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sampuran
May 30th, 2006, 07:45 PM
As proud, patriotic citizens of India, are you aware of the plans of the enemies of India? Read an excerpt of the text given below from their website. Source: Mughalstan Website (http://www.dalitstan.org/mughalstan/azad/zindabad.html)

We Muslims are not going to go to Pakistan as the Brahmins command. Instead we will break India once more and re-unite with our brethren in Pakistan and Bangladesh to form the greatest nation of the world - Mughalstan, "The Land of Mughal-Muslims". Mughalstan is "Greater Pakistan", or "Pakistan No. 2". In other words, Mughalstan is "India's Bosnia" - a nation within a nation. Mughalstan will Inshallah consist of the following coterminous territories:
1.PAKISTAN comprising Punjab, Afghanistan, Kashmir and Sindh.
2.BANGISTAN or Greater Bangladesh, comprising modern Bangladesh, southern Assam and the surrounding Muslim-dominated regions.
3. KHALISTAN, the Sikh Nation of Sufi Muslims. The Sikhs or Nanakshahis are followers of the Muslim Sufi saint Nanak Shah; hence Khalistan is a natural part of Mughalstan.
4. ROHILSTAN, northern Uttar Pradesh or `Rohilkhand', with a 60 % Muslim population.
5. MALWASTAN or Malwa in Madhya Pradesh.
6. BIHARISTAN comprising the Muslim-dominated regions formerly known as `Magadha' in southern Bihar, and of course.
7. KASHMIR, the Crown of Mughalstan.

gandasa
May 30th, 2006, 07:50 PM
Is this a joke or something............ good one though.....

sampuran
May 30th, 2006, 07:56 PM
Is this a joke or something............ good one though.....

When Rome was burning, Nero was doing aish.

rkumar
May 30th, 2006, 08:08 PM
Why can't Hindus have counter dream of unified India with its boundaries streaching beyond Afghanistan on one side and Indo-China on the other side ? Let these Mughalistanis also work and help India achieve this great dream...

RK^2

sampuran
May 30th, 2006, 08:18 PM
Why can't Hindus have counter dream of unified India with its boundaries streaching beyond Afghanistan on one side and Indo-China on the other side ? Let these Mughalistanis also work and help India achieve this great dream...

RK^2

Bhai Saheb Ram Ram
Dreams many people have. Problem is of realising them through hard work !
Who do you think can unify the Greater Hindustan ?

devdahiya
May 30th, 2006, 10:21 PM
Why can't Hindus have counter dream of unified India with its boundaries streaching beyond Afghanistan on one side and Indo-China on the other side ? Let these Mughalistanis also work and help India achieve this great dream...

RK^2



Rajendra ji pehlyan jitna sei ussnei tei ikathhha rakh lyo........? Isske-e tukkdde karran nei horhe mharre badde-2 sher.Ofcourse no harm in dreaming big!

rkumar
May 30th, 2006, 10:22 PM
Bhai Saheb Ram Ram
Dreams many people have. Problem is of realising them through hard work !
Who do you think can unify the Greater Hindustan ?

I think we are already doing it to a very large extent. Increasing presence of Indians in USA and Europe is a step in the same direction. Future emires won't look like what they were in past. I see great future for India and Indians. Muslims have to work much harder to reach anywhere near..

RK^2

dahiyarules
May 30th, 2006, 10:57 PM
Why can't Hindus have counter dream of unified India with its boundaries streaching beyond Afghanistan on one side and Indo-China on the other side ? Let these Mughalistanis also work and help India achieve this great dream...

RK^2

I hope all warmongerers will go and fight on their own or send their own kids kids to go and die. Do not put the burden of your ambitions on our all-voluntary military. Our military is supposed to protect our borders and not expand them.


The currest day situation speaks for me. We are having a tough time keeping together whatever little we got. There is some kind of secession movement going on in every corner of the country. And if you still want to focus on expanding our borders rather than focus on domestic problems for now, then you lack both the hindsight an the foresight.

I really do not not know who to hold at a higher moral ground: the "Jehadi Mughalastanis" or the "Fanatic Hindus" themselves. Both want to cause harm to each other. And in the process there are a lot of neutral people on both sides who bear the burden of your ambitions.

rathee369
May 31st, 2006, 12:21 AM
Sampuran bhai ,
good topic !!! thanks !

well what I understand from this map is that India is vulnerable , let's face it .Indeed there is sectarian movement going on in every part of the country & to a certain extent so is true with our internet village of jatland.com. not thtat we are trying to put anyone down on this website but we understand that we have an identity seperate than others and if we show signs of weakness/vulnerability ( kaan ka kachapan) then anyone can sabotage our country.

Kalkhande saheb , as usual your comments are welcome because I never heard you talking weak & at the same time never have really seen hatred in your words.Like you said that we Indians are marking our presence all over the world which should open up brother Sumit's mind towards the fact that one doesn't need to always go to war to win others .If we are prosperous then everyone would like to stick together instead of demanding their own "STAN" and that's why none of the state in USA is asking to become a seperate country , ofcourse beside MUSLIMS.

WARMONGERS is what we JATS are , that is true and proud of being so.
:p

narenderkharb
May 31st, 2006, 01:23 AM
Why can't Hindus have counter dream of unified India with its boundaries streaching beyond Afghanistan on one side and Indo-China on the other side ? Let these Mughalistanis also work and help India achieve this great dream...

RK^2

That's really true.

Let them do what we want.

This divison of India has been termed as geographical and cultural catastrophy by various philosphers born out of whims, fancies and political greed of political leaders.

We always see people feeling sad about partition.

So don't panic and let it be an opprtunity.


PS ..Sampuran Bhai ,If you don't take it as an offence pls come out of this muslim phobia seen in 80% of your posts as this hype of muslim and hindu domination is ticking this nation pakistan which is fearing breakup on growing ethnocentrism.

sampuran
May 31st, 2006, 08:39 PM
That's really true.

Let them do what we want.

This divison of India has been termed as geographical and cultural catastrophy by various philosphers born out of whims, fancies and political greed of political leaders.

We always see people feeling sad about partition.

So don't panic and let it be an opprtunity.


PS ..Sampuran Bhai ,If you don't take it as an offence pls come out of this muslim phobia seen in 80% of your posts as this hype of muslim and hindu domination is ticking this nation pakistan which is fearing breakup on growing ethnocentrism.

Kharab bhai. Dhanyavaad. Of course, you have a right to say what you feel. It certainly shows your personal concern.

I write on many many varied issues. Though integration of India and Insoan society is prime concern. There are many fragmenting currents in our national life, islamic expansionism is just one. When people start discussing about Naxalism, insurgency, underworld, linguistic issues, Chinese threat, corrupotion etc, I shall certainly write there as well.

devdahiya
May 31st, 2006, 09:02 PM
I will tend to agree more with Sumit irrespective of line other people take.Ambitions of any kind must be matched by strong fundamentals on ground.Mungerri Lal ke sapne lena aassan hotta hei parr unko hakkikkat ka jamma pehnana alag baat hotti hei. Jiss desh mei jantta ko bantta jatta hoi,jiss desh mei aadhhi se jyadda janta beemaar aur bhukhi ho,uss desh ko pehle appne ghar ko order mei lanne ki baatein karni chahiyein na ki iss duniya parr kabbjja karne ki. With due regards to the comments made by worthy members,i would like to say that we are still a very immature nation in grip of casts and creed coupled with the problems unlimited. We ought to put our head down and try treat the defficiencies which are inherent in the system and then only think of expansion of any kind. It is sad that we do not pay attentiom to the realities on ground but dream of trying to be one up...this is not a good sign at all.


Sampuran bhai.it is a good topic provided you can keep it on right track.Thanks!

rkumar
May 31st, 2006, 09:45 PM
I will tend to agree more with Sumit irrespective of line other people take.Ambitions of any kind must be matched by strong fundamentals on ground.Mungerri Lal ke sapne lena aassan hotta hei parr unko hakkikkat ka jamma pehnana alag baat hotti hei. Jiss desh mei jantta ko bantta jatta hoi,jiss desh mei aadhhi se jyadda janta beemaar aur bhukhi ho,uss desh ko pehle appne ghar ko order mei lanne ki baatein karni chahiyein na ki iss duniya parr kabbjja karne ki. With due regards to the comments made by worthy members,i would like to say that we are still a very immature nation in grip of casts and creed coupled with the problems unlimited. We ought to put our head down and try treat the defficiencies which are inherent in the system and then only think of expansion of any kind. It is sad that we do not pay attentiom to the realities on ground but dream of trying to be one up...this is not a good sign at all.


Sampuran bhai.it is a good topic provided you can keep it on right track.Thanks!

Dahya Sahab,

Agar microscope lagakar dekhne lagen to doodh me bhi keede dikhaayee denge. There is no nation on the face of Earth, which is free of common evils if one looks closely. bas fark itna hai ki keede different type ke hain... The very fact that India and Indian culture has survived so many assaults all through centuries shows its greatness and agility. India is a world in itself and cannot be understood by simplistic approach.

RK^2

devdahiya
May 31st, 2006, 09:56 PM
Dahya Sahab,

Agar microscope lagakar dekhne lagen to doodh me bhi keede dikhaayee denge. There is no nation on the face of Earth, which is free of common evils if one looks closely. bas fark itna hai ki keede different type ke hain... The very fact that India and Indian culture has survived so many assaults all through centuries shows its greatness and agility. India is a world in itself and cannot be understood by simplistic approach.

RK^2


Abb kya krein RK ji...hamarri tou approach hotti hi simplistic hei.....Kuun duurbeen lawei batao!Having said that i wish you and India good luck...I too will be equally proud that day...Move on please!

rathee369
June 1st, 2006, 03:23 AM
That's true Kalkhade ji , there's no nation ( even person) which does not carry GOOD & BAD we should take pride in the good things & should try to rectify the bad ones.

You live in UK & I've lived in USA for last seven years , please tell me if you haven't seen racism( equal to caste system) , poverty , crime , corruption , social injustice & malpractice !! We need to feel proud of things now and on ongoing basis , there's is a very thin line that distinguishes EGO from PRIDE and we should always try to watch that ( which in my opinion you do very well ).

Dahiya saheb thanks for wishing luck to India , we do need blessings of every indian on the planet , hur aadmi ka apna apna svabhaav hota hai aur aap shanth svabhaav ke ho hum uggra svabhav ke lekin usse humme se koi bhi kum deshbhakt nahi ho jaata, bas ye to hai andaaz apna apna ( I know you like shayri );)

sampuran
June 1st, 2006, 04:30 PM
Sampuran bhai.it is a good topic provided you can keep it on right track.Thanks!

Dev Dahiya bhai Ram Ram.
Thanks for the comments. Though I dont intend to moderate the thread. Its free for all members to give their opinion. Freedom of expression is more important. And naturally, there cant be a definite conclusion. However, if people realise the gravity of the threat, something tangible would have been achieved.