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shashiverma
November 2nd, 2007, 04:48 PM
Sometimes I used to wonder why people run after money.....is it the source of all the pain and sorrow...or is it the token of joy and happiness...

Today while going through my photo album I could recollect how some wise people teach you the value and meaning of money....
I was a kid and always used to get excited when elders used to give me money as we all have the tradition of giving money or gifts when we depart. But my nana never used to give money. As a child even I was observing this for many years. Whenever we used to pack our baggages my nani would come to me and ask me whether he give money to me or not. Being a bit sensible I will just pass a smile to her without anyother answer....simply saying that it does not matter. Some of them would say he is very cunning. Although he is rich but he do not give money to kids. But one day after many years when I was sitting with my dad with our packed luggage, he came to me and gave me a 5 Rs note and 10 Rs to my Dad.
I was very happy. Because in those days i can think of buying so many things with that 5 Rs. But my excitement had a very short life. My Dad said do not spend that note now. Probably he could see the confusion in my eyes. He gave me his 10 Rs note and asked me to keep in my photo album. He being my role model ...... I decided to keep my 5 Rs note as well in my photo album. Without understanding much I used to simply enjoy looking at my money.
Today when I turned back my photo album I realised what that 5 Rs note meant.
I recollected the whole story of the past and re-analysed the whole episode. Probably today I understand what was the message in that story.
People said he was a cunning man but when I look back I would say he was a very wise men. The person who started life from scratch in true sense know the value of his efforts. He earned that money with all his hard efforts and he knew the value of each penny he had.
He probably would like to exchange his money for something which could give him the same value which he had spent in earning that money. And that was perhaps the reason he never gave us money. It was only once when probably he felt that the kid can compliment his efforts....he gave that note. And probably today I think I understand why he gave 10 Rs to my Dad. That was perhaps the compliment to his sincerity in making the kid capable to earn that 5 Rs note.
That was probably the first earning i had in my life. And may be Dad knew that someday I will learn the meaning of it and would be able to appreciate that prize he asked me to preserve it in my photo album.
There are very few who really understand the value of money. But sooner we learn..... the better it is. Otherwise we keep wasting our efforts. We all put so much effort to earn that money. But when it comes to spending it we do not evaluate the things we exchange for our efforts. Does the things we buy with the money holds the same value as our efforts which went into earning that money.
The way we spend money simply shows the way we have earned that money. The people who do not earn sincerly...they obviously do not spend it in the right way.....they do not have any value in that money.
But people who really does....they know it well where to invest and for what to exchange.

ravileo
November 2nd, 2007, 05:25 PM
You are right Shashji de really dont know the value of money.

Your say touched mine heart.

shwetadhaka
November 2nd, 2007, 08:41 PM
Couldnt read the whole post due to time constraint, but I agree completely that how much money one has is subject to many a factors, some controllable and some beyond one's control, but its of utmost important how we spend our money, and this requires a sense, which ultimately results into money's true value. Money is a two edged sword for that matter, it can make or mar, and this is solely attributable to the fact how we spend it !

sidchhikara
November 2nd, 2007, 09:42 PM
If I were you, I would have spent that Rs 5 note - you could've gotten more stuff back then as compared to what you can get now.

shashiverma
November 2nd, 2007, 10:58 PM
Do you really think so... I doubt Sidh... Probably its just abt replying ..hmm.... :-)...... Or may be I do not undestand what is the hidden message in that.... Kher whatever...
Well what value I have today of that note is far more than I could have got on that day. That day probably it would not have meant more than just 5 Rs. but today I think I understand the actual value of money....and probably that has given meaning to what I earn.... so it has more value today...
Material things could not have done justice to that...

sidchhikara
November 3rd, 2007, 01:57 AM
Do you really think so... I doubt Sidh... Probably its just abt replying ..hmm.... :-)...... Or may be I do not undestand what is the hidden message in that.... Kher whatever...

Shashi, no hidden messgae there - I was talking about inflation.

shashiverma
November 3rd, 2007, 08:27 PM
Inflation ..... :-) .....Ok...if that was it....Then I would say its just a matter of choice.
We all are free to make our own choices. For me spending at that time would have been an expensive deal. I got the best interest rate, I can think of, out of the deposit I made long back.

devdahiya
November 3rd, 2007, 09:30 PM
Money is important as it buys things and comfort.Basically we all seek comfort,Power and luxury and most of these have a close association with Money.But it can't buy certain things which are so important to our existence.For example Money can not buy love.So be judicious with money but don't make it your master else you will land in hell.

cooljat
November 4th, 2007, 09:46 AM
Well, Shashi Value of that 5 Rupee note certainly do vary for diffrent persons according to their repsective point of views! :)

From A Economist point of view that 5 Rs note certainly lost its vaule in term of buying capacity while if you take it as emotional attachment its pricelss :) & from an antique item collector it may be worthy enough...so u can see diffrent perception diffrent views!!

According to me the value of money lies in the effort n hard work u give in to earn that i.e. Hard Money!! :)

nyways, nice thoughts!! ... keep sharing' :)

PS - They Say Money cant buy Happiness...but u can certainly hire that for sometimes with it!! ;) :rolleyes:

Rock on
Jit

devdahiya
November 4th, 2007, 10:50 AM
Well, Shashi Value of that 5 Rupee note certainly do vary for diffrent persons according to their repsective point of views! :)

From A Economist point of view that 5 Rs note certainly lost its vaule in term of buying capacity while if you take it as emotional attachment its pricelss :) & from an antique item collector it may be worthy enough...so u can see diffrent perception diffrent views!!

According to me the value of money lies in the effort n hard work u give in to earn that i.e. Hard Money!! :)

nyways, nice thoughts!! ... keep sharing' :)

PS - They Say Money cant buy Happiness...but u can certainly hire that for sometimes with it!! ;) :rolleyes:

Rock on
Jit




Happiness and love cn not be hired or leased out....That is the basic principal and it is a universal truth that Money can never buy happiness!Ought to learn this as a fundamental truth!




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pscil
November 4th, 2007, 12:55 PM
The best way to find out if you are alive is to seduce and be seduced

cooljat
November 4th, 2007, 04:35 PM
KakaJi!!
Pranam!!

Dont take it serious....it was on ligther note :)

Read between the lines, I also mentioned there, u just cant buy Happiness....but but, u can hire it for sometime!! :p :p

it was all lil poistive sarcastic note....no offese to nyone!! :)


Cheers!!

Rock on
Jit

Happiness and love cn not be hired or leased out....That is the basic principal and it is a universal truth that Money can never buy happiness!Ought to learn this as a fundamental truth!




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gaganjat
November 4th, 2007, 05:36 PM
'How much fun you can get out of your money' is the value of money !

If you work like a donkey and save by not having any luxary then YOU ARE A FOOL.

Its good to live a lavish life even if you cant save much !

If you die having millions in your account but you have never used that money for fun then you are the biggest looser. A poor fellow.

If you save for your your kids (pet kaat ke:)) and your kids do the same for their kids (apna pet kaat ke:)) because you are too scared of tommorow and live in fear then you are all fools.

People who think big do big ! when you want more you try to make more !

shashiverma
November 5th, 2007, 12:53 PM
'How much fun you can get out of your money' is the value of money !

If you work like a donkey and save by not having any luxary then YOU ARE A FOOL.
Its good to live a lavish life even if you cant save much !
If you die having millions in your account but you have never used that money for fun then you are the biggest looser. A poor fellow.
If you save for your your kids (pet kaat ke:)) and your kids do the same for their kids (apna pet kaat ke:)) because you are too scared of tommorow and live in fear then you are all fools.
People who think big do big ! when you want more you try to make more !



True...putting so much effort just to have a big bank balance does not make any sense...that would be simply foolish to do so..or i would say..probably the person either do not know the value and meaning of his efforts or probably he do not find anything to compliment his efforts (which is a bit unlikely...but quite possible). But in case their is any such possibility then would it not be a better option to let it remain in bank if one can not just find anything doing justice to their efforts??..instead of letting it go wasted in terms of the worldly material comforts........ I have no clue about it.

But one need to be more judicious in defining wat you call fun.... one need to weigh it..... go ahead if it balances.

shwetadhaka
November 5th, 2007, 07:34 PM
Well, I opinie that valuing money & so called "pet kaatna" are two very different things and one need not be a miser if he or she judiciously use the money in hand, taking stock of future contingencies too. Money doesnt requires a generation to be spent, it gets away just in a blink of a second even ! But it takes a hard toil to earn it in a white manner. So, we can make merry, we can enjoy, we can fulfill our desires but just we must have an eye on future !

Baccho ke liye pet kaatna padta hai, poora na sahi jitna jaruri hai wo to kaatna hi padta hai kabhi kabhi, jaruri nahi har ek ko aisa karna pade par bhagwaan ne sab ek se nahi banaaye, kuch aaj bhi bhooke sote hai, apni marji se nahi, uski marji se !:)

gaganjat
November 6th, 2007, 03:39 PM
'Fun' ki koi definition nahi hoti ! 'Phun tai Phun ae ho sai'

kabhi kabhi bina dimag ke bhi kaam karna chayie.

People are unhappy because they think too much , they worry too much, to get that 'perfect balance'.





True...putting so much effort just to have a big bank balance does not make any sense...that would be simply foolish to do so..or i would say..probably the person either do not know the value and meaning of his efforts or probably he do not find anything to compliment his efforts (which is a bit unlikely...but quite possible). But in case their is any such possibility then would it not be a better option to let it remain in bank if one can not just find anything doing justice to their efforts??..instead of letting it go wasted in terms of the worldly material comforts........ I have no clue about it.

But one need to be more judicious in defining wat you call fun.... one need to weigh it..... go ahead if it balances.

gaganjat
November 6th, 2007, 03:40 PM
Tera tai chori 'brain wash' ho rya sai , tanne tai 'gandhi' ka rasta pakad rakya sai ! tera kimme nhi ho sakda



Well, I opinie that valuing money & so called "pet kaatna" are two very different things and one need not be a miser if he or she judiciously use the money in hand, taking stock of future contingencies too. Money doesnt requires a generation to be spent, it gets away just in a blink of a second even ! But it takes a hard toil to earn it in a white manner. So, we can make merry, we can enjoy, we can fulfill our desires but just we must have an eye on future !

Baccho ke liye pet kaatna padta hai, poora na sahi jitna jaruri hai wo to kaatna hi padta hai kabhi kabhi, jaruri nahi har ek ko aisa karna pade par bhagwaan ne sab ek se nahi banaaye, kuch aaj bhi bhooke sote hai, apni marji se nahi, uski marji se !:)

sidchhikara
November 6th, 2007, 10:03 PM
'Fun' ki koi definition nahi hoti ! 'Phun tai Phun ae ho sai'

kabhi kabhi bina dimag ke bhi kaam karna chayie.

People are unhappy because they think too much , they worry too much, to get that 'perfect balance'.

Kati kaam ke baat kahi

shashiverma
November 7th, 2007, 09:01 AM
'Fun' ki koi definition nahi hoti ! 'Phun tai Phun ae ho sai'

kabhi kabhi bina dimag ke bhi kaam karna chayie.

People are unhappy because they think too much , they worry too much, to get that 'perfect balance'.

Agreed that fun is nothing but just the fun. Well when I said definition of fun, I did not mean anything well defined, certain and restricted in terms of words. Thats perhaps have nothing to do with words. All I meant was saying that whole day i keep saying I am happy and enjoying but if by the evening I end up saying that all the happiness was superfical and futile.....then this is not what i would call ......having fun and happiness......and thats where I was talking about being judicious.

Haan deemag ke bager chalna behtar hai.....agar aap sirf usme ulaz kar rah jaate ho. If that gives the feeling of being free......then surely let things go without caring about the logic......because its more about feeling and living and just not the definition.....

If thinking makes someone unhappy....then I just can not imagine what can make someone happy. Well I think what you say as "Phun"....its an approval from both your brain and heart which makes it sensible to you as a whole and not solely from heart....irrespective of whether one think about it or not......Its the coherence between the two which makes its more sensible.
Words sometimes do not do justice with what you want to say....so is the case here...i guess.....different eyes......different beauties...... So lets be happy with our own concepts and perceptions.

shwetadhaka
November 7th, 2007, 01:17 PM
Tera tai chori 'brain wash' ho rya sai , tanne tai 'gandhi' ka rasta pakad rakya sai ! tera kimme nhi ho sakda

Is it a compliment ! Might be you picture Gandhi as someone too hyped over, but who can never fit into "your" definition of idealism, but world as a whole has many reasons to give him an honorary space, and I dont find myself anywhere to be called as someone to be his follower, its a very tedious path which he showed us to walk upon ! Anyways, thanx for the compliment !

If churning fun out of life with my feet on ground is brain wash then I dont find any wrong with the tag given by your goodself ! Thanx for telling me mera kuch nahi ho sakda, kyonki is regards me to mai chahti bhi nahi ki mera kuch ho, ye soch mujhe pasand hai ! Live life king size, but look at the fellow passer by's too with an eye of compassion ! Spend with might, but never skip the foresight :)