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gsvijay1
February 13th, 2006, 12:57 PM
Good example of discrimination at the highest level, how our judges think about their women counterparts /lawyers.

I can't blame the poor villagers for not coming out in open to complain about rape cases:mad: .


'It was a crime that I was born a woman'

February 13, 2006

While on the one hand, the judges sympathise about violence against women, on the other hand women lawyers are disrespected in the very temple of justice.

Navratna Chaudhary, while appearing in the court of Justice S N Dhingra on January 7, 2006, was told by the judge that he knew how women lawyers make it, implying thereby that they use immoral means.

The lawyer who is fairly senior at the bar was shocked by his words. She requested the judge not to use words which would outrage her modesty. Promptly came the reply, "You have no modesty to outrage."

There are several witnesses to the incident, including male lawyers with more than 40 years experience at the bar.

Apparently, Justice Dhingra was called by the chief justice of the Delhi high court for an explanation.

It appears that though he has admitted that some unpleasant exchange of words did take place, he denied using specific words attributed to him by Chaudhary.

What could have led a well-respected judge to say things like this?

I can only think of the fact that he was outraged by the ongoing strike by the lawyers in Tis Hazari who are protesting against the bifurcation of the court.

Whilst I don't agree with the lawyers' strike, the judge must know where to draw the line.

It is one thing to be angry against striking lawyers and deal with them professionally; it is another thing to disrespect women at their place of work.

In an amazing show of solidarity, women lawyers have approached the chief justice of New Delhi high court with three demands.

1. That a departmental inquiry should be conducted against the judge for misconduct in accordance with the Vishakha guidelines. (A judgment related to sexual harassment at the workplace.)

2. That the chief justice of the New Delhi high court should grant permission to prosecute Justice Dhingra.

3. And, that contempt of court action should be taken against the judge because when Chaudhary sited a judgment of the high court, the judge refused to look at it because he claimed he didn't recognise such judgments. They also demand that pending the inquiry, Justice Dhingra should go on leave.

While it was the Supreme Court that laid down the guidelines to prevent sexual harassment at the workplace, the courts themselves have always taken the view that this judgment doesn't apply to them.

There have been cases where women judges have been harassed by male judges.

In Rajasthan, a Dalit lady judge has been demanding justice at hands of the judiciary for being sexually harassed by a male judge.

The battle promises to take on an all-India character. Women lawyers are now demanding that a committee for sexual harassment should be set up in all courts across the country.

At the heart of the controversy is the issue of great importance to women -- the right to be treated with dignity at the workplace.

The incident illustrates that woman lawyers are not taken seriously.

On the contrary, they are viewed as women who have no business to be in the courtroom and are not considered as professionals.

It is indeed a sign of backwardness in thinking among the legal establishment.

With what confidence can a woman litigant expect justice from the court?

While on the one hand, we continue to pass legislation to 'protect' women on the other hand, at the ground level, women are discriminated against for being women.

As Chaudhary told me, "It was a crime that I was born a woman and a further crime that I decided to become a lawyer."

Today, she is deeply disturbed woman. The only ray of hope is that women lawyers from Tis Hazari have rallied around her and are determined to carry this issue to a logical conclusion. The Delhi Bar Association and the witnesses have stood by her.

On Monday, between 12 and 2 pm, women lawyers will demonstrate outside the New Delhi high court.

I have decided to join the dharna because the issue raised goes beyond Navratna Chaudhary.

They pertain to the accountability of the Judiciary in this country.

Indira Jaising is a New Delhi-based constitutional expert.

raj2rif
February 17th, 2006, 06:14 PM
Dear Mr. Gehlawat,
It is outrageous to learn that a Judge can make such a statement in the court. I think he should be relieved of all his duties and further debarred from taking part in the Judicial System either as an attorney or a Judge.
It simply shows that he might have done some thing of that nature in his own service span or had seen some one doing it. If he did it himself, he did not deserve to be donning the mentle of the Judge, and if he saw some one doing it and did not report the matter, he is not suitable to hold the position as well.
I am surprised, if he is still there. What faith people will have in his judging abilities? All you know he himself might have used such means to get to that position, who knows?

sukhda
February 17th, 2006, 07:36 PM
Well, after going thru the news item i have mixed feelings bout the issue.....I still remember when i decided to pursue law my dad from the very first year used to make up my mind for not gettin into practice thing......that time i never realised why he kept on stressing upon that....
He was really happy when i decided to go for masters instead of practising. As now i am busy with LL.M and at times talk to some of my female frds who opted for litigation, i can see the real picture.......they have really nothing substantial and good to tell everytime i ask them bout their experience....WHY IS IT SO ????
Don know when wud things get better........if also ever improve or not???
Atleast such remarks are not expected out of those sitting on the chairs of JUSTICE DELIVERY SYSTEM. Its really shocking and outrageous.
KYA HOGA HINDUSTAN KA BHAI????:confused:

ratheetheraist
February 19th, 2006, 10:50 PM
its ridiculous knowing this all happened to tht lady lawyer jus because she is a woman nd that bl***y dhingra is a judge over there????????

i as a student of law feel ashamed of the incident in the profession which m going to join soon :( bt this is a reality. wt to say .......

bt i think the thinking is neede to b changed among every one who thinks they r a better human being being a man .....nd jus demoralise women when they start doing smting gd nd new nd different........

jus want to say to ms chaudhary tht dont move frm her stand till tht dhingra gets his due from the law ..........

after all we believe in law

lucky
February 22nd, 2006, 01:08 PM
suspend him and no pension and no medical. till the steps are not strong nothing can stop these incedents. it happens every where in world but i one thing i apprecite canada is female laws. i u haras them. the person can losse every previlage from govermnet and socity:mad:

i donot understand these find of males is there brought up wrong or wht. what would have they taught thier kids:eek:. to abuse females :eek:

disgusting.ppl.

dndeswal
March 28th, 2006, 12:50 AM
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Though not strictly relevant in the Indian context, the following article which appeared in 25 March issue of Internald Herald Tribune, is worth reading and has some co-relation on the subject of womens' agonies.

Women go 'missing' by the millions
Ayaan Hirsi Ali (http://www.iht.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?query=Ayaan%20Hirsi%20Ali&sort=swishrank) Tribune Media Services International
SATURDAY, MARCH 25, 2006

AMSTERDAM (http://www.iht.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?query=AMSTERDAM&sort=swishrank)

As I was preparing for this article, I asked a friend who is Jewish if it was appropriate to use the term "holocaust" to portray the worldwide violence against women. He was startled. But when I read him the figures in a 2004 policy paper published by the Geneva Center for the Democratic Control of Armed Forces, he said yes, without hesitation.

One United Nations estimate says from 113 million to 200 million women around the world are demographically "missing." Every year, from 1.5 million to 3 million women and girls lose their lives as a result of gender-based violence or neglect.

How could this possibly be true? Here are some of the factors:

In countries where the birth of a boy is considered a gift and the birth of a girl a curse from the gods, selective abortion and infanticide eliminate female babies.

Young girls die disproportionately from neglect because food and medical attention is given first to brothers, fathers, husbands and sons.

In countries where women are considered the property of men, their fathers and brothers can murder them for choosing their own sexual partners. These are called "honor" killings, though honor has nothing to do with it.

Young brides are killed if their fathers do not pay sufficient money to the men who have married them. These are called "dowry deaths," although they are not just deaths, they are murders.

The brutal international sex trade in young girls kills uncounted numbers of them.

Domestic violence is a major cause of death of women in every country.

So little value is placed on women's health that every year roughly 600,000 women die giving birth.

Six thousand girls undergo genital mutilation every day, according to the World Health Organization. Many die; others live the rest of their lives in crippling pain.

According to the WHO, one woman out of every five worldwide is likely to be a victim of rape or attempted rape in her lifetime.

What is happening to women and girls in many places across the globe is genocide. All the victims scream their suffering. It is not so much that the world doesn't hear them; it is that fellow human beings choose not to pay attention.

It is much more comfortable for us to ignore these issues. And by "us," I also mean women. Too often, we are the first to look away. We may even participate, by favoring our sons and neglecting the care of our daughters. All these figures are estimates; registering precise numbers for violence against women is not a priority in most countries.

Going forward, there are three challenges:

Women are not organized or united. Those of us in rich countries, who have attained equality under the law, need to mobilize to assist our fellows. Only our outrage and our political pressure can lead to change.

The Islamists are engaged in reviving and spreading a brutal and retrograde body of laws. Wherever the Islamists implement Shariah, or Islamic law, women are hounded from the public arena, denied education and forced into a life of domestic slavery.

Cultural and moral relativists sap our sense of moral outrage by claiming that human rights are a Western invention. Men who abuse women rarely fail to use the vocabulary the relativists have provided them. They claim the right to adhere to an alternative set of values - an "Asian," "African" or "Islamic" approach to human rights.

This mind-set needs to be broken. A culture that carves the genitals of young girls, hobbles their minds and justifies their physical oppression is not equal to a culture that believes women have the same rights as men.

Three initial steps could be taken by world leaders to begin eradicating the mass murder of women:

A tribunal such as the court of justice in The Hague should look for the 113 million to 200 million women and girls who are missing.

A serious international effort must urgently be made to precisely register violence against girls and women, country by country.

We need a worldwide campaign to reform cultures that permit this kind of crime. Let's start to name them and shame them.

In the past two centuries, those in the West have gradually changed the way they treat women. As a result, the West enjoys greater peace and progress. It is my hope that the third world will embark on this effort. Just as we put an end to slavery, we must end the gendercide.

(Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Somali-born Dutch legislator, lives under 24-hour protection because of death threats against her by Islamic radicals since the murder of Theo van Gogh, with whom she made the film "Submission" about women and Islam. This Global Viewpoint article was distributed by Tribune Media Services.)