Gujjar Swabhiman Rally... Jat rally?

[desijat]

Gujjar Swabhiman Rally!!!! Dont know if it was a hit or went off like any other normal rally but it was a good platform to bring all gujjars together. However, i feel they are trying to win a lost battle and there is no use of such rallys..

Attaching 2 pics of rally which i found in a friends profile...

Do we need something of this sought?

[shashiverma]

Btw..what was this really related to???......Swabhimaan???...wat is it about?

[desijat]

Btw..what was this really related to???......Swabhimaan???...wat is it about?

I hope you remember the crisis in Rajasthan a month back... this is just an image buildint excercie to cover it

[rohittewatia]

Still, shows the fact they have good unity atleast.

/Rohit.

[mann123]

I think name is wrongly choosen by then Swabhiman -- itna hai to reservation kyo chaiye

Rola karen main buses fukan main hi unity ho sakti inke koi productive kam ke liye to time nahi hain.

[badal24]

I think U r a Gujar and this site is for only Jats OK

[desijat]

I think U r a Gujar and this site is for only Jats OK


hahahaha:p:p

[amiteshv]

Still, shows the fact they have good unity atleast.

/Rohit.

alas! if Jats could have such unity!

[amiteshv]

ek thara yo Jat reservation ke nam pe hi unite koni honn de. Hindu, muslim, sikh, isai jat tte door ki batt sse?

[amiteshv]

ek thare Charan singh ne ek rally kadhi thi dilli me. Jis ka incharge pritam singh bhinder ko banaya gaya tha. where 25 lakhs people poured into Delhi. whears population of Delhi was less than that. Was this Gujjar Rally any match for that?

[kanishka]

jab jab Jat Gujjar is mahanubhav Rajput ne apna rahnuma banayenge un ka yehi hal hoga.

[kanishka]

manne kuchh issya laage sse ukk Jat Gujjar donu Rajput se jyada purana sse:)

[raj1971]

As per my view jat are strong like rathi saria ( tata Ispat).they need no rally to show this kyonki kamjor ikkathe ho ker majbuti deekhate hain. sher akele rehte hain. if jat also get reservation then kon bachegaa.

Raj Dahiya
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take due care avoid medicare

[snandal1]

Please be clear if Jat does not get reservation soon, then Jat hi nahin bachega.:rolleyes:

[mukeshkumar007]

As per my view jat are strong like rathi saria ( tata Ispat).they need no rally to show this kyonki kamjor ikkathe ho ker majbuti deekhate hain. sher akele rehte hain. if jat also get reservation then kon bachegaa.

Raj Dahiya
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take due care avoid medicare



Bhaishaab !! sochte to sehi ho lakin kabi thoda practicle bi hona chaiye !!

[panwaramit]

Arey lala yeh to balak kama kha kate ho ke gujar gujar karan lag re henge..ke he ye ...Hum hum hain bahiyo ar baki baki paani kam hain...Agar en ke bech mein ja ke dahad bhi mar di to koi tekege na...JAI HO JAT PARIVAR...

[skadian123]

I agree very much with Vikas Choudhary when he says that such rallies are needed to show the countrymen that we are a sizeable and important part of the Indian milieu.

It is one thing to say we are united and quite another to prove it in deeds. The gujjars have proved they actually are by coming together for a cause - Reservation. We as jats are content that we are a progressive community and hence don't need any reservation. With all regards to our fellow communities, one very good example of a community which has progressed well is Ahirs/Yadavs. They are a progressive community and at the same time enjoy the fruits of reservation in states from Haryana to Bihar including Rajasthan and UP.

We need to bring change at two levels - First at the Individual level where we need to excel and do well in whatever field we are. Second at the community level, when we have already proven to the world and ourselves we are a force to reckon with- we are the best in our fields.

A very good example of such progressive communities are the scots of Scotland and Jews. People swear by the quality and taste of scots. If something is accepted to be of good quality by the scots then it has to be good. The other is jews - who are the bulwark and foundation of the American establishment - be it technical and scientific talentpool or the fine diplomacy of its bureaucrats/diplomats. In fact the jews as a community have won the maximum number of noble prizes any community has won.

Finally in a nutshell - We as a community and as members of a great community need to have faith in and respect for our own community and its people. If we donot have respect for our own community and do not do anything to uplift it, believe me no one would.

Learn -> outperform -> Uplift fellow Jats -> The community progresses

Great journeys of a thousand miles and more start with a single step.....So go ahead and take the first step

[snandal1]

Bhaishaab !! sochte to sehi ho lakin kabi thoda practicle bi hona chaiye !!

manne bade bade swabhimani Jat lakh rappeeye de ke haryana police me bharti hote sune, UP me naukari khatar Capt Bhopal Singh ne pisse dete sune aur jab naukri koni laagi jab us ka murder karte sune.

Gujjar ek practical step le rhye ssen. Vo unki galti hai ki bassen phoonk rhye ssen. Jab Chaudhari Charan Singh ki rally likdi thi jab ek bhi koi untoward incident koni hoya, Dilli me.

Bhala ho hamare swabhimani Jaton ka yahan jo upne kaumi Jat bhai ko misguide kar rahe hain.:eek:

[anrtish]

mujjhe khushi hai ki kum se kum ye gujjar bhai apne gujjar bhaiyon ko gumrah to nahin kar raha.

yahan Jaton me to apne hi kaumi bhai ko gumrah karne ke liye bade bade log baithe hain.

gujjar khali vahan gumrah ho rah hai jahan use shanti priya pradarshan nahin karna aata hai.

ek mahatma gandhi ke zamane me ek chauri-chaura kand hoya tha.

immediately he called off his movement.:)

[amiteshv]

rre udhmi ghanne the yo, aanne shanti kadi koni pasand, aanne itna udham machaya ukk supreme court bhi jag gaya. aade nne kuchh logical answer dyo tte bera pattye, ukk tharri batt mme kke dumm see.:)

[kanishka]

Jats in Haryana OBC status, says Hooda

http://www.indianexpress.com/res/web.../ige23105.html (http://www.indianexpress.com/res/web/pIe/ie/daily/19991023/ige23105.html)
Give Jats in Haryana OBC status, says Hooda
EXPRESS NEWS SERVICE


Conclusions
thankful to you all my blood brothers for sharing your views if my words were desi, haryanvi or bit hard sometimes, please take them in right spirit with due regard to all of you, while thread continues I'll be bit busy for some days and would like to take leave. My conclusions from the above discussions are the following:

1. Many Jats lack awareness regarding their utmost needs and immediate priorities. OBC reservation is the fact which is most immediately obvious of these. It cries for instant action and no further wastage of time.

2. Some people on this site are not Jats but pretend to be Jats. They always try to misguide people here against the interests of Jats.

3. Some Jats here are either ignorant of the plight of rural Jats or unnecessarilly try be over-idealists and seudo-nationalists. Real india is not this geographical unit only but the majority of its population. Majority of population of India favours aarakshan.

4. Jats were not included in reserve category and with other non-reserved people they started singing to the tune of those people that reservation is no good to nation or even to the people who are getting reservation. Though these are open broad day lite facts to see how Meenas rose in 50 years. Why then Gujjars agitate? etc.

All such theories behind such seudo-logics is the frustration of non-reserved people to see some government jobs slipping out of their hands.

5. No doubt some Jats are really meritorious and well to do. They neither require reservation nor desire it. But they are over enthusiastic and sadly mistaken that all Jats are like them. Also they do not know what harm they are doing to his poor brother Jat in village by saying "NO TO RESERVATION". They always have option to be in general category if Jat comes in OBC but poor Jat does not have option to be in OBC if Jat remains in general category.

6. Jats have tendency of justice and equality and think too much of other castes etc. Its positive quality though but excess is bad.

7. Some Jats are too proudy. Though its also good but somewhere some practical angle should also be there.

8. Jats always have the tendency to take the lead like Hanuman. Which always costs them dearly. They forget that sometimes Bania attitude is also beneficial. Whether its reservationist group or non-reservationist group Jats come on the fore-front from both sides and fight among themselves while other beneficiary and non-beneficiary castes simply speak or infuse them or watch silently. This was seen recently in Delhi and around in anti-rservation stir 1-2 years back. Rajasthan Jats were at the fore front opposing reservation violently in early nineties.

9. They do not understand where exactly are lying their interests. They fail to realise that they are about 1% of India's population. Their support or opposition will hardly make some impact on reservation policy. They should better channelise their energy in finding their position in this caste reservation structure. So dnt support and dnt oppose better join in it as OBC.

10. Some Jats are over cautious of OBC tag over their caste. They should take lesson from Gujjar and Meenas. Jats have common hucca with them. And when they are happy in ST category why cant you tolerate just OBC. O bhai OBC kum se kum ST se to upper hai.

11. Jats are the most backward in non-reserved category. So these people were and will always be above them even without reservation. Other castes who are lower than Jats will again be over the Jats due to reservation. So Jat is fast sinking at the lowest bottom of sea with the passage of time. He is the worst sufferer due to reservation.

12. Jat is most forward in OBC. If he comes in OBC then he is best gainer in reservation.

13. Reservation ek voton ki rajniti hai ye kahne se kuchh nahin hota. Rajniti to sari hi voton ki hai and our constitution provides for that. In fact this vote rajniti of reservation favours Jat most. 70% of Indian population is OBC and Jat is at the top of this 70%. Ye rasta Jat ko PM ki taraf le jata hai.

14. Doosri taraf Jat 10-20% non-reserved category me sub se neeche hai. Is category ki baaki aur sub jatiyon ne Jat ko sadiyon se kuchla hai ab kaise chhod dengi. Halanki kuchla inho ne baki sub jatiyon ko bhi hai. Lekin vo to sub in se pind chhuda ke reservation le ke bhag nikli. Ek Jat hi atka rah gaya hai. To bhai Jat tu bhi bhaajj lle pawan nne dhar ke sir pe.

15. Jat ka reservation ko support karna aur oppose karna bheet me sir marne jaisa hai. Is se reservation pe koi asar nahin padta. Aur chup baithna sumunder me doobne jaisa hai where very fast he is sinking and heading towards bottom. To bhai ab haath paanw te marne hi padenge tairne ke liye.

16. Jat reservation ko ek ghar ka halwa samajh ke baat kar rahe hain.Ye Haryana ka Jat itne serious halat me bhi aise aintha baitha hai jaise Taayee thali me use halwa paros rahi ho. Ukk beta halwa kha le, na tayee me na khata is halwa ne.

Bhaiyo hum bhi aap jaise hi Jat hain abhi to aap log aise mana kar rahe hain jaise ghar ka halwa ho per jab aap log haan bhi kar doge to koi aap ko koi ye itni asaani se nahin dene wala. You have to fight for it. You have no other option. Sooner is better.


my best wishes
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[kanishka]

As per my view jat are strong like rathi saria ( tata Ispat).they need no rally to show this kyonki kamjor ikkathe ho ker majbuti deekhate hain. sher akele rehte hain. if jat also get reservation then kon bachegaa.

Raj Dahiya
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Jat did know some rally like by Chaudhary Charan Singh, the kind of which was never held b4 in world history.

[amiteshv]

manne bade bade swabhimani Jat lakh rappeeye de ke haryana police me bharti hote sune, UP me naukari khatar Capt Bhopal Singh ne pisse dete sune aur jab naukri koni laagi jab us ka murder karte sune.

Gujjar ek practical step le rhye ssen. Vo unki galti hai ki bassen phoonk rhye ssen. Jab Chaudhari Charan Singh ki rally likdi thi jab ek bhi koi untoward incident koni hoya, Dilli me.

Bhala ho hamare swabhimani Jaton ka yahan jo upne kaumi Jat bhai ko misguide kar rahe hain.:eek:

In Jatyan nne jab sarm koni awe jab ye sari kabliyat hote hue ek reserve category ke manas nne chapdasi ban ke pani pilate hain

[amiteshv]

Bainsla kyon nahin ban paye Tikait?

Is pe thoda dhyan dene ki jaroorat hai.