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desijat
July 8th, 2006, 09:48 PM
Bhaio aur :p
Manne ek bat samajh nahi aati
Waise maine ye baat jatland pe ake hi dekhi pehli baar, par phir bhi plz batao ki Haryana aur UP ke jato mein aisa kya hai ki ye split itni pareshaniya paida karta hai?
Aisa kya hai ki log ek dusre ko chidate hai aur neechi najro se dekhte hai?
Shobhit bhai ki mail dekh ke laga ki shadi mein bhi probs aati hai?
Akir ye sab kyun?
rkumar
July 8th, 2006, 09:59 PM
Bhaio aur :p
Manne ek bat samajh nahi aati
Waise maine ye baat jatland pe ake hi dekhi pehli baar, par phir bhi plz batao ki Haryana aur UP ke jato mein aisa kya hai ki ye split itni pareshaniya paida karta hai?
Aisa kya hai ki log ek dusre ko chidate hai aur neechi najro se dekhte hai?
Shobhit bhai ki mail dekh ke laga ki shadi mein bhi probs aati hai?
Akir ye sab kyun?
Its a news to me. I have never come across any such thing ever in my life. Thoree bahut majak to kisi ke bhi saath chaltee rahtee hai... Wo to Shamli aur barut ke jatton me bhi chaltee hai... Take it out of your mind as there is nothing like this..
RK^2
shobhitdeshwal
July 8th, 2006, 10:03 PM
Bhai Vikas...
This is a very deeply routed and strategically positioned divide....
If we go into history.. this was one region called Punjab.... The shapers of this country had this in brain, that if Jats are allowed to assimilate.. they can change the power holdings of the country.... The whole area was then divided into four parts... Punjab Madhya Pradesh United Province and Rajasthan. Rajasthan was a different princely state, but some parts of Punjab were given to it. The Brij area, was divided into United Province, Madhya Pradesh and Rajasthan.... Punjab was given the whole of present day Haryana and United Province had western Uttar Pradesh of present day.... Punjab was further subdivided into haryana and punjab....
And bro, due to quasi federal structure of the Indian Government, we seldom take part in the policy making of Haryana or Punjab... apni daphli apna raag vaali baat ho gayi uske baad... And if we have nothing to do with the politics of a state, we get left out.. as society is mainly governed through politics..... So things have taken such shape....
I was sitting with some people of haryana and UP.. and the topic of discussion was who shall lead the Jat race at this point in time.. Rajasthan ke log bhi the.. But people from UP and Haryana did not come to a common family... Chautala was haryana's favorite and Ajit Singh was UP's favorite... aur eik doosre ki burai bhi sunne ko tayyar nahi the....
But, here at jatland atleast, I find people with open brains... and people who keep this divide pretty low!! Lets just hope ki time will change soon.. and we will have a brotherhood soon!!
Cheers!!
Shobhit Deshwal
vijay
July 8th, 2006, 10:15 PM
Bhaio aur :p
Manne ek bat samajh nahi aati
Waise maine ye baat jatland pe ake hi dekhi pehli baar, par phir bhi plz batao ki Haryana aur UP ke jato mein aisa kya hai ki ye split itni pareshaniya paida karta hai?
Aisa kya hai ki log ek dusre ko chidate hai aur neechi najro se dekhte hai?
Shobhit bhai ki mail dekh ke laga ki shadi mein bhi probs aati hai?
Akir ye sab kyun?
Hi Vikas,
This is news for me too ! I never come across anything like this. Maybe some frustrated people are trying to create this type of illusion for their personal benefit to gain sympathy and/or to create differences between us. Keep these things out of your mind dear and beware of such people.
Cheers ! :)
ratananmol
July 8th, 2006, 11:13 PM
I think the UP jats are sharper and definitely have better educational achievements...i like them for their wits and RK uncle is my guru for that matter...
rakeshsehrawat
July 8th, 2006, 11:33 PM
I think the UP jats are sharper and definitely have better educational achievements...i like them for their wits and RK uncle is my guru for that matter...
Yo le upar aale nyu ardawe hain k apas mein banti nahi ar yo gyan ki pudiya aade aake gyan jhade hai bhai dekhe hai jise gyani hain UP aale desh ke 80% chor daku UP k hain
koi shak???????
Think well before u write
jagmohan
July 8th, 2006, 11:45 PM
Let us not be judgemental and pass unnecessary comments about any particular group of JATS from this state or that. It depends on an individual and the manner he/she has perceived things. All are good and all are bad, depends WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR.
Though I belong to Haryana, I am married in UP. My experiences tell me that we ARE ALL ONE.
desijat
July 8th, 2006, 11:55 PM
PEACE
Maine ye thread isliye shuru nahi kiya ki log aake lade, rather islie ki log samjhe ki hum sab ek hai, aur bhedbao bhula kar ekta se rahe..........
Sehrawat bhai if you have to compete please let it be in a positive manner.
\Though let me quote, my dadaji's best friend is of Sambhalka, 14 kms from Chaprauli (UP) our village and there frndship is known in the whole village.....
Today my dadaji is no more, still we always treat his friend on his place and he too treats us like a family, he performs all the main rituals, for instance on my cousins wedding unhone hi sabki milai ki.
So Bhaio, pyar se raho, diff dekho, samjho, and overcme them:)
devdahiya
July 9th, 2006, 12:14 AM
Vikas bhai please don't get carried away.........This is utter nonsense...All jats are the son and daughter of same person ultimately.What a stupidity if some moron feels that some jat from a particular belt is more or less.Kick such rascals.I have friends from all blocks and i can vauch that i find no difference.........I am pained to see these kind of thoughts even being mentioned out here.Moderators are requested to take note of such things happening out here and take appropriate steps to correct the misconception and misgivings if any.Some people love controvercies and they are there to fuel the fire at first possible opportunity....shame on such skunks.
vijay
July 9th, 2006, 12:14 AM
I think the UP jats are sharper and definitely have better educational achievements...i like them for their wits and RK uncle is my guru for that matter...
Anmol, i think you should try to understand how to handle sensitive matters to diffuse rather than to ignite them.
rkumar
July 9th, 2006, 12:15 AM
I think the UP jats are sharper and definitely have better educational achievements...i like them for their wits and RK uncle is my guru for that matter...
Nahi Bhai aisa kuch nahi.... ratti bhar bhi difference nahi hai Jatton me UP ke, Haryana ke ya fir Rajesthan ke..
RK^2
arunshamli
July 9th, 2006, 12:23 AM
Nahi Bhai aisa kuch nahi.... ratti bhar bhi difference nahi hai Jatton me UP ke, Haryana ke ya fir Rajesthan ke..
RK^2
aur toh aur Haryana wale bhee parwaa arr UP wale bhee paarwa:D :D
rkumar
July 9th, 2006, 12:23 AM
Yo le upar aale nyu ardawe hain k apas mein banti nahi ar yo gyan ki pudiya aade aake gyan jhade hai bhai dekhe hai jise gyani hain UP aale desh ke 80% chor daku UP k hain
koi shak???????
Think well before u write
hahhaha... nahi bhai aisa kuch nahi... Even I don't agree with the comments of Ratan Anmol.. Jats of UP and Haryana are 100% identical. It takes just one comment to trigger either of them to bring into a fight....LOL .. Bhai ek bhi famous daku aaj tak waise Jat nahi huaa...at least to my knowldge.. Sultana Daku se lagakar Phoolan Devi kisi ko bhi le lo...han thodee bahut gunda giri ki jahan tak baat wo to har jati ka aadmi mil jayegaa ... Bakki Jatton ko seeng bhidaane ki aadat jaroor hai...jab koi na mile to aaps me bhaadan laga karen yen..
RK^2
devdahiya
July 9th, 2006, 12:25 AM
Yo le upar aale nyu ardawe hain k apas mein banti nahi ar yo gyan ki pudiya aade aake gyan jhade hai bhai dekhe hai jise gyani hain UP aale desh ke 80% chor daku UP k hain
koi shak???????
Think well before u write
Rakesh bhai...galat baat...ghanni galatt baat.
ratananmol
July 9th, 2006, 12:34 AM
Friends:
I have praised my fellows from UP (i belong to delhi) but my statements are based on facts...most of my teachers in undergrad were jats from UP and had a lasting influence on me...koi shakkkk
rkumar
July 9th, 2006, 12:43 AM
Friends:
I have praised my fellows from UP (i belong to delhi) but my statements are based on facts...most of my teachers in undergrad were jats from UP and had a lasting influence on me...koi shakkkk
Bhai Ratan,
Yen UP ke Jat pata ne dilli me jake itna badhiya kyoon padhaaven..UP ka to haal bura hai...Ek bhi Master to na padhawan ku rajji wahan..
let us be logical. You can not draw conclusions based upon few of your teachers..These few teachers can not be taken as repersentatives of UP jats.. aur bhai aakhir baat yaa sun ebb Ratan...tum dilli wale jat bahut tej ho...kyoon Haryana aur UP ke Jatton ko lada ke maje len ke mood me ho bhala.. poori try kar lo tum dilli wale, hum na ladenge...hum bilkul ek hai...
RK^2
vijay
July 9th, 2006, 12:48 AM
hahhaha... nahi bhai aisa kuch nahi... Even I don't agree with the comments of Ratan Anmol.. Jats of UP and Haryana are 100% identical. It takes just one comment to trigger either of them to bring into a fight....LOL .. Bhai ek bhi famous daku aaj tak waise Jat nahi huaa...at least to my knowldge.. Sultana Daku se lagakar Phoolan Devi kisi ko bhi le lo...han thodee bahut gunda giri ki jahan tak baat wo to har jati ka aadmi mil jayegaa ... Bakki Jatton ko seeng bhidaane ki aadat jaroor hai...jab koi na mile to aaps me bhaadan laga karen yen..
RK^2
Right RK sir,
Jats are jats, whether they are from Haryana, UP, Rajasthan or somewhere else.
rkumar
July 9th, 2006, 12:54 AM
and now my final words friends... I will not tolerate any Jat to be projected below or above another Jat, irrespective of his state, village, gotra or anything...So refrain from making any judgements...Jat blood is same, be it from any place... We are all bothers.... Jat chahe kahin ka bhi ho, uskee izzat hum sabki izzat hai..
RK^2
amithooda
July 9th, 2006, 02:03 AM
Friends:
I have praised my fellows from UP (i belong to delhi) but my statements are based on facts...most of my teachers in undergrad were jats from UP and had a lasting influence on me...koi shakkkk
bhai anmol agar aap facts par aane lage to yaha logo ke paas itne facts hai ki puri duniya apne facts bhul jaye. well i am not saying this to change ur thinking bt to make u realise tht facts are just ur expys may be some other guy has diff facts so dnt be judgemental based onfacts.. moreover if u think being from up makes u more intelligent and superior than we dnt mind u can think watever u wish to.... but dnt ever underestimate any jat whether from haryana, up or rajasthan or anywhere down the earth
so keep tha in mind mere bhai
regards
amit hooda
sunitahooda
July 10th, 2006, 11:59 AM
Vikas....ye galatfehmi apne dil se nikaal do ki koyi bhedbhav hai....kuch differences hain aur kuchh personal problems par iss ke liye 2 states ke sarey logon ko dosh dena galat hai jo ki shuru me maine bhi kiya tha aur rahi shadi ki baat....Meri Tayi Ji Rajasthan se hain/Ek Chachi UP se hain aur meri eklauti Bhabhi UP ki hain aur bohot respected hain....pata nahi tere ko kiski kya baat buri lagi jo aise likha hai agar koyi differences hain kisi ke saath to clarify kar lo....aur nahi to bhool jao aur khush raho:)
prashantacmet
July 10th, 2006, 02:39 PM
Hmmmmm....... Good thread started Vikasse.......... I don't wnt to start any controversy here & i appraise all the elders who tackle the such sensitive thread so easily. But the fact is fact,if u generalize the matter Vikas is correct in his observation. I have also experienced the same as VIKAS has mentioned here. There is a gap in our hearts & we need to fill that..............