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rohit62
June 11th, 2007, 12:09 AM
DEAR ALL

i am starting this thread to ascertain your views on one of the greatest war hero of india and the only jat to win the PARAM VIR CHAKRA THE HIGHEST BRAVERY AWARD OF INDIA. I am talking about col hoshiar singh PVC,I am not sure how many of the younger genration of jats have heard about him or to a certain extent the older genration also.
i was today going through a thread by a fellow jat member who has listed the names of brave the jats in varoius fields including army. I think if winning the highest award for bravery is not bieng brave enough then what's it.
the bloodiest battle of the INDO PAK WAR 71 was fought by then maj hoshiar singh the fact which justifeis it is that that apart from maj hoshiar singh getting the THE PARAM VIR CHAKRA the tank officer who came to support him (as the paksitanis when realishing they cannot overrun maj hoshiar singh and his men had sent tanks to to run over them) LT ARUN KHETRAPAL ALSO GOT THE PARAM VIR CHAKRA.THE opposing enemies of both maj hoshair singh and khetrapal also got the highest bravery award of pakistan THE NISHAN-E-HAIDER.its the only occasion in not only the history of INDO -PAK WAR but probably the world also.
after the cease fire the pakistani officers came over to the indian side for interaction with indians, they exprsed the desire to meet the coy cdr who had fought this battle (ie maj hoshiar singh)but by that time he was already evacucated to hospital being serously injured.
the point of highlighting his bravery now is to keep his memory alive in the minds of the fellow jats and to aprize the younger jats of his acts of heroism.
i am presently serving in the same battalion of which maj hoshiar belongs to and presently we are in ethopia in un mission.I had chance meeting with few PAKISTANI MILITARY OFFICERS also serving in the UN.THEY started asking me about the well being of maj hoshiar singh. i said how do u know him? they were surprised by my question they said as a soldier they respect a soldier and his act of valour is highly respected in the history of pakistan army .IN FACT THEY TOLD ME HE BELONGED TO a village called SISANA which surprised me no end.
IT saadens me no end to know that here is a man whose bravery is acknowleged and respected in PAKISTAN BUT THERE IS NO TRACE or sign of his name in his home state of harayana.
i wish the politicians of his home state at least take a cue from the pakis and respected his bravery and heroism now .

though there is a road named after him in colaba mumbai an a statue in jaipur but then it is the home which matters in this case HARAYANA.

BUT I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER CASE OF GHAR KI MURGI DAAL BARABAR

lrburdak
June 11th, 2007, 08:21 AM
Hi,

He is not a forgotten Hero. Here he is on Jatland Wiki !!!

See the link


http://www.jatland.com/home/Maj_Hoshiar_Singh


You will find army people in these categories.


http://www.jatland.com/home/Category:The_Brave_People

http://www.jatland.com/home/Category:Jats_in_Army

http://www.jatland.com/home/Category:The_Administrators

http://www.jatland.com/home/Category:Famous_Jat_People

If you see some body is not there you can add.

Regards,

netrapalsingh
June 11th, 2007, 09:45 AM
Hi,

He is not a forgotten Hero. Here he is on Jatland Wiki !!!

See the link


http://www.jatland.com/home/Maj_Hoshiar_Singh


You will find army people in these categories.


http://www.jatland.com/home/Category:The_Brave_People

http://www.jatland.com/home/Category:Jats_in_Army

http://www.jatland.com/home/Category:The_Administrators

http://www.jatland.com/home/Category:Famous_Jat_People

If you see some body is not there you can add.

Regards,

Sir jee ye Hoshiyar Singh Dhaiya wo hee to nahi hai jinhone apne officer Major General Col ka order manne se inkar kar diya tha wo war ladi jisme use param veer chakar bhee mila or unpar mukadma bhee chal that. Wo aisa suna hai kee 1961 kee war me jab pakistan ne hamla kiya to us samay inke pass bharpoor hathiyar or army nahi the is lilye Hoshiyar singh dhiya se coul ne attack karne se manakiya or major ne uskee bat n man kar pakistani sens se bhid gaye the.

or ek or Major. Dhillon hai pls unke jinko param veer chakara mila that pls unke bare me bhee kuch bataye.

netra...

yatinder19
June 11th, 2007, 10:48 AM
He is not forgotten.He is known by Bachcha-Bachcha in villages.In cities people not be knowing him.I heard so many inspiring stories about him.He is Legend in our minds.

nmalik121
June 11th, 2007, 11:38 AM
I am extremely proud of the patriots likes col hoshiar singh PVC and many others who have laid down their lives for India and Indians.

rohit62
June 11th, 2007, 12:17 PM
Dear Mr Netrapal
He Is Maj Hoshiar Singh, He Fought The 1971 War With Pakistan. You Are Confusing Him With Brig Hoshiar Singh Who Fought The 1962 War With China. He Too Is A Legend In The Jat History.maj Dhillon You Are Talking About Was Not Awarded The Param Vir Chakra.

dndeswal
June 11th, 2007, 02:27 PM
Dear Mr Netrapal
He Is Maj Hoshiar Singh, He Fought The 1971 War With Pakistan. You Are Confusing Him With Brig Hoshiar Singh Who Fought The 1962 War With China. He Too Is A Legend In The Jat History.maj Dhillon You Are Talking About Was Not Awarded The Param Vir Chakra.

Yes, Brig. Hoshiar Singh belonged to village Sankhol, a Rathee gotra village, just next to Bahadurgarh on NH-10. There is a stadium at Bahadurgarh in his name. The shaheed of China war was so popular that Nehru, alongwith Sardar Pratap Singh Kairo, then CM of Punjab, had personally visited his house to pay tribute. If anyone knows more about this Hero, please write here so that his name is also included at Jatland Wiki.
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ranjitjat
June 11th, 2007, 11:09 PM
http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4551&page=4

DND Deswal Ji
Here is old thread about Brig Hoshiar Singh
I met him at Raj-Rif centre Re-unoin when he was CO.
I have also met Col Hoshiar Singh dahiya at Vijay Chok Parade The day he Got PVC 26 JAN 1973. I have started few thread here for both of them.
this is also in My book France to Kargil- bharat ky yudhveero ko Itihas.
We will always remember them. see also poet corner.

rohit62
June 12th, 2007, 02:29 AM
DEAR MR DESWAL
Brig HOSHIAR SINGH was a BRIGADE COMMANDER IN NEFA(NOW ARUNACHAL PARDESH)IN 1962 INDO- CHINA WAR.despite the acts of valour and heroism by the brave soldiers of india we were ovverpowered by by the sheer numerical strenght of the the chinese army in this war. the indian army had to withdraw from no of its positions as the chinese came like ants with total disregard to the human life(chinese)on the indian defences.
in one such situation maj gen nirajan parsad asked BRIG HOSHIAR SINGH to vacate his position and withdraw back.
BRIG HOSHIAR SINGH wanted to stay back and fight. BUT the authorites realishing that he had little resources at his hand to fight the chinese ordered him to withdraw.
it is while withdrawing that he was ambushed by the chinese and killed despite puuting up a great fight.
he did not dis obey the orders or was court martiaaled as widely speculated. he was a brave soldier who was awarded the IOM(INDIAN ORDER OF MERIT) AND IDSM(INDIAN DISTINGUISHED SERVICE MEDAL) by the british army.

rohit62
June 12th, 2007, 02:48 AM
DEAR ALL
i speak with complete authority that BRIG HOSHIAR SINGH despite bieng one of the bravest soldiers of the indian army did not get any medal of the indian army.

netrapalsingh
June 12th, 2007, 12:53 PM
DEAR ALL
i speak with complete authority that BRIG HOSHIAR SINGH despite bieng one of the bravest soldiers of the indian army did not get any medal of the indian army.

sir jee major dhilon ko param veer chakra mil chuka hai par unka poora nam or kis war me mila mujhe nahi maloom param veer chakra ke nam se ek serial ataaa tha usem unka jikra mane dekha tha or mai chaan been kar raha ha hoo report milne par batoonga.

Birg.Hoshiyar sing ke bare me jo jankaaree aapne dee uske liye dhanyad

netra...

rohit62
June 12th, 2007, 02:18 PM
dear mr netrapal
IT must be flt lt sehkon and not maj dhillon.sekhon got it in the 1971 war with pakistan.
the sikhs who have got the param vir chakra are -

1 lance naik karam singh 1948
2 subedar joginder singh 1962
3 flyng offr ns sekhon 1971
4 naib sub bana singh 1987

so any maj dhillon does not fig in the pvc list .i have the compelte list of the 21 pvc winners.