Gujjars Demand not Valid - Chopra commission

[jitendershooda]

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According to the report, the Gujjar community does not fulfil the criteria required for granting of ST status. These include primitiveness of culture, permanent shelters in the forests, untouchability, a feeling of being inferior in society, unique traditions, polygamy and backwardness. The commission said it would not be possible for it to recommend ST status for Gujjars as the statistical data of the community’s socio-economic conditions do not merit granting of such a status.

Are the Meena's still meet these ST conditions? Shouldnt they also be re-visited and altered? Inki ye dadalai kyon bana di gai hai?

[jitender_singh]

Jietnder Bhai sahee kaha..
par yeh dikkat toh har caste ke saath ho rahe hai..
haryana main gujjar,yadav aur jat ka social status same hai..
par reservation sirf yaadvon aur gujaron ke paas hai..


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According to the report, the Gujjar community does not fulfil the criteria required for granting of ST status. These include primitiveness of culture, permanent shelters in the forests, untouchability, a feeling of being inferior in society, unique traditions, polygamy and backwardness. The commission said it would not be possible for it to recommend ST status for Gujjars as the statistical data of the community’s socio-economic conditions do not merit granting of such a status.

Are the Meena's still meet these ST conditions? Shouldnt they also be re-visited and altered? Inki ye dadalai kyon bana di gai hai?

[mukeshkumar007]

Gujarr deserve ST status.. if we analyse the ground reality anyone can conclude it..meena are far ahead than gujar in all aspects.. meena community has been getting the full benefit of ST status so far...gujarr can't be deprived of this right.. if this reservation system is to be continue then i think gujar must be included in ST..

anyway to get rid off this system why don't govt. think to give reservation to all communities

[crsnadar]

Deserve karte ho ya na karte ho..

..But agar Gurjro ko ST ka benefit mil jaata to ek bahut hi Galat...balki har tarah se ek galat message pure India ko jaata.

wo hota Violence ka..
Yaani ke HINSA ka..
It would meant for ki "Hinsa karo, updrav failao, khoon bahao aur Aarakshan lo"
Jo ki shayad bahut galat hota.

So uvval to wo deserve hi nahi karte "Comparatively" aur dusre agar deserve karte bhi hote to is tarah Khoon bahakar Reservation pana ek bahut hi ganda chapter add kar deta puri Reservation History ke saath.

Waise to ye Reservation hai hi musibat ki jad..

[jitendershooda]

Gujarr deserve ST status.. if we analyse the ground reality anyone can conclude it..meena are far ahead than gujar in all aspects.. meena community has been getting the full benefit of ST status so far...gujarr can't be deprived of this right.. if this reservation system is to be continue then i think gujar must be included in ST..

anyway to get rid off this system why don't govt. think to give reservation to all communities

Yes Mukesh, you are right at present day these Meena's are much much prosperous and they are nothing to do with this ST status now. Each year so many IAS/IPS officers are meenas, wherever you go in railways you will find meenas and you can better tell for the local govt. offices.

http://www.financialexpress.com/news/Gujjar-report-Centre-Rajasthan-passing-the/252136/

‘‘The criteria for determining ST status, outlined by the Lokur Committee, have become outdated and obsolete. The government has also admitted this fact in the draft Tribal Policy, 2006,’’ he said.

These rotten methods and policies should be changed. Er Rahul Nadar bhai this is the way only by which Indian govt. can think of anything these days. Though idealy speaking you are right but perhaps if they have gone for the silent compaign they wouldnt have got anything. Now the state and centre govts are alarmed and will be giving them something certainly.

Example of the silent march was:
http://209.85.175.104/search?hl=en&gl=in&q=231+days+satyagraha+to+delhi

what they have acheived?

[mukeshkumar007]

So uvval to wo deserve hi nahi karte "Comparatively" aur dusre agar deserve karte bhi hote to is tarah Khoon bahakar Reservation pana ek bahut hi ganda chapter add kar deta puri Reservation History ke saath.

Waise to ye Reservation hai hi musibat ki jad..

bhai .. konsi history ki baat kar rye hai tu.. manta hoo ki unka tarika galat tha lakin unki demand bilkul galat nai hai... aur shant tarike se yeh meena jinhone pure administration ko kabje maie kar rakha hai inki awaj tak nai niklne dete..
koi na sunta... aur itna kuch karne ke baad maie bi siway kameti ke kye milya..

aur bhai maine bera na the konse gujaro ko dekhe hai..maine to jitne dekhe hai unki halat to in meeno se badatar hi hai.. ab yeh ST in meeno ki hi koi wo jyadad thodi hai .. agar gujar deserve nai karte to in meeno ko bi nikal ke faiko behar..

yeh reservation issue ib bashmasur ho liya hai.. kati nash kar ke chodega ib.. ib goverment ke gale ki faas ban ki rehgya..bhalai to isi maie hi ki sabi ko reservation hata do aur .. economic condition ke hisab se de do reservation..

[netrapalsingh]

koi mujhe batyega meena cast kis state me jyada hai? kam se kam rajasthaan kee history to mai bata saktaa hoo. Rajasthaan me meene to prakaar ke thee ek kheteehar meena or dusree bheel meena khetee har meena khetee karte the shuru see hee or kafee sampann bhee the or hai. Par bhee meene janglo me ghoomte the or choree dakitee hee unkaa mukhya pesha tha. Or ST me ye bheel meene hee shamil hone the par kheteeharo ne apne viksit dimak ka fayda uthate hooe khud ST me shamil ho gaye or raj kar rahe hai
kam se kam rajasthn me to.

rahee bat gujro kee to gujar to suru se hee ghoomakd the. or bhed bakree ke bade bade revad rakhte the 20-pachis salo se kuch gujjar yaha waha bas gaye.

Rajasthaan me Sawayeemadhopur, Kota-Bundee, Tonk jaise kai district aise hai jaha meena cast ka aaj bhee bahomat hai. Jbakkee gujjar milenge to har jagah par bahut kam tadaat me ek bhee district aisaa nahi jai jaha gujro ka bolbal ho

Rahee bat Chopda kamette ke repor kee to wah pahale gujjro ke pakh me likhee gayee thee parantoo meena rajneete me unkee afsaree pakad ke kaarn report meenao ke pakh me ho gayee.

netra....

[amiteshv]

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According to the report, the Gujjar community does not fulfil the criteria required for granting of ST status. These include primitiveness of culture, permanent shelters in the forests, untouchability, a feeling of being inferior in society, unique traditions, polygamy and backwardness. The commission said it would not be possible for it to recommend ST status for Gujjars as the statistical data of the community’s socio-economic conditions do not merit granting of such a status.

Are the Meena's still meet these ST conditions? Shouldnt they also be re-visited and altered? Inki ye dadalai kyon bana di gai hai?

rre jat khudao, kuchh apne bare me bhi soch liya kryo. ukk thumm reserbesan tte bahr kukkad likkad phenk rakhye syo, aa bhi OBC te.

thumm tte bhai OBC ke pahle haqdar syo.

sravan kumar ka dimagh phir gya tha bhai

ek te Haryana (rohtak) me aur ek UP (meerut) me, aur mhare pnjabi (dar ji) bhai bhi koni samjhe is baat nne