Sanjay Dutt

[chhillar]

It was so disturbing today to find out lot of people are of the opinion that Sanjay Dutt should not be punished even if he has committed the crime of being an aide to Dawood in killing all those people. How can they be worried about Sanjay Dutt's fate 'even' if he is a criminal.

I have not idea how these think, whoever their GOD is, I pray him to forgive them, they don't know what they are doing

[hdsura]

Change that name to Sanjay Singh Sura and then take a survey.

You may get more than desired and Godly opinion. -:(

[yudhvirmor]

Change that name to Sanjay Singh Sura and then take a survey.

You may get more than desired and Godly opinion. -:(

On which moral grounds people are asking to condone Sanjay Dutt.

he must be lynched on the streets of Mumbai. He was a terrorist and he is still doing the same.

This guy is running parllel govt in mumbai. He deserves harsh punishment.

I dont know on what basis people are putting such ideas.

[netrapalsingh]

It was so disturbing today to find out lot of people are of the opinion that Sanjay Dutt should not be punished even if he has committed the crime of being an aide to Dawood in killing all those people. How can they be worried about Sanjay Dutt's fate 'even' if he is a criminal.

I have not idea how these think, whoever their GOD is, I pray him to forgive them, they don't know what they are doing


sir jee aap to sanjay dutt kee bat kar rahe hai log to ek atankwadi kee
fasi tak ko galat bata rahe hai or to or andolan kar rahe hai. ye samaj
hai jo aadmi upar chad gaya use log bhagwaan man lete hai abhi kuch
samay pahale salman khan ne soye hue logo par gadi chadha dee
kya uuskee saja par vivad nahi hoga.

sir jee yahi india hai.......

netra...........

[cooljat]

he's one of my all time fav movie star n I dont think he's a Terrorist, may be he had terms with Mafia Dons like almost all the Bollywood have, but I believe he's a nice man like his father, n certainly not a terrorist!

Im quite happy he's free!

Rock on
Jit

[netrapalsingh]

he's one of my all time fav movie star n I dont think he's a Terrorist, may be he had terms with Mafia Dons like almost all the Bollywood have, but I believe he's a nice man like his father, n certainly not a terrorist!

Im quite happy he's free!

Rock on
Jit

ha bhai theek kaha wo Terrorist ho hee nahi sakta kyo kee wo bada admi
agar uske jagah netra pal sinch choudhary hota to aankh moond kar fasi
par chadha dedte bade admi ke sab apradh maf...........salman khan bhee nirdosh hoga....
agar uske uppar koi case hai to wo kahi na kahi involve to hai hee.
sunny deol ke uppar case kyo nahi hai?.

netra......

[brainspeak]

well the court has not convicted sanjay dutt under TADA but he has been found guilty under the arms act....as per this act the max sentence is 3-5 yrs....nd he has already served 18 months...so he isnt going scotfree...maybe granted a lighter sentence...
as per his credentials as a terrorist..well cant say much abt tht...

aur bhai netrapal yeh celebrity log jab picture mein aa jate hain to log react karte hain..opinion dete hain...aur media choti baaton ko bada ban deti hai aur badi baat ko chota.....

[ravinderdahiya]

Jeet Bhai,
It doesn't really matter whether somebody is your favorite actor or my actor.
He has been found guilty by the court of law.
and what do you mean by he may have contacts with terrorists but he himself is not a terrorist. so, according to this statement Pakistan may be training terrorists in their own land, they may be financing them but they are not responsible for the loss of human life in India.
The person who provides logistic support to terrorists is also a terrorist.

[rohittewatia]

Inh fim stars kah to public maiin jaloos nikalna chahiye...taaki yeh jo high class log aisey kaam karte haiin inaka nasha to utaare. Sirf sanjay dutt hih naheen, baaki jitne bhi salman khan(Mafia) type key hero haiin, inako jailon key darshan karwate rehana chahiye...

[trueblueindian]

you all may wish to comment anything here, but less honour the realities.

according to me sanjay dutt can never be a anti national element, yesss money makes one to wish to posess lots of fancies, AK's were his, cummon one does things according to ones wins and fancies, mano ya mat par aisa hota hai doston, how many jats dont wish and posess a mouser/gun..... yes he was wrong there having it, no doubts on this.

least, u all may not be aware this entire probe was done by a very senior CBI official (Jt. director, CBI) and he is famous for his unbiaised functioning, many would be surprised to know he's a Jat and as heard he was very much dedicated towards this case, infact he must have risked his life, donno why but i have full trust in his findings.... the entire credentials of these findings go to a JAT, wot more....

are all those who are writing here have any proof of him being a terorist, bade aadmi ki baat kahan sae aa gayi, hasnt he been co-operating, didnt he spent time in jail, we should appreciate facts, i plead dont write against sumone if u r not that sure !!!

[netrapalsingh]

you all may wish to comment anything here, but less honour the realities.

according to me sanjay dutt can never be a anti national element, yesss money makes one to wish to posess lots of fancies, AK's were his, cummon one does things according to ones wins and fancies, mano ya mat par aisa hota hai doston, how many jats dont wish and posess a mouser/gun..... yes he was wrong there having it, no doubts on this.

least, u all may not be aware this entire probe was done by a very senior CBI official (Jt. director, CBI) and he is famous for his unbiaised functioning, many would be surprised to know he's a Jat and as heard he was very much dedicated towards this case, infact he must have risked his life, donno why but i have full trust in his findings.... the entire credentials of these findings go to a JAT, wot more....

are all those who are writing here have any proof of him being a terorist, bade aadmi ki baat kahan sae aa gayi, hasnt he been co-operating, didnt he spent time in jail, we should appreciate facts, i plead dont write against sumone if u r not that sure !!!


dabas bhai aap shat pratishat sahi ho sakte hai parantoo aap proof kee baat kar rahe hai kya jo atankwaadi hai oonkaa koi proof hai agar hai oonkee fansi kyo tali...........?

netra............

[sunnysangwan]

dabas bhai aap shat pratishat sahi ho sakte hai parantoo aap proof kee baat kar rahe hai kya jo atankwaadi hai oonkaa koi proof hai agar hai oonkee fansi kyo tali...........?

netra............

Netrapal ji
Aapne to court ko bhi jhutla diya. Court ne bhi ye verdict sunaya hai ki vo terrorist nahin hai fir aap kis basis pe itna strongle bol rahein hain. Aapke hisaab se to court bhi bekaar hai.
Jo uska kasoor tha uski saza usse mil rahi hai, aur kya fansi chadha dein kya usko.

[dahiyarules]

I do not want to choose a punishment for Sanjay Dutt. But, my guess is that the Judge will at the most sentence him for 2 years. Of which, he has already done 18 months. So, he goes in for 6 months. +/- one year.

Any one in for bets?

[fool4love]

I do not want to choose a punishment for Sanjay Dutt. But, my guess is that the Judge will at the most sentence him for 2 years. Of which, he has already done 18 months. So, he goes in for 6 months. +/- one year.

Any one in for bets?

yeah.. about a year .. don see him going for more than that!

[netrapalsingh]

Netrapal ji
Aapne to court ko bhi jhutla diya. Court ne bhi ye verdict sunaya hai ki vo terrorist nahin hai fir aap kis basis pe itna strongle bol rahein hain. Aapke hisaab se to court bhi bekaar hai.
Jo uska kasoor tha uski saza usse mil rahi hai, aur kya fansi chadha dein kya usko.

pradeep bhai mai kisi ko galat nahi bata raha logo kee sunjay dutt ke prati
to bhawnaye hai mai oonkee kadar karta hoo lekin kuch sawal hai:-

1. uske paas jo hathiyar tha wo usne kyo liya kya wah gunda hai ya kisise khatara hai?

2. agar use hathiyar kee jarurat bhee thee to uska license kyo nahi tha?

3. wo ek reputed person hai usko license mil sakta tha...

4. atankwadi se batchit ka jo tape pahale jari kiya gaya tha uska kya hua?

ye kuch sawal hai jo sandheh paida karte hai.

ye mere apne vichar hai mai sanjay dutt ke khilaf nahi hoo par agar koi
kasoorwar hai to use saja milni chahiye...........

netra.......

[brainspeak]

yeh sawal aapke hi nahin court ke mann mein bhi sandeh paida karte hain isliye court ne arms act te tahat sanjay dutt ko doshi karar diya hai...ab saja kitni di jayegi woh dekhna hai.....

[kharub]

he's one of my all time fav movie star n I dont think he's a Terrorist, may be he had terms with Mafia Dons like almost all the Bollywood have, but I believe he's a nice man like his father, n certainly not a terrorist!

Im quite happy he's free!

Rock on
Jit


Jit Bhai ..

Tell me something .. he is a good movie star .. How does that make him a good person .. Do you know him personally to vouch for him ???

He is certainly guilty .... he should be punished .. just because he acts in Ghandigiri does not make him a nice guy ...

He is a good actor and he is making millions out of it .......... i dont understand the logic of people like you supporting him so blindly ... what good has he doen for you .. or your country ??

Just because you like the way he dances and delivers dialouges in movies you are vouching for his innocence ............ thats pathetic

[kharub]

I donot think he was involved in terrorism .. but he is certainly a drug addict ... he sniffs coccaine like anything .... and the whole AK-47 episode was just becasue he wanted big boys toys .. big cares .. big guns ....... drugs..

I do not think he was a party to the terrorist conspiracy ........... but still he is guilty of dealing with mafia and illegal weapons ..... and in real he is guilty of much more than we know .... and drug abuse charges are certainly among those things

[chhillar]

Ref: TOI...

The big question pertains to the same set of evidence that has set Dutt free from Tada charges but convicted others, including 64-year-old Zaibunnisa, on the same ground.

Manzoor Ahmed helped Dutt acquire the AK-56 rifles, a 9-mm pistol and other ammunition. He also helped the actor in removing and destroying the weapons and was duly convicted under Tada.

And Zaibunnisa, who kept the ammunitions in her house in Jogeshwari for a few hours after it was removed from Dutt's house, also found herself guilty under Tada.

Manzoor and Zaibunnisa were convicted for "aiding and abetting" a terrorist act. But the court did not find Dutt "to be a terrorist".

The main person — who asked for the weapons, bought them, allowed terrorists into his house, called them to remove and destroy the weapons — is let off Tada charges whereas others who worked for him are convicted under Tada

[chhillar]

Who is a terrorist?

The one who scares people
The one flies a plane into the building
The one who has weapons of mass destruction
The one who has enough arms and ammunition at home to kill hundreds of people
The who has close connections with terrorist groups
Sanjay Dutt
Blind fans of a Sanjay Dutt
If Manzoor and Zaibunnisa are convicted under TADA for "aiding and abetting" a terrorist act why not blind fans
Answer is all of the above!!!

[dahiyarules]

Who is a terrorist?

The one who scares people
The one flies a plane into the building
The one who has weapons of mass destruction
The one who has enough arms and ammunition at home to kill hundreds of people
The who has close connections with terrorist groups
Sanjay Dutt
Blind fans of a Sanjay Dutt
If Manzoor and Zaibunnisa are convicted under TADA for "aiding and abetting" a terrorist act why not blind fans
Answer is all of the above!!!

Chillar Sahab!

The one terrorist that perfectly fits the description above according to me is the Government itself.

1. Remember Pearl Harbor: Japanese Kamikazes flying planes into buildings and ships.

2. Remember Operation Bluestar. How Indira Gandhi terrorized the entire state of Punjab.

3. 9 governments including Indias' have Weapons of mass destruction.

4. India has the third largest army and enough ammunition to destroy the entire world. I am not even counting the 5 permanent members of the security council.

5. Remember India started the LTTE in Sri Lanka and the Muki Vahini in Bangladesh. LTTE is a globally recognized terrorist organization in the world. Mukti Vahini used to be the same in the late 60s until liberation of Bangladesh.

I do not want to have a debate on this. People know whats my position on this issue.

The TADA law has been controversial from the very beginning. It is the precedent of the patriot act of the United States. It place unchecked powers un the hands of the government.

Does anyone even have any idea how many people are being held in Indian prisons under TADA?

It gives enough power to the police to pick you up from the airport next time you land in India and extend your remand every 15 days as long as they feel that they still have more information to get out of you.

Why does a citizen need a license to have a gun?

Who gives the government the license to have guns?

If it were a fair system, the government would be required to through the same degree of checks and balances like an every day ordinary citizen.

So, if the government doesnt need a license to own guns, the citizens should not need a license either.

As far he is concerned for talking to the underworld on the phone, the entire bollywood does. Infact, private citzens also do. Example businessmen, corporators and contractors.

If I get a call from Dawood, would I be considered a terrorist?

I heard the tapes, and Sanjay Dutt was anyting but complacent.

We need to get rid of this "bolshevik mentality" against rich and successful people.

Sanjay Dutt got the reprieves not because he is rich and famous, because he could afford a good enough legal team to prove his innocense on certain charges.

Anyone with that kind of resources can do that in a court of law.

And if you think that this is an indication of a flaw in our legal system, then there must be a flaw with the constitution because it is the precursor of our legal system?

So, I guess ya'll will agree with me that the constitution is flawed, and thus needs to be gotten rid of.

HaHaHa :) :)

[chhillar]

BTW Sanjay did not get just a call from Dawood he got assault rifles and ammunition...Sumit tun te mera bira Vakeel banwa ho se, you would be good replacement of dotard Jethmalamni

[brainspeak]

first nd foremost its the policy of the American govt tht is at fault in promoting terrorism around the world...

nd if u ask me who is a terrorist,chiilar ji i say AFZAL is a terrorist....who is now being termed as a martyr...

abt the preventive detention laws not only TADA..but POTA(now repealed) nd the armed forces act in the north east r draconian laws...which led to unrest nd arrest of various innocent people...these laws were formulated to control terrorism but unfortunately indirectly fuelled its growth....
such laws give unlimited power to people especially at the lower ranks....who misuse it deliberately...nd the whole purpose of these preventive laws is defeated...

nd wht is the fault with the constitution??...constituion says the law is supreme.....
nd the CrPC also maintains tht the guilty shud be punished....if there was a flaw...sanjay dutt wud not have been punished at all....judge wud have said ki--appko baaizzat bari kiya jata hai...which hasnt happened...

[kharub]

I personally think that justice has not been served in this case and Sanjay Dutt is being let off too easy ...... he deserves a harsher sentence or his accomplices a more linient sentence .........

This is a mockery of justice in a democratic country ...... where all citizens are supposed to be same in the eyes of the Law

[yudhvirmor]

[quote=kharub;123807]I donot think he was involved in terrorism .. but he is certainly a drug addict ... he sniffs coccaine like anything .... and the whole AK-47 episode was just becasue he wanted big boys toys .. big cares .. big guns ....... drugs..

His age that time was around 34 years. Do we think he was kid that time?

He was not and it was all planned and he was a part of conspiracy. After that also he caught talking to Chota Shakeel over the phone, He was in some hotel in Nashik.

Sniffing coccaine can be desire for 34 yr old but carrying AK 47 and Gernades is not joke, and he must beaware of those facts that time.

These all are excuses to save this bad guy.

His mother was muslim, so he has soft corner towards them and still he is well connected with D company

[chhillar]

His mother was muslim, so he has soft corner towards them and still he is well connected with D company

Come on More Saab! Let's don't go there.

[yudhvirmor]

Come on More Saab! Let's don't go there.

Theek hai sir ji, waise bhi abhi jeene kaa maan hai, uski maa dora jaa ke kee karunga.

isse terrorist naa toh paaliyan dora chod de..

Ek hafte unke lathen talle ke likad ge naa toh yeh adami baan jange.

hahaha :D :D :D

[brainspeak]

so the issue here is tht he has been punished , but not punished enough....
nd the concept of equality before law is a negative one....the more positive one is the concept of equal protection of law...
in this case equal potection of law hasnt been extended as pointed out by chillar ji tht another person...a relatively unknown nd belonging to poorer background has been convicted on the same charges on which sanjay dutt has been let off...

[itsnavin]

Ha ha...now there are two more additions to the list of convicts:

- Shibu Soren
- Navjot Singh Sidhu

I think court are making headlines these days. And in the coming days there will some decisions on Nitish Katara, Jessica Lal and Mattoo case...

[brainspeak]

well the one case tht wud have really been a landmark,had the judgement nd the conviction been proper was the BMW case..where eventually the car turned into a truck...nd the Nanda guy went free...

[cooljat]

Hey! Guys, dont get me wrong!!!
I'm happy just cuz he's my fav. movie star....it certainly doesnt mean that I'm supporting him blindly; U know, final judgment is out & he freed from TADA Allegations but at the same time he found guilty in arms act.

I believe Court knows better then us that's why it gave justice to him, btw who the hell we're to rate him Terrorist!?

@Mor: Mor bhai, atleast I didnt expect from u, its really disappointin to read ur cheap comment about his mother, I feel as par u even India's most respected Hon'ble President Kalam also has links with D company & terrorist, what do u say???

Well, in last I feel we're wasting our time here since his case is over & now we're discussing in vein!!


I'm sorry if someone got hurt by my posts!


Thanks!

Rock on
Jit

[chhillar]

@Mor: Mor bhai, atleast I didnt expect from u, its really disappointin to read ur cheap comment about his mother, I feel as par u even India's most respected Hon'ble President Kalam also has links with D company & terrorist, what do u say???

Can you substantiate with something that Kalam saab had some thing to do with Dawood ...if I read your English correctly bro!!!

[gaganjat]

ik tai india mai acchi personality aale logga ki kami sai ar jo sai voae tham jail mai bhejan laag rhe so nue kyokar kaam chalega bhaio. mai tai nue kahu hu sanjay dutt nai prime minister banado india ko represent karnne do.

[cooljat]

chillar bhaisaab,
mein angrezi mein thoda kamjor saa hoon isliye maafi chahta hoon :p
lekin mein nu bata reha tha ke Mor bhai ke hisab se har muslam terrorist hai...muje ye baat buri laagi...I agree that most of the terrorists belong to muslim community but still some of them're nice ppl.

aur haan mere hisab se India mein sabse respectable person Abdul Kalam hai!! isliye mein Mor bhai se nu pooche tha ke uske hisab se Kalam saab ke bhi connection honge D company & Terrorists se, kyunki vo bhi ek Muslim hai,

Now I think u got it right! thanks!

rock on
Jit


Can you substantiate with something that Kalam saab had some thing to do with Dawood ...if I read your English correctly bro!!!

[chhillar]

chillar bhaisaab,
mein angrezi mein thoda kamjor saa hoon isliye maafi chahta hoon :p


If you think just sticking out your tongue on people will help you with your English, God bless you with your positive attitude!!!
As far as my views on Islam go, I don't think it has anything to do with terrorism...I have a problem with word Kaffir though...it might have a relevance to terrorism
Nargis?...good actress...no further questions please!!!
Jit Thakar...Cool Jat!!!

[dahiyarules]

[LIST]
As far as my views on Islam go, I don't think it has anything to do with terrorism...I have a problem with word Kaffir though...it might have a relevance to terrorism



Chritians call non-christian people, "Pagans."

Jews call non-jewish people "goya."

The three biggest religions on earth that preach tollerance have no tollerance for other faiths. It isnt just Islam. Islams other two brothers: Christanity and Judaism hate other religions with equal fervor.

I am not trying to incite anyone. But, the point is that we cannot just go out of our way to make a scapegoat out of one problematic faith when it has its other contemporaries that have equally detestable views.

Hinduism has its own drawbacks too. No faith is perfect. So lets just stop singling out one faith.

[cooljat]

Chillar Bhaisaab,
ram ram!

I was wondering about this sarcastic reply from u but finally got it where I made the mistake. I feel sorry for this " :p " smily .....actaully I wanted to add this " :) " smily but I did this blunder by chance, so plz correct [ :p] with [:)] thanks!

Bhaisaab, keep guidin....kyunki aap jaise bade bahiyon ke supervision mein abhi aur bhi bahut kuch sikhna hai not merely English.


Rock on,
Jit



If you think just sticking out your tongue on people will help you with your English, God bless you with your positive attitude!!!
As far as my views on Islam go, I don't think it has anything to do with terrorism...I have a problem with word Kaffir though...it might have a relevance to terrorism
Nargis?...good actress...no further questions please!!!
Jit Thakar...Cool Jat!!!

[mann123]

In my view the rule of law should be there and Sanjay Dutt should be treated just like an ordinary citizen and must not go unpunished.

I am of the same view for Salman khan and party as well. These people are dictating the judiciary from last 20 years with their money. if they would have been an ordinary citizen they would have got the punishment.

Even our judiciary system is also bekau, judges love to have money with what ever means.

[dahiyarules]

In my view the rule of law should be there and Sanjay Dutt should be treated just like an ordinary citizen and must not go unpunished.

I am of the same view for Salman khan and party as well. These people are dictating the judiciary from last 20 years with their money. if they would have been an ordinary citizen they would have got the punishment.

Even our judiciary system is also bekau, judges love to have money with what ever means.

Are you suggesting that the Judges are being bribed? Do you have any evidence to support it?

I still believe that any one with the resources to hire the best legal defense has a better chance of surviving the courts. You must know the difference that a good lawyer can make.

Look at this Vikas Yadav case. He got Ram Jethmalani to defend him. At the least he will miss the noose and go to Jail for 13 year. If Jethmalani tries harder it could be much lesser than 13 years.

I know Vikas Yadav personally. And he is a total menace. I think that the longer he is kept away from the society the better it will be for all of us.

Point is that the court does not give preferential treatment to people. I think that the judges are the most honest people in our society. You will never know of a judge who has assets that are unproportional to their income.

Lets give the credit to Sanjay Dutt's legal counsel instead of blaming the Judiciary.

[brainspeak]

Judges r bribed nd they willingly accept it...nd this is rampant especially in the lower courts....high court nd supreme court judges too r not immune from it...
last year there was a standoff between the CJ of Punjab nd Haryana HC nd the rest of the judges...the basis was -- CJ had raised his doubts over the conduct nd judgements of certain judges...judges had accepted memberships of expensive country clubs nd other gifts...which was not in accordance to their position...this is just one case....
moreover judiciary comprises not only of the judges but large number of understaff ,clerks etc who r corrupt to the core....
nd if u want hard evidence...dont pay ur traffic fine instead submit ur RC/licence to the cops...then go to the court to retrieve ur RC/licence...u will have ur evidence....

nd its manu sharma who has hired Ram Jethmalani not Vikas Yadav....
nd i wont be surprised if Manu Sharma walks free...knowing Jethmalani's legal brilliance...

[chhillar]

You will never know of a judge who has assets that are unproportional to their income.
I don't beleive that at all as 'know' it is not true.

[dahiyarules]

Judges r bribed nd they willingly accept it...nd this is rampant especially in the lower courts....high court nd supreme court judges too r not immune from it...
last year there was a standoff between the CJ of Punjab nd Haryana HC nd the rest of the judges...the basis was -- CJ had raised his doubts over the conduct nd judgements of certain judges...judges had accepted memberships of expensive country clubs nd other gifts...which was not in accordance to their position...this is just one case....
moreover judiciary comprises not only of the judges but large number of understaff ,clerks etc who r corrupt to the core....
nd if u want hard evidence...dont pay ur traffic fine instead submit ur RC/licence to the cops...then go to the court to retrieve ur RC/licence...u will have ur evidence....

nd its manu sharma who has hired Ram Jethmalani not Vikas Yadav....
nd i wont be surprised if Manu Sharma walks free...knowing Jethmalani's legal brilliance...



Ha Ha Ha

So you agree that the government sponsored legal system is highly flawed.

Do not talk of fixing it. There is simply no way of fixing a system without accountability just like you cannot straighten a dog's tail.

[brainspeak]

well its the people who make the system nd if people r flawed...the system will be flawed too....
legal system nd the law is there as the guideline/rulebook...it doesnt say anywhere tht donot punish anyone....