Maps on Jatland

[lrburdak]

It is very necessary to have maps of various Jat areas to link with the articles on Jatland Wiki. We are thankful to

Mr sanjeetsparp

Who has uploaded Updated map of Haryana. This map has been put in the article on Haryana. Members may see it here

http://www.jatland.com/home/Haryana

Haryana page now has become well formated and informative.

Regards,

[snandal1]

good idea. however, wd've appreciated if clan wise jat villages with their population density could be traced on map. its possible now with pie n bar charts. lets reduce all such maps like that of Haryana to Jat villages and their agricultural and social boundaries.:)

[snandal1]

rama yaad karta hai krishna yaad karta hai. mahmud gaznavi yaadd karta hai. jat was married to his land:)

[snandal1]

bedardi deswal i'l sing u. :):)

[snandal1]

vo naujhil in central asia ....vo kirnon ki barsaten...:)

[dndeswal]

bedardi deswal i'l sing u. :):)


कुछ समझ में नहीं आया भाई, क्या कह रहे हो और किसको ।

एक असली हरयाणा का नक्शा और हरयाणा का इतिहास जल्दी ही यहीं पोस्ट करूंगा - wiki पर ।

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[snandal1]

Sir I'm heartedly emotionally thanking you for promptly sending the song to me "Bedardi balma tujh ko mera man yaad karta hai". I'm singer and was desperate for this song.

But sometimes I seriously think that this Indo-Ganges-chambal land is itself the origin of Jats over the world. It lies in the centre of Indo-eurpean culture. The system was perhaps the gradual evolution through various gatherings/panchayats etc. over a long period. They could expand westwards out of India more because the jungles were not as thick as they were on ganges towards east. And Iron was not known to Jats till about 800 BC. And even today population of Indian sub-continent is quite comparable to the whole europe and central asia added togather. Though to and fro migrations from india to outside and vice versa continued.

however, hats off to your original serious and genious versatile pain taking efforts.

[dndeswal]

But sometimes I seriously think that this Indo-Ganges-chambal land is itself the origin of Jats over the world. It lies in the centre of Indo-eurpean culture. The system was perhaps the gradual evolution through various gatherings/panchayats etc. over a long period. They could expand westwards out of India more because the jungles were not as thick as they were on ganges towards east. And Iron was not known to Jats till about 800 BC. And even today population of Indian sub-continent is quite comparable to the whole europe and central asia added togather. Though to and fro migrations from india to outside and vice versa continued.



This land of Shiva (Haryana) is more ancient than we think. There persists a confusion about word 'Shiva' who was not a pouranik character, but was a powerful king whose kingdom stretched from Hardwar to Badayun to beyond Agra, today's Haryana province and most of eastern Rajasthan - the real Jatland where river Yamuna was in the centre. Vedvyas belonged to this state. He did not forget to mention about Rohtak in "Sabha Parva" of Mahabharat :



<CENTER>ततो बहुधनं रम्यं गवाढ्यं धनधान्यवत् ।
कार्तिकेयस्य दयितं रोहितकमुपाद्रवत् ॥

</CENTER>
Means - कार्तिकेय की प्रियनगरी रोहतक बहुत धनवाली, अति रमणीय, गौओं से परिपूर्ण और धन-धान्य से भरपूर है ।

(http://www.jatland.com/home/Sabha_Parva_in_Sanskrit)

It is also a total myth that Rohtak is named after Harishchandra's son Rohtash and was known as 'Rohtasgarh'. Rohtak is an ancient city of pre-Mahabharata period.

Britishers took revenge from the brave Jat people who were the first to fight against them in 1857. After this event, they bifurcated the state - Delhi was separated, eastern part was merged with Avadh province (which was renamed United Provinces). Thousands of Jats were sent to Kala Pani. Other areas of Haryana were merged with Punjab. Move was to eliminate Haryana by the Britishers.
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[snandal1]

aa ek bappa syam rao hoya karta tha. o indravesh us ke paachhe paache chaalle kare tha par kati charan ka ka pucca bhagat bhai:)

[snandal1]

katore jaisa aakaar hai is dharti ka. rohtak wali ka sarA PANI le de ke sub rohtak me aa leta hai. us me jat ki kuchh phasal ho jati hai aur vo apni muunchhon pe do char ante de leta hai:)

[snandal1]

This land of Shiva (Haryana) is more ancient than we think. There persists a confusion about word 'Shiva' who was not a pouranik character, but was a powerful king whose kingdom stretched from Hardwar to Badayun to beyond Agra, today's Haryana province and most of eastern Rajasthan - the real Jatland where river Yamuna was in the centre. Vedvyas belonged to this state. He did not forget to mention about Rohtak in "Sabha Parva" of Mahabharat :




<CENTER>ततो बहुधनं रम्यं गवाढ्यं धनधान्यवत् ।
कार्तिकेयस्य दयितं रोहितकमुपाद्रवत् ॥

</CENTER>
Means - कार्तिकेय की प्रियनगरी रोहतक बहुत धनवाली, अति रमणीय, गौओं से परिपूर्ण और धन-धान्य से भरपूर है ।

(http://www.jatland.com/home/Sabha_Parva_in_Sanskrit)

It is also a total myth that Rohtak is named after Harishchandra's son Rohtash and was known as 'Rohtasgarh'. Rohtak is an ancient city of pre-Mahabharata period.

Britishers took revenge from the brave Jat people who were the first to fight against them in 1857. After this event, they bifurcated the state - Delhi was separated, eastern part was merged with Avadh province (which was renamed United Provinces). Thousands of Jats were sent to Kala Pani. Other areas of Haryana were merged with Punjab. Move was to eliminate Haryana by the Britishers.
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its again a myth that jat did not care of his parents. sravan kumar himself was a jat. whom dasrath killed by mistake but the was never paedoned by his parents...

[vijay]

It is very necessary to have maps of various Jat areas to link with the articles on Jatland Wiki. We are thankful to

Mr sanjeetsparp

Who has uploaded Updated map of Haryana. This map has been put in the article on Haryana. Members may see it here

http://www.jatland.com/home/Haryana

Haryana page now has become well formated and informative.

Regards,

And we should be more precise ......... i mean districtwise too .... i am attaching here map of Sirsa District ...... please organize this ....... where it should be placed :)

[dndeswal]

aa ek bappa syam rao hoya karta tha. o indravesh us ke paachhe paache chaalle kare tha par kati charan ka ka pucca bhagat bhai:)


That Shyam Rao is now known as Swamy Agnivesh. Hope you must have heard and known about him.

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[lrburdak]

Rohtak and Sirsa are Ancient towns

Reproduced from http://www.jatland.com/home/Sabha_Parva_in_English#Book_2:_Sabha_Parva_SECTION _XXXI
Book 2: Sabha Parva SECTION XXXI

Vaisampayana said,--"I shall now recite to you the deeds and triumphs of Nakula, and how that exalted one conquered the direction that had once been subjugated by Vasudeva. The intelligent Nakula, surrounded by a large host, set out from Khandavaprastha for the west, making this earth tremble with the shouts and the leonine roars of the warriors and the deep rattle of chariot wheels. And the hero first assailed the mountainous country called Rohitaka (Rohtak) that was dear unto (the celestial generalissimo) Kartikeya and which was delightful and prosperous and full of kine and every kind of wealth and produce. And the encounter the son of Pandu had with the Mattamyurakas of that country was fierce. And the illustrious Nakula after this, subjugated the whole of the desert country and the region known as Sairishaka (Sirsa) full of plenty, as also that other one called Mahetta. And the hero had a fierce encounter with the royal sage Akrosa. And the son of Pandu left that part of the country having subjugated the Dasarnas, the Sivis, the Trigartas, the Amvashtas, the Malavas, the five tribes of the Karnatas, and those twice born classes that were called the Madhyamakeyas and Vattadhanas. And making circuitous journey that bull among men then conquered the (Mlechcha) tribes called the Utsava-sanketas. And the illustrious hero soon brought under subjection the

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mighty Gramaniya that dwelt on the shore of the sea, and the Sudras and the Abhiras that dwelt on the banks of the Saraswati, and all those tribes that lived upon fisheries, and those also that dwelt on the mountains, and the whole of the country called after the five rivers, and the mountains called Amara, and the country called Uttarayotisha and the city of Divyakutta and the tribe called Dwarapala. And the son of Pandu, by sheer force, reduced to subjection the Ramathas, the Harahunas, and various kings of the west. And while staying there Nakula sent. O Bharata, messengers unto Vasudeva. And Vasudeva with all the Yadavas accepted his sway. And the mighty hero, proceeding thence to Sakala, the city of the Madras, made his uncle Salya accept from affection the sway of the Pandavas. And, O monarch, the illustrious prince deserving the hospitality and entertainment at his uncle's hands, was well entertained by his uncle. And skilled in war, the prince, taking from Salya a large quantity of jewels and gems, left his kingdom. And the son of Pandu then reduced to subjection the fierce Mlechchas residing on the sea coast, as also the wild tribes of the Palhavas, the Kiratas, the Yavanas, and the Sakas. And having subjugated various monarchs, and making all of them pay tributes, Nakula that foremost of the Kurus, full of resources, retraced his way towards his own city. And, O king, so great was the treasure which Nakula brought that ten thousand camels could carry it with difficulty on their backs. And arriving at Indraprastha, the heroic and fortunate son of Madri presented the whole of that wealth unto Yudhishthira.

"Thus, O king, did Nakula subjugate the countries that lay to the west--the direction that is presided over by the god Varuna, and that had once before been subjugated by Vasudeva himself!"

[lrburdak]

Thanks Vijay for uploading Sirsa map. It has been added to Sirsa article on Jatland Wiki See here

http://www.jatland.com/home/Sirsa


And we should be more precise ......... i mean districtwise too .... i am attaching here map of Sirsa District ...... please organize this ....... where it should be placed :)

[lrburdak]

Sirsa is mentioned in Mahabharata Sabha Parva as under:

शैरीषकं महेच्छं च वशे चक्रे महाद्युतिः

शिबींस तरिगर्तान अम्बष्ठान मालवान पञ्च कर्पटान

You can see on Jatland Wiki here

http://www.jatland.com/home/Sabha_Parva_in_Sanskrit

[dndeswal]

Sirsa is mentioned in Mahabharata Sabha Parva as under:

शैरीषकं महेच्छं च वशे चक्रे महाद्युतिः

You can see on Jatland Wiki here

http://www.jatland.com/home/Sabha_Parva_in_Sanskrit

महाभारत में भी पाठभेद मिलता है । यह लाइन दूसरी जगह इस प्रकार है :
शैरीषकं महेत्थं च वशे चक्रे महाद्युति ।

Means : इस प्रदेश के मध्य स्थान शैरीषक (सिरसा) और महेत्थं (महम) आदि को उस तेजस्वी नकुल ने जीता ।

शैरीषक = सिरसा, महेत्थं = महम

महम और सिरसा भी महाभारत के जमाने से पहले के बसे हुए नगर हैं ।
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[snandal1]

That Shyam Rao is now known as Swamy Agnivesh. Hope you must have heard and known about him.

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balhara was mentioned as king of these rashtrakutas/marathas:), by arabian historians

[snandal1]

balhara is nowhere mentioned in maharashtra, though all gots/jats are mentioned there in plural sense, like antule/antil, kadke, phadke..:)

[vijay]

Burdak Ji

I have uploaded the maps and some content on most of the Districts of Haryana.

Somewhere i found hierarchy disorders during this updation .............. and so want to mention here so that you can rearrange them in correct manner :)


My updations and and where i found hierarchy disorders :


http://www.jatland.com/home/Faridabad (http://www.jatland.com/home/Faridabad)
http://www.jatland.com/home/Gurgaon (http://www.jatland.com/home/Gurgaon)
http://www.jatland.com/home/Jind (http://www.jatland.com/home/Jind)
http://www.jatland.com/home/Kaithal (http://www.jatland.com/home/Kaithal)
http://www.jatland.com/home/Kurukshetra (http://www.jatland.com/home/Kurukshetra)
http://www.jatland.com/home/Panipat (http://www.jatland.com/home/Panipat)
http://www.jatland.com/home/Rohtak (http://www.jatland.com/home/Rohtak)
http://www.jatland.com/home/Sonipat (http://www.jatland.com/home/Sonipat)

Hierarchy : Main Page (http://www.jatland.com/home/Main_Page) < Dharmpal Singh Dudee (http://www.jatland.com/home/Dharmpal_Singh_Dudee) < Haryana (http://www.jatland.com/home/Haryana) < X Districts

It seems fine :)



http://www.jatland.com/home/Haryana

It didn't had list of districts ..... i have updated ...... have a look



http://www.jatland.com/home/Ambala (http://www.jatland.com/home/Ambala)

Hierarchy : Main Page < Dharmpal Singh Dudee < Haryana < Churu < Ambala

PS : Ambala is in Haryana and Churu is in Rajasthan :)


http://www.jatland.com/home/Bhiwani (http://www.jatland.com/home/Bhiwani)

Hierarchy : Main Page < Dharmpal Singh Dudee < Bhiwani

PS : Bhiwani should be under Haryana section :)

http://www.jatland.com/home/Karnal (http://www.jatland.com/home/Karnal)
Hierarchy : Main Page < Places < Karnal

PS : seems wrong again :)

http://www.jatland.com/home/Mahendergarh (http://www.jatland.com/home/Mahendergarh)
Hierarchy : Main Page < Rajasthan < Takhar < Mahendergarh

PS : seems wrong again :)


http://www.jatland.com/home/Rewari (http://www.jatland.com/home/Rewari)
Hierarchy : Main Page < Rajasthan < Jakhar < Rewari

PS : seems wrong again :)

http://www.jatland.com/home/Yamunanagar (http://www.jatland.com/home/Yamunanagar)
Hierarchy : Main Page < Yamunanagar

PS : seems wrong again :)

[snandal1]

its excellent vijay...

[lrburdak]

Good Work Vijay !!!

Now we will arrange and format. As regards hierarchy disorders, it is generated by Wiki. It is not a problem. It indicates path of the way file was generated. We are doing entry at the end Back to... That will serve the purpose.

Regards,

[snandal1]

there deep down in deccan aurangzeb heard the fate of his turani general...he had little idea of the revolution that blowing right under the nose of mughal empire...around 1669...:)

[amiteshv]

sa:)kas were the most just people on earth...va jo mahakumbh ke mele laagya karte ujjain... me ... va jo... vikram.. betall... hoya ...sub... bhula.. diya... va ...jo kark/makar rekha chalya... karti...

[amiteshv]

aa koi kark/makar rekha chalye karti... mere.. vichar se ibbe bhi challe sse..us ke base pe do chyar era challe the...:)

[vijay]

sa:)kas were the most just people on earth...va jo mahakumbh ke mele laagya karte ujjain... me ... va jo... vikram.. betall... hoya ...sub... bhula.. diya... va ...jo kark/makar rekha chalya... karti...

I hope for the day when you will post something sabstancial and knowledgable for us ..................... otherwise these one liners doesn't make any sense ...............

Maybe you have a great knowledge about the History .......... share that with us in a positive manner .................. sarcasm is not the right way to interact ONLY

[amiteshv]

all those great eras were started by jts only. Jat emperors were fond of starting new eras like vikram, saka, gupta, harsha etc. ek manne bhull rya sse ukk asoka ka bhi koi corronasn hoya tha.

[amiteshv]

Ek Ajatsatru hoya kare tha magadh me. us ka bapu bimbisar hoye tha. Log us ka matlab hi nahin samajhte aaj tuk. He was satru of those people who were opposed to non-categorisation. Jats/gots categorised all people over the world at least in a land known as Indo-European which since times uknown still rules the world. Jat is a father of Indo-european languages/culture/race.

[amiteshv]

aaj taayeenn jat/got bache se is indo-european land pe. aur sub te jyada jat hi bachave se. ek aisi rup rekha banayee, ek aisa samaj/system banaya jise pichle 10000 sal se aaj tuk koi nahin hila paya hai...aur phir koi apne aap ko pure aryan/jat kahta rahe lekin pure aryan/jat aaj bhi vo hi hai jo ki world ki (na ki khali indian sub continent ki) most fertile dharti ka malik hai...Indus se ganges n chambal tuk.


halanki apne quadmon ke nisan Jat ne her jagah chhode indo-eurasian land pe, chhatison/hazaron jatiyan banayee jat ne..sub barabar...koi unchi nechi nahin...

[amiteshv]

In India at least Jat gave these two epics of Ramayna and Mahabharta to Indian culture...whom ... nobody can deny...

[amiteshv]

ek mahatma budh paidal dolya karta, 80 sal ka marya kusinagar me, udde nne gorakhpur te 80 km dur. aa bhi manne Jat ka hi avtar dikhe se. ek us ka disciple hoye karta Anand, katti pet disciple. Kuchh nue bole thya aa budha aapne chele tte, "Ukk hey anand jab tuk ye mall log apas me ladna nahin chhod dete, jub tuk in ka koi udhdhar nahin kar sakta hai". Kuchh issya hi bad me chhoturam bolye kare tha. Ukk "Murkh Jat ekk tte bolna jann lye tte ek apna satru pahchan lye" manne tte dono buzurg jatyan ki aadutt ke mare dikhen ssen.

[amiteshv]

in copper age civilisation just b4 the age of budha, just b4 the advent of iron by Jats, early aryan/Jat migrated towards east India in search of more waters for agriculture along the foothills of himalayas. thats why we see till today why republicanism flourished in north west india and the foot hills of himalayas.

[amiteshv]

the mouths of rivers along the foothills of himalayas were not very thick. and the jungles were not as thick as in the plains. Jats could manage it even without iron with copper implements.

[amiteshv]

All hilly tribes from tibet, kashmeer, himanchal, uttaranchal, nepal, resembling jat gots are the product of jats with the mongoloids during pre-iron culture

[amiteshv]

even punjab, haryana, rajasthan culture of Jats is pre-iron culture.

[amiteshv]

mahabharta is a pre-iron culture of Jats. Nowhere in mahabharta iron is seen anywhere..like daru is seen but no hukka is seen...

[sanjeetsparp]

Map ghane e aa liye ..... eb thoda data or de dyun soon manne apni thesis tahin ekettha kera tha...

Though it is not the Raw data which i have in my system at home .... will provide it also on the website.
The data here is of the year 2001 - 2004 under various aspects in forms of indicators ..... well thesis is quite heavy as i want to upload that also .... You can use it as the date is colleted from the Government Departments and Census of India.