Reliance Haryana SEZ

[rsdalal]

As we know opposition(INDL, BJP and even cogress Bhajanlal etc) all are opposing it(Because they are in oposition).
Do they really have any point at all in this.
In my opinion this is the one flagship project for Hooda Govt. Good going ...
People should support Govt, if they want to get more projects like this...

[kharub]

Dalal Sahab,

On What grounds are they opossing it ???

[rsdalal]

VJ Bhai,
Looks like they are opposing because they are in opposition.

Dalal Sahab,

On What grounds are they opossing it ???

[anilsangwan]

Lage Raho !!!q

[roopak]

well 2 me this SEZ concept is a fantastic moove made by the Govt..............but as usual v r little bit late..actually the concept of establishing sez's is adopted from china..........where first SEZ was started in 1971........but still its gud step............there r certain thing which i think the state as well as the central govt. has to c through...........like the minimum limit of land acquisition for applying as developer for cetain sectors like IT, gems & jewellry etc. is just 10 hectares...........tht comes out to be 25 acres...and u all will surprises 2 knw tht in the first meeting of board of approvals 165 apprvals were given ...............where mejority of applications were for IT sector.....to my understanding all these applicants are looking at SEZ as real estate business rahter thn some serious business.............second thing is most of the applications for haryana state are only 4 land near gurgaon.whic hagain shwz the real estate mind behind it..................to me the basic purpose of SEZ is to develop the backward areas, provide employment, create gud infrastructure like CARGOS, AIRPORTS, ICD ROADS ETC...............which if c in reality can only b done by a big gun like reliance........so as far as relinace collabration with HSIDC is concern its a fantastic step taken ...otherwise i m really nt satisfied with this whole SEZ mechanism set up by the Ministry of Commerce ......................more over do u people really think small state like haryana can handle the pressure of land acquisition of 5000 acres ,,which will cover more thn 20 villlages........the pressure of there survival, employment, agitaion ............i think in coming time huda govt. has 2 face loads of pressure..............as the Bhartiye Kissan Union curtesey(tikait and ghasi ram nain) has already filed a writ in Punjab & Haryan High Court....................lets hope 4 the best!

[tanwars]

Reason for opposing the SEZ land aquisition in Haryana is right as there will be mass land acqusition by the govt. at very nominal rates from the farmers and after developing the area the rates will sky rocket and at the far end of this all the losers will be the common man/land holders of that particular area. Land acqusition will definetly create a void ..... lots of village people will be snatched off from their parental/traditional work of farming and the new guys from the villages being unemployed will definetely create a choas in the coming days in that particular area..... and definetely crime rate will increrase..... (this has been observed n seen in most of the villages in haryana where land acquisition were done few years back). The main concern is about the cultivation land scarcity in Haryana as haryana is a mass producer of wheat n barley..... as we are already facing the TOMATO HYPE these days .... i near future will be a common thing for all the vegetables n wheat prices.

[ratheetheraist]

VJ Bhai,
Looks like they are opposing because they are in opposition.

dalal saab no ,........ its not like this.. by the way its their contitutional duty to oppose the wrong doings of the govt and they r doin exactly wt they r supposed to do so.........

first thing is that INLD is not opposing the idea of SEZ in sonipat district.... or anywhere in haryana......

i have personally met the people frm sonipat as my school (M.N.S.S. RAI) is situated there only......... and when i visit my school i get to meet all elders there ...... they all are like crying...... i realy wonder tht wt u all people r for all this praise for this tep of this KAANGRESS govt.......

the main issue behind the opposition of this step is tht the diference of money the farmers got frm submitting their land for this purpose...... they can easily earn nearly 80 lacs /killaa from ny industrialist who r there like the ANSALS , TDI , OMAXE , and DLF.........

bt here RELIANCE has jus got nearly 5000 acres of land at jus the value of 18 lacs/ killa.... and they r given to them by the govt only........ frst govt acquires it then it gives it to RELIANCE at so wonderfully planned rates ......

and u all are so happy and shouting wow....... what a deal........... haaah..

who doesnt want the progress of the state and the people residing in the state......... bt is this the way... y the villagers are being deprived of their due ????

can any one of u please explain.........................:(

[rkumar]

dalal saab no ,........ its not like this.. by the way its their contitutional duty to oppose the wrong doings of the govt and they r doin exactly wt they r supposed to do so.........

first thing is that INLD is not opposing the idea of SEZ in sonipat district.... or anywhere in haryana......

i have personally met the people frm sonipat as my school (M.N.S.S. RAI) is situated there only......... and when i visit my school i get to meet all elders there ...... they all are like crying...... i realy wonder tht wt u all people r for all this praise for this tep of this KAANGRESS govt.......

the main issue behind the opposition of this step is tht the diference of money the farmers got frm submitting their land for this purpose...... they can easily earn nearly 80 lacs /killaa from ny industrialist who r there like the ANSALS , TDI , OMAXE , and DLF.........

bt here RELIANCE has jus got nearly 5000 acres of land at jus the value of 18 lacs/ killa.... and they r given to them by the govt only........ frst govt acquires it then it gives it to RELIANCE at so wonderfully planned rates ......

and u all are so happy and shouting wow....... what a deal........... haaah..

who doesnt want the progress of the state and the people residing in the state......... bt is this the way... y the villagers are being deprived of their due ????

can any one of u please explain.........................:(

DLF bought land from farmers in pennies and has been selling in crores. Why not a word against DLF and many others like them? What are the social commitments of DLF and other builders? Have they invested into power or water projects or created any employment for the people whose land they bought? I would advise members to read the entire terms and conditions of SEZ and see if these will directly affect the lives of so many people. Every family whose land has been acquired, will be provided job in SEZ. Even rural properties of these people will fetch sky high prices in few years. That itself will be windfall. Think of many other side benefits these people have in next few years. Let us not get carried out by political propaganda. Why people never speak a word against HUDA or DDA when they acquire land and sell as plots at prices which are many times higher. I raised the issue of farmers' land long back on Jatland in another thread and suggested the best possible way of dealing with the problem;

http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7421

RK^2

[skdca]

Dear Mr. Rathee,

When anybody is buying thousands of acres of land, it is quite obivious that he will not take it at the normal market rate.


No doubt the project is good but the point to remember is that there should be real inflow of capital & not that industries are coming here just for the tax benefit.

Another point to remember is that if the Govt. really wants to generate the employment oppotunities, as it is claiming, emphasis should be on attracting the manufacturing industries (that also large one) as the these industries have more potential to generate the employment oppurtunities.

[ratheetheraist]

Dear Mr. Rathee,

When anybody is buying thousands of acres of land, it is quite obivious that he will not take it at the normal market rate.


No doubt the project is good but the point to remember is that there should be real inflow of capital & not that industries are coming here just for the tax benefit.

Another point to remember is that if the Govt. really wants to generate the employment oppotunities, as it is claiming, emphasis should be on attracting the manufacturing industries (that also large one) as the these industries have more potential to generate the employment oppurtunities.

bhai sandeep ji.....

ye aalloo pyaaj nahi hai jo ek killo to 10 rs ke aur 5 killo 40 ke lagaaee jaaengeyy........ i think u hav no idea about this kind of dealings thts y u r saing so......

aur han SEZ hi banana thaa to RELIANCE ko zameen dene ki kya zaroorat padd gaii...... isnt haryana govt efficient enough to do this job......????

m sure they are............ bt they invoilved RELIANCE THE BIG FISH in this and reliance ke bahaaney kaiyaan kee ULLU SEEDHEY HOWENGEYY ..... ibbey dekhtee jaaoo.........

and i know tht people here on jatland also feel nd know all the tricks nd games odf the highest level of politics bt they dont hve tht muich to say jus now........... kuch n kuch rokk raha hai unkoo kuch kehney sai...... par dekhtey hain kab takk chup rehtey hain..............

employment oppurtunities nd infrastructure development kya SIRF RELIANCE le kar aa sakta tha........ agar govt khud ye kaam karti without nyone`s involvement kle to it wud have brought much more than it............. AUE RELIANCE KI TO MOJJ KAR DIII SAI SARKAAR NEY ITNEEY KILLE FREE MAIN CHADHA DIYEE........ RELIANCE KA BHI TO KIMME IBB FARZ BANTA HOGAA SARKAR KI MOJJ KARTWAANN KAAA....???????? SARKAAR KA NAHI TO ATLEAST JINHONEY RELIANCE KI MOJJ KARAII SAII UNKA TO ATLEAST........ tum hum to baad main dekheey jaawangey baawley bhaii.....

[ratheetheraist]

DLF bought land from farmers in pennies and has been selling in crores. Why not a word against DLF and many others like them? What are the social commitments of DLF and other builders? Have they invested into power or water projects or created any employment for the people whose land they bought? I would advise members to read the entire terms and conditions of SEZ and see if these will directly affect the lives of so many people. Every family whose land has been acquired, will be provided job in SEZ. Even rural properties of these people will fetch sky high prices in few years. That itself will be windfall. Think of many other side benefits these people have in next few years. Let us not get carried out by political propaganda. Why people never speak a word against HUDA or DDA when they acquire land and sell as plots at prices which are many times higher. I raised the issue of farmers' land long back on Jatland in another thread and suggested the best possible way of dealing with the problem;

http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7421

RK^2

respected rk uncle ji when i was writing this na tht time i really knew ke aap hi sabsey pehley reply karogey......... hehe....... hmm........

uncle ji DLF ney to zameen farmers pey lee aur unkii sehmati tey lee.... aap unn par kyun modd re ho baat ki GAADII ney....... kati sahi political reply kar diyaa ap ney meri baat kaa....... SARKAAR ke involvement ki baat keh raha tha main to... aap le gey DLF kenii........

iska ek hi matlab hai uncle ji ke ye involvement bahut hadd tak sacha hai aur aapke paas koi solid reply nahi tha iss baat ka..... thts y u tried to change the direction a bit........

rahi baat power project ki aur dusari baaton kii........ wo kisi private company ka kaam nahi hai..... their jus aim is to make profits......... and they r not tht much biggies like ambaanies tht they invest thousands of crores in gujrat jus to explore the reservers of natural gas.......... aur waise bhi agar these big giants gona start smthing like this then they not gona do it for nyone like public at first instance....... this is jus like a joke

aur jab ye sab hamare saamney dikhaai de raha hai ke RELIANCE is getting benefitted nd in return they r surely gona do wt they r suppose to do........ tht is gona provide benefits to those who provided them nearly thousand of crore benefit......... IBB RELIANCE PAR JO APNA FARZ NIBHAAWEGA WO KISSE PRESS RELEASE KE THROUGH NAHI BATAYA JAAEGA AAP KOO....... wo to bus chupke chupke hoga..........

chalo dekhte jaaoo.......... abhi to kai karwath lega u uunt....

[rkumar]

respected rk uncle ji when i was writing this na tht time i really knew ke aap hi sabsey pehley reply karogey......... hehe....... hmm........

uncle ji DLF ney to zameen farmers pey lee aur unkii sehmati tey lee.... aap unn par kyun modd re ho baat ki GAADII ney....... kati sahi political reply kar diyaa ap ney meri baat kaa....... SARKAAR ke involvement ki baat keh raha tha main to... aap le gey DLF kenii........

iska ek hi matlab hai uncle ji ke ye involvement bahut hadd tak sacha hai aur aapke paas koi solid reply nahi tha iss baat ka..... thts y u tried to change the direction a bit........

rahi baat power project ki aur dusari baaton kii........ wo kisi private company ka kaam nahi hai..... their jus aim is to make profits......... and they r not tht much biggies like ambaanies tht they invest thousands of crores in gujrat jus to explore the reservers of natural gas.......... aur waise bhi agar these big giants gona start smthing like this then they not gona do it for nyone like public at first instance....... this is jus like a joke

aur jab ye sab hamare saamney dikhaai de raha hai ke RELIANCE is getting benefitted nd in return they r surely gona do wt they r suppose to do........ tht is gona provide benefits to those who provided them nearly thousand of crore benefit......... IBB RELIANCE PAR JO APNA FARZ NIBHAAWEGA WO KISSE PRESS RELEASE KE THROUGH NAHI BATAYA JAAEGA AAP KOO....... wo to bus chupke chupke hoga..........

chalo dekhte jaaoo.......... abhi to kai karwath lega u uunt....

Bhai Rathi,

I would advise that you read the terms and conditions of this deal and then you will know that the truth is not what you are hearing from opposition political parties. Let me clarify few important points;

1 - no land has been acquired yet by the current govt for this project and at least 75% acquisition will have to be made by RIL at market rates.

2 - land acquisition rates in the last govt were 1.5-2 lakh per acre, which was raised to 18-20 lakh per acre by the current govt resulting in overall land price jumps in state. Now the question is who was pocketing this wide gap previously? -- when the previous govt was issuing acquisition notices this was causing the farmers to sell land at mid-way prices to the land mafia.

3 - As I had already mentioned, one from each family will get a job and other benefits. HSIDC(Haryana govt. owned) will get a 10% equity in this venture without investing hard cash and this in turn is expected to generate revenues worth 10,000 Cr annually for the state in 5 yr time (the current total revenues of the state govt. are 20,000 Cr); generating 4 lakh jobs for youth in the same timeframe.

Moreover Haryana should feel great pride that India's largest SEZ, is going to set up in Haryana rather than in other competing states like Gujarat, Maharashtra and Rajasthan.

RK^2

[rkumar]

bhai sandeep ji.....

ye aalloo pyaaj nahi hai jo ek killo to 10 rs ke aur 5 killo 40 ke lagaaee jaaengeyy........ i think u hav no idea about this kind of dealings thts y u r saing so......

aur han SEZ hi banana thaa to RELIANCE ko zameen dene ki kya zaroorat padd gaii...... isnt haryana govt efficient enough to do this job......????

m sure they are............ bt they invoilved RELIANCE THE BIG FISH in this and reliance ke bahaaney kaiyaan kee ULLU SEEDHEY HOWENGEYY ..... ibbey dekhtee jaaoo.........

and i know tht people here on jatland also feel nd know all the tricks nd games odf the highest level of politics bt they dont hve tht muich to say jus now........... kuch n kuch rokk raha hai unkoo kuch kehney sai...... par dekhtey hain kab takk chup rehtey hain..............

employment oppurtunities nd infrastructure development kya SIRF RELIANCE le kar aa sakta tha........ agar govt khud ye kaam karti without nyone`s involvement kle to it wud have brought much more than it............. AUE RELIANCE KI TO MOJJ KAR DIII SAI SARKAAR NEY ITNEEY KILLE FREE MAIN CHADHA DIYEE........ RELIANCE KA BHI TO KIMME IBB FARZ BANTA HOGAA SARKAR KI MOJJ KARTWAANN KAAA....???????? SARKAAR KA NAHI TO ATLEAST JINHONEY RELIANCE KI MOJJ KARAII SAII UNKA TO ATLEAST........ tum hum to baad main dekheey jaawangey baawley bhaii.....

Rathi Bhai,

Government has been doing so many things for so many years in India and we know how they have messed up. Today we have one of the worst infrastructure in the world. Governments have failed in every country and not only in India. Who works in government by the way?

RK^2

[rameshlakra]

Dear Rajendra ji,

U have brought out very valied points and prima facie it seems to be a very good project not only for the people whose land is acquired, but also for adjoining areas as prices of their land too will shoot up. Jhajjar, Badli and Bahadurgarh are going to be secondary beneficiary in this.

As long as masses are getting benefitted out of a proposition it matters less as to what goes on behind close doors and under the table( If at all it is true, which , personally i do not believe it to be true).

regards

[roopak]

bhai sandeep ji.....

ye aalloo pyaaj nahi hai jo ek killo to 10 rs ke aur 5 killo 40 ke lagaaee jaaengeyy........ i think u hav no idea about this kind of dealings thts y u r saing so......

aur han SEZ hi banana thaa to RELIANCE ko zameen dene ki kya zaroorat padd gaii...... isnt haryana govt efficient enough to do this job......????

m sure they are............ bt they invoilved RELIANCE THE BIG FISH in this and reliance ke bahaaney kaiyaan kee ULLU SEEDHEY HOWENGEYY ..... ibbey dekhtee jaaoo.........

and i know tht people here on jatland also feel nd know all the tricks nd games odf the highest level of politics bt they dont hve tht muich to say jus now........... kuch n kuch rokk raha hai unkoo kuch kehney sai...... par dekhtey hain kab takk chup rehtey hain..............

employment oppurtunities nd infrastructure development kya SIRF RELIANCE le kar aa sakta tha........ agar govt khud ye kaam karti without nyone`s involvement kle to it wud have brought much more than it............. AUE RELIANCE KI TO MOJJ KAR DIII SAI SARKAAR NEY ITNEEY KILLE FREE MAIN CHADHA DIYEE........ RELIANCE KA BHI TO KIMME IBB FARZ BANTA HOGAA SARKAR KI MOJJ KARTWAANN KAAA....???????? SARKAAR KA NAHI TO ATLEAST JINHONEY RELIANCE KI MOJJ KARAII SAII UNKA TO ATLEAST........ tum hum to baad main dekheey jaawangey baawley bhaii.....

as u scared my dear friend........yo koi alloo .pyaaz konya...as u knw .sez of such a large intensity requries large infrastructure.....and so far the govt. has totally failed 2 provide that..............just c the present condition of delhi international airport....................u knw lohore airport is much much better thn.........and this privatization of airports is the result of same..........do u think state govt.......or even the center 4 tht matter is capable of building world class cargo handling stations or airports there in haryana.............well sir i dontthinmk so.......so it it is always a wiser move to transfer this burden and responsiblity to some pvt sector giant.....and reliance is one option...............just give me one simple example where the govt..has invested such a quantum and passed the hurdle as success...so b4 criticising this step...first go through the concept of SEZand thn express ur view........we all will appreciate that.........

[ratheetheraist]

Bhai Rathi,

I would advise that you read the terms and conditions of this deal and then you will know that the truth is not what you are hearing from opposition political parties. Let me clarify few important points;

1 - no land has been acquired yet by the current govt for this project and at least 75% acquisition will have to be made by RIL at market rates.

2 - land acquisition rates in the last govt were 1.5-2 lakh per acre, which was raised to 18-20 lakh per acre by the current govt resulting in overall land price jumps in state. Now the question is who was pocketing this wide gap previously? -- when the previous govt was issuing acquisition notices this was causing the farmers to sell land at mid-way prices to the land mafia.

3 - As I had already mentioned, one from each family will get a job and other benefits. HSIDC(Haryana govt. owned) will get a 10% equity in this venture without investing hard cash and this in turn is expected to generate revenues worth 10,000 Cr annually for the state in 5 yr time (the current total revenues of the state govt. are 20,000 Cr); generating 4 lakh jobs for youth in the same timeframe.

Moreover Haryana should feel great pride that India's largest SEZ, is going to set up in Haryana rather than in other competing states like Gujarat, Maharashtra and Rajasthan.

RK^2

rk uncle ji main ye sab baaton ko jaanta hun jo aapne likhi hain y ahann........... main ye to keh hi nahi raha ke its not beneficial for our state or so....... and our people.........

baat buss itni simple si hai kee agar RELIANCE khudd aa kar haryana main ye deal karta na..... to i m sure it wud have costed it nearly 100 times more than the price they will pay now...... NOW U SEE THT THOSE 100 times money is not even hundred crores bt thousand crores...... and haryana govt`s exchequer wud have flooded with tht money........... and the same SEZ TOO WUD HAVE SET UP TOO............

buss iss baat ka jawaab de doo.......... agar RELIANCE khud ye deal karta without govt`s interferecnce thn thn kya the results wud b some different kyaa........??? kya tab progress main kami aati kya koii......... dont know simple sa logic kyun nahi samajh rahe hain log...... nd i know samajh re ho tum sab bhii yar buss ibb mere jitney baawlee konii jo boll ra sun main nu.....

tum sabb maaro rooke KAANGRESS KEY..........

par jo galat hai wo galat hai.......... aaj nahi too thode din main bollogey......

[ratheetheraist]

as u scared my dear friend........yo koi alloo .pyaaz konya...as u knw .sez of such a large intensity requries large infrastructure.....and so far the govt. has totally failed 2 provide that..............just c the present condition of delhi international airport....................u knw lohore airport is much much better thn.........and this privatization of airports is the result of same..........do u think state govt.......or even the center 4 tht matter is capable of building world class cargo handling stations or airports there in haryana.............well sir i dontthinmk so.......so it it is always a wiser move to transfer this burden and responsiblity to some pvt sector giant.....and reliance is one option...............just give me one simple example where the govt..has invested such a quantum and passed the hurdle as success...so b4 criticising this step...first go through the concept of SEZand thn express ur view........we all will appreciate that.........

bhai roopak main iss baat sey sehmat hun ke private coompany acha kaam karegii.......... par ek baat yaa bhi bata dey neey....... akk jibb land jo aaj 80 lacs rs per killa hai wo govt ke dwara 17/18 lacs main le kar RELIANCE ko diya ja raha hai.......... uss main kuch nahi dikhaai deta kyaa......... i think u all r intellectuals out there nd u understand wt i want to say........

and yeah nobody has the answers for it......... because the wrong deeds dont have answers bt in place of answers there are arguments....... bt now i know nobody wants to ans bt argument...... and i like being in arguments all the time ......... because they really bring good things out of it..... if they r taken tht way..... bt not only for the sake of arguing....

[rkumar]

.........

baat buss itni simple si hai kee agar RELIANCE khudd aa kar haryana main ye deal karta na..... to i m sure it wud have costed it nearly 100 times more than the price they will pay now...... NOW U SEE THT THOSE 100 times money is not even hundred crores bt thousand crores...... and haryana govt`s exchequer wud have flooded with tht money........... and the same SEZ TOO WUD HAVE SET UP TOO............

buss iss baat ka jawaab de doo.......... agar RELIANCE khud ye deal karta without govt`s interferecnce thn thn kya the results wud b some different kyaa........??? kya tab progress main kami aati kya koii......... dont know simple sa logic kyun nahi samajh rahe hain log...... nd i know samajh re ho tum sab bhii yar buss ibb mere jitney baawlee konii jo boll ra sun main nu.....

tum sabb maaro rooke KAANGRESS KEY..........

par jo galat hai wo galat hai.......... aaj nahi too thode din main bollogey......

Bhai Rathi,

Teri simple si baat ka simple saa jabab yeh hai ki " Reliance or for that matter anyone will invest only when there is competitive advantage. Why should some one buy expensive land when one can get cheaper elsewhere. Reliance could go to Rajesthan, Andhra Pradesh or Timabktoo..Reliance ke kiya kaale kutte ne katta hai ki Haryana me wo 100 guna keemat dekar Jameen khareede.. Its a demand and supply issue Rathi Bhai. Such big projects can never be accomplished without government being facilitator. Haryan should thank its stars thet they are getting such a world class project. Just watch how it will chnage the face of Haryana in next few years.. ..

RK^2

[roopak]

well let me tell u one thing brother...........the kind of land this SEZproject will be acquiring is not of worth even 18 lakhs............and u talking abt 80 lakhs...................i think u knw much better thn me that all this land near bhadurgarh, jhajjar, rohtak......farmers hardly get one crop in year...and this hype of property is nothing but a special gift given al over india.............and history speaks 4 it self...the profit earned in this real esate hype is by the middle man...the ultimate consumer always faces loss...........so dont go by the rates created by these real estate people....u tell me is tht land worth 18 lakh.
and u r talkng abt haryan.....i bet u take any other state..without the help of state govt............. reliance cant even think of it.......so haryana is not an exception...........if u go by the equity sez is still better 4 us all............our bhai............manne is kaangress or inld te kimme konya lenna..........bus raa mte ya dua karoon soo ke reliance or huda govt. 10 % bhi public khatar soch ke kaam karre to state our desh ka bhalaa hojyaa ga indirectly....u wait and watch.........

so rathee saab i've tried 2 answer ur querry .i hope i've made myself clear

and believe me there is no harm in exchanging these fruitful arguments....it always pays !

bhai roopak main iss baat sey sehmat hun ke private coompany acha kaam karegii.......... par ek baat yaa bhi bata dey neey....... akk jibb land jo aaj 80 lacs rs per killa hai wo govt ke dwara 17/18 lacs main le kar RELIANCE ko diya ja raha hai.......... uss main kuch nahi dikhaai deta kyaa......... i think u all r intellectuals out there nd u understand wt i want to say........

and yeah nobody has the answers for it......... because the wrong deeds dont have answers bt in place of answers there are arguments....... bt now i know nobody wants to ans bt argument...... and i like being in arguments all the time ......... because they really bring good things out of it..... if they r taken tht way..... bt not only for the sake of arguing....

[itsnavin]

The newly approved SEZ in Haryana seems to be a well planned affair. If worthy members remember, NEPZ was started in Noida as an export processing zone in 1991 by UP govt and to be extended later on. But that project never took off. There were a few companies in NEPZ and most of them were in garment export. Initially it had some software firms but as NOIDA govt. didn't provide much facilities related to power, security and other infrastructure, they left quickly leaving in the project in dire straits. Now NEPZ has no or little existence. I think Haryana govt. has learnt some good lessons from NOIDA and a golden hand shake has been done with Reliance. Govt. has been clever enough to involve the big names at the right time.

I don't see any harm in this project except if the natives are not absorbed in this industry...there are some fears of unrest against the govt if it didn't happen. For the prices of land, it's an unending process. Kitney bhee le lo...they will always rise till the bubble bursts!

[rsdalal]

Bhai Vikas thoda sa datt ja , itna tej tej na bhaje yaar....
I will give three examples, where govt proposed big projects and opposition opposed it without much reason
1. Tau Devilal proposed Disney kind of theme park in early 1990's, Every body opposed, project did not materialized for one or another reason. Same reason was give by all oposing parties, Kissan will loose their land, what they will do. But Haryana lost a big project near Delhi, which could have attracted tourisit not only all over India but nearby countries. Even India would have earned tourist money.
2. Cahutal proposed Casino in Las Vegas style and again opposed by every one for one or another reasons. Again Haryana lost a big revenue from tourists all over India.
3. Now Hooda govt proposed this project and opposition is approx have same stand.

As per my understanding once you want to oppose a project, you find some way to confuse people and once you are able to confuse about 20-30 % people, you are almost successful in achieveing your goal.

People are raising the issue, that local people should get job. Are mere yaar, job thare ghar la dee, aur ke chahiye, eb bhee agar koye Bihari/yaa Kerla ka wa job le ja te Govt ke kare gee....

Reliance does not need Haryana as much Haryana needs Reliance.... they get get same or better deal from some other states.

[jagmohan]

Dear All,

There have been enough studies carried out on the impact SEZ has on the local environment, employment, development etc. I have also heard many expersts speak on this issue ever since this deal was signed. However, let us face some facts.

1. If Haryana Govt can keep even 50% of the promises the CM has made, then this is a wonderful step for haryana.
2. Let us not fool ourselves by thibking that Reliance is interested in people of Haryana. They are a business house interested only in business and profit making.
3. Commissisons (also called bribe by cruide people!!) are reality and such a big deal can never go through without all sorts of understanding, unwritten mostly, that take place before such a deal is signed.
4. Had Bhajan Lal been the CM then he would have sold the same deal as the biggest achievement for Haryana, second only to its creation. Dramebazz!
5. Unfortunately, the poor would remain poor even after this SEZ is alive and kicking. The labor would come from Bihar/Orrisa and settle down in Haryana. The JATS who are now counting their lacs would find out in due course of time that they were shortchanged.
6. The companies that rush to SEZ would stay as long as they are given tax benefits (may be 10-20 years) and then relocate, as has happened elsewhere.
7. As and when the Congress govt falls in Haryana and is replaced by another one, an inquiry will be ordered. But don't worry, the Ambanis will take care of that.

However, I am still in favor of this deal as it would expose our people to some world class infrastructure, training facilities (as promised) and futuristic industries. Hopefully, JATS would benefit.

Regards,

JS Malik

[rkumar]

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However, I am still in favor of this deal as it would expose our people to some world class infrastructure, training facilities (as promised) and futuristic industries. Hopefully, JATS would benefit.

Regards,

JS Malik

Well said Malik Sahab. Best would be that people of Haryana (Western UP walon ka bhi dhyaan rakhna Bhaiyon..LOL) get ready and acquire right skills to take maximum benefit of the job openings in the SEZ. Employers won't wait for Haryana people indefinitely. Government of Haryana should educate people about the type of opportunities likely to open in this SEZ and guide/ help them to acquire right skills and qualifications. In my view the maximum focus should be on this now rather than wasting time on non-productive debates.

RK^2