

raj2rif
January 8th, 2006, 08:13 PM
I think it is all about management and exploiting the opportunities. The reasons for Gujrat's growth have two major factors to contribute to it. Firstly, Mr. Modi's own contribution. Inspite off all the negative propoganda against him calling him communal, he has struck to the basic principal of good governance. I have heard people from Gujarat saying that there is much less corruption under Mr. Modi's government rather than any previous governments in the state. I really don't know how far that is true, but considering the development that has taken place in the state, under Mr. Modi, it looks to be true some what.
The second factor is the contribution of Gujarati's staying abroad and in India. They have responded to Mr. Modi's call. A whole lot of money pours into Gujarat from NRI's, I would say more than any other state per say. Only states that probably can match Gujarat in this may be Andhra Pradesh, Punjab and Kerala.
Good luck to Mr. Modi and Gujarat state. I wish more state chiefs can emulate him, rather than getting involved in vote bank appeasement.

rkumar
January 8th, 2006, 11:35 PM
I am highly impressed with Modi's management of relations with NRIs. I have been receiving personal emails from him every year on Navratri occasions. He makes it a point every year to brief everyone on the developments in Gujarat and invites us all to join him in celebrating Navratri festival. Its really heartening to see Sabarmati river full of water round the year these days. Mr Modi has vitalised even river Saraswati in Gujarat. We hardly hear any infighting among his cabinet colleagues. On the contrary look what we hear every third day from Haryana. Prasanni Devi snatching mike from Dr Kadiyan, Jr. Bhajan Lal issuing statements against functioning of state government. I tried my level best to send an email to UP CM regarding some regional issues. With great difficulty I could his email ID, but never got any response even from his secretary. As far as M.P. is concerned, less said the better. One rarely hears about any development talks. Lately of course we have started hearing better news from Bihar. Let us hope Bihar takes off under Nitish Kumar. Look at Punjab where one hears nothing other than fighting between political parties. In west Bengal the communists have all the time to be spoilers for every national cause but have no time for their own state's development.

RK^2

ramksehrawat
January 9th, 2006, 01:32 AM
Rajendraji, there are good administrators and honest people in almost every party including Congress. However, the congress culture especially that of "appease Nehru/Gandhis and enjoy power" has taken them nowhere. I was of the veiw that having seen bad days this culture will fade away and they will start serving those who elect them but they belied all hopes. Am sorry this personality worship has destroyed a good party. Mody has no alternative but to deliver. He is pressed from all sides so hard that a slight slackness will dump him to dustbin. He has not even joined the rat race which other BJP 2nd rung leaders are engaged but am of the view that he will emerge winner one day just by holding Gujarat under his grip. One more stint and he and his state will see new heights.

Why this is not happening in Haryana or UP. In UP for a long time now we have only ad hoc governments. Mulayam and Mayavatis are like Rahu and Ketu in UP who are devoid of any plans for development. They believe only in putting one caste against other. Caste equations are working for them and forcing others too to tread the same path. As long as caste equations will work in UP development will remain only a dream. Whatever little development has taken place is not because of any government initiative but due to sheer hard work of the people of western UP. Even if the revenue generated from Western UP is utilised fully and honestly, UP could have easily been the number 1 state. The only solution in sight seems to further divide the state as it will not only make it easy to administer but also disturb the caste equations.

Haryana being a small state, enjoying proximity to national capital, having no serious caste or communal strife is potentially the best state and has infact sometimes taken a few baby steps towards becoming number one state but faltered owing to weak, incompetent leadership, corruption has remained where it is today. Bhuppi Hooda has given hopes but the congress culture makes me skeptical. The 'makoda politics" where everyone is pulling the legs of everyone else to reach "sonia durbar" is not going to do any good to Haryana and its people.

dndeswal
January 12th, 2006, 07:34 PM
I agree with R.K. Sehrawat's views. Still, people have hopes from the Haryana CM. But with every passing day, on account of acute shortage of electricity (even in these winter months - what would happen in coming summer), lack of other facilities (transport, water supply etc.) and rampant corruption in govt. departments, the hopes of Haryana's people have started fading away. The 'darbar' politics will take this state nowhere despite announcement of so many new projects. Gujarat is a shining example of peace, prosperity and progress under Modi's leadership.

positivelook
January 13th, 2006, 11:09 PM
Hi Members

As we all had expected alot from Hooda govt. when He became the CM of Haryana but in his 10 months period we heard lots of announcements and we have seen one foreign visit but still there is nothing new going on in Haryana. We cant compare Hooda with Modi cos Modi is really a aggresive leader than Hooda and Haryana govt. is not only Hooda govt. its Sonia govt. also. Sometime i feel ashamed when we see Our CM to go to Sonia Darbar for very small matters. In the last ten months we have seen that Hooda govt. have no Hold on Beaurocracy.
Modi ne Gujrat mein jo kiya woh Hooda jee toh shayad hee kar payenge kyonki iske liye Doordarshita, Dabang svabhav ur bold hona padta hai jo Hamare CM se mel nahi khata. Jaago Haryana Govt. Jaago.

Abhimanyu Phougat

rkumar
December 24th, 2007, 12:57 AM
Mr Modi is again back with thumping majority. Electrotes have voted for Mr Modi based upon his performance, clean administration and development of Gujarat. Voters no more bother about trivial things it seems. Let us hope rest of India follows same path and votes only for those who perform.

RK^2

snandal1
December 24th, 2007, 01:43 AM
Hi Members

As we all had expected alot from Hooda govt. when He became the CM of Haryana but in his 10 months period we heard lots of announcements and we have seen one foreign visit but still there is nothing new going on in Haryana. We cant compare Hooda with Modi cos Modi is really a aggresive leader than Hooda and Haryana govt. is not only Hooda govt. its Sonia govt. also. Sometime i feel ashamed when we see Our CM to go to Sonia Darbar for very small matters. In the last ten months we have seen that Hooda govt. have no Hold on Beaurocracy.
Modi ne Gujrat mein jo kiya woh Hooda jee toh shayad hee kar payenge kyonki iske liye Doordarshita, Dabang svabhav ur bold hona padta hai jo Hamare CM se mel nahi khata. Jaago Haryana Govt. Jaago.

Abhimanyu Phougat

Hooda asked Chautala about reservation of Jats but forgot when he himself can implement it now.

snandal1
February 27th, 2008, 01:18 AM
Mr Modi is again back with thumping majority. Electrotes have voted for Mr Modi based upon his performance, clean administration and development of Gujarat. Voters no more bother about trivial things it seems. Let us hope rest of India follows same path and votes only for those who perform.

RK^2

kalkhandeji CM has his own limitations.:) so the best way is to give reservation to jats. but he is right at his own place. when haryana jats do not press him like rajasthan jats what can he do?:)

fatehsingh
February 27th, 2008, 03:48 AM
Dear Friends,

With all the media bias against Gujarat government, US denying him the VISA and what not, this is what Gujarat CM said in front of the galaxy of national and International leaders;

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-1363452,curpg-1.cms

As per Mr Modi, Gujarat is to be compared with China and Japan and not with other Indian states. No one seem to have counteracted his statements. If rate of growth in Gujarat is 15.6% and national average is 7%, one can imagine the fate of other states. I wonder what has been the figure for states like Haryana. Let us forget about UP and Bihar, for which I am sure it would be zero or even negative. Having lived in Gujarat, I accept Mr Modi's statement on water management. High time rest of India takes some lessons from Gujarat, at least on water management.

Rajendra
http://www.indianexpress.com/story/218431.html



HARYANA :THE GROWTH ENGINE OF PRESENT INDIA

The regional distribution of investment in states offer some surprises and reinforces some stereotypes. Haryana and Orissa are witnessing big gains in investment, while Rajasthan, U.P and Bihar remain BIMARU. We examine data on projects under implementation in various states in the CMIE Capex data base. We compare data for June 2007 with June 2005 to assess how a state has fared on investment compared to its previous performance. For proper comparison we rank states acccording to projects under implementation on a per capita basis. See table below. The most striking change is in Haryana which has seen the biggest change in investment. Ten years ago, it was at rank 14 and five years ago it was at rank 13. Now, it stands at rank 1, with investment under implementation of Rs.78,500 per capita. Orissa is also a major gainer, particularly over the last five years. It went from rank 8 to rank 2 over the last five years. While the Indian average for projects under implementation on a per capita basis grew by 93%, Orissa gained by 381% over the last five years to reach Rs.61,811 of investment per capita. Himachal Pradesh has seen sluggish growth of just 14% compared with five years ago. It has slipped from rank 1 to rank 3, and now has investment of Rs.58,974 per capita. Gujarat witnessed growth of 85%, which was slightly worse than the national average growth of 93%, in the last five years. It now stands at rank 4, with investment per capita of Rs.41,585. Uttarakhand grew a little worse than Gujarat, gaining 73% to go from rank 3 to rank 5. It now has per capita investment under implementation of Rs.34,858. Jharkhand has got dramatic growth of 331% in the last five years, and has thus gone from rank 14 to rank 6. It now has per capita investment of Rs.33,828. Karnataka gets written about as doing well in IT, but the situation on investment is not good. While the Indian average gained 93% over the last five years, Karnataka gained only 59%. It hence went from rank 5 to rank 7. It now has per capita investment under implementation of Rs.30,560. Andhra Pradesh has had growth of 80%, which is similar to the national average of 93%. With this, it stands at rank 8, with investment of Rs.22,317 per capita. Tamil Nadu has done shockingly badly in the last five years. In 2002, Tamil Nadu was at rank 4, with investment of Rs.19,981 per capita - this was almost double of the national average. In the last five years, it witnessed growth of only 1% while the national average moved forward by 93%. Today, Tamil Nadu is at investment under implementation of Rs.20,243 per capita, which is just a bit ahead of the national average. It has dropped to rank 9 compared with rank 4. Maharashtra has also underperformed in the last five years. It got growth of just 50% while the national average grew by 93%. It went from rank 7 to rank 10. It is now just slightly above the national average with investment under implementation of Rs.19,303 per capita. Jammu and Kashmir has got poor growth of just 22% over the last five years, much below the national average of 93%. With this, it ends up at rank 11 with investment per capita essentially at the national average of Rs.19,091. The remaining states have investment per capita of below the national average of Rs.18,901 per capita. Chattisgarh has grown in line with the national average growth and stands at Rs.18,582 of per capita investment under implementation. Kerala got poor growth of 73% while the national average grew by 93%. It has dropped from rank 10 to rank 13 in the last five years, and now has investment per capita of Rs.18,110. Punjab has done badly, dropping from rank 11 to rank 14 with growth of just 52%. It now stands at Rs.15,861 per capita, clearly behind the national average of Rs.18,901. West Bengal has gained dramatically over the last five years, growing by 202% while the national average rose by 93%. Through this, it went up from rank 17 to rank 15. However, in absolute terms, the situation is poor, with investment of Rs.14,467 per capita, which is behind the national average. The bottom five slots in the ranking are occupied by Assam and the BIMARU states. Of these, Madhya Pradesh and Assam have got credible growth rates of 80% and 87%, both of which are within striking range of the overall average growth of 93%. Uttar Pradesh has done poorly in the last five years, but it managed growth of 64%, which is not that far from 93%. It is interesting to note that the states of Chattisgarh, Jharkhand and Uttarakhand, all of which are breakaways from BIMARU states, appear to be faring better than the BIMARU states themselves. While BIMARU states are a problem, the number of people who are living in BIMARU states is much lower than it was before these three new states were created. The worst situation is found in Rajasthan and Bihar. Rajasthan got growth of 10% and Bihar got growth of -3%. Rajasthan now has investment of Rs.5304 per capita and Bihar is at Rs.2911 per capita - both of which are vastly below the national average of Rs.18,901 per capita.

fatehsingh
February 27th, 2008, 03:55 AM
Haryana, Delhi top best states' list
http://www.rediff.com/money/2007/oct/23hary.htm

When it comes to financial health Haryana, Delhi, Orissa are the best performing states in the country, while Bihar, Jharkhand and Kerala need to cut both fiscal and revenue deficits, an Assocham study has shown. Haryana had the minimum fiscal deficit of 0.6 per cent in financial year 2006-07, though marginally up from 0.3 per cent in the previous year.

New Delhi was at the second spot with 0.7 per cent fiscal deficit while its revenue account showed a surplus of 3.57 per cent.

Though Orissa recorded the fiscal deficit of 1.1 per cent in FY'07, higher than 0.4 per cent in FY'06, it managed to remain well under the three per cent figure as recommended by the 12th Finance Commission.

Its revenue surplus has increased from 0.76 per cent to 0.9 per cent during the same period. Gujarat (2.5 per cent), Chhattisgarh (2.6 per cent), Tamil Nadu (2.7 per cent) and Karnataka (2.8 per cent) are the other states which have been able to keep their expenditures in the financial year 2006-07 in line with the target of 3 per cent fiscal deficit. But in view of the continuous high fiscal and revenue deficits witnessed by Bihar, Jharkhand and Kerela, the financial stability of these states may become a matter of concern, the Assocham Eco Pulse study revealed.

As per the study, the gap between the total receipts and expenditure of the state governments, as measured by the ratio of gross fiscal deficit to gross state domestic product (GSDP), has been widening during last two years. The study is based on the data provided by RBI, ministry of finance and budget documents of the states.
Bihar, which tops the chart on this count, has recorded a rise in the fiscal deficit from 6.1 per cent in the financial year 2005-06 to 10.4 per cent in FY06-07. The revenue earnings also fell short of the revenue expenses by 1.14 per cent in FY'07.

"There are many factors which can be attributed to the wide fiscal gap in some of the states, including growing interest payments, pension liabilities, unrestrained administrative expenditures, low growth in tax collections," Assocham President Venugopal Dhoot said. Jharkhand is also facing the problem of huge fiscal deficit of 10.1 per cent in FY07, though it has recorded a marginal decline from 10.3 per cent in FY06.

Kerela is facing huge budgetary imbalances with the fiscal deficit rising from 3.5 per cent in FY06 to 6.1 per cent in FY07 and revenue deficit burgeoning to 4.36 per cent in financial year 2007 from 2.6 per cent in the previous year. But the collective figures of the states present a different picture.

The aggregate revenue deficit has been continuously declining in the past two years from 1.2 per cent in FY05 to 0.04 per cent in FY06, the financial year 2007 witnessed revenue surplus of 0.01 per cent. The overall gross fiscal deficit of the state governments, measured in proportion to GDP, has witnessed a marginal increase from 2.4 per cent in FY06 to 2.6 per cent in FY07.

The 12th Finance Commission has set the target for the states to achieve a revenue balance by 2008-09 and restrict fiscal deficit to 3 per cent by 2009-10. While eight states have become revenue surplus in FY07, seven states have reduced their fiscal deficit within the limit of 3 per cent.

fatehsingh
February 27th, 2008, 04:03 AM
HARYANA NO.3 IN STATE WISE PER CAPITA INCOME AFTER DELHI AND GOA
http://www.livemint.com/2008/01/21174558/Jharkhand-and-Orissa-register.html
New Delhi: Jharkhand and Orissa are growing at a frenetic pace in terms of their per capita income, owing to a massive thrust that industrial activity has received in the two mineral rich states while Karnataka, Gujarat and Tamil Nadu have maintained leads among other states.
According to an Assocham Eco Pulse (AEP) study on ‘States performance in per capita income’ has highlighted that Jharkhand, with per capita income of Rs14,990, has registered 16.6% growth. With an abundant resource of mineral and other natural resources, the state has been receiving investment proposals in steel, cement and power sectors, giving necessary push to its economy, providing sufficient employment opportunities.
With influx of huge capex by the large industrial houses in the core infrastructure sector, Orissa is witnessing a rapid rise of 11.5% in income distribution (Rs14,795).
Per capita income reflects on the purchasing power and standard of living of the people of each state. For inclusive growth, it is necessary for the states to put in efforts to raise the income attributable to each person.
Buoyed by huge investment flow, rising employment opportunities, increasing foothold of service-based sectors, southern states of Karnataka and Tamil Nadu and industrialized Gujarat rank among the top states with per capita income more than the all-India average of Rs20,734 (in FY06).
Karnataka tops the chart of well-to-do states with fastest growing income per person by 9.28% at Rs21829 for the FY 2006. Gujarat’s average income per person rose to Rs26,543 with growth of 8.92%. Per capita income in Tamil Nadu was recorded at Rs24,308 with rise of 8.46%. Noticeably, these best performing states are among the 10 most populous Indian states with more than 54 million population each.
However, Delhi and Goa, relatively smaller states, have highest per capita income at Rs49172 and Rs47507 but the rate of growth is relatively lower at 6.9% and 6%.
The state of Chhattisgarh struggling at political, social and economic front, witnessed 8.8% growth, though average income base remains very low at Rs16,365.
Development plans in Madhya Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh and Bihar are yet to take off as they remain at the bottom of the pyramid with lowest per capita incomes of Rs12566, Rs10637 and Rs6610 growing at the slowest rates of 2.9%, 3.1% and 3.7% respectively.
Per capita income in 17 states was growing below the national average of 8.4% while per capita income for the Indian economy grew to Rs22,483 in FY07 from Rs20,734 in FY06.
Maharashtra, with the largest state domestic product and major recipient of foreign as well as domestic investment, has witnessed a healthy growth rate of 7.3% in its per capita income (29,085). Another state to record above 7% growth was Uttaranchal, though the income base was low at Rs20, 328 per person in fiscal 06.
Haryana, with prosperous farm sector and booming IT, real estates, engineering and construction activities, has the third largest per capita income of Rs 29,887 growing at 6.5%.
West Bengal, despite having the fourth largest population, has managed to raise its per capita income at a rate of 6%, owing to massive investment plans in sectors like steel, real estate, power, retail and IT. The average income per person was recorded at Rs 20,485 in the fiscal 2005-2006.
There were states where the effect of overall economic boom was not reflected in their per capita income. While the state domestic product of Kerela and Andhra Pradesh grew by 8.8% and 7% respectively, average income available to each person grew by 5.9% each.
Per capita income in scarcely populated Himachal Pradesh rose at a moderate growth rate of 5.34%. As the state remains predominantly dependent on tourism sector, the level of industrial investment remains low. Per capita income was recorded at Rs27,162 in fiscal 06.
Growth in the prosperous state of Punjab seems to have stalled as rise in per capita was estimated to be mere 2.9%, even though it has the fifth largest per capita income of Rs28,605.

fatehsingh
February 27th, 2008, 04:13 AM
I agree with R.K. Sehrawat's views. Still, people have hopes from the Haryana CM. But with every passing day, on account of acute shortage of electricity (even in these winter months - what would happen in coming summer), lack of other facilities (transport, water supply etc.) and rampant corruption in govt. departments, the hopes of Haryana's people have started fading away. The 'darbar' politics will take this state nowhere despite announcement of so many new projects. Gujarat is a shining example of peace, prosperity and progress under Modi's leadership.
dayanand deswal ji haryana is way better than gujrat on most of the parameters.....thing is that gujrat government believe in propganda and advertisement and where we jats are not attention hungry.........dont you know patels?????
they are way behind thn haryana rite now.

fatehsingh
February 27th, 2008, 04:21 AM
Mr Modi is again back with thumping majority. Electrotes have voted for Mr Modi based upon his performance, clean administration and development of Gujarat. Voters no more bother about trivial things it seems. Let us hope rest of India follows same path and votes only for those who perform.

RK^2
Left parties are ruling the west bengal since last three deacdes....and every year they emerge more stronger thn the last year......once bengal was the best state in india but today its one of the worst on economic parameters........ .....caste,religion,weak opposition parties,regionalism,local issues..matters more for the indian people..........

ygulia
February 27th, 2008, 05:59 AM
Statistics provided by Fateh Singh are quite encouraging and I agree with him up to a large extent. Haryana is far better than Gujarat.

Yoginder Gulia

mann123
February 27th, 2008, 07:54 AM
Data is after all data why don't we come down to haryana and see how it is developing , how is it's villages and moreover how is the resources.

Here is my analysis

1. Infrastructure (Electricity, roads, transport & air transport)

Electricity: No electricity no organised cuts, even Invertors have bad time these days don't know what will happen in summer.

Roads: they are maintained as they were in last govt. specially rohtak delhi highway, which should be four lane siting the traffic on it. Kharkhoda to gohana, Panipat to gohana, Karnal to yamuna nagar, kaithal to kurukshetra all seems to crying for help.

Transport: Road transport is good as it was 5 years back.

Air transport: No air transport multiple anouncement has been done in last 7-8 years but nothing has been done.

2. Jobs: Young educated resources are still playing cards in chaupal there is no jobs and even land is also decreasing as land acquisition drive by the govt. is on the rise.

3. Govt offices environment: Still the same as it was now they have certain price even attestation of certificates by any officials requires money apart from relations.

this is long story and can be extended as much as you want and I know nothing will change even after this govt. But we have lot of expectation from this govt as they have some of the good educated leaders and who can utilise there skills just like Modi is doing in Gujrat. rest depends on them...............

spdeshwal
February 27th, 2008, 09:04 AM
You are right Fateh Singh Ji in your observation that better Propaganda/ PR management by Modi Govt. has helped him. Even the outside people are aware of the things happening in Gujrat but on the other hand so much has been done and is being done in Haryana by the present regime but people with in the state are not aware. One exaple of better PR is given by Sh. Rajender himself in his second post.

It is high time for Mr. Hooda and his PR team to let people know about things they have done and and intend to do. For example I was told by some visiting friends who were sympathiser with Sh.Choutala and one of them an aspirant for Ticket from Meham but lauded the development and welfare projects being undertaken and certain things the public by and large not aware.

Another grey area is poor control over bueaurocracy that is spoiled for years under successive governments needs tighter control. Although they said this jokingly about Deepender but indicates a softer approach, that whenever he called on some officer or they call on him for some instructions/ advise/ scolding and at the end ob the meeting/ briefing, he would ask about the welfare of their kids. According to them although it is very humane approach but conveys a wrong signal for the lazy bureaucrats.

Anyways, thanks for sharing good information. It makes me feel really good to know that so much good is happening at home. Keep informing.


Cheers.

fatehsingh
February 27th, 2008, 01:29 PM
Data is after all data why don't we come down to haryana and see how it is developing , how is it's villages and moreover how is the resources.

Here is my analysis

1. Infrastructure (Electricity, roads, transport & air transport)

Electricity: No electricity no organised cuts, even Invertors have bad time these days don't know what will happen in summer.

Roads: they are maintained as they were in last govt. specially rohtak delhi highway, which should be four lane siting the traffic on it. Kharkhoda to gohana, Panipat to gohana, Karnal to yamuna nagar, kaithal to kurukshetra all seems to crying for help.

Transport: Road transport is good as it was 5 years back.

Air transport: No air transport multiple anouncement has been done in last 7-8 years but nothing has been done.

2. Jobs: Young educated resources are still playing cards in chaupal there is no jobs and even land is also decreasing as land acquisition drive by the govt. is on the rise.

3. Govt offices environment: Still the same as it was now they have certain price even attestation of certificates by any officials requires money apart from relations.

this is long story and can be extended as much as you want and I know nothing will change even after this govt. But we have lot of expectation from this govt as they have some of the good educated leaders and who can utilise there skills just like Modi is doing in Gujrat. rest depends on them...............
Roads:kundli-manesar expressway is more thn enough for haryana in provindIing the boost for the basic infrastructure as it comes to roads its a chain reaction..government have to provide good links from all over the state to the expressway...as around the expressway a industrial and real estate corridor is gonna come up...
jobs: i m not goona talk about the promises of the state government....if you look at the statistics unemployement is a NATIONAL ISSUE not a regional issue..wat do you think in gujrat there is no issue relating to unemployement...for your information haryana is at par with gujrat in employement moreover HARYNA GIVES THE HIGHEST WAGES TO ITS WORKERS IN ALL INDIA
http://myiris.com/newsCentre/newsPopup.php?fileR=20070325013736091&dir=2007/03/25




3.Environment: environment of haryana and its government is way better thn gujrat...No communal tension in the state like gujrat....for your kind information for the first time industrials like mukesh ambani(gujrati) and sabeer bhatia are investing its capital in north india and they have chosen haryana coz of its location and envirnment...the blame game of opposition parties is far more worse in gujrat thn haryana....less crime thn gujrat rite bnow in haryana
4.Airports: Delhi airport is not more than 350 km away from any part of haryana....and more over a airport is coming up in mohali as well....in gujrat people use mumbai airport most of the time as ahemdabad airport is more thn 700 km from their destinations

I m saying haryana is developing and rite now far better thn other state ..there are still some issues like electricity .....

fatehsingh
February 27th, 2008, 01:51 PM
You know wats the differnece between a american and a english
american at any cost will take the credit
english at any cost will not take the blame
there is nothing wrong in blaming the government but blame it for rite things...like electricity....one of the member blaming the government for roads and infrastructure eventhough we are the best in india when it comes to roads...every single village is connected by pakka roads in haryana..in gujrat have you ever been to kutch side??????
you can blame haryana for roads if you compare it with texas but surely not in case of gujrat.............start taking the credit now where its due...thats why usa is superpower and uk is a past superpower.....PR matters most in todays world....we Jat like english always talks about izzat thats good but we always forget about the reputation...patels like americans always takes credit..but hardly gives a **** about the blames....example communal and regional issues...grown up jats

fatehsingh
February 27th, 2008, 02:12 PM
The Gujarat government will pay Apco 25,000 USD (1 million rupees) per month for the Modi image building exercise
http://www.spinwatch.org/content/view/4384/9/
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AHMEDABAD: Adolf Hitler was a brilliant propagandist. Narendra Modi too believes in the power of image.

Which is probably why the chief minister hired a US lobbying firm which has serviced clients like former Nigerian dictator Sani Abacha and President-for-life of Kazakhstan Nursultan Abishuly Nazarbayev.
This Washington-based firm, Apco Worldwide, was hired by Modi sometime in August this year, in the run-up to an important Assembly election, to improve his image before the world community. Among its recent clients are Mikhail Khodorkovsky, a former Communist youth leader-turned-Russian billionaire with mafia links.

The firm has a distinction of taking contracts of boosting images of leaders who fell out of favour of their followers.

On the face of it Apco Worldwide's brief is to build and sell Brand Gujarat to the international community. But according to sources Modi, who was denied visa by the US earlier because of the taint he earned in the 2002 riots, wants his image to be improved so that he gets to visit the US in future.

The Modi regime feels lobbying is required to attract much-sought after foreign direct investment (FDI) which has been a cause for concern even though Gujarat is topping the charts among Indian states in terms of overall investments, according to latest statistics brought out by the Reserve Bank of India.

Modi, of course, still nurtures the wish to get an US visa and some of his NRI friends have advised him to use the services of lobbyists for the same. Sources in the government told TOI that if it works and Modi comes back to power, Apco's contract will be renewed in January for Vibrant Gujarat 2009, the event that Modi prides himself in, for bringing investments to the state.

The Gujarat government will pay Apco 25,000 USD per month for the Modi image building exercise.

Sources in the government said Modi thought of this image-building exercise during his visit to Switzerland earlier this year. His government shortlisted some seven national and international firms, without floating tenders of which two were shortlisted. Even though it quoted a sum that was three times more than others, Apco was picked for the job.

The reason given was that Apco has a better team. Apco has former senators from Republican and Democratic parties working with it.
THEY TAKE PR so seriously AND in our case we jats always neglects it.
one thing is sure apco doing its job better thn it was expected.....specially in haryana hahahah
IF MR HOODA HIRES A FIRM MOST OF THE MEBERS HERE WILL SAY......WASTAGE OF MONEY...HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING FROM A GUJRATI?????NO, COZ THEY BELIVES IN CREDIT

fatehsingh
February 27th, 2008, 02:21 PM
Data is after all data why don't we come down to haryana and see how it is developing , how is it's villages and moreover how is the resources.

Here is my analysis

1. Infrastructure (Electricity, roads, transport & air transport)

Electricity: No electricity no organised cuts, even Invertors have bad time these days don't know what will happen in summer.

Roads: they are maintained as they were in last govt. specially rohtak delhi highway, which should be four lane siting the traffic on it. Kharkhoda to gohana, Panipat to gohana, Karnal to yamuna nagar, kaithal to kurukshetra all seems to crying for help.

Transport: Road transport is good as it was 5 years back.

Air transport: No air transport multiple anouncement has been done in last 7-8 years but nothing has been done.

2. Jobs: Young educated resources are still playing cards in chaupal there is no jobs and even land is also decreasing as land acquisition drive by the govt. is on the rise.

3. Govt offices environment: Still the same as it was now they have certain price even attestation of certificates by any officials requires money apart from relations.

this is long story and can be extended as much as you want and I know nothing will change even after this govt. But we have lot of expectation from this govt as they have some of the good educated leaders and who can utilise there skills just like Modi is doing in Gujrat. rest depends on them...............
thats wat you call JAATTU thinking......WHY YOU DONT TRUST THE DATA FOR HARYANA.....WHEREAS YOU ACCEPT THE DATA FOR GUJRAT WHY????? WHAT ABOUT THE GROUND REALITIES IN GUJRAT...ARE THEY IRRELEVENT......THEY ARE TAKING CREDIT ON DATA AND FOR US ITS NOT RELEVENT>>>..WHY?????

jitender_singh
February 28th, 2008, 12:14 AM
haryana's development is more because it surrounded the delhi region...
and ambani's know it very well..
its not because of present or past government..
electricity seems to be a very big problem in haryana..
regarding efficient adminstration read below :-


MD/MS entrance test results
Candidates cry foul, varsity says fair
Tribune News Service

Rohtak, February 26
The controversy over alleged irregularities in the results of the MD/MS/MDS entrance examination conducted by Maharshi Dayanand University (MDU) recently has intensified with many unsuccessful aspirants alleging that several PG seats had been sold to undeserving candidates.
The “affected” candidates today staged a demonstration in front of the MDU vice-chancellor’s office and raised slogans against the university authorities.
They also submitted a memorandum to the MDU vice-chancellor, Prof R.P.Hooda, and demanded that the entrance exam should be conducted afresh.
In the memorandum, it has been demanded that the entrance test should be cancelled and the whole matter thoroughly probed.
However, the VC maintained that the exam as well as the marking had been conducted in an objective manner and there was nothing wrong with the results. Meanwhile, a group of candidates also met the Chief Minister and sought his intervention in the matter



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Industrial Plots

BJP for CBI probe into allotments
Tribune News Service

Chandigarh, February 26
The Haryana unit of the Bharatiya Janata Party today demanded a CBI inquiry into the allotment of industrial plots by the Bhupinder Singh Hooda regime in the past three years.
Addressing a press conference here senior BJP leader and vice-president of the party Gian Chand Gupta said that the PIL filed in the Punjab and Haryana high court exposed the “transparent and honest working” of the Hooda-led government.
The PIL had stated that a number of ministers, senior politicians and bureaucrats had been allotted industrial plots in Bhiwani.
Gupta said the plots were meant for those running small industries or those who had lost their existing plots to the acquisition process.
“The Chief Minister has been crying hoarse about how ‘above board’ his government is and that everything is done in accordance with the rules. How will he explain these allotments, which cast a shadow over the government’s claims of honest and fair working? What is the difference between former CM Om Prakash Chautala, who was accused of more scams than one, and Hooda? ” he stated, adding that “favouritism” in allotments was responsible for the growing number of educated unemployed youth.
Varinder Garg, president, investor cell, Haryana, said that if this was what the government was doing in the name of industrialisation, there was little hope of the state’s progress.
Criticising the Haryana government for inaugurating the Yamunanagar Thermal Plant well before it was ready, Gupta asked how the government plannned to compensate the people for the inconvenience. “They spent public money on organising a grand show. Ultimately, not a unit of power has been produced at the plant. We are of the opinion that the Chief Minister was in a hurry to inaugurate the plant to save the private company from penalty. Now, they can hardly make up for the lost time.Everything is running behind schedule because of which the government is being forced to impose a penalty,” Gupta explained. He also demanded that Congress MP from Hisar Jai Prakash should resign since his name had come up in the investigation of the kidney scam. “If he doesn’t resign, the Congress should take action against him,” he held.





Sisters’ Murder
Investigation passed on to CBI
Yoginder Gupta
Tribune News Service

Chandigarh, February 26
The CBI will investigate the murder of two girls whose bodies were found on the rail track at Prithla village of Faridabad district. According to information received here today, union minister of state Suresh Pachauri has issued a directive to the premier investigating agency.
The case had assumed importance because a panchayat of 52 “khaps” had alleged that a Congress MP and two union ministers were shielding the culprits. While demanding a CBI investigation, the panchayat had named the politicians suspected to be protecting the culprits. Later, a delegation of the panchayat, led by Palwal MLA Karan Singh Dalal, had met Chief Minister Bhupinder Singh Hooda, who had agreed to refer the case to the CBI. Sources say it was only after the Chief Minister spoke to Pachauri that the CBI agreed to take up the case. Known as ‘prithla kand’, the incident had angered the residents of the area. The bodies of Manju and Mithlesh, both real sisters, were found on a rail track after they went missing while they were returning from their college. The incident was followed by large-scale mob violence. Postmortem of the bodies conducted at the Rohtak Medical College revealed “attempt to rape” and death due to strangulation. The Ballabhgarh CIA staff without any tangible results investigated the case

ajayrohtak
May 11th, 2008, 04:43 PM
[quote=jitender_singh;162411]haryana's development is more because it surrounded the delhi region...
and ambani's know it very well..
its not because of present or past government..
electricity seems to be a very big problem in haryana..
regarding efficient adminstration read below :-

Being near the delhi Is That the fault of haryana??????
Every state has its benefit of resources...some has coal, some has petroleum,some has rivers, some has tourism..and some has political power if they have nothing....haryan is not so rich in natural resources...so god gave it New delhi as a natural resource....thats why today our land prices are hovering in the skies....we haryanvis are lucky that we are near the delhi...just think haryana with same resources some where near the Chattisgrah?????....in that case all of us have to come to delhi like biharis for the work or employement.

rabbu
May 11th, 2008, 05:31 PM
....haryan is not so rich in natural resources...

So there is no doubr that we ( Haryanvies ) are very lucky due to that we lives in the left or right of the delhi. So we are very lucky. There is no doubt that we have no natural source of Income but we hv the good options in the Haryana that is more industries in Gurgaon, it means that mainly revenues comes from the Gurgaon district and some revenues come from the farmers that which we grow the crops.

and the main reason that all haryanvies are very hard worker, and the other thing is that ki ABHI TAK BHAGWAN KI DAYA SE HARYANA PE KABHI KOI BADI PRAKARTIK VIPPATI NAHI AAYE HAIN , YEH BHAGWAN NE ABHI TAK HAMARE UPPER DAYA KAR RAKHI HAIN, SO WE ARE THE VERY THANKUFUL OF GOD.

Thanx alot
Baaki Agle Episode main padhne ko milega.

Thanx alot

With Best Regards