Akhil Bhartiya Jat Mahasabha : Kharad, Muzaffarnagar - 24 Nov'07

[piush_tomar]

Akhil Bhartiya Jat Mahasabha : Kharad, Muzaffarnagar - 24 Nov'07

Arround 25 thousand people of Jat community gathered from different states like UP,Haryana,Punjab,J & K and Delhi.Major issues discussed:]*Jat Reservation in Central Govt. Job
*Modern Education in Primary schools
*Total Ban on Dowry
*Total Ban on alcohol[/SIZE]


http://jatrace.com/jatmahasabha_24_11_07.htm

[amiteshv]

bahut badhiya sse bhai. aa sub tte badhiya thari reservation ki policy laagi. Jatyan nne reservation te milna hi chahiye bhai. aa nne resrvation koni milya, jub ye khetihar mazdoor tha. aa ganna bowe tha aur us ki phasal ki keemat koi aur nirdharit kare tha. even charan singh as PM could not do any justice to this kheti-har mazdoor.

aaj jat ka chhora criminal banne sse ukk us ne koi job koni thyave.......

paki pakayee kheer OBC/SC/ST le jyave... aur us tte upper ki aa forward caste le jyave. Ek Jat hi ya sandwitch bunn rhya sse.

[ranjitjat]

Many congratulations to All India Jat Mahasabha members.
Carry on good work on Education and upliftment of masses.
our best wishes are with you.
greetings from London
Dharmpal Singh Dudee

History Introduction


"The Jats are not only a Hindu Caste; of coarse they are a race" - John Saymore said about Jats in Round About India 1953. The Jats have a proud history, but no historian. They have long memories, but little sense of history. Their record in patriotic valour is glorious. Rajputs had James Tod, the Marathas had Grant-Duff, Sikhs had Cunningham as historians but Jats had no historian. A look at the Indian history reveals that after the resurrection of Hinduism by Adi Shankracharya, Kumaril Bhatt and Ramanujam, the caste-brahmin became the sole arbiter of new order and hierarchy. They distorted history and social precedence to suit them. Jats refused to brahmanical Hinduism. Kshatriyas who accepted the brahmanical supremacy unconditionally became favourites and were given dignified name of Raj-Putra, the modern day Rajputs. Jats drew the censure of the privileged Brahmin, hence, their historical background and contribution was underrated, distorted and ignored. In India, either history was not written about in ancient ages, or the writings have perished. Even today, a number of ancient manuscripts lie in the great libraries of India, Iran, Central Asia and Middle East unread, uncatalogued and untranslated. Many might shed additional light on Indian history and particularly the ignored Jat history. One of the most urgent tasks of scholarships is the publication and translation of these various works. History of India, as it is taught in our schools, colleges and universities, leaves many questions unanswered. Almost every alternate step, we have to put a question mark, and these question marks start from the very beginning of the historical period. Were the Aryans, native to India, or did they come from outside? If the latter, from where? Who were the Nandas and Mauryas? Why are they called the initiators of the Age of Sudra rulers? What happened to the Ksaharatas and the republican Tribes? Who were the Guptas? Why do the Puranas not mention the kings of the Maurya/Gupta dynasty? Who started our national eras, the Saka and the Vikram Samvatas?

Introduction to Jat History
It was in 1925 that Prof. Kalika Ranjan Quanungo’s “History of the Jat” appeared. It is still the soundest book on the subject; it is scholarly, but not an inspired work. Thakur Deshraj produced his book on Jat history in Hindi “Jat Itihasa” in 1934. It is a well-researched book and still serves as a reference book. It has not yet been translated in to English. Ram Swarup Joon has written another well researched book "History of the Jats" in Hindi in 1938 which was translated in English in 1967. In the last 80 years quite a few other books in Hindi came on the subject; notable by Kaviraj Dr. Yogender Pal Shastri, Capt. Dilip Singh Ahlawat, Dharmpal Dudi etc. Bhim Singh Dahiya was a historian and civil servant belonging to the Indian Revenue Service (IRS). In 1982, he wrote the monumental book- "Jats the Ancient rulers", published by Dahinam Publishers, Sonipat, Haryana. This book is a reconstruction of the History of Jats from time immemorial. His linkage of the clan names/ Gotras to the existence of the Jats in Central Asia, and Europe, put a stamp on the histiography of the Jat History, for the people who could not have access to the works in Hindi or Urdu. He brought out to the layman reader, that Chandragupta Maurya, the Kushans, the second Guptas, and Harshavardhana were Jats. He showed how the G letter was a substitution for the J sound, as the J letter did not exist in the ancient Greek alphabet. The significance was in determining who the Guti were, whom the Chinese and Western and most Indian Historians know as the Yuezhi, but are Jats, of whom Kushans were just one clan Kaswan, not a people unto themselves. In 1992, he brought out his next book- Rig Vedic Tribes and Aryans, published by Dahinam Publishers, Sonipat, Haryana. Here he demonstrated how over 80 Jat Goths, Gotras, clans could be traced back to the Rig Veda. His third great work in the history is in the form of Book- History of Hindustan Vol. I, II, III. Dahinam Publishers, Sonipat, Haryana also published it. Dr Natthan Singh has written a very good book on Jat History in Hindi “Jat Itihasa” which is published by Jat Samaj Kalyan Parishad Gwalior in 2004. He was also editor of second edition (1992) of his book on Jat history “Jat Itihas” written in 1934 by Thakur Deshraj.
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[trueblueindian]

Akhil Bhartiya Jat Mahasabha : Kharad, Muzaffarnagar - 24 Nov'07

Arround 25 thousand people of Jat community gathered from different states like UP,Haryana,Punjab,J & K and Delhi.Major issues discussed:]*Jat Reservation in Central Govt. Job[/SIZE]
*Modern Education in Primary schools
*Total Ban on Dowry
*Total Ban on alcohol


http://jatrace.com/jatmahasabha_24_11_07.htm

shouldnt the info be posted before the programme ?? about the event ... so that ppl from JL could have also visited this event ??

[amiteshv]

WONDERFUL!
dudee ji ke bina saari jat mahasabha adhoori:)

[lrburdak]

Members may like to see article on Jat Mahasabha on Jatland Wiki. Here is the link:

http://www.jatland.com/home/Jat_Mahasabha

Regards,

[ranjitjat]

Laxman ji very good efforts. Carry on good work.
I am coming to India soon. I will presented my new book to you and other Samaj Sevak-social workers.
History of Haryana saravkhap martyrs and freedom fighters.
Amit Verma ji- Thank you very much.
All India Jat mahasabha- hamare purvajo ny
Ch ChhotuRam Ji ny banai hae.
Hamne to Jatmahasabha ki 100 yrs ki
History- Lekha Jokha likh kar isko Abhi
International Jat Mahasabha bana diya hae.
Hamare Bhai-Bahin aur naujawan sathi-
kuch jumewari laen- Co-op kare
toa Ham isko Jatoo Ki
visav panchayat UNO bana sakte han.
Iske liye jaruri hae hamko Apne
Matarsakti-Womenfolk ko aage lana hoga.

[lrburdak]

Thanks Dharmpal Ji

I am in need of your books.

Regards,

[anrtish]

everybody is eagger

[vikrammeel]

me too Sir

[kanishka]

Duddeji aap sangharsh karyo hum tumhare saath hain.

ussi vadde vadde allexandrann nu back to the pavillion kitta.


http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?p=154212#post154212

[ranjitjat]

Dear Kaniska Bhai
Thank you for your support and kind words
Sanghrash tao Janam sy hi chal raha hae
Khud ky Sangrash ki Kahani Vedesh mae
40 sal tao -Abhi likhna baki hae
Jiwan AK Sanghrash hae.apne aim
-goal ko
pane ky liye Jaruri hae
Yah sanghrash- Kuch 2 to har insan
ko khud hi ladna padta hae.
Jiwan mae Help - Guide ki bhi jarurat padti hae
Hamne to 16 Sal ki Umar mae
Ghar Tyag kar Navy Join kar
Jiwan ko Samundar ko samarpit kar diya.
Phir 26 Yrs ki Umar mae Bharat ko
Parnam kar aaye -
visav hi apna ghar hae ko apnaya
aur Jiwan sanghrash-
Do some good deeds
Karma hi Dharam- Jat ka moolmantra hae
Chal hi raha hae.
Lekin Election Ladna hi Aim hota tao
Jab Dusuru ko Ladaya-Jitaya
Tabhi lad leta.
I am Happy in Tau King maker and
Social worker-help others
History writer role as always

[vikrammeel]

door tak aayi thi yaad e vatan samjhane ko:)

[kanishka]

Truly Inspiring Dudeeji, like R S Joon is there any book of yours online? Otherwise we'd like to have a few books from you? Are any of these is in any library, like Maharaja Surajmal Society etc.? If not then please give some over there.

[kanishka]

Laxman ji very good efforts. Carry on good work.
I am coming to India soon. I will presented my new book to you and other Samaj Sevak-social workers.
History of Haryana saravkhap martyrs and freedom fighters.
Amit Verma ji- Thank you very much.
All India Jat mahasabha- hamare purvajo ny
Ch ChhotuRam Ji ny banai hae.
Hamne to Jatmahasabha ki 100 yrs ki
History- Lekha Jokha likh kar isko Abhi
International Jat Mahasabha bana diya hae.
Hamare Bhai-Bahin aur naujawan sathi-
kuch jumewari laen- Co-op kare
toa Ham isko Jatoo Ki
visav panchayat UNO bana sakte han.
Iske liye jaruri hae hamko Apne
Matarsakti-Womenfolk ko aage lana hoga.

nice ideas and work

[amiteshv]

one of the five channels that natgeo gives is history. that clearly gives how and how why and why radar was invented, air craft was invented ... when and where that was used in war for first time, like in second world war for the first time plane was used in war...etc.

I agree, there is no history of the world other than jats.
but all jat historians are lacking the basic phenomenon for not knowing what and what happened in long Jat history, when and where and how did it affect Jats? What is the differenece then in Chandrabardai, Bhushan and Jat poet?

History is not a sweet imagination of "mat chuke chauhan". We all historians must know the invention of

1.bows and arrows
2.other weapons
3.gold
4.iron
5.barood
6.horse,elephant,dog,duck, dolphin, kabooter, pashupati shiva...etc.
7.cigarette/hukka
8.wine......................
..................................
.......etc.
9.monsoon phenomenon
10.canal system for agriculture.....

..........................................
...........

perhaps there was no herodotus in the oxus valley who could have done the justice to the exploits of jats

[vikrammeel]

Akhil Bhartiya Jat Mahasabha : Kharad, Muzaffarnagar - 24 Nov'07

Arround 25 thousand people of Jat community gathered from different states like UP,Haryana,Punjab,J & K and Delhi.Major issues discussed:]*Jat Reservation in Central Govt. Job[/SIZE]
*Modern Education in Primary schools
*Total Ban on Dowry
*Total Ban on alcohol


http://jatrace.com/jatmahasabha_24_11_07.htm
kadi apne interest ne bhi watch kar liya karo for example:reservation of jats in central goverment jobs

[vikrammeel]

where this shabd bhedi bann comes from that killed shravan?:)

[piush_tomar]

[QUOTE=trueblueindian;155117]you are right Sandesh bhai..it shld be inform well before the event..Next time we will inform all our Jat Bhai on Jatland.QUOTE]

[anrtish]

gar yaad rahe.yaa dudee/pilania aisya praani se jo jatta ne reservation bhi dilva dega aur cm bhi bana rahega.

[ranjitjat]

gar yaad rahe.yaa dudee/pilania aisya praani se jo jatta ne reservation bhi dilva dega aur cm bhi bana rahega.

Dear anrtish and all
Thanks
Pilania sahib ny Rajasthan ky Jatoo ko
reservation to dela hi daye hae
That is great
Ground level per yah pilaniya sahib ki
bahut badi kamyabi hae.
Dudee ny to PR kuch help kiye hae.
Abhi koe Jhanda- lekar ata hae
Jat kaum ki Bhalai ka beeda
uthyega to ham uske bhi sath han.
Lekin Hamari ladai aarpaar ki hae
Yadi- Yadav- Gujar-Mali- Meena
Kisan ko Resevation ki Rewadi milti hae
to Phir Bhole Hindu-Sikh- Jat Kisan ko
Rohtak- Rewari ki Rewari kuan nahi
Ya phir yah resevation ka Drama
Vote bank ki gandi rajniti Khatam ho
Resevation ka Adhar- Economical ho
Service ka aadhar- education yogata ho

Equal right to all human beings
Man-woman and bhailog
including Jats/Jatnis

[amiteshv]

dudee jissya na koi hoya aur bhai badi batt tte me kaddi kahta koni, per, na hi kadi hogya

[amiteshv]

sub tte pahle aap ya gregoerian calender tte research start karyo ji. koi march bole kare thya or sare jat march karye karte "ukk ebb tte meri phasal bik gayee se", ebb me tanne dekh lunga. utth oe'jatta aiyee baisakhi.

aa jat sahi mannsun season me raj kiya karta n truly monsoon season is experienced in india only.

[amiteshv]

aa march tte thoda count karyo,.......

sept, oct , nov....december....deca

last month feb me saare din ratt a

[amiteshv]

adjust howe the, like leap year.....

[amiteshv]

a rama was born like u. He sustained a principle of non-violence, He was in no way imperialest. He was great arya samaji. He relinquished His own empire for His own blood brother, bharat.

He, relinquished His own empire, to vibhishan, shatrughn of mathura, n even later to kush.. jis ne us ka ghoda aswa medh yagya ka pakad liya tha...

[amiteshv]

jat na to kabhi ghode ka aur na hi kabhi kutte ka mans khaya karte the, aur na hi kabhi apne ancestor ka, as mentions herodotus.

[amiteshv]

pashupatis as they were called after shiva, as recently as allexander visited Indian Jats.

greeks were afraid of a big animal haathi, whom nandal Jats (nand vansh) of patli putra tamed

hence, allexander turned back

[amiteshv]

i urge u 2 concentrate on indus valley civilization also where this pashupati is found. where it is shown how gold came in india. at least not through kolar mines???

[amiteshv]

n gupta jats could not have enriched these people without trade throgh ocean like chahal/chahl/chola jats...

still they are remembered for their most powerful navy in india. their temples still echo with their names in kanchipuram....

there were various places like kanga naidu n banga naidu.. etc...

even last tenali ram over there was jat...

[amiteshv]

luv founded lahore n kush founded kasur yet kush was chosen as next emperor because he was born from kush/bhuss.