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trueblueindian
October 20th, 2007, 06:58 PM
Was surfing jatland ... read the below mentioned thread of DND ji ... truly moved by the comments of DND ji and brig. sir....
http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20365&page=2

writing follwoing lines on the same subject ______________

har chehere par gussa hai, pareshani hai ....
loog keheten hai dilllii dilwalo ki hai... lagta hai yeah baat bahut poorani hai ...

dosh hai, dwesh hai ... harr aek chehere par laggey nakaab hai ....
na jaaane kaisi yeah dastaan hai, lagti suni sunai si hai...

sunney thae kissey in hawao mei bhi taazgi thi
aaj tou naa jaaney yahan basti kaunsi udaaasi hai
dillli dilwalo ki hi lagta hai yeah baat baut purani hai ....

to be contd..

would request fellow members to extend this emation in a poetic way on this thread

dndeswal
October 21st, 2007, 12:45 PM
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कहा करते थे पहले - जिसने देखी ना दिल्ली वो कुत्ता ना बिल्ली
ऊंचे सपनों की नगरी देखो, छोड़ गांव-घर आन बसे सब दिल्ली
बेकाबू 'ब्लू-लाइन', बहाये खून सड़कों पर, लोग मार रहे चिल्ली
सब तरफ बीमार चेहरे, किसी की खराब किडनी, किसी की झिल्ली
फांकते धूल, सूंघते धुआं, खायें तरकारी बासी, रहती तबीयत ढ़ीली
इस दिल्ली की हैं चार खासीयत - खार, खांसी, बुखार ताप-तिल्ली
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rameshlakra
October 21st, 2007, 01:46 PM
Excellent Deswal ji....... and very aptly and rightly described the true side of modern living. I read recently, that the most "enjoyable" things comes "free" and yet we fail to see those and run after "swanky" wheels or "happening" parties. A hearty laugh, an afternoon "nap", a draught of water after exercise are all free and most enjoyable moments.

devdahiya
October 21st, 2007, 09:07 PM
Jahan aaj asman chhuti buildings hein wahan ek Jat hal chalata tha
Subeh se sham apna khunn bahata tha

Aaj yahan badtamizi ki hawa behti hei
Kisi building mein Rozy tou kisi mein Hina rehti hei
Ek waqt yahan beill JAWARA khata tha
Subeh...........................

Aaj yahan concrete ke mehel ban gaye hein
Logon ki aatama aur haath lahu se sann gaye hein
Koi waqt tha jab yahan bhai behen ka 'seedhha' lata tha
Subeh.......................

Aaj yahan karroddon ke davv lagte hein
Harr ghar mein gambheer ghavv jaggte hein
Ek samay tha jab yahan jameen se insaan ka jeewan ka natta tha
Subeh..............

Aaj yahan sharaab aur jua chalta hei
Pehle daur shurru hote hein baad mei din dhhalta hei
Kabhi yahan insaan,insaan ko chahta tha
Subeh........................

Aaj yahan insaan ko keedde makkodde ki trah rondda jata hei
Har gali mein laddkiyon ki izzat ko kondhha jata hei
Ek waqt tha jab yahan insaan izzat pe kat-marr jata tha
Subeh..........

Ab Dilli mein luttere aur ehsaan framosh insannon ka bolbala hei
Uppar se sakkal chikkani par dil bhyankkar kala hei
Kisi waqt yahan Insaan ko uski insaniyat se jana jata tha.
Subeh...............................

trueblueindian
October 22nd, 2007, 02:00 PM
Jahan aaj asman chhuti buildings hein wahan ek Jat hal chalata tha
Subeh se sham apna khunn bahata tha

Kisi waqt yahan Insaan ko uski insaniyat se jana jata tha.
Subeh...............................

i feel that kaka you have brought out all pains in just few lines ... thx a lot for the contribution ...and making us aware of the current state in a poetic way ... the only benefit in this way is that this way all these sorrow's could be well remembered and we at times while taking a wrong step could stop ourselves if we keep these golden words in our mind ..and that was the sole purpose behind the thread... thx kaks ... thx

thx DND ji for your contribution in this thread as well ... the current state could not be described in a better way

ssindhu
October 24th, 2007, 06:54 PM
why defame delhi only for this sandesh. i feel the whole world is going delhi way. i just get to remember beatles song "stop the world and get me down, i m tired of going round and round".

trueblueindian
October 24th, 2007, 07:32 PM
why defame delhi only for this sandesh. i feel the whole world is going delhi way. i just get to remember beatles song "stop the world and get me down, i m tired of going round and round".

ummm well in a way u r rite seema ... but then its about what a place once was famous for ... and in no way imeant to defame my lovely city ... in other words i tried to recollect its old charm and speciality .... which surely now has been replced by individualistic approach ... world over the concept of neighbourhood, brotherhood, all for one approach never existed that way it was there in north india ... and especially delhi ... even cities like mumbai were and are considered behind on the terms of apnapan and the emotional reactions the way north indians vibrate ..... atleast USED TO

this is also related to prevellant business practices in these regions also .. like a delhi business person would deal and behave in a very diffrent manner from a mumbai business person ... its like in mumbai you wont be asked for a glass of water however in delhi aek dukan par bhi jaoge to chai paani jarur ho jata hai / tha ..... its just diffrent ....

hope you get my point ....

just read the lines once again ... .. .

har chehere par gussa hai, pareshani hai .... loog keheten hai dilllii dilwalo ki hai... lagta hai yeah baat bahut poorani hai

ssindhu
October 25th, 2007, 12:14 PM
ummm well in a way u r rite seema ... but then its about what a place once was famous for ... and in no way imeant to defame my lovely city ... in other words i tried to recollect its old charm and speciality .... which surely now has been replced by individualistic approach ... world over the concept of neighbourhood, brotherhood, all for one approach never existed that way it was there in north india ... and especially delhi ... even cities like mumbai were and are considered behind on the terms of apnapan and the emotional reactions the way north indians vibrate ..... atleast USED TO

this is also related to prevellant business practices in these regions also .. like a delhi business person would deal and behave in a very diffrent manner from a mumbai business person ... its like in mumbai you wont be asked for a glass of water however in delhi aek dukan par bhi jaoge to chai paani jarur ho jata hai / tha ..... its just diffrent ....

hope you get my point ....

just read the lines once again ... .. .

har chehere par gussa hai, pareshani hai .... loog keheten hai dilllii dilwalo ki hai... lagta hai yeah baat bahut poorani hai
i got the paraphrase the way u elaborated in my first read also. and i meant the same that not only delhi, all other cities too have changed this way.
but u kno wat sandesh, delhi is rowdy mostly because of immigrants here, we jats are still same and will always. u r right that the hospitality cult has lost itself somewhere, bt that too is coz of the cosmopolitan texture of the city. ppl fear getting close to immigrants and hence the indifferent attitude of the city.

but ironically delhi has the biggest page3 segment which contradicts ur point on being individualistic (ha ha. note that i mean ironically).

but i m still in love with it. to kya hua ye dil ab kam dhadakta hai. lol

trueblueindian
October 25th, 2007, 02:00 PM
i got the paraphrase the way u elaborated in my first read also. and i meant the same that not only delhi, all other cities too have changed this way.
but u kno wat sandesh, delhi is rowdy mostly because of immigrants here, we jats are still same and will always. u r right that the hospitality cult has lost itself somewhere, bt that too is coz of the cosmopolitan texture of the city. ppl fear getting close to immigrants and hence the indifferent attitude of the city.

but ironically delhi has the biggest page3 segment which contradicts ur point on being individualistic (ha ha. note that i mean ironically).

but i m still in love with it. to kya hua ye dil ab kam dhadakta hai. lol

hahhahhaah true .... very true ...crux is that it stiill "DHADAK's" for others and even strangers at times ......

lolzzz ironically liked ur reply very much........... hey hey ...

ssindhu
October 25th, 2007, 06:39 PM
hahhahhaah true .... very true ...crux is that it stiill "DHADAK's" for others and even strangers at times ......

lolzzz ironically liked ur reply very much........... hey hey ...
but you have opened the wounds of heart bringing this dismal picture of this city. you know i am fascinated by only two cities in india- kolkata and delhi. you know why, because these two seem to have some character. they are not only cities, they are a civilisation. so much diversity and so much to explore. you see probably that's the reason that many an artists are produced in kolkata and delhi has been the haven of many a sufi poets and painters...becuase their air is not air, it's vibes.

but sometimes heart just oozes blood and flesh that the character is spoiling, but i am sure it wont head the mumbai way.

sometimes fear that no gaman should be shot here. better keep such movies to mumbai. i should not see any farrokh sheikh driving taxi here and aching in heart as you wrote 'seene main jalan, aankoh main toofaan sa kyon hai, iss shehar main har shaksh pareshhan sa kyon hai"

trueblueindian
October 25th, 2007, 07:02 PM
but you have opened the wounds of heart bringing this dismal picture of this city. you know i am fascinated by only two cities in india- kolkata and delhi. you know why, because these two seem to have some character. they are not only cities, they are a civilisation. so much diversity and so much to explore. you see probably that's the reason that many an artists are produced in kolkata and delhi has been the haven of many a sufi poets and painters...becuase their air is not air, it's vibes.

but sometimes heart just oozes blood and flesh that the character is spoiling, but i am sure it wont head the mumbai way.

sometimes fear that no gaman should be shot here. better keep such movies to mumbai. i should not see any farrokh sheikh driving taxi here and aching in heart as you wrote 'seene main jalan, aankoh main toofaan sa kyon hai, iss shehar main har shaksh pareshhan sa kyon hai"

now this is emotional side of Seema .... touchy subject touchy feelings after all these feelings could be uderstaood by the one who has been a dili wala frm birth ....

dilli was just just diffrent those days ...

deing inboth job and business .. i have seen ppl frm diffrent regions / nations and i must say thers a diffrence allways ....

more so having my education frm school like tytler ... where from hindus to muslim groups were following their own lines .. we even had jat group ( STRONGEST EVER) and visiting the forbidden areas of old delhi .. traditional muslim houses where males werent allowed after a point i have had my share of love and affection from all these places .... its just diffrent way things happen now ....still remb. that mohalla thing ./... how ladies intreacted n winters ... aek charpai pae 6-6 ladies and all werein harmony ... sunday ko all males playing cards and gossiping around ... bacchey kaha hai ... kiskey ghar hai koi phikar nahi ... khana kiskey ghar mei bana hua hai ... kisi ko matlab nahi ...pakwaan banney hai tou padooos mei share jarur honge ... kya hota hai yeah sab ajjj .... shayad nahi ... agar hai pata aise aek bhi mohalley ka tou bata do ... wohi ja kar mei shayad rehena pasand karunga ...

......................... kai baaar bahut miss hotta hai yeah sab ... thankfull i have my child hoood friends with whom i am still in constant touch ... aur aisi hi aek shammm ko isss sher ka janam hua tha ... sweet memories ...

ssindhu
October 26th, 2007, 12:02 PM
now this is emotional side of Seema .... touchy subject touchy feelings after all these feelings could be uderstaood by the one who has been a dili wala frm birth ....

dilli was just just diffrent those days ...

deing inboth job and business .. i have seen ppl frm diffrent regions / nations and i must say thers a diffrence allways ....

more so having my education frm school like tytler ... where from hindus to muslim groups were following their own lines .. we even had jat group ( STRONGEST EVER) and visiting the forbidden areas of old delhi .. traditional muslim houses where males werent allowed after a point i have had my share of love and affection from all these places .... its just diffrent way things happen now ....still remb. that mohalla thing ./... how ladies intreacted n winters ... aek charpai pae 6-6 ladies and all werein harmony ... sunday ko all males playing cards and gossiping around ... bacchey kaha hai ... kiskey ghar hai koi phikar nahi ... khana kiskey ghar mei bana hua hai ... kisi ko matlab nahi ...pakwaan banney hai tou padooos mei share jarur honge ... kya hota hai yeah sab ajjj .... shayad nahi ... agar hai pata aise aek bhi mohalley ka tou bata do ... wohi ja kar mei shayad rehena pasand karunga ...

......................... kai baaar bahut miss hotta hai yeah sab ... thankfull i have my child hoood friends with whom i am still in constant touch ... aur aisi hi aek shammm ko isss sher ka janam hua tha ... sweet memories ...
dnt scratch more nostalgia sandesh...u remember how the south west delhi was 10 yrs back...all keekar ridges on both sides of roads, those chains of aravali hill in south parallel to faridabad...

we used to go for drives in early foggy winters to the shooting range area near tuglakabad forts...the one which people saw in lakshay's song "agar main kahu mujhe...".

now peacoks have also found some other place.

and who can forget those broad roads and those doob bushes on sides of raods near IGI, mahipalpur, pahadi bushes in rangi pahadi, nemsarai...sab chal gaya, sab ki zameen bik gayi...

south weat delhi is so heavenly... and u remember how the delhi side women are...too sweet to talk to...abhi kabhi kisi sarai...nemsarai, ladosarai, besarai...main jao to hassa hassa kar admi ke pet main dard kar deti hai. different style...now u dnt find farms bt farm houses...

but there is till some charm left in south west of jats...i just loveeeeeeee this city...its so fulfilling and loving...land of softer jats...the way the speak...hmmm...rustic yet modern ...rustic when home and modern when out...so recptive...n thats wat i love in this side people...they are receptive to everthing. ab bhi wo dhoodh wala rooafjha yaad aata hai jo balti bhar kar banta tha summers main dophar ko...chitter chatter. i just love this city like anything...

no comparision of its majesty...

u drive on shooting range when u come back in late evenings or early mornings... or go to mahipalpur, bharthal, bijwasan or dhulsiras side, u will still get to see our dil wali dilli.

trueblueindian
October 26th, 2007, 01:12 PM
dnt scratch more nostalgia sandesh...u remember how the south west delhi was 10 yrs back...all keekar ridges on both sides of roads, those chains of aravali hill in south parallel to faridabad...

we used to go for drives in early foggy winters to the shooting range area near tuglakabad forts...the one which people saw in lakshay's song "agar main kahu mujhe...".

now peacoks have also found some other place.

and who can forget those broad roads and those doob bushes on sides of raods near IGI, mahipalpur, pahadi bushes in rangi pahadi, nemsarai...sab chal gaya, sab ki zameen bik gayi...

south weat delhi is so heavenly... and u remember how the delhi side women are...too sweet to talk to...abhi kabhi kisi sarai...nemsarai, ladosarai, besarai...main jao to hassa hassa kar admi ke pet main dard kar deti hai. different style...now u dnt find farms bt farm houses...

but there is till some charm left in south west of jats...i just loveeeeeeee this city...its so fulfilling and loving...land of softer jats...the way the speak...hmmm...rustic yet modern ...rustic when home and modern when out...so recptive...n thats wat i love in this side people...they are receptive to everthing. ab bhi wo dhoodh wala rooafjha yaad aata hai jo balti bhar kar banta tha summers main dophar ko...chitter chatter. i just love this city like anything...

no comparision of its majesty...

u drive on shooting range when u come back in late evenings or early mornings... or go to mahipalpur, bharthal, bijwasan or dhulsiras side, u will still get to see our dil wali dilli.


key key yaad duwave si dost .... inidently i have also been fortunate enough to experience this kindda nostalagia and that too at thesee places only ... !! woh mahipalpur ki peeroo mei jaaana ... subah - 2 ... dar bhi lagta tha ... wohi khalli grounds mei cricket khelna ... khoob maza aata tha ... 2 mahine ki chuttiya inhi majestic places mei beet-ti thi semmma apni ... aur haaan woh shooting range aalli road to aaj bhi mast hai .....

hahhahahhaa i acknowlidge the special talent of these gifted sense of humar of Sarai alli's

unlimted supply of roohafza raat nae .... arrr balti bhar key nimbu paaani do-peher mei .... bhai naaas ho gaya .. hum tae gud ki pattti bhi banaya kartey .... gud maaangtey handdya kartey ... hahahhaha arrr woh diwali key tammme MOM ikathha karkey diye banana ... i doubt if the toddlers nw a days are going to experience of these kinddda notalagia .....

ssindhu
October 26th, 2007, 03:05 PM
bas sandesh ibb na yaad kare, heart rends like hell...