Valentines' Day

[c.p.chhikara]

Dear Friends,
:cool: :cool:
I welcome all the Jatland memebs to send their views on Valentines' Day. Why we celebrate this day and is it fit for our society, or it is only for marketing strategy.

Is din main kewal market ko badhawa dene wali bat hai. Har company apna apna maal bechne ki koshish main lagi hai.
:cool: :cool:

[sansanwalamit]

So what's wrong in some companies making profit out of it. I certainly find it much better than commercialising Holi, Diwali or Christmas. The day is about spreading love and I believe love can never be wrong or bad.
Happy St. Valentine's Day :)

[mukeshkumar007]

Happy St. Valentine's Day :)

Bajrang dal walo ko bulawo kya ?:mad:

[deepakdahiya]

Right chhikara ji,

selling valentine day cards and organising parties on the day is not respecting love.....

In our Indian Culture all day's are valentine day and we can't wait for 14 feb to express our love or celebrate only a single day for love....
like repecting Father on father's day,
and Mother on Mother's day.........only


It also changes the values of our culture......by motivating young youth to participate in it or by advertising it to a great extent

Our society and me too is not againt it but every thing is fair when it is in limits............


Now a day's FM also promoting it by show nam,e " Love Ke Kede ".......in this u can be the valentine of a girl by sending SMS to her ....somthing like that,....


...............many other factor's are also there//,,,,


Haan Mukesh bhai.......Rahe Baat Bajrang dal ke to ....i salute them for their work for Hindu Society


^^DD

[reenakhatri]

I do agree with Amit Sansanwal, Every think is commercialized, There is no harm to go for marketing strategy, it a Business,be it any occassions.And if people adopt to some extend this so called western culture and if does'nt harm anybody, I thing there is no reason to question V-day. Democracy prevails here.

[mukeshkumar007]

does one really need to express his/her love to someone ? I strong believe if you have deep faith in someone then it can be easily observed by him/her. Love don’t need of valentine failentine ? faltu ke chochle hai yeh…. bina matlab maie pyar pyar ki rat lagaye rehte hai…..
yeh valentine to abhi aya hai iska matlab pehle log pyar karna nahi jante the ?

[deepakdahiya]

waise rena ji..ek baat batao

Who's ur valentine:o ..is it ur husband ( if married) or if not then kon he wo lucky person....Just Joking:p :p

Dekhye Bura mat manna Valentine day he...ha ha

^^DD


I do agree with Amit Sansanwal, Every think is commercialized, There is no harm to go for marketing strategy, it a Business,be it any occassions.And if people adopt to some extend this so called western culture and if does'nt harm anybody, I thing there is no reason to question V-day. Democracy prevails here.

[downtoearth]

guys i would b very happy,, if i got a chance to see yr posts over teez n saankraat.... rather than x mas n valentine...:cool: .. ram ram

[sameer_rtk]

Dear all,
I feel no probs in celebrating valentine’s day but I feel that we are forgetting our festivals in the storm of foreign marketing. The upcoming children are much more familiar to valentine day, rose day etc than our festivals. So, I personally feel it is up to an individual what he/she likes.And i prefer that we all should go back to our roots and don’t forget where we came from.

Sameer Dahiya.

[reenakhatri]

Every body knows India is our country and we all love our country then why there is only 15th Aug and 26th Jan to celebrate that day JUST "to shout MERA BHARAT MAHAN", it can be celebrated every day. "Love should be from within why do we express that - every body knows and love india".
We celebrate diwali, holi ,christmas what ever, why to make a issue ,we can celebrate it without experessing, why we waste one month before diwali for celebration what for.I f there is any logic in celebrating 15th Aug and 26th Jan, diwali holi etc then definately there is logic for V-day also.
Pehle bhi log pyar express karte the isliye to kabutar se pagiam bhajte the waqt beetne ke sath sath they started with letter. Agar Indian History padhi ho to. As far as faltu ke chochle, ye chochle nahi these are mode to express in 21st century after letters.
In this fast moving world nobody has time to look within without expressing.

Every thing is materialistic.

[mukeshkumar007]

. Agar Indian History padhi ho to. As far as faltu ke chochle, ye chochle nahi these are mode to express in 21st century after letters.
In this fast moving world nobody has time to look within without expressing.

Every thing is materialistic.
heheheheh

everything is materialistic but after that love exist...what a joke :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

btw yeh bi bata dijiye ki valentine ke bare maie janne ke liye mujhe Indian History ki konsi book padni chiye :confused:

[reenakhatri]

Ye Baat Book Padhne Ki Ya Padhane Ki Nahi Hi Its Just The Question Of Expression Thats It
Ok

[reenakhatri]

Mr Mukesh
everything is materialistic AND love exist thats why (ONE DAY )14TH Feb is there so that people can take time from their busy schedule to express themselves and to celebrate.

If u dont believe in V-Day then its OK. NO ONE IS FORCING U TO BELIEVE.

Its just the views nothing else

[dndeswal]

Mr Mukesh
everything is materialistic AND love exist thats why (ONE DAY )14TH Feb is there so that people can take time from their busy schedule to express themselves and to celebrate.

If u dont believe in V-Day then its OK. NO ONE IS FORCING U TO BELIEVE.

Its just the views nothing else

"Everything is materialistic - and love exists" : do you want to say love is also materialistic? Why to waste time on this site for discussing such an event? There are thousands of sites where such messages could be put. This disease of "Valentine Day" has erupted in India 10 years back after globalisation started. Many of the Westerners and those putting such material on websites etc. do not know what is the meaning of "LOVE". Love with whom? We all love (or hate) each other in one way or the other. Don't you recognise that it is a cultural invasion on our country of 1100 million (in their view, just "Consumers") - so that the young generation forgets our traditional values and MNCs start selling their useless products (greeting cards etc. - imagine one card is sold for as high as Rs. 50 or even 100 !)

By the way, you have not answered the question of Deepak Dahiya : Who is your Valentine?

I do not want to hurt anybody's sentiments. But this is not our culture at all.

[itsnavin]

Reena ji...tell me how many muslims Valentine's day manatey hain...
Also, why do we need Valentine's day to show our love to someone. Kya musalman kisi ko pyar nahin karte? Aur karte hain to Mr. Valentine ke kandhon(shoulders) par kyon nahin chadd jaatey...

summary is...we indians, say hindus, very easily accept any other religions customs but others are not like us.

Did u think sometime...Dusshera is a festival of 'Victory of good over evil' and this issue is accepted everywhere in the world...then why don't the whole world celebrate Dusshera...

Valentine's day manao...lekin usse pehle thoda soch bhee lena..aankh moond ke na chalya karte!

[mukeshkumar007]

bhee ..aankh moond ke na chalya karte!

Navin Bhiya, main problem to yehi hain ki ham ankhe khol kar nahi chalte...aaj agar koi naya concept ata hai to bina soche samje uske ache bure effect dekhe bina uske piche padh jate hai.....

btw reena madam go throug this thread...in this thread same topic had been discussed ....

http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7377

[downtoearth]

so that the young generation forgets our traditional values and MNCs start selling their useless products (greeting cards etc. - image one card is sold for as high as Rs. 50 or even 100 !) exactly deswal sir..... indeed u rock man

[dahiyarules]

If it was all about Valentines Day, I think every day is a Valentines Day for those who are in love.

I still remember how madly I was in love with this girl from High School. But I was just not what she was looking for.

I burnt my fingers so badly becuase of that experience that now every day is like moharram for me, when it comes to love and relationships. I dont give a crap about Valentines day or companies making big bucks selling paper cards.

Nothing matters when it comes to Love. It should not be meausred by the money value of the cards and gifts that you can buy.

[cooljat]

bhai diljale mri sympathy tere saath hai....but I wonder jib tene dil hi jala liya tha pher aangli jalane ki ke jaroorat thi :rolleyes:

Btw tere liye ye din mohram ki jaisa hai ye sun ke mera ko to hanste hanste heart attack aa gaya...abhi escorts hospital delhi se bolu hoon....naa bera kal valentine day ki subha dekh paaonga ya nahin ;)

Happy Vday to u all u nice ppl in luv & affection whatever :)

ram ram

rock on
Jit

If it was all about Valentines Day, I think every day is a Valentines Day for those who are in love.

I still remember how madly I was in love with this girl from High School. But I was just not what she was looking for.

I burnt my fingers so badly becuase of that experience that now every day is like moharram for me, when it comes to love and relationships. I dont give a crap about Valentines day or companies making big bucks selling paper cards.

Nothing matters when it comes to Love. It should not be meausred by the money value of the cards and gifts that you can buy.

[dahiyarules]

Hahaha! Jit yaar. You are funny.

Dekh yaar everything has a bright side to it. I dont give a damn about that girl anymore. When she turned me down, I realized other beautiful things in life. Like my mother and my brother. We grew closer. Sometimes we just do not realize that those who love us the most are right around us. And then you know that I did nothing after high school for a long time. As a result of this incident, I had more time to focus on my life and career goals. I left for the US for higher studies. It further made me stronger and turned me into a man.

Now I have left my ma in charge of this department. I dont think girls are worth my time and attention. They come dime a dozen.

So mere pyare Jat bhaoiyon! stop wasting your time and money at Archies Galleries and Hallmark stores. Tell your girlfriends that since you feed them and treat them all year round, today is the day they can have for themselves to take some time off and buy you gifts and treat you.

Isnt it unfair. We treat women all the time, we take them out, pay ofr their shopping bills, feed them at fancy restaurants, and then do everything all togehter again on Valentines day. :D

bhai diljale mri sympathy tere saath hai....but I wonder jib tene dil hi jala liya tha pher aangli jalane ki ke jaroorat thi :rolleyes:

Btw tere liye ye din mohram ki jaisa hai ye sun ke mera ko to hanste hanste heart attack aa gaya...abhi escorts hospital delhi se bolu hoon....naa bera kal valentine day ki subha dekh paaonga ya nahin ;)

Happy Vday to u all u nice ppl in luv & affection whatever :)

ram ram

rock on
Jit

[sampuran]

bhai diljale mri sympathy tere saath hai....but I wonder jib tene dil hi jala liya tha pher aangli jalane ki ke jaroorat thi :rolleyes:

Btw tere liye ye din mohram ki jaisa hai ye sun ke mera ko to hanste hanste heart attack aa gaya...abhi escorts hospital delhi se bolu hoon....naa bera kal valentine day ki subha dekh paaonga ya nahin ;)

Happy Vday to u all u nice ppl in luv & affection whatever :)

ram ram

rock on
Jit

Thakar bhai,
Ram Ram. Thas good humour.


About the topic all I can say is

Kauwa chala hans ki chaal apni bhi bhool baitha.

Hum nahin ban sakte gore, chahe kitni imandari se unki hep practices ko apna lein.

[sampuran]

Hahaha! Jit yaar. You are funny.

Dekh yaar everything has a bright side to it. I dont give a damn about that girl anymore. :D

Sumit bhai yo photu mein naya valentine to na hai ?/:p

[jagmohan]

Isnt it unfair. We treat women all the time, we take them out, pay ofr their shopping bills, feed them at fancy restaurants, and then do everything all togehter again on Valentines day. :D

This is because contrary to what you believe that 'Girls are Dime a Dz', it is the other way round!!!! LOL...

[positivelook]

Bhaio yah khabar padhiya. Mukesh bhai aap toh jaroor padhiyo. Well this is wht Newspaper say i dont know its true or not.


http://www.bhaskar.com/defaults/national_indexhindi7.php

Abhimanyu Phougat

[c.p.chhikara]

Dear Jatland Friends,

Thanks to all friends who has sent their views and it is necessary in democratice country but we have to see also our moral value and our society value first. Love is O.K. but "fuhadpan" or "dikhawa" is not necessary if you want to propose somebody, then why 14th February.


Thanks

[reenakhatri]

Hi

Firstly,I have not put first Question of Valentine on this site.I just expressed my views and I thing I have right to do that, If "NO" then let me know I will GIVE UP THIS SITE.
You people are talking about customs, traditions, values. Yes, I do agree with you, India is an ocean of knowledge. We have every thing in India be it language, be it knowledge, be it anything then why people are sitting abroad.. They should be in India.
Greeitng cards are on diwali,holi,birthday and so on V day.If Indians can adopt their language(I mean english), latest technology, fashions and what not then ..................? V-day.And even Muslims celebrate V-Day, manatey to hai strength kam sahi so what
If people are not accepting our customs, traditions, they are also not forcing us to accept their customs and traditions.

aankh moond ke na chalya karte! chalye hi Jaabae tae log Hindustan chod ke boosre desh main pauch jaha hi.

Its depends on individuals way of thinking,And no thinking is alike

[lokeshpawar]

Bhaio yah khabar padhiya. Mukesh bhai aap toh jaroor padhiyo. Well this is wht Newspaper say i dont know its true or not.


http://www.bhaskar.com/defaults/national_indexhindi7.php

Abhimanyu Phougat

Thanx Abhimanu
This is really a news, a new one.
This news need to be circulated to all Indians especially to shiv saniks and also to various international media agencies. it will give new dimensions to 14 FEB.

With Smiles and Roses,
Lokesh.

[reenakhatri]

Thanks for the news

May be after reading this news that 14th Feb that is V-Day is Indian origin may affect some of view also.

Regards

[jagmohan]

Here is a news item.
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(Jyoti Kamal, CNN-IBN), Updated 1144 hrs IST (+GMT 5:30), 14.02.06

Chochra (Haryana): The low sex ratio and a consequent dearth of marriageable girls in Haryana is leading to a bizarre practice. When girls are not available, there is no option but to buy them from distant areas.

A case in point is Poonma Devi, who lives in Chochra village in Haryana. She is not a native, but belongs to Paonta Sahib area bordering Himachal Pradesh and Uttranchal. She was brought to Haryana for marriage as her husband's family could not find a suitable match in and around their area. It is a common practice in the state to bring girls after paying huge sums of money.

"Girls are brought from Uttranchal and Himachal for marriage. Fifteen to 16 of them are from Uttranchal, Dharamshala etc. They are brought by middlemen and agents and some are also bought through acquaintance," a villager, Anil Kumar, said.

Poonma Devi may look different with her features that set her apart. But like many other women she has settled into the village life in Haryana. Upon asking how she manged to reach the village, she gives a vague reply. "People came from here searching for someone and asked me to marry here. I myself said yes. Then my brothers came and found out here and said okay. I then said yes and got married," she said.

The entire village is a witness to similar women exchanges and there are at least 15 to 20 brides in Chochra bought from places outside Haryana. However, this figure is not confirmed since any attempt to find out whether these women have been coerced into marriage is avoided.

The village Sarpanch (head) says there is no option but to get women from outside. "There is a shortage all over Haryana, India, people do wrong things and abort female fetuses. It is a very wrong thing. Bad situation in villages. Men say they want to get engaged. How can I do it? Where are the girls? All over India it’s the same, bad state," Sudama Ram says.

Surprisingly, there are several posters in the village that profess against women trafficking labeling its as immoral. Despite this, brides are being bought and exchanged and with it, it has brought another curse of female foeticide in many villages like Chochra.
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[ramksehrawat]

What a pity, een angrejan ne mhari roti aur halwe ka bhi na bera aur hum unke gobar nai bhi chaat chaat khagye. Apne festival kad ayen aur kad chale gye kise nai nahi bera pat ta par Valentine Day ka intjaar 3 mahine pahle se hi karne lag jate hain. "Mera desh mahan aisa hi chalta rahya to sharmayega shaitan". God bless our present day laila majnus.

[reenakhatri]

Disappointment hui ki ek Senior Citizen and using such a language.

To phir Hindustan chod ke USA nahi jana chaiye tha.

[dndeswal]

Disappointment hui ki ek Senior Citizen and using such a language.

To phir Hindustan chod ke USA nahi jana chaiye tha.

Reena ji,

Bura maan-ne ki baat nah sey. Sehrawat ji USA mey hain par unko apne Indian customs se kitnaa pyar hai ! Mey-bhi USA mey raha hoon, aur ab Switzerland mey baitha hoon - par na to apni culture chhoddi aur nah european culture apnaayee. My family too is in USA and we never celebrate such a non-sense event.

You have earlier said Muslims also celebrate V-day. NO ! Maybe a few of them in India only ! Nowhere else - in USA or in Europe too where they are living for centuries. Reason? They are sensitive to their traditional values unlike our youngmen and girls who are an easy target for Western commercial interests for making India a huge bazaar with 110 million "consumers".

Even Chritsmas has been commercialised by these vested interests to sell their products. And there is a hue and cry among European societies that people are forgetting Jesus Christ and X-mas is being celebrated as a funfare, rather than a pious festival.

But if elderly people in India warn the younger generation against this V-day business, they are called backward or 'Dakiyanoosi'. What a pity !

Your quote from earlier page:
aankh moond ke na chalya karte! chalye hi Jaabae tae log Hindustan chod ke boosre desh main pauch jaha hi.

- Aankh moond kar hum nahin chal rahe - ye V-day manaa-ne wale Indian youth chal rahe hein. 15 years back, there was no such thing in India.


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[jagmohan]

Just to put things in perspective. Below are some of the quotations from well known people about India. We are our biggest enemies... Though this may seem irrelevant here, but at least people would read it because V Day ke chakkar mein abhi to bahut kuchh kahna sun na baki hai...
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It is true that even across the Himalayan barrier India has sent to the west, such gifts as grammar and logic, philosophy and fables, hypnotism and chess, and above all numerals and the decimal system. - Will Durant (American Historian, 1885-1981)

Whenever I have read any part of the Vedas, I have felt that some unearthly and unknown light illuminated me. In the great teaching of the Vedas, there is no touch of sectarianism. It is of all ages, climbs, and nationalities and is the royal road for the attainment of the Great Knowledge. When I read it, I feel that I am under the spangled heavens of a summer night. - Thoreau (American Thinker)

If I were asked under what sky the human mind has most fully developed some of its choicest gifts, has most deeply pondered on the greatest problems of life, and has found solutions, I should point to India. - Max Muller (German Scholar, 1823-1900)

The Sanskrit language, whatever be its antiquity is of wonderful structure, more perfect than the Greek, more copious than the Latin and more exquisitely refined than either. - Sir William Jones (British Orientalist, 1746-1794)

The surgery of the ancient Indian physicians was bold and skilful. A special branch of surgery was dedicated to Rhinoplasty or operations for improving deformed ears, noses and forming new ones, which European surgeons have now borrowed. - Sir W. Hunter (British Surgeon, 1718-1783)

After the conversations about Indian philosophy, some of the ideas of Quantum Physics that had seemed so crazy suddenly made much more sense. - W. Heisenberg (German Physicist, 1901-1976)

In the great books of India, an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old intelligence, which in another age and climate had pondered and thus disposed of the questions that exercise us. - R.W Emerson (American Essayist, 1803-1882)

In religion, India is the only millionaire......the One land that all men desire to see, and having seen once, by even a glimpse, would not give that glimpse for all the shows of all the rest of the globe combined. - Mark Twain (American Author, 1835-1910)

It is already becoming clear that a chapter that had a Western beginning will have to have an Indian ending if it is not to end in the self-destruction of the human race. At this supremely dangerous moment in history, the only way of salvation for mankind is the Indian Way. - Dr Arnold Toynbee (British Historian, 1889-1975)

If there is one place on the face of this Earth where all the dreams of living men have found a home from the very earliest day when man began the dream of existence, it is India. - Romain Rolland (French Philosopher, 1886-1994)

In India, I found a race of mortals living upon the Earth, but not adhering to it, inhabiting cities, but not being fixed to them, possessing everything, but possessed by nothing. - Apollonius Tyanaeus (Greek Traveller, 1st Century CE)
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[gsvijay1]

If there is one place on the face of this Earth where all the dreams of living men have found a home from the very earliest day when man began the dream of existence, it is India. - Romain Rolland (French Philosopher, 1886-1994)


Very well said!!!

Lets respect each other feelings.

We exchange gifts & greeting cards on all Indian festivals, why its big deal when young people do the same on 14th feb. Everyday is holi/diwali/V'day for a happy person.

If you go to ISKON temple, in Stockholm, you can see more goora people singing bahajans & performing pooja's then Indian people.

Have a great v'day.

[reenakhatri]

Maine kya galat kaha hai.I just said If u love ur India why ur abroad thats it. Phir Kyu desh chod chod ke ja rahe ho.
India se Pyar hai Phir bhi rehna videsh main hai, mano ya na mano.

I think you have not read an article in Danik Jagran.Pls go through that article. Moreover ,If V-day happens to be the origin of India then it will be definately acceptable to all. As far as customs,tradition,values are concerned, if you are really so bothered about these come to India and do some work to save custom traditions values which you thing is affected by this so called V Day business.
Really a pity!

[downtoearth]

As far as customs,tradition,values are concerned, if you are really so bothered about these come to India and do some work to save custom traditions values which you thing is affected by this so called V Day business.
Really a pity! well said reena,, if u want a thing well done, do it urself

[sampuran]

Very well said!!!

Lets respect each other feelings.

We exchange gifts & greeting cards on all Indian festivals, why its big deal when young people do the same on 14th feb. Everyday is holi/diwali/V'day for a happy person.

If you go to ISKON temple, in Stockholm, you can see more goora people singing bahajans & performing pooja's then Indian people.

Have a great v'day.

Goora people singing bhajans does not corrupt their society, nor does it commercialise Iskon.

As far as that report in Dainik Bhaskar is concerned, its about expression of love between husband & wife. Not any and everyone.

[positivelook]

Dear members

Well i dont know who is roght or wrong but upto some extent i feel there is no harm in celebrating a day for expressing love. Afterall we all are in 21st century so dont think its wrong anyway but its upto u guys whether u want to go ahead or not. Well those who have problems they can stop their family and frends for doing this. Afterall india is a free country.

Abhimanyu Phougat

[arunshamli]

Maine kya galat kaha hai.I just said If u love ur India why ur abroad thats it. Phir Kyu desh chod chod ke ja rahe ho.
India se Pyar hai Phir bhi rehna videsh main hai, mano ya na mano.

I think you have not read an article in Danik Jagran.Pls go through that article. Moreover ,If V-day happens to be the origin of India then it will be definately acceptable to all. As far as customs,tradition,values are concerned, if you are really so bothered about these come to India and do some work to save custom traditions values which you thing is affected by this so called V Day business.
Really a pity!


No comments for V-day ....apni apni choice hai....
but what you are saying about people living in USA and their love towards the country...I have a little objection...

pahale toh aap ye link padho,aapko pata chalega ke NRI india me kitna paisa bhejte hain...
http://ia.rediff.com/money/2005/dec/08remit.htm?q=tp&file=.htm


aur paisa kamane ke liye aadmi ghar se bahar jate hee hain....isme burai kya hai....agar jayda log bahar aayenge toh desh me berojgari kee samasya kam hogi......;) agar koi aadmi Delhi se Bangalore service karne jata hai toh uska Delhi ke liye love kam ho jata hai kya??????? this does not a lot of sense to me that if you love your country why do you go to USA......:confused:


Valentine day manane ke saath saath thoda apne khayalat ko bhee modern kijiye...

Abhee bhee agar USA walon se koi dikkat hai toh aapki marji....

[ramksehrawat]

Dear Reena,

You have every right to object to language. But I stick to it. It's not that I have anything against VDay. I am very much in USA and have seen people celebrating VDay in US too. Here, I or my sons don't celebrate VDay but definitely celebrate our own festivals. Exactly a month ago we had celebrated sakrant and enjoyed desi ghee ka choorma. Here VDay is celebrated in true sense. People here celebrate it with love, decently and in full knowledge of their parents. There was hardly noticeable here. Whereas in India Vday means something else. On this day indecency is at its peaks. Those who disagree, go to Connaught Place or Chankya cinema next VDay and see yourself how young kids, barely 15 years behave publicly. VDay is for expression of love. I admit it is a good thing to let the other partner know about one's feelings. But crossing the limits of decency is no expression of love. Let's face the truth. Parents of how many Vday celebrators in India know about the boy friends of their daughters or vice versa. In USA people visit each other's house to present flowers. Why can't they do this in India? Because they know from their hearts that it is not our festival and is totally against our culture. Still they don't want to lag behind in proving their ultra modernism. It's not love but sheer "pakhand" and "dhong".

Incidently, this epidemic has not spared even the so called modern jats. I wonder how many of them know about sakranti, teej and googa festivals, leave alone their knowledge of seedha or kothli !!!

[reenakhatri]

S.Singhji, baat to "expression" ke hai na, that also for someone special.

Arunji, Naaraz kyu hote ho. I just experssed my views on somone's view related to customs, traditions values. I just didnt mention the name ok
I read your article, that I also know, but tell me what is relation of that article with customs traditions values of which some people talk about. Which I have mentioned in my article even.
Baat ghuma phira kar phir wahi aa jati hai money, commercialization, marketing strategies etc. etc etc etc ………….. Aur phir insan paisa kamata hai aapne lieye.Jahan tak berojgari kee samasya hai wo wahi ke wahi hai there is no difference ke log bahar jaiye ya yahi rahe. Jitne logo ko rojgar milta hai utne hi line laga ke rojgar ke liye khade hai.
Jahan tak mere khayalat ka sawal hai how do u know mere kya khayalat hai.thora bhaut likhne se khayalat ka pata nahi chalta.I have just commented my views to the views of people or u can say I have just replied to that. thats all.

Anyways There is no end to these discussions.

[reenakhatri]

Uncleji Namaskar,

Its the thinking that matters, no thinking is alike that can't be changed.

Regards

[singh1981]

yaar ye jo culture/fest. naam ki cheez hai ...kahin defind nahi hai......jab jayda se jayda log ek cheez ko support karne lag jaate hain....to vo culture baan jaata hai.......
pahle kuch logon ko laga ki laga hame diwali/holi manani chahiye.....dheere -2 aur logon ko bhi ye thik lagne laga........phir isae dharam kai saath jod diya aur ye indian culture main shaamil ho gaya.....

abhi kuch logon ko lagta hai ki hame V-day,X-day celebrate karna chahiye.....aur agar maas ko ye thik laga to ye bhi valid ho jaayega...aur ho sakta hai baad main iske saath kisi dharmic ghatna ko bhi jod diya jaaye ...jaise ki is din shri raam nai pahli baar sita ko dekha tha ya phool diya tha:D ya isi din se shri krishan ka radha ji kai saath prem shuru hua tha .......:eek: aur tab ye bhi hamare culture main shaamil ho jaayenge......

abhi isi weekend hamare ghar main ek hawan tha......vo hamare ek guru ji nai kiya tha...jo ki arya samaji hain......unki kuch baatein mujhe bahut sahi lagi....
jaise unhone kaha ki manushe ki jivan ek nadi kai saman hona chahiye jo raaste main aaye usae apnaye aur aage badhti chale......agar haam apne aap ko ek cheez kai saath baandh kai rakhte hain to hamari halat talab jaise ho jaayegi....jisme dheere-2 gandgi ikadhi honi shuru ho jaayegi.......:)

so chill out man.....jo acha lage usae apnao......jo na lage usae chodo aur aage badh jaayo ....par valid reason hona chahiye ek hame vo kyon ganda laga....isliye nahi ki ye hamare culture kai khilaf hai....ya kuch bhi change ho to hame uske against hona hi hai.....

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Sukhbir

[vijay]

What a pity, een angrejan ne mhari roti aur halwe ka bhi na bera aur hum unke gobar nai bhi chaat chaat khagye. Apne festival kad ayen aur kad chale gye kise nai nahi bera pat ta par Valentine Day ka intjaar 3 mahine pahle se hi karne lag jate hain. "Mera desh mahan aisa hi chalta rahya to sharmayega shaitan". God bless our present day laila majnus.



Respected Sir,

You have evry right to express your thoughts. But i expected some decent words from you instead of these type of words. As what type of language a person uses in a debate is the mirror image of that person.


Regards

[vijay]

No comments for V-day ....apni apni choice hai....
but what you are saying about people living in USA and their love towards the country...I have a little objection...

pahale toh aap ye link padho,aapko pata chalega ke NRI india me kitna paisa bhejte hain...
http://ia.rediff.com/money/2005/dec/08remit.htm?q=tp&file=.htm


aur paisa kamane ke liye aadmi ghar se bahar jate hee hain....isme burai kya hai....agar jayda log bahar aayenge toh desh me berojgari kee samasya kam hogi......;) agar koi aadmi Delhi se Bangalore service karne jata hai toh uska Delhi ke liye love kam ho jata hai kya??????? this does not a lot of sense to me that if you love your country why do you go to USA......:confused:


Valentine day manane ke saath saath thoda apne khayalat ko bhee modern kijiye...

Abhee bhee agar USA walon se koi dikkat hai toh aapki marji....






Hi Arun,

No objection for the NRI people. They are doing great job indeed.

The point is that if our people can go abroad and mixed up there why some people trying to stop Indian celebrating some days which are supposed to be their customs. Everybody has right to adopt or reject any custom. Why some people trying to impose their thoughts on others by critisizing in that indecent language.

That's all.

[vijay]

Dear Reena,

You have every right to object to language. But I stick to it. It's not that I have anything against VDay. I am very much in USA and have seen people celebrating VDay in US too. Here, I or my sons don't celebrate VDay but definitely celebrate our own festivals. Exactly a month ago we had celebrated sakrant and enjoyed desi ghee ka choorma. Here VDay is celebrated in true sense. People here celebrate it with love, decently and in full knowledge of their parents. There was hardly noticeable here. Whereas in India Vday means something else. On this day indecency is at its peaks. Those who disagree, go to Connaught Place or Chankya cinema next VDay and see yourself how young kids, barely 15 years behave publicly. VDay is for expression of love. I admit it is a good thing to let the other partner know about one's feelings. But crossing the limits of decency is no expression of love. Let's face the truth. Parents of how many Vday celebrators in India know about the boy friends of their daughters or vice versa. In USA people visit each other's house to present flowers. Why can't they do this in India? Because they know from their hearts that it is not our festival and is totally against our culture. Still they don't want to lag behind in proving their ultra modernism. It's not love but sheer "pakhand" and "dhong".

Incidently, this epidemic has not spared even the so called modern jats. I wonder how many of them know about sakranti, teej and googa festivals, leave alone their knowledge of seedha or kothli !!!




Respected Sir,

What you think ? The happenings at Connaught Place or Chanyka cinema is due to V - day. I don't think so. these things happens there rest 364 days of the year too.

This V - day is not responsible for that. You said that they are mostly very young. Whom are you blaming for that. You can't blame V - day or western culture. The people to blame for that is their parents and teachers. They don'e even try to teach them their Sanskars. Parents don't have time for their kids. Even parents don't care where were their young son or daughter the whole night because they themselves were busy in parties.

You said that your son don't celebraete V - day. It's because you had time for your son to teach your sanskars and values.

In india, mostly in metros, life is totally different. The mature genreation is leading by example by involving themselves in late night parties. What do u expect from their teenage childrens ? Their favourite place is connaught Place and Chanyka cinema. Their parents are responsible for that not V - day.

Now, on the new generation knowing about their festivals. My views are same, the knowledge of festivals and traditions should be provided by their own parents. Do you think, TV and movies can teach them about Sakrant and Teez . I don't think so sir. Only parents can do that. If they are not letting them know their festivals who is to blame for ?

Valentine Day

If somebody believe that celebrating V- day is no problrm that doesn't mean that they are thinking of going to connaught place of Chanyka cinema. It can be just wishing each others. If two people are in love and they confess that on valentine day for any reason what is wrong with that ?


Regards

[dahiyarules]

Summary of my Valentines Day!

Came back from work at 8 in the morning.

Yelled a little on Jatland.com and checked emails. Went to bed at 9

Got up at 1.

Had Classes from 2 to 6 30 PM.

Was too tired for Gym. Still strolled around checking out the ladies. ;) All of em were single for sure, since the Gym was empty for a tuesday, and all those who were hooked up had dates.

Had a lengthy shower and a quick dinner.

Back to work at 11.

Nothing diffferent about it. Now if everyone who is deviating from the topic will shut up, we can talk about something else.

[jakhar77]

Truly said Rupi.

guys i would b very happy,, if i got a chance to see yr posts over teez n saankraat.... rather than x mas n valentine...:cool: .. ram ram

[jakhar77]

Dear all,
Celebrating any day or another is a personal choice and anybody should not try to impose his/her thoughts on others. If you don't like, its ok but let others celebrate it b'coz they find it worth celebrating.
As far as the love expression day or 'valentine's' day is concerned it was also celebrated in our ancient times as 'madanotsav'. you can find it somewhere in Chanakya era or may be before that. I read about 'Madanotsav' in Maurya era history and a 'play' that was a text book in school times.
so don't make it a big issue. today we are running after the west and their culture, anbody is untouched by this.
I liked the discussion but the language used by some members was not upto the mark and could have been avoided. we are here to discuss things and to ourelves not to oppose others views.

[downtoearth]

now , valentines day is over............i would like to ask valentines enthusiasts...... did u get ur valentine ? anybdys there ?

[lucky]

Summary of my Valentines Day!

Came back from work at 8 in the morning.

Yelled a little on Jatland.com and checked emails. Went to bed at 9

Got up at 1.

Had Classes from 2 to 6 30 PM.

Was too tired for Gym. Still strolled around checking out the ladies. ;) All of em were single for sure, since the Gym was empty for a tuesday, and all those who were hooked up had dates.

Had a lengthy shower and a quick dinner.

Back to work at 11.

Nothing diffferent about it. Now if everyone who is deviating from the topic will shut up, we can talk about something else.




hehheheh same here. whole day in class lab working on assinment. too cold to go out side.
but ya at 11 at night went to eat ice cream for sake of v day. we need a reson to party with friends so went out to eat ice cream. and whts wrong in celebrating V DAY. well i culture donot allow lot of things and we do that....it is an hallmark celebration to sell thier products and what i know hallpart and archise have lost lot of money now. thier sells are decreasing becoz youth r becoming smart about not to spend the money for sake on this day:D:cool:. smart kids:p

for me hiding your love for some one is worst than celebrating VDAY ok i am not going to go and tell my mom and say i celebrated but ya i would dar to say i got a card. so that she could tell me if person is good or bad for me........


trust me people do more worst than that..........;)

[deepakdahiya]

haan Reena ji yo valentine te ho leya khatam...

eb te bata do aapka valentine kon tha:p

haan ager aap ab bhi ye kahege ke koi nahi tha then its not fair..




^^DD

[slamba]

hay we are in the 21th century so its really a controvertial topic to comment ;) but i will say " it happens every where , we can't change this trend , but we can control it to keep it in a limit":)

[lucky]

haan Reena ji yo valentine te ho leya khatam...

eb te bata do aapka valentine kon tha:p

haan ager aap ab bhi ye kahege ke koi nahi tha then its not fair..




^^DD
:D dahiya ji mainai bola ma ko btao gi naki duniya ko:D wasai is time mera valentine mera computer os ka software maya hai. aaj kaal tu mai oskai pass hi rhti hoa. approx 16 hrs computer kai samani. mujhai nahi lagta phir koi larka mujhai jhal sukta hai ya mai osai jhalo kyo ki itna time koni merai pass.:cool::Dki choro kai barai mai socho:p:D;)