Are we really more Muslim than Hindu?

[sansanwalamit]

During many conversations with people of different religions and Hindus I have got this question popping in my mind that whether we are still Hindus or have succumbed to become quasi Mulims socially and culturally.
I feel this way due to the contrast between Hindu philosphy and our practices.
I am putting some examples here:
Firstly, our women cover their heads, and nowhere in pre-Islamic India Indian women ever covered their heads. In South India women still do not do so. Being always in the frontiers of invasion and living under Islamic rule we did adopt it but then why are we so reluctant in getting rid of this practice when it means nothing in our religion.
Secondly, why have Hindus taken up eating non-vegetarian food so easily when our non-violent religion strongly opposes it. On the same hand we feel proud in denouncing alcohol and intoxicants (forbidden in Islam and not so in Hinduism)
Moreover, why is Arya Samaj so strongly opposed to worshipping Gods by calling it "idolism" which is an integral part of Hinduism. Arya Samaj also makes Hinduism sound very monoethestic like Judaism and Islam.
Considering its very late here I cannot write more, but if you can think of any practice like this please add on, and if you have any explanation to this then please do write it.

Thanks,

Amit

[panwar_arya]

Dear Friend,
i also donot understand why we call ourselves Hindu because in history one can not find this word before the attack of muslims.before this we were called ARYA and the name of this country was ARYAVARTA.Few More Things: These so called hindu donot wear Yajjopawit which is essential for every native of this country nor any person put Shikha on his head. In logo ne Yagya karna chhod diya joki ved ke annusaar Sarvsrasth karma hai.there are other things also which people donot follow.

[sampuran]

Amit bhai,

These practices are not imitations of the muslims, though qualitatively they look similar.

Purdah had to start because muslims would abduct Hindu girls like they do today in Pakistan and Bangladesh. Under purdah meant that the woman was married, and was not normally abducted.

Non veg is a recent fad. When religion has lost its meaning and charm. Its become fashionable to declare yourself secular ! As if by having religious affiliations will mean you are biased against other religions, like the Christians where this term was invented.



... Why Arya Samaaj is idol worship ? ,Because the basis is original Vedic society and religious practics which had no idols.
Swami Dayanand would have felt extremely disturbed that when Ghauri went to loot the Somnath temple, he did not encounter any army opposition even when there was a fully prepared army available.. he Hindu soldiers were told that they need not fight, as the powerful diety would protect them (and itself) . What superstition !!

[vijay]

During many conversations with people of different religions and Hindus I have got this question popping in my mind that whether we are still Hindus or have succumbed to become quasi Mulims socially and culturally.
I feel this way due to the contrast between Hindu philosphy and our practices.
I am putting some examples here:
Firstly, our women cover their heads, and nowhere in pre-Islamic India Indian women ever covered their heads. In South India women still do not do so. Being always in the frontiers of invasion and living under Islamic rule we did adopt it but then why are we so reluctant in getting rid of this practice when it means nothing in our religion.
Secondly, why have Hindus taken up eating non-vegetarian food so easily when our non-violent religion strongly opposes it. On the same hand we feel proud in denouncing alcohol and intoxicants (forbidden in Islam and not so in Hinduism)
Moreover, why is Arya Samaj so strongly opposed to worshipping Gods by calling it "idolism" which is an integral part of Hinduism. Arya Samaj also makes Hinduism sound very monoethestic like Judaism and Islam.
Considering its very late here I cannot write more, but if you can think of any practice like this please add on, and if you have any explanation to this then please do write it.

Thanks,

Amit




Amit Bhai,

First of all we were hindu, we are and will be always.

Let me answer what you put up here

Firsat point : Covering heads

Married woman used to covered their heads not face from ancient times. But covering face seems be after the muslim invasion in India. if you have read history you know wht they did here with Hindu females. You know every hindu was not much powerful to respond so meybe they tried to play safe by covering their females in purdah. Keep in mind that some families believe in purdah and others don't. This point don't describe us that we are not Hindu.

Second point : Non voilence :

Who said that we belience in only non voilence. Ok we prefer it as anybody perefer non voilence. Did you read ramayana and Mahabharta where was non voilence. Evel Lord rama went to haunt sunahara mirg ( Deer : Hiran ) for Seeta. Pandavas used to haunt during their exile ( deshnikala ). If Hindu's were believers of non voilence that why did Mahabharata battle took place. But we prefer it and but if situation got worse we had to fight always.

Third point : Arya Samaj

What Maharishi Dayanad opposed to worshipping God was not against the Hinduism but it was against the fake persons who used religion in for their personal benefits. It was against fake persons who tried to deceive people by religion and God's curse ( Pakhandi log). Maharishi Dayanad believed that God is one and that is Hindu Mythology. What's wrong with that ?
And my friend Hinduism is beyond the Arya samaj and all other things.

Hinduism is a thousand years old culture and philosophy some people can't change it.

We are Hindu and will be always !

[ravichaud]

Take a look at these vedic passages. Is this not the root of Hinduism? But they do seem to conflict with the position of Non-violence and protection of animals. There is practice of archery using animals as moving targets.

http://www.atarn.org/india/dhanurveda_eng.htm

[sansanwalamit]

Take a look at these vedic passages. Is this not the root of Hinduism? But they do seem to conflict with the position of Non-violence and protection of animals. There is practice of archery using animals as moving targets.

http://www.atarn.org/india/dhanurveda_eng.htm

Am I expected to put behind my faith in importance of non-violence and vegetarianism by some random website. I have never read any Veda or Hindu doctrine to understand the importance of non-violence and vegetarianism in my religion. What I know and believe is from observation, I have never seen anyone from my grandfather' s generation eating non-veg and very few men and almost no women from my parents generation doing so. All of the Hindu sects be it ISKCON or BAPS strongly support it. So I do not think arguing over it is even reasonable.

[nirajsihag]

First thing I want to say that Hinduism came before Islama and most of the Muslim we have in India,Pakistan,Afganistan and other Asian countries are Hindus and are forcefully converted to Islam.

The thing that makes us more Hindu then any other Hindu caste is the number of non veg food eating folks in our caste are very much fewer then any other Hindu caste in our village people don't even eat a egg.

Even if you take a look at name of lord Hanuman all of your confusion will be removed "Hanu-Man" where Man is sirname in jats.

Dont ever compare jats with muslims because jats are always very generous and commpasionate.

[nirajsihag]

I have never read any Veda or Hindu doctrine to understand the importance of non-violence and vegetarianism in my religion. What I know and believe is from observation,


Dear Amit

you need to again take look at "Bhagawat Gita" and vedas.