National Interest

[navingulia]

National interest

The civilian nuclear deal was something which any country would die for.
Pakistan begged for it but was not granted.

CPM which choses to lick the feet of chinese (who backstabbed us in 1962) has successfully sabotaged the deal.

And the whole nation is mute spectator.

After all who is bothered about national interest or national pride or national shame. We are more bothered about the extra bucks we can earn today.

We think we do enough patriotism by jumping madly in a cricket stadium. That is the best we can do. Shame on us.

The tragedy of this country is that the educated chose to be quiet.

[yatinder19]

Chinese writings interpreted the nuclear deal as a realisation of India's 'great power dreams', as the key to unlocking the door to India's entry into the big league of world politics.....This our communist will never like...
The death of the deal "would confirm the widely-held belief in China's national security establishment that despite its recent economic strides, India remains a 'weak state characterised by abject poverty, and religious, political and regional faultlines' that is no match for China.

[rsdalal]

Navin Bhai,
Sahi kaha aapne.
It is a win -win situation for both India and US.
Hopefully people in India would not forget this by the election time....

On a side note. Juliani, Ex NY mayor, who is running for President elctions has recomened to expand NATO to include India, Singapore and Australia.

National interest

The civilian nuclear deal was something which any country would die for.
Pakistan begged for it but was not granted.

CPM which choses to lick the feet of chinese (who backstabbed us in 1962) has successfully sabotaged the deal.

And the whole nation is mute spectator.

After all who is bothered about national interest or national pride or national shame. We are more bothered about the extra bucks we can earn today.

We think we do enough patriotism by jumping madly in a cricket stadium. That is the best we can do. Shame on us.

The tragedy of this country is that the educated chose to be quiet.

[devdahiya]

Dear members,it is all drama going on.....as i said earlier also INDIA can ill afford to commit suicide on this issue....Deal is on and it will be signed 100%.These politicians[both sides] are playing games.I am sure of this.

[ssindhu]

I am also of mind that manmohan will sign the deal at any cost eventually. all this ruckus is probably created to avert people's attention from other failures of the govt. like inflation and quota.

[navingulia]

wish it is so
because the PM is horribly outnumbered.
For others the personal, political benefit supercedes the national interest by a million times.
the left is a chinese puppet.

[ssindhu]

wish it is so
because the PM is horribly outnumbered.
For others the personal, political benefit supercedes the national interest by a million times.
the left is a chinese puppet.
yesterday manmohan was in other mood as one can make out from the news on air. the deal will be signed. but the surd's statement to bush on hassle in it is a big shame in anycase and of course a big damage to the country's leadership that such big people also retract words. bloody bastards.

[ssindhu]

er tanne yo kunsi mime ka fotu la liya navin

[itsnavin]

If allowed, Left parties would drag the country to stone age. Problem with these major decisions are that it could be done if the ruling party is in full majority. It rarely happens in India. Here this time, though a rare event, Congress high command has taken a good decision to go by this N-Deal but these coaltion parties won't allow it. I hope the next election would bring a full majority ruling party.

Waise bhee yeh left walon ko Bengal se bahar nahin nikalney dena chahiye. Usko hee narak bananey do...desh ko nahin!

[rkumar]

Lots of debates have been going on at all sorts of places on this subject. If our aim is to have just another debate, I feel its waste of time. Those of us who feel for the nation, let us gather at India gate with playcards in support of the deal. I am 10% sure our movemn et will gather momentum till its non political. Let Navin lead all those who wish to join. I am for action and not just empty debates..

RK^2

[navingulia]

RK sir, I wouldnot mind sitting on a hunger strike too. Let us do it. I am in. When do we start?

When the whole country feels otherwise then how can we allow left to sabotage the deal.

Why is the BJP not supporting the deal? All parties who feel national interest comes first should support the deal accross party lines.

my number is 9810245996, let us go and do it.

[rkumar]

RK sir, I wouldnot mind sitting on a hunger strike too. Let us do it. I am in. When do we start?

When the whole country feels otherwise then how can we allow left to sabotage the deal.

Why is the BJP not supporting the deal? All parties who feel national interest comes first should support the deal accross party lines.

my number is 9810245996, let us go and do it.

I suggest following;

1. Let us get stickers on our cars supporting nuclear deal. WE stick the same on as many cars as we can.

2. Let us gather in small groups at some strategic locations around parliament.

We might have to do it almost on daily basis till our movement gathers steam and common man joins us. Let us begin in a small way from tomorrow itself. All we need are just 10 pepple standing in line, let us say along a small segment of parliament street with banners in our hand. Think of a suitable banner ..

Time has come when we have to create pressure groups if we want some action. Let there be issue based pressure groups.

RK^2

[navingulia]

one slogan

"I support nuclear deal,
I support INDIA"

[itsnavin]

one slogan

"I support nuclear deal,
I support INDIA"

Why not create an online petition?

[yatinder19]

Navin bhaai ram ram

i also support the deal...

[rkumar]

one slogan

"I support nuclear deal,
I support INDIA"


I appeal to all members to please stick above slogan on their car and where ever they can. Let us reach as many people as we can. Try to come with innovative slogans which catch public eyes...

RK^2

[trueblueindian]

I appeal to all members to please stick above slogan on their car and where ever they can. Let us reach as many people as we can. Try to come with innovative slogans which catch public eyes...

RK^2

this sounds appealing and workable option ... sir stickers in flex / vinyl could be printed ... costing around 1000 rs.for 100 -200 stickers .. of around 5 x7 size ... where that has to be seen ???

[navingulia]

making and distributing stickers from one place would be difficult to coordinate. I suggest that we rite the slogan on a white sheet and stick it at the rear wind shield of car.

[ssindhu]

plz go ahead. it reminds me of RDB, too much inspired by that movie, my anthem. i am with you. though i can't join you in any sitting or protest due to the oaths we media fellows have to sign to not to indulge overtly. but i assure i will give your moemtum all due coverage. ha ha

[itsnavin]

making and distributing stickers from one place would be difficult to coordinate. I suggest that we rite the slogan on a white sheet and stick it at the rear wind shield of car.

Sasta..sundar...tikaoo kaam hai. And moreover it would look more authentic.

[shashiverma]

All the very best...
Yes it ofcourse reminds abt RDB...I am sure this will defintely make difference...
I am glad to be part of it. I was a bit reluctant to write as it would sound more like people who only speak sitting far away and do not bother to come forward and do things.
Bestwishes.

[rkumar]

I have already put the slogan on my car. Also quite a few of my friends have put it on their cars. I am very hopeful that the fever will catch up on larger scale soon..

Please print as many sheets as one can with their personal printer and distribute among neighbours and friends.

RK^2

[priti]

I support Nuclear. I think India should be a Responsible Nuclear Nation and should have the means to Secure its future energy needs.

Opinion without knowledge/arguments to support it can work against you. I urge everyone to build up their knowledge of this deal...you can start here:

http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21815&highlight=nuclear

where we discussed it to some small extent...

[navingulia]

Priti,
We and most of the aware citizens support the pm on this deal.
India is not the puppet or junior partner of US and this deal wont make us one.
Left is sabotaging the deal bcoz they are pro chinese and chinese puppets.
China who can slaughter a million of their own people in tiananmen for demanding democracy, can take a strong military action against india at any time to try and occupy the areas it still claims. They wouldnt want a stronger india or india to have stronger allies.
The only reason the deal is not working out is the chinese pressure on left. And that according to me is a shame.

[desijat]

Hi

I am a game for this. brilliant idea RK Uncle... If we all can collect money get some stickers printed and may be decide a day in near future gather at one place(may be India Gate) and distribute them.

Am sure people will buy this hands on..... :)

[raj2rif]

Dear Members,

I think the deal will go through since it is in the interests of both the countries. India is going to be a long term partner with US in affairs concerning Asia.

To the best of my knowlede, Congress party would go for mid-term pool should it be required to get this deal through. The only problem is that it will be another expenditure on the national exchequer, all kind courtsey our Communist leaders.

As true citizens we need to educate the voters about this deal, the Communist's objections and how it affects the national interests to teach them a lesson during next elections. Let us not put them in a place where they can play with the national interests.

[anrtish]

National interest

The civilian nuclear deal was something which any country would die for.
Pakistan begged for it but was not granted.

CPM which choses to lick the feet of chinese (who backstabbed us in 1962) has successfully sabotaged the deal.

And the whole nation is mute spectator.

After all who is bothered about national interest or national pride or national shame. We are more bothered about the extra bucks we can earn today.

We think we do enough patriotism by jumping madly in a cricket stadium. That is the best we can do. Shame on us.

The tragedy of this country is that the educated chose to be quiet.

very well said

[trueblueindian]

Hi

I am a game for this. brilliant idea RK Uncle... If we all can collect money get some stickers printed and may be decide a day in near future gather at one place(may be India Gate) and distribute them.

Am sure people will buy this hands on..... :)

vickz for now RKji's videa ia gud enough .......... i belive and hope that ppl syick something usefull on their front and rear windscreens ............

RKsir, plz lets give birth to some meaning fulll slogan ...

my take


I SUPPORT NUKE DEAL ...... DO YOU .................. ?? ?

IF YES.. SPORT IT.. OR ELSE BE prepared to be callled A LOOSER . and thus REGRET LATER




I WOULD REQUEST NON PARTICIPETATING PPL TO LAY OFFF WITH THEIR USELESS SUGGESTIONS .......... AND FOR THOSE WHO R WITH THE NOTION,,,,, PLZ CONTRIBUTE ... I WISH TO HAVE A srircking and hurting / effective SLOGAN BY TOMM. EVE ....


LUKIN FORWARD ....

RK SIR,,,, I TRULY RESPECT UR PRACTICAL APROACH

[navingulia]

friends, we can send emails to
mytimesmyvoice@timesgroup.com

i have no puppy love for US. i support the deal bcoz its beneficial to our country. we cannot have a more educated pm to decide this.

If we put the banners(like rk sir i too have) then others will follow the example. maybe our voice will be heard.

Why not meet at india gate day after tomorrow? Being Sunday lot of people will be coming there.

Yes, Tevathia sir, the left should be thrown out of the political scene for being traitors.

[sunitahooda]

Few years back i had a T-shirt written-

NO NUKES
NO TEARS

How about this as a Slogan Navin?

[mukeshkumar007]

yes I support the nuclear deal..coz I support '' INDIA'

[desijat]

Why not meet at india gate day after tomorrow? Being Sunday lot of people will be coming there.

.

If we can fix the date then we can send E mailers from social messaging sites like Orkut.... please get the consent and decide on a time... i shall also inform my friends in Media

[desijat]

Navin Bhai's quote is best so far.. :)

[raj_rathee]

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Indian-Americans_to_urge_BJP_Left_to_accept_deal/articleshow/2491952.cms

[sidchhikara]

You could use this on a placard when you rally at India gate if you want... most of these are satirical....

Communist's - know your role
Chinese mat bol.

BJP - Please don't confuse Nuclear-Deal with Valentine's Day.

This banner could face traffic passing by asking ppl for support...

If you support the Nuclear Deal........DON'T honk.

Ok the previous one might confuse a lot of ppl............ but they might take it literally and you may not hear any car horns in that area !!!

I need some Uranium in my life !!

My Poverty Reduction Plan is as simple as 123...Support the Nuclear Deal.

Will come up with more....... later

[desijat]

You could use this on a placard when you rally at India gate if you want... most of these are satirical....

Communist's - know your role
Chinese mat bol.

BJP - Please don't confuse Nuclear-Deal with Valentine's Day.

This banner could face traffic passing by asking ppl for support...

If you support the Nuclear Deal........DON'T honk.

Ok the previous one might confuse a lot of ppl............ but they might take it literally and you may not hear any car horns in that area !!!

I need some Uranium in my life !!

My Poverty Reduction Plan is as simple as 123...Support the Nuclear Deal.

Will come up with more....... later

Brilliant ones SID!!!!!!!!!!

[navingulia]

Sunita, we arenot supporting nuclear bombs here(nuke is word used for nuclear bomb). we are supporting nuclear energy for our country which is a future source of energy for our country. So, join the gang.
Though china and pak maybe having plans for nuking us, we dont have any such plans.

Everybody
Let us make the meeting at india gate 10.30am sunday

[ssindhu]

some from me:

BJP: Don't oppose just because you are in opposition.

Karat: Left is left because you are never right

Be clear on nuclear deal, it's not all US meal

and to popularise:

123 deal rocks as much as dhoni

and we can show some toon: Jiabao balling to dhoni and dhoni swinging it out of boundry

[cooljat]

Too gud Sid Bhai!! ;);)

I like ur signature style of expressing ur views in lil witty sarcastic way! :cool:

I do support Nuclear Deal n gonna write this on my car as well!! :):)

Ein Left aur BJP aalo ko to chaand pe chhod dena chaaiye Missile pe betha ke!! :mad:


Rock on
Jit



You could use this on a placard when you rally at India gate if you want... most of these are satirical....

Communist's - know your role
Chinese mat bol.

BJP - Please don't confuse Nuclear-Deal with Valentine's Day.

This banner could face traffic passing by asking ppl for support...

If you support the Nuclear Deal........DON'T honk.

Ok the previous one might confuse a lot of ppl............ but they might take it literally and you may not hear any car horns in that area !!!

I need some Uranium in my life !!

My Poverty Reduction Plan is as simple as 123...Support the Nuclear Deal.

Will come up with more....... later

[desijat]

Navin Bhai i shall be there.

For all, please distribute SMS chains and Orkut messages, those who have groups on Orkut please make a seprate thread.

[ssindhu]

Uranium is the future and Left is the butcher

[navingulia]

Friends, the hutch/vodafone marathon is on sunday. though at a different venue, the route passes by india gate
should we postpone it to evening 4.30pm. or same timme next sunday?

[desijat]

Friends, the hutch/vodafone marathon is on sunday. though at a different venue, the route passes by india gate
should we postpone it to evening 4.30pm. or same timme next sunday?

Makes sense... Let us look at next week, the Sunday on 3rd of November as it will give us time to prepare and inform people

[navingulia]

yes, sunday 4th november 10.30am

[desijat]

yes, sunday 4th november 10.30am

Sunday 4th November - 12:00 confirmed


Would request everyone to forward the mail to all their friends:
__________________________________________________ _______________
The civilian nuclear deal was something which any country would die for.
Pakistan begged for it but was not granted.

CPM which choses to lick the feet of chinese (who backstabbed us in 1962) has successfully sabotaged the deal.

And the whole nation is mute spectator.

After all who is bothered about national interest or national pride or national shame. We are more bothered about the extra bucks we can earn today.

We think we do enough patriotism by jumping madly in a cricket stadium. That is the best we can do. Shame on us.

The tragedy of this country is that the educated chose to be quiet.


People are gathering at India Gate on November 4th, 2007 at 12:00 AM to create awareness and support the Nuke Deal...

Please come and pass on the message ahead to others too...

Please pass on the message to others :-)

[skarmveer]

Please put some positive and nagative points of this deal to satisfy the people to support this deal.


Sunday 4th November - 12:00 confirmed


Would request everyone to forward the mail to all their friends:
__________________________________________________ _______________
The civilian nuclear deal was something which any country would die for.
Pakistan begged for it but was not granted.

CPM which choses to lick the feet of chinese (who backstabbed us in 1962) has successfully sabotaged the deal.

And the whole nation is mute spectator.

After all who is bothered about national interest or national pride or national shame. We are more bothered about the extra bucks we can earn today.

We think we do enough patriotism by jumping madly in a cricket stadium. That is the best we can do. Shame on us.

The tragedy of this country is that the educated chose to be quiet.


People are gathering at India Gate on November 4th, 2007 at 12:00 AM to create awareness and support the Nuke Deal...

Please come and pass on the message ahead to others too...

Please pass on the message to others :-)

[navingulia]

Karamveer sir
priti had started a thread in which this discussion had taken place. The link given below

http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21815&highlight=nuclear

[skarmveer]

Thanks Brother.
Karamveer sir
priti had started a thread in which this discussion had taken place. The link given below

http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21815&highlight=nuclear

[rkumar]

On 4th November I am out of Delhi to attend a conference. However, I am going around actively to involve as many people as possible. We need to work overtime to build momentum. Let us try to be visible at the earliest.

RK^2

[sidchhikara]

All of you are doing a commendable job. Hope this gets some airtime.

[desijat]

Cons(arguments against)


The deal is likely to abet the nuclear weapon capabilities of India. For, if civil and military facilities are separated, the supply of international nuclear fuel will free its existing facilities, designated as military facilities, to produce plutonium and enriched plutonium exclusively for weapons’ purpose.
The deal might provoke other nuclear weapon states like China to enter into the same kind of agreement with other implicit nuclear nations like Pakistan. In fact, Pakistan President Musharraf, during his recent visit to China, has argued for a Pakistan-China nuclear deal along the same lines.
India has still not signed the NPT treaty. But it will enjoy all the privileges available to declared nuclear powers under the NPT regime. In the eyes of American non-proliferation lobby the nuclear deal is an American sellout to India.

Arguments against the deal in India have centred around three main points. First and foremost, the proposed separation of nuclear facilities into civil and military is costly and difficult or rather impractical due to the Indian nuclear programme being unified since the very beginning. Secondly, the deal will impact India’s ability to produce requisite fissile material as all new nuclear facilities will be civilian in nature and under the supervision of IAEA. Third, nuclear power is costly in nature and an emerging county like India can ill afford it. It is a luxury that only the developed world can enjoy and India should not count on it in its energy security calculus. Last but not the least, the deal is asymmetrical in nature since it is all about American promises and Indian commitments.
Finally, the deal does not remove the discriminatory nature of the present nuclear regime which India has been fighting all along. Why should India place all its “existing and future civilian nuclear facilities under IAEA supervision” when other nuclear powers are not compelled to do so? In terms of statistics, out of the 915 facilities under IAEA safeguards worldwide, only 11 are in the five NPT nuclear powers. Thus, India will continue to be a part of the discriminatory non-proliferation regime.

Pros(arguments for)


First, to answer the proliferation charge, the present deal is a win-win situation for the non-proliferation regime since it brings India into the nuclear mainstream. All the past policies to bring India into NPT regime had failed. Then why not give the deal a chance? India, despite being a declared nuclear power, has an impeccable non-proliferation record that needs to be trusted and rewarded rather than questioned and punished. As India’s Foreign Secretary Shyam Saran said, “If India’s past record and current policies are not recognised, and worse still, if it is to be graded with those whose record in this respect is more than suspect, then our nonproliferation objectives may enjoy the comfort of noble intentions but not the efficacy of tactical action.”
Second, India is a fast growing economy that is looking for all the energy resources that it can get hold of, howsoever costly they may be. True, the nuclear establishment has failed to meet its commitment of producing 2,700 megawatts of electricity from nuclear plants by 1980-81. It is roughly producing the same committed amount about thirty-five years later that constitutes three percent of India’s energy supply. The denial of nuclear fuel due to provisions of the NPT regime has been precisely the reason behind the Indian nuclear establishment’s dismal performance. History has given us the chance and we must seize it. If international nuclear fuel is available, the cost of producing electricity will also come down and will be within the affordable range.
Third, there is nothing in the deal that asks India not to pursue its three-phase nuclear power programme. In fact, it further adds to the process. India can continue to pursue its fast-breeder reactor programme independently.

Fourth, India will get access to all the facilities and technologies available to declared nuclear powers in the NPT regime without signing the treaty.
Fifth, India has not given any commitment to sign the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, which even US and China have signed, though both are yet to ratify it. The only commitment that India has given is that of negotiating a Fissile Material Cut-off Treaty with the US.
Sixth, India is not under any obligation to not produce fissile material and can continue to do so as long as it needs, to meet its declared policy of developing credible minimum nuclear deterrence.
Seventh, there is no provision in the deal that asks India to place its indigenously developed nuclear reactors under IAEA supervision. The deal is applicable only in the case of existing and future nuclear reactors that will be using international nuclear fuel. Technically, India can build up as many indigenous nuclear reactors as it wants for its security purposes.
Finally, to quote the Indian Prime Minister, “It will be an autonomous Indian decision as to what is ‘civilian’ and what is ‘military’. Nobody outside will tell us what is ‘civilian’ and what is ‘military’.” We have no reason to distrust the words of our Prime Minister


Source - http://skbwriter.blogspot.com/2007/10/nuclear-dealpros-and-cons.html

[desijat]

All of you are doing a commendable job. Hope this gets some airtime.

i will put across a word among all my friends in media.. quite sure they will cover it

[sidchhikara]

i will put across a word among all my friends in media.. quite sure they will cover it

more power to you.

[dskadyan]

I just want to know "is it Sure we need deal"? If we need then why PM and its team didnt take all its ally party in confidence before announcement and giving word to American's? what i am getting here is Congress is getting this deal to proove themselves Good. And i dont think we need any surveilance to even our Civil facilities.do you want it?

If US wants deal then its OK we can say we will not use thier fuel to make missile. If they think we will keep our words then ok othrewise HELL WITH THE US AND HELL WITH CONGRESS.OUR SCIENTIST WILL GET THIER RESOURCE AND MAKE A WAY. TODAY WE WILL DEPEND ON THEIR FUEL SOURCE TOMORROW U.S.A WILL CONTROL OUR POWER HOUSE. WE CAN BUY A NUCLEAR FUEL. IF U.S.A WANT TO SELL OK OTHER WISE NO DEAL.

And I dont say ABORT the deal but do ANY OF YOU HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF DEAL'S CLAUSE AND IMPACT. SO FIRST CHECK IT THEN SAY "WE SUPPORT THE DEAL". and do you think which PM and party didnt tell anything about the deal to their ally they told us truth!!!!!. WAKE UP BOYS.

[desijat]

I just want to know "is it Sure we need deal"? If we need then why PM and its team didnt take all its ally party in confidence before announcement and giving word to American's? what i am getting here is Congress is getting this deal to proove themselves Good. And i dont think we need any surveilance to even our Civil facilities.do you want it?

If US wants deal then its OK we can say we will not use thier fuel to make missile. If they think we will keep our words then ok othrewise HELL WITH THE US AND HELL WITH CONGRESS.OUR SCIENTIST WILL GET THIER RESOURCE AND MAKE A WAY. TODAY WE WILL DEPEND ON THEIR FUEL SOURCE TOMORROW U.S.A WILL CONTROL OUR POWER HOUSE. WE CAN BUY A NUCLEAR FUEL. IF U.S.A WANT TO SELL OK OTHER WISE NO DEAL.

And I dont say ABORT the deal but do ANY OF YOU HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF DEAL'S CLAUSE AND IMPACT. SO FIRST CHECK IT THEN SAY "WE SUPPORT THE DEAL". and do you think which PM and party didnt tell anything about the deal to their ally they told us truth!!!!!. WAKE UP BOYS.

I think post the pros and cons mentioned above all of know what does this deal mean to India and we all have already woken up:)

[yatinder19]

I just want to know "is it Sure we need deal"? If we need then why PM and its team didnt take all its ally party in confidence before announcement and giving word to American's? what i am getting here is Congress is getting this deal to proove themselves Good. And i dont think we need any surveilance to even our Civil facilities.do you want it?

If US wants deal then its OK we can say we will not use thier fuel to make missile. If they think we will keep our words then ok othrewise HELL WITH THE US AND HELL WITH CONGRESS.OUR SCIENTIST WILL GET THIER RESOURCE AND MAKE A WAY. TODAY WE WILL DEPEND ON THEIR FUEL SOURCE TOMORROW U.S.A WILL CONTROL OUR POWER HOUSE. WE CAN BUY A NUCLEAR FUEL. IF U.S.A WANT TO SELL OK OTHER WISE NO DEAL.

And I dont say ABORT the deal but do ANY OF YOU HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF DEAL'S CLAUSE AND IMPACT. SO FIRST CHECK IT THEN SAY "WE SUPPORT THE DEAL". and do you think which PM and party didnt tell anything about the deal to their ally they told us truth!!!!!. WAKE UP BOYS.

Kadyan saab
you have valid reasons...But I suspect capability of our government and our scientist,they havent done anything on time(I mean on mostly occasion)...
DRDO has turned in to white elephant.....
Enegy need is immediate,We cant wait for our scientist to take so many years and they will spnd so much...
"To go hell with US" will never help....If we are geting profit from deal than wats the problem...

[dskadyan]

I think post the pros and cons mentioned above all of know what does this deal mean to India and we all have already woken up:)
Good to hear all are awake.
But Issue remains why congress and PM are not able to come to a conclusion with their allies. Is'nt it strange that they are not able to get confidence from a single other party and they were not also taking it much seriously earlier.
And believe me this is all because of PM and congress keeping it at low profile till there is not objection from other parties. They want to keep all credit of this to themselves. now this things got back fired them and its not going work now. Inefficient congress know the fate of mid term poll and they wont take any risk iwth it right now.

So keep your vote ready to choose a power hungary congress or dangerous CPI kind party.

And no need to go on hunger strike Navin as we have to suffer if these kind of political people will rule us . Now we have to fight with our own people.

[dskadyan]

Kadyan saab
you have valid reasons...But I suspect capability of our government and our scientist,they havent done anything on time(I mean on mostly occasion)...
DRDO has turned in to white elephant.....
Enegy need is immediate,We cant wait for our scientist to take so many years and they will spnd so much...
"To go hell with US" will never help....If we are geting profit from deal than wats the problem...
You are right yatinder that our scintist are not good but believe me they will not even be traceable after dependence on US. They suck like hell.

What will they do if we Gonna be super power. They will supply us fuel ? no way. we are going toward be a super power and we have to be our won master and dont depend on other atleast not have their Supervision.
If they want to sell something buy it.
if they want to make a collaboration then work together.
but why they will sit in our facility to check we are doing ok with their resource.

and they are making us dependent on them.I think this nuclear fuel can be open market only problem is with USA and some developed nation that they dont want it to be.

They know its going that nuclear power usage will increase in all countries so it want their supervision in all these power stations. so that USA will not have any threat to them but all other have fear to them.

may be i am wrong but its look like this!!!

[navingulia]

a doubt can destroy a resolution in a second

that is how we destroy our patriotism too by doubts like "kya rakkha hai deshbhakti mein? kuchh nahin hai, sab matlabi hain"

america se deal mat karo, pakistan ka kuchh mat karo, bangladesh waale aapke sipaahiyon ko maar dete hain (aur aap gahan vishleshan me lag jaate hain), china apko jab man karta hai dhamka deta hai, aur to aur sri lanka bhi kah deta hai ke hum india ke tukde kar denge.

india aaj india hai japan, germany, chin ya america nahin ban saka kyunki ghutne kamjor hain, na faisla le paate hain aur na uspe tik paate hain.

mere man me aksar aata hai ke is desh ko dynamic kaise banaaun. yahaan ek aadmi kuchh karna chaahta hai to 10 log sawaal uthaa dete hain.

mere jeevan ki yahi seekh hai ke sahi faisle lene se jyada jaruuri hota hai sincerity se faisla lena.

yadi aap sahi galat ka hi tark karne lagenge to pura jeevan bhi kam pad jaayega.

pragatisheel hone ka niyam hai ke jo kuchh achha kiya ja raha hai agar us se aap kuchh aur achha kar sakte hain to keejiye. otherwise hoti hui cheez kki taang mat kheenchiye.

[navingulia]

apna to pata nahin per haan cheen aur pakistan jaruur khush hoenge agar ye deal nahin workout hui to.

[mukeshkumar007]

apna to pata nahin per haan cheen aur pakistan jaruur khush hoenge agar ye deal nahin workout hui to.

very true.. jab se deal huwi tab se unke kaan khade ho rehe hai... aur apane left bhaishaab bi achi sawamibhakti nibha rehe hai china ke liye ...

[desijat]

BJP softening stand on nuke deal - http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20070031032&ch=10/28/2007%209:17:00%20PM

It is a question that the BJP leadership, in particular, must ponder over. It is the party that made India a nuclear weapon power and made Indians, both here and abroad, proud. Now a concerted attempt is being made to bail out a beleaguered Manmohan Singh by playing on the BJP’s deep-rooted anti-Left sentiments.

Commenting on the deal Burns said: “Twenty or 30 years from now, many Americans would say India is one of the two or three most important global partners — the way Japan and the European Union are today.”

Read it carefully, from India’s security perspective. After World War II, the US imposed a pacifist constitution on Japan that prevented it from having a standing army of its own, leave alone its own nuclear weapons. As far as Europe is concerned, NATO is a US-led security alliance and there is no doubt about who will call the shots in a time of crisis. So, should India become America’s junior partner in its global security architecture tomorrow, as Japan and EU are today?

For more - http://www.indianexpress.com/sunday/story/233189.html

[desijat]

Seems like the topic has frozen... are we going? Can people confirm their presence and also what all do we need to bring in.