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dndeswal
December 9th, 2007, 06:41 PM
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Jatland’s Wiki Section Books on Jat History (http://www.jatland.com/home/Books_on_Jat_History) now contains text of a rare book connected with the freedom movement of India - The Autobiography of Ramprasad ‘Bismil’. This book was in fact banned by British Raj in India immediately after its first edition was out some time in 1930 or so. The book, however, was published after Independence by some Arya Samaj outfits, including by Haryana Sahitya Sansthan, Gurukul Jhajjar (Haryana).


Many of us have heard about Ramprasad Bismil but know very little about him. Bismil was the great freedom fighter and poet who also wrote the famous tarana (song) – Sarfaroshi ki Tamanna (सरफ़रोशी की तमन्ना अब हमारे दिल में है ). Perhaps no other song, with the exception of Bankim Chandra's Vande Matram, induced so many young men to lay down their lives for the motherland than this song written by Ram Prasad Bismil.


This great son of India was hanged to death by British Raj on 19 December 1927 inside Gorakhpur Jail. Bismil wrote his autobiography (in Hindi) in his prison-cell. Please read its full text on the following link of Jatland Wiki:

रामप्रसाद 'बिस्मिल' की आत्मकथा (http://www.jatland.com/home/%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%8D%E0%A 4%B0%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A6_%27%E0%A4%AC%E0%A4 %BF%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B2%2 7_%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%80_%E0%A4%86%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8D%E 0%A4%AE%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%A5%E0%A4%BE)


The electronic text of the book was prepared by me and posted here, as a gift to Jatland.com. Let us remember Ramprasad Bismil, the great martyr, on his 80th death anniversary, by going through his autobiography which also provides some glimpse of the history of freedom movement.
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<O:p</O:p

ravileo
December 9th, 2007, 08:41 PM
I would like to read
more and more
about Ramprasad Bismil

Thank you
sir

vijay
December 9th, 2007, 08:51 PM
Nice job DND sir :)

I saw it today at Jatland Wiki .... will surely read it ..

Ramprashad Bismil was the role model and inspiration for Chandershekhar Azad, Bhagat Singh and other young freedom fighters of that time.

anrtish
December 9th, 2007, 11:19 PM
oh, that man Bismil, that converted Ashphaq ullah khan into a krantikari. I envied even Bhagat. Punjab govt recognised Bhagat and objected to his hat, but recognised his photo where this Jat ram was sitting on a charpai, without any hat...


but Sir, some Jat Genda Ram used to be there, jis ko dast lag gaye the. kitti palwal/hodal ke aas pass ka tha yo genda ram???

dndeswal
December 11th, 2007, 04:43 AM
I would like to read
more and more
about Ramprasad Bismil

Thank you
sir

His autobiography itself gives a detailed account of his life and deeds. Please go through it first.


but Sir, some Jat Genda Ram used to be there, jis ko dast lag gaye the. kitti palwal/hodal ke aas pass ka tha yo genda ram???

Not a Jat, his name was Pandit Gainda Lal Dixit, the main mind behind "Mainpuri Conspiracy". There is a special paragraph dedicated to him in the second chapter of Bismil's autobiography which can be read on Jatland Wiki.
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jitendershooda
December 11th, 2007, 11:29 AM
His autobiography itself gives a detailed account of his life and deeds. Please go through it first.



Not a Jat, his name was Pandit Gainda Lal Dixit, the main mind behind "Mainpuri Conspiracy". There is a special paragraph dedicated to him in the second chapter of Bismil's autobiography which can be read on Jatland Wiki.
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Andy kaam kar diya Deshwal ji. Kalle padh geri, thalli tha :). Thanks a lot for sharing such a nice and durlabh autobiography.

ashwal
December 11th, 2007, 01:00 PM
Thank you Sir ,
It is really a great piece

ashwal
December 11th, 2007, 01:19 PM
Sir Ji ,
Request if we can post it on wikipedia as well for benefit of all

gauravgu
December 11th, 2007, 03:03 PM
Sir Ji ,
Request if we can post it on wikipedia as well for benefit of all

An excellent suggestion...
Also If possible it can be converted into word or adobe document..

anrtish
December 11th, 2007, 11:14 PM
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Jatland’s Wiki Section Books on Jat History (http://www.jatland.com/home/Books_on_Jat_History) now contains text of a rare book connected with the freedom movement of India - The Autobiography of Ramprasad ‘Bismil’. This book was in fact banned by British Raj in India immediately after its first edition was out some time in 1930 or so. The book, however, was published after Independence by some Arya Samaj outfits, including by Haryana Sahitya Sansthan, Gurukul Jhajjar (Haryana).


Many of us have heard about Ramprasad Bismil but know very little about him. Bismil was the great freedom fighter and poet who also wrote the famous tarana (song) – Sarfaroshi ki Tamanna (सरफ़रोशी की तमन्ना अब हमारे दिल में है ). Perhaps no other song, with the exception of Bankim Chandra's Vande Matram, induced so many young men to lay down their lives for the motherland than this song written by Ram Prasad Bismil.


This great son of India was hanged to death by British Raj on 19 December 1927 inside Gorakhpur Jail. Bismil wrote his autobiography (in Hindi) in his prison-cell. Please read its full text on the following link of Jatland Wiki:

रामप्रसाद 'बिस्मिल' की आत्मकथा (http://www.jatland.com/home/%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%8D%E0%A 4%B0%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A6_%27%E0%A4%AC%E0%A4 %BF%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B2%2 7_%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%80_%E0%A4%86%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8D%E 0%A4%AE%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%A5%E0%A4%BE)


The electronic text of the book was prepared by me and posted here, as a gift to Jatland.com. Let us remember Ramprasad Bismil, the great martyr, on his 80th death anniversary, by going through his autobiography which also provides some glimpse of the history of freedom movement.
.

<o>:p</o>:p

that kakori kand. a few shots were fired. a train suddenly stopped by all the krantikaris.

vo jo khazana itne aasani se loot liya tha, inn veeron nne

anrtish
December 11th, 2007, 11:26 PM
His autobiography itself gives a detailed account of his life and deeds. Please go through it first.



Not a Jat, his name was Pandit Gainda Lal Dixit, the main mind behind "Mainpuri Conspiracy". There is a special paragraph dedicated to him in the second chapter of Bismil's autobiography which can be read on Jatland Wiki.
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but in gwalior fort it looks from jains/bodh to teoti-huaccan (merxiccan valley civilizations) all forts , as if they all had some-thing in common...

anrtish
December 11th, 2007, 11:41 PM
His autobiography itself gives a detailed account of his life and deeds. Please go through it first.



Not a Jat, his name was Pandit Gainda Lal Dixit, the main mind behind "Mainpuri Conspiracy". There is a special paragraph dedicated to him in the second chapter of Bismil's autobiography which can be read on Jatland Wiki.
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haanji per us ke uttaradhikari koi mor chal aasan pranayam sikhave the. per ek zabardast arya samaji tha yo genda ram ji.

mere nanaji uksar is ka naam liya karte

anrtish
December 11th, 2007, 11:48 PM
udde nne ramanand, swami :)adityavesh baddi badai kiya karta ya bismil ki, ak punjab govt ne bhagat jat ke liye te bada kuchh kar diya per bismil ke liye to kuchh koyna...

dndeswal
December 12th, 2007, 05:22 AM
Sir Ji ,
Request if we can post it on wikipedia as well for benefit of all

A good suggestion. I have posted it on wikipedia also. See the following page :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_Prasad_Bismil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_Prasad_Bismil)

An excellent suggestion...
Also If possible it can be converted into word or adobe document..

Yes, Actually I have myself done it in MS Word before posting it here. If someone has adobe software, it can be converted in to adobe document also. Using copy-paste method from Jatland or wikipedia page, anyone of you can convert it into MS Word, Wordpad etc.
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lrburdak
December 13th, 2007, 07:12 PM
Great work Dayanand ji. It required a lot of labour by you. I have done some formating on Wikipedia as Hindi is a separate language there. Each language article is indicated on left panel under "In other languages". Hindi Wikipedia has welcomed as under and considering to make it a Wiki Source

लक्ष्मण जी, स्वागतम्

हिन्दी विकिपीडिया पर आपका हार्दिक स्वागत है।

आपने महान शहीद रामप्रसाद 'बिस्मिल' की आत्मकथा को विकि पर रखकर बहुत अच्छा काम किया है। किन्तु मुझे लगता है कि इसे विकिपीडिया के बजाय विकिपिडिया के एक अन्य बन्धु प्रकल्प हिन्दी विकिस्रोत पर रखना अधिक उपयुक्त होगा। विकिस्रोत ऐसे ही कार्यों के लिये बनाया गया है - कापीराइट से मुक्त पुस्तकों एवं दस्तावेजों के लिये। वहाँ पर पहले से ही आत्मकथा एवं जीवनी के लिये एक पेज बनाया हुआ है। गांधीजी की आत्मकथा वहाँ लिखिइ जा चुकी है। उसी तरह 'बिस्मिल' की आत्मकथा के लिये भी कर सकते हैं।

अनुनाद सिंह ०६:०९, १३ दिसम्बर २००७ (UTC)

vikrammeel
December 13th, 2007, 09:34 PM
but in gwalior fort it looks from jains/bodh to teoti-huaccan (merxiccan valley civilizations) all forts , as if they all had some-thing in common...
human sacrifice/mrityu dand/capital punishment was common in gwalior and teoti-huccan forts. and perhaps similar was common in Rome also, and perhaps everywhere. then why on discovery channel teoti-huaccan forts are being criticised.

"The question is not that human sacrifice was being practiced over there. but even bigger is that why???"

asks discovery (history) channel.


Though this is out of track, but even I've seen gwalior fort. and arrangement for mass execution of criminals by throwing them from the fort is there. This was due to the reason that Chambal was nearby. And many people there were of disobedient type. Similar situation continued till today.

What Arya Samaj did was to channelize the energies of these people in positive direction i.e. towards Swatantrata Sangram.

dndeswal
December 18th, 2007, 07:29 PM
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Bismil and Ashfaq were hanged to death on 19 December 1927. Just for record, I am pasting below a small article which appeared today, in case the URL gets spoilt after some time.

http://in.jagran.yahoo.com/news/national/general/5_1_4001475.html

हंसते-हंसते झूल गए फांसी के फंदे पर
(Dainik Jagran, 18 December 2007)

नई दिल्ली। भारतीय स्वाधीनता संग्राम में काकोरी कांड एक ऐसी घटना है जिसने अंग्रेजों की नींव झकझोर कर रख दी थी। अंग्रेजों ने आजादी के दीवानों द्वारा अंजाम दी गई इस घटना को काकोरी डकैती का नाम दिया और इसके लिए कई स्वतंत्रता सेनानियों को 19 दिसंबर 1927 को फांसी के फंदे पर लटका दिया।

फांसी की सजा से आजादी के दीवाने जरा भी विचलित नहीं हुए और वे हंसते-हंसते फांसी के फंदे पर झूल गए। बात नौ अगस्त 1925 की है जब चंद्रशेखर आजाद, राम प्रसाद बिस्मिल, अशफाकउल्ला खान, राजेंद्र लाहिड़ी और रोशन सिंह सहित 10 क्रांतिकारियों ने मिलकर लखनऊ से 14 मील दूर काकोरी और आलमनगर के बीच ट्रेन में ले जाए जा रहे सरकारी खजाने को लूट लिया।

दरअसल क्रांतिकारियों ने जो खजाना लूटा उसे जालिम अंग्रेजों ने हिंदुस्तान के लोगों से ही छीना था। लूटे गए धन का इस्तेमाल क्रांतिकारी हथियार खरीदने और आजादी के आंदोलन को जारी रखने में करना चाहते थे।

इतिहास में यह घटना काकोरी कांड के नाम से जानी गई, जिससे गोरी हुकूमत बुरी तरह तिलमिला उठी । उसने अपना दमन चक्र और भी तेज कर दिया।

अपनों की ही गद्दारी के चलते काकोरी की घटना में शामिल सभी क्रांतिकारी पकडे गए, सिर्फ चंद्रशेखर आजाद अंग्रेजों के हाथ नहीं आए । हिंदुस्तान सोशलिस्ट रिपब्लिकन आर्मी के 45 सदस्यों पर मुकदमा चलाया गया जिनमें से रामप्रसाद बिस्मिल, अशफाकउल्ला खान, राजेंद्र लाहिड़ी और रोशन सिंह को फांसी की सजा सुनाई गई ।

ब्रिटिश हुकूमत ने पक्षपातपूर्ण ढंग से मुकदमा चलाया जिसकी बड़े पैमाने पर निंदा हुई क्योंकि डकैती जैसे मामले में फांसी की सजा सुनाना अपने आप में एक अनोखी घटना थी। फांसी की सजा के लिए 19 दिसंबर 1927 की तारीख मुकर्रर की गई लेकिन राजेंद्र लाहिड़ी को इससे दो दिन पहले 17 दिसंबर को ही गोंडा जेल में फांसी पर लटका दिया गया। राम प्रसाद बिस्मिल को 19 दिसंबर 1927 को गोरखपुर जेल और अशफाक उल्ला खान को इसी दिन फैजाबाद जेल में फांसी की सजा दी गई ।

फांसी पर चढ़ते समय इन क्रांतिकारियों के चेहरे पर डर की कोई लकीर तक मौजूद नहीं थी और वे हंसते-हंसते फांसी के फंदे पर चढ़ गए।

काकोरी की घटना को अंजाम देने वाले आजादी के सभी दीवाने उच्च शिक्षित थे। रामप्रसाद बिस्मिल प्रसिद्ध कवि होने के साथ ही भाषायी ज्ञान में भी निपुण थे। उन्हें अंग्रेजी, हिंदुस्तानी, उर्दू और बांग्ला भाषा का अच्छा ज्ञान था।

अशफाक उल्ला खान इंजीनियर थे। काकोरी की घटना को क्रांतिकारियों ने काफी चतुराई से अंजाम दिया था। इसके लिए उन्होंने अपने नाम तक बदल लिए। राम प्रसाद बिस्मिल ने अपने चार अलग-अलग नाम रखे और अशफाक उल्ला ने अपना नाम कुमार जी रख लिया।

खजाने को लूटते समय क्रांतिकारियों को ट्रेन में एक जान पहचान वाला रेलवे का भारतीय कर्मचारी मिल गया। क्रांतिकारी यदि चाहते तो सबूत मिटाने के लिए उसे मार सकते थे लेकिन उन्होंने किसी की हत्या करना उचित नहीं समझा।

उस रेलवे कर्मचारी ने भी वायदा किया था कि वह किसी को कुछ नहीं बताएगा लेकिन बाद में इनाम के लालच में उसने ही पुलिस को सब कुछ बता दिया। इस तरह अपने ही देश के एक गद्दार की वजह से काकोरी की घटना में शामिल सभी जांबाज स्वतंत्रता सेनानी पकड़े गए लेकिन चंद्रशेखर आजाद जीते जी कभी अंग्रेजों के हाथ नहीं आए।
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jitendershooda
December 19th, 2007, 09:27 AM
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Bismil and Ashfaq were hanged to death on 19 December 1927. Just for record, I am pasting below a small article which appeared today, in case the URL gets spoilt after some time.

http://in.jagran.yahoo.com/news/national/general/5_1_4001475.html

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Un sab veero ko shrdhanjali. Govt. is busy in encashing VIJAY DIVAS these days putting big cut-outs of IndiraGandhi. :) .... they are so cheap people that they even dont feel ashamed of it. Either they should mention somewhere the courageous armed forces or something like that but they are portraying as if it was only Gandhi who fought and win.

Ek baat to note kari Deshwal ji manne iss jeeavni mein ek kahin bhi Bismil ne naam nahi de rakhe apne sathiyo ke ... jinhone daga kiya unke bhi nahi .... perhaps he has not mentioned chander shekhar;s too anywhere, might be due to the secret purpose as in those days there was tight pressure. What do you say?

dkumars
December 19th, 2007, 10:23 AM
Aaj hi ki din Bismil ji Shaheed hue the aur aapke iss thread se badi shredhaanjali kuch nahi ho sakti yahan JL par. Ram Prasad Bismil Ji ko mera naman aur shradhaanjali.

snandal1
December 20th, 2007, 07:40 PM
raj karega aarya samaj

snandal1
December 21st, 2007, 12:16 AM
issya hi ek angulimaar mahatma budh nne kiti nne koi jungle me thyaya tha. issya hi ek balmiki tha jis ne ramayan likhi thi.:)

dndeswal
December 22nd, 2007, 09:41 AM
Un sab veero ko shrdhanjali. ...

Ek baat to note kari Deshwal ji manne iss jeeavni mein ek kahin bhi Bismil ne naam nahi de rakhe apne sathiyo ke ... jinhone daga kiya unke bhi nahi .... perhaps he has not mentioned chander shekhar;s too anywhere, might be due to the secret purpose as in those days there was tight pressure. What do you say?

आपने इतना गौर किया, इसके लिए धन्यवाद जीतू । मैने तो इस जीवनी का एक-एक शब्द अपने हाथों से टाइप करके यहां छापा है । अपने साथियों में रोशन सिंह, अशफाक-उल्ला खान, राजेन्द्र लाहिड़ी, शचीन्द्रनाथ बख्शी और चन्द्रशेखर आजाद के नाम तो अलग-अलग जगह पर लिखे हैं, पर और साथियों के नाम एक साथ नहीं लिखे यानि उनकी लिस्ट एक साथ नहीं लिखी । आखिरी खंड में चन्द्रशेखर आजाद के फरार रहने का भी जिक्र किया है । और दगा करने वालों के नाम तो लिखे ही नहीं । बिस्मिल ने यह आत्मकथा लिखी भी जेल की अंधेरी कोठड़ी में है । यह लिखी भी जल्दबाजी में थी, गोरों से और जेल के कर्मचारियों से छुपाकर - इसलिये बहुत सी बातें छूट जायें, यह स्वाभाविक है । शुक्र है कि बिस्मिल इसको अपने एक साथी की मदद से जेल से बाहर भिजवाने में कामयाब हो गए, वर्ना अंग्रेज इसका भेद भी न लगने देते ।

बिस्मिल ने एक 'आर्य कुमार सभा' बनाई थी, यानि नौजवानों की एक टोली जो समाज सेवा में हाथ बंटाये । जाट नेता स्वामी इन्द्रवेश ने भी इसी जीवनी से प्रेरणा पाकर 1970 में आर्य कुमार सभा बनाई थी । मैने यह जीवनी कई बार पढ़ी और मैं हैरान हूं कि इतनी कम उम्र में एक नौजवान जो गरीबी में पला, जब आजकल की तरह बिजली आदि की सुविधायें भी नहीं थी, कैसे इतनी भाषायें सीख गया और इतनी अच्छी शैली में लिखता था । क्या आज ऐसे नौजवान मिलते हैं जिनके लिखने के शैली इतनी साफ सुथरी हो ? इसी से प्रेरित होकर मैंने सोचा को क्यों न थोड़ी मेहनत करके इसको वेबसाइट पर भी डाल दूं, बिस्मिल के लिए इससे अच्छी श्रद्धांजलि और क्या होगी ?

नीचे लिखी हुई कविता बिस्मिल ने जेल में ही रची थी जो लखनऊ के 'अवध' अखबार में छपी थी ।

मिट गया जब मिटने वाला फिर सलाम आया तो क्या ?
दिल की बरबादी के बाद उनका पयाम आया तो क्या ?
काश अपनी जिन्दगी में हम ये मंजर देखते
यूं सरे तुरबत कोई मशहर खराम आया तो क्या ?
मिट गई जुमला उम्मीदें, जाता रहा सारा खयाल,
उस घड़ी फिर नामवर लेकर पयाम आया तो क्या ?
ऐ दिले नाकाम मिट जा, अब तो कूचा-ए-यार में,
फिर मेरी नाकामियों के बाद काम आया तो क्या ?
आखिरी शब दीद के काबिल थी 'बिस्मिल' की तड़प ।
सुबह दम गर कोई भी बालाए बाम सामने आया तो क्या ?

बिस्मिल की मौत के बाद उनके घरवालों पर क्या बीती ? इन्तजार कीजिये मेरी अगली पोस्ट का ।
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kanishka
December 28th, 2007, 09:43 PM
u r very right Sir jeevit mata pita ki seva karna hi saccha shraad hai

kanishka
December 28th, 2007, 10:17 PM
I strongly believe, that they were, ashfaque's words, n not bismils..:)

kanishka
December 28th, 2007, 10:45 PM
Un sab veero ko shrdhanjali. Govt. is busy in encashing VIJAY DIVAS these days putting big cut-outs of IndiraGandhi. :) .... they are so cheap people that they even dont feel ashamed of it. Either they should mention somewhere the courageous armed forces or something like that but they are portraying as if it was only Gandhi who fought and win.

Ek baat to note kari Deshwal ji manne iss jeeavni mein ek kahin bhi Bismil ne naam nahi de rakhe apne sathiyo ke ... jinhone daga kiya unke bhi nahi .... perhaps he has not mentioned chander shekhar;s too anywhere, might be due to the secret purpose as in those days there was tight pressure. What do you say?

kuchh nue unye bhi soch liya karyoa, bhai ukk bhagat ke parivar pe ke guzri ho gi when he was hanged one day b4 His death sentence

kanishka
December 29th, 2007, 09:12 PM
jatinder nath sanyal died of hunger strike. but a jat sustained this hunger strike.

amiteshv
January 4th, 2008, 01:00 AM
aise hi kuch ajmer sharif ka sochiye, adhai din ke jhompde ka sochiye ghauri ka sochiye, aur jo palwal ke paas ek gaon hai ghori unke deswallan ka sochiye.:)

plsehrawat
January 7th, 2008, 11:38 PM
I hope that u r at jatland n not aryasamaj land.:)

dndeswal
April 5th, 2008, 09:34 PM
I hope that u r at jatland n not aryasamaj land.:)


यह पोस्ट एक छोटी अशुद्धि की ओर ध्यान देने के लिए लिख रहा हूं । जीवनी के पहले अध्याय का पहला शब्द 'तोमरघर' छप गया है, जो कि 'तोमरधार' होना चाहिये था । असल में पुस्तक के इस संस्करण में भी यह शब्द गलत छप गया था । ग्वालियर राज्य में तोमरधार में चम्बल नदी के किनारे रूहर तथा वरबाई नाम के दो गांव अपनी उद्दंडता के लिए आज भी प्रसिद्ध बताए जाते हैं । भूपसिंह, तात्या, मानसिंह आदि प्रसिद्ध डाकू यहीं के निवासी थे । हमारे चरितनायक पं० रामप्रसाद जी बिस्मिल के पूर्व वंशज इन्हीं गांवों के निवासी थे । इन के दादा जी अमानसिंह, समानसिंह और नारायणसिंह - ये तीनों सगे भाई थे और तोमर राजपूत ठाकुर थे । बिस्मिल के दादा नारायणसिंह कौटुम्बिक कलह और अपनी भाभी के असह्य दुर्व्यवहार से तंग आकर अपनी पत्नी और दो बेटों सहित घर से निकल गए और शाहजहांपुर आकर बस गए । यहां आकर उन्होंने अपना नाम 'नारायणलाल' बदल लिया और अपने आप को ब्राह्मण जाति का बताया । गुजारा करने के लिए उन्होंने कुछ ब्राह्मणवृत्ति भी की, एक गाय भी पाल रखी थे और वहां शाहजहांपुर में "गैया वाले पण्डित जी" कहलाने लगे । मरते समय भी उन्होंने घर में गाय पालने का ही आदेश दिया था ।

इस तरह से रामप्रसाद बिस्मिल 'तोमर' राजपूत थे, ब्राह्मण नहीं - जैसा कि विश्वास किया जाता है । 'तोमर' जाटों का बहुत पुराना गोत्र है । कुछ तोमर लोग जो बाद में पंडितों के बहकावे में आकर वैदिक धर्म से हटकर मूर्तिपूजा आदि में फंस गए, अपने को 'राजपूत' कहने लगे ।

हम इसी नतीजे पर पहुंचते हैं कि रामप्रसाद बिस्मिल भी 'तोमर' जाट ही थे, बेशक उनके बुजुर्गों ने अपना गुजारा करने के लिए कई पेशे अपनाये होंगे ।
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dkumars
April 7th, 2008, 12:46 PM
इस तरह से रामप्रसाद बिस्मिल 'तोमर' राजपूत थे, ब्राह्मण नहीं - जैसा कि विश्वास किया जाता है । 'तोमर' जाटों का बहुत पुराना गोत्र है । कुछ तोमर लोग जो बाद में पंडितों के बहकावे में आकर वैदिक धर्म से हटकर मूर्तिपूजा आदि में फंस गए, अपने को 'राजपूत' कहने लगे ।

हम इसी नतीजे पर पहुंचते हैं कि रामप्रसाद बिस्मिल भी 'तोमर' जाट ही थे, बेशक उनके बुजुर्गों ने अपना गुजारा करने के लिए कई पेशे अपनाये होंगे ।
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Clear kariye doubt maharaj ... samajh nahi aaya ... Khair waise kya fark padta hai ki Bilmil Jaat the ya brahmin ??? Woh ek sachhe deshbhakt the ... ye kehna jayada sahi hoga mere hisaab se... jaat brahmin hone se kya fark padta hai ... aisa hai toh Chandershekhar Aajaad kya the ???

No offence ... juss a simple comment what i felt:)

dndeswal
April 7th, 2008, 07:45 PM
Clear kariye doubt maharaj ... samajh nahi aaya ... Khair waise kya fark padta hai ki Bilmil Jaat the ya brahmin ??? Woh ek sachhe deshbhakt the ... ye kehna jayada sahi hoga mere hisaab se... jaat brahmin hone se kya fark padta hai ... aisa hai toh Chandershekhar Aajaad kya the ???

No offence ... juss a simple comment what i felt:)

बता तो दिया देवेन्द्र महाराज - रामप्रसाद (जो अपना 'nick-name' 'बिस्मिल' लिखता था), 'तोमर' गोत्र वाला था - अब कुछ भी समझ लो - राजपूत या जाट ।
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raka
May 1st, 2008, 10:46 PM
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Jatland’s Wiki Section Books on Jat History (http://www.jatland.com/home/Books_on_Jat_History) now contains text of a rare book connected with the freedom movement of India - The Autobiography of Ramprasad ‘Bismil’. This book was in fact banned by British Raj in India immediately after its first edition was out some time in 1930 or so. The book, however, was published after Independence by some Arya Samaj outfits, including by Haryana Sahitya Sansthan, Gurukul Jhajjar (Haryana).


Many of us have heard about Ramprasad Bismil but know very little about him. Bismil was the great freedom fighter and poet who also wrote the famous tarana (song) – Sarfaroshi ki Tamanna (सरफ़रोशी की तमन्ना अब हमारे दिल में है ). Perhaps no other song, with the exception of Bankim Chandra's Vande Matram, induced so many young men to lay down their lives for the motherland than this song written by Ram Prasad Bismil.


This great son of India was hanged to death by British Raj on 19 December 1927 inside Gorakhpur Jail. Bismil wrote his autobiography (in Hindi) in his prison-cell. Please read its full text on the following link of Jatland Wiki:

रामप्रसाद 'बिस्मिल' की आत्मकथा (http://www.jatland.com/home/%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%8D%E0%A 4%B0%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A6_%27%E0%A4%AC%E0%A4 %BF%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B2%2 7_%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%80_%E0%A4%86%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8D%E 0%A4%AE%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%A5%E0%A4%BE)


The electronic text of the book was prepared by me and posted here, as a gift to Jatland.com. Let us remember Ramprasad Bismil, the great martyr, on his 80th death anniversary, by going through his autobiography which also provides some glimpse of the history of freedom movement.
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sir,kya Bismilji jat the.

dndeswal
May 2nd, 2008, 04:49 AM
sir,kya Bismilji jat the.

Yes - Please see the clarification in Post No. 29.

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amiteshv
May 4th, 2008, 12:10 AM
na, sirji manne Tomer got ka brahmin meri zindagi me koni thyaya. isse hi mor, sibi nam ka rajput koni thyaya. halanki sikke mor sibiya jaton ke milte hain jittore/chittore me.

in teeno gaon ko top se udane ki agya di thi, gwalior naresh ne jin me bismil rhyaya kare tha. khud bismil bolya kare tha apni auto bio-graphy me..ukk yahan chambal ke niwasi bade hi udandd the bhai..

manne kuchh yad sya aawe sse, udde nne koi discovery channel is gwalior fort ne ko ni criticise kare, per teoti-huaccan nne kare sse.

amiteshv
May 4th, 2008, 12:14 AM
the moment I entered this fort I could realize that this fort is as ancient as allahabad fort of asoka and his pillar inscription all built by Jats.

amiteshv
May 4th, 2008, 12:23 AM
rigveda mentions brahmans as one of the 16 royal clans of Jats n not aryans, who as history says manipulated all laws in their favour. but when these brahm(an) returned back to their original indo-gangetic plain to teach Jats sermons of hindu/aryan culture Jats re-buffed him. Oe kahan se aa kar kahan kisi original Jat ko kya theory, Jat/got ki sikha raha hai..

Jat then treated brahman as another person living in village like nai...or another service provider for marriages...nowhere in indo gangetic plain/india brahmin was treated like this on merits...

dndeswal
June 7th, 2008, 04:32 PM
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Here is a short extract from the book ”Modern India”, a history text book for Class XII, written by Communist historian Bipin Chandra and published by National Council of Educational Research and Training (NCERT) (April 1990 Edition, pages 240-242). At many places, the word ”terrorist” has been used for our freedom fighters like Bismil and Bhagat Singh.

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Another reflection of the new mood was the growing activity of the revolutionary terrorist movement which too was begnning to take a socialist turn. The failure of the First Non-Cooperation Movement had led to the revival of the revolutionary movement. After an all India Conference, the Hindustan Republican Association was founded in October 1924 to organise an armed revolution. The Government struck at it by arresting a large number of terrorist youth and trying them in the Kakori Conspircy Case (1925). Seventeen were sentenced to long terms of imprisonment, four were transported for life, and four, including Ram Prasad Bismil and Ashfaqulla, were hanged. The terrorists soon came under the influence of socialist ideas, and in 1928, under the leadership of Chandra Shekhar Azad, changed the name of their organisation to the Hindustan Socialist Republican Association (HSRA).


They also gradually began to move away from the individual heroic action and terrorism. But the brutal lathi-charge on an anti-Simon Commission demonstration on 30 October 1928 led to a sudden change. The great Punjabi leader Lala Lajpat Rai died as a result of the lathi blows. This enraged the youth and, on 17 December 1928, Bhagat Singh, Azad and Rajguru assassinated Saunders, the British police officers who had led the lathi charge.


In Bengal too, revolutionary terrorist activities were revived. In April 1930, a well-planned and large-scale armed raid was organised on the government armoury at Chittagong under the leadership of Surya Sen. This was the first of many attacks on unpopular government officials. A remarkable aspect of the terrorist movement in Bengal was the participation of young women. The Chittagong revolutionaries marked a major advance. Theirs was not an individual action but a group action aimed at the organs of the colonial state.


The government struck hard at the revolutionary terrorists. Many of them were arrested and tried in a series of famous cases. Bhagat Singh and a few others were also tried for the assassination of Saunders.

Bhagat Singh defined socialism in a scientific manner – it meant the abolition of capitalism and class domination. He also made it clear that much before 1930 he and his comrades had abandoned terrorism. In his last policital testament, written on 2 February 1931, he declared: ”Apparently, I have acted like a terrorist. But am not a terrorist. ...Let me announce with the all the strength at my command that I am not a terrorist and I never was, except perhaps in the beginning of my revolutionary career. And I am convinced that we cannot gain anything through those methods”.


The revolutionary terrorist movement soon abated though stray activities were carried on for several years more. Chandra Shekhar Azad was killed in a shooting encounter with the police in a public park, later renamed Azad Park, at Allahabad in February 1931. Surya Sen was arrested in February 1933 and hanged soon after. Hundreds of other revolutionaries were arrested and sentenced to varying terms of imprisonment, some being sent in Cellular Jail in the Andamans.


Thus, a new political situation was beginning to arise by the end of the twenties. Writing of these years, Lord Irwin, the Viceroy, recalled later that ”some new force was working of which even those whose knowledge of India went back for 20 or 30 years, had not yet learnt the full significance”. The government was determined to suppress this new trend. As we have seen, the terrorists were suppressed with ferocity.


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