iPhone or Samsung Instinct ?

[keshavdahiya]

we have been talking on and about phones and mobile technology for a while.....and some of us dont even know about all this when we talk all day.....yet we do a lott of bakar on phone.....personally speaking I dont like to talk on phone/mobile as much as I did a while ago.....this internet and mobile dependency has turned us merely into a crapp.....sittting all day doing nuthing productive, leading to what I call bumm soars....hoooking on to "n" no of social networks.........and chatting..hey did someone send me a scrap on Orkut....ooh i poked that gurl on FBook...did she respond.....suchaa waste...:o

Yet.....I m here to talk about the technology on our fingertips....lately I used my cell phone to connect to internet thru bluetooth.....anywhere anytime...credit goes to Airtel OFFICE....where u get unlimited internet usage by connecting to GPRS @ RS 500/monat...but hey wait...what the heck is GPRS....we are in a age where mobile operators and service providers and turning to EDGE (since 3-4 years) and even 3G now.....one of the players iPhone (AT & T formally cingular) soon will be out using 3G in May/June 2008.....besides Samsung Instinct has been usnig 3G already (which is sleeker than iPhone) has a much larger touchscreen (3.1 inch, 240x432 pixels) cheaper than iPhone, costs around $ 300...though not as kool as OSX operating system of using 2 fingers for zoom in/out.....and of course much less storage....uses sprint with $ 100 subscription......
but whats the point ?
...Is it really necessary to carry a laptop now....where you can get even faster browsing on our fingertips...anytime.....
Enhanced Data rates for GSM Evolution (EDGE) is nuthing much but generally 2.75G...and 3G is third generation of mobile phone standards....we just need to know that these technologies are meant to transfer the data packages wirelessly in a faster and efficient way, In nutshell...allows faster web browsing wirelessly
In terms of speed, 2.5G can offer Web access at a rate of between 144 and 384 kilobits per second, Verizon Wireless’s 3G, EV-DO Rev offers transmission rates of between 500 kilobits per second and 1.4 megabits per second....so if you want a video conference on phone....we are rite here in the "AGE"...

are we somewhere closer in India ??

[sumitsehrawat]

There is this famous joke in which a Sardarji digs earth tens of meters deep and happily claims to an American and a German saying...
"See here we found nothing...so India invented Wireless" [:)]!

Something of that sort...it amuses me still.

:)s,
Sumit


are we somewhere closer in India ??

[desijat]

are we somewhere closer in India ??

No we are not...

We have a base of 300 million mobile users in India, we will surpass American mobile base in april but still we have maximum number of call drop rates....:p

[anujgoliya]

Hi
I my previous assignment in Nokia siemens Networks we carried out the 3G demo for operator "Idea" in New Delhi. The thing is we still do not have many VAS based on 3G and chunk of user traffic is still voice. 3G is common here in APAC region but usage is still very low.

Regards
Anuj Goliya
Regional Manager - Asia Pacific
Harris Stratex Networks
Direct +632 8185111
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Email: anuj.goliya@hstx.com

[keshavdahiya]

New Nokia Tube 5800 soon out this summer..supposedly claimed to be a iPhone killer....not bad....its a Java enabled phone..dont know yet if it has Flash....but here is the link about the details...
http://www.palluxo.com/2008/04/13/nokia-tube-5800-a-closer-look-at-iphone-killer/

the only drawback i see here is the internal memo of about 140 MB which can be upgraded with micro/mini cards....but then OSX is unbeatable....
though its packed with quad-band (850/900/1800/1900Mhz), GSM/EDGE radio with 3G UMTS/HSDPA and TV-Out port for a wide-screen view. The touchscreen phone supports Bluetooth....where we can actually connect the phone to a big monitor...;)
lets see who turns up to be more reliable...:)

[sunitahooda]

I'm convinced that my NEXT mobile is gonna be I-phone....and u will bring it.....hope its not some chirpy trick u r paying to divert my mind from it:p well i colleague told the initial launched model had some technical flaws which have said to be taken care of....bt keep ur fingers crossed until u have one and use one;)

[desijat]

A sneak peak into Apple's plan for India:

IPhone is expected to hit Indian markets in Sep, 2008 with an average price of Rs. 26,000(Grey market currently is much cheaper)

Software 1.1.4 was supposed to be better but for Indian customers i guess it works the opposite way, i mean you can not recognise a number by stored name untill you have stored it with a pre-fix of +91 - 98xxxxxxxx, so i ended up storing all my contacts again to use so called upgraded software.

For all those who have an IPhone and want to upgrade to next level software also kindly note that your phone would be locked again after upgradation(contact me for unlocking).

And for those who are wasting thousands of Rs. on unlocking the phone, please contact me as it is absolutely free on net.

[keshavdahiya]

dude if you happen to lock the yr iPhone again thats no prob....the reason being Apple has a backup where it prompts you to restore back to factory settings......plus there are more cracks available for unlocked version then what apple offers for free.....

But have you tried unlocking it twice....what if the phone is screwed up on the second attempt....:eek:
anyway..try hackintosh.com or google out a lott of similar sites....u know what I am talking about....hehe

A sneak peak into Apple's plan for India:

IPhone is expected to hit Indian markets in Sep, 2008 with an average price of Rs. 26,000(Grey market currently is much cheaper)

Software 1.1.4 was supposed to be better but for Indian customers i guess it works the opposite way, i mean you can not recognise a number by stored name untill you have stored it with a pre-fix of +91 - 98xxxxxxxx, so i ended up storing all my contacts again to use so called upgraded software.

For all those who have an IPhone and want to upgrade to next level software also kindly note that your phone would be locked again after upgradation(contact me for unlocking).

And for those who are wasting thousands of Rs. on unlocking the phone, please contact me as it is absolutely free on net.

[satyeshwar]

Apple released a new iPhone today which is going to hit the markets on July 11th. They reduced the price to $199 for the 8 GB version and made it much faster and also added GPS support. The plethora of SDK applications are going to make it an instant favorite. I think Apple is now targetting the masses with the halved price and I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes ubiquitous now. I can not see any competitor today even though Google's android promises a lot of things. I am definitely going to buy one now. Who else is going to buy it now? Since they are coming out with Bharti telecom in India, I am sure that some of you are going to buy it as well. So who else and what do you think about it?

[vivekpannu]

iPhone or Samsung Instinct ?
Daac saab, koye saa e de dyo jo aapka jee kare
Raaaak aaaan:rock

[desijat]

:confused:Apple released a new iPhone today which is going to hit the markets on July 11th. They reduced the price to $199 for the 8 GB version and made it much faster and also added GPS support. The plethora of SDK applications are going to make it an instant favorite. I think Apple is now targetting the masses with the halved price and I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes ubiquitous now. I can not see any competitor today even though Google's android promises a lot of things. I am definitely going to buy one now. Who else is going to buy it now? Since they are coming out with Bharti telecom in India, I am sure that some of you are going to buy it as well. So who else and what do you think about it?

I feel so cheated for buying the older version :confused::confused:

[satyeshwar]

Bhai, that is always the case. You will never be able to buy the best and see it on top for long.

[sumitsehrawat]

Such a displeasure is so very common .... especially from the "Apple" consumers. he he he :)!

Innovation.... Catch 22 :)!

:confused:

I feel so cheated for buying the older version :confused::confused:

[yudhvirmor]

Apple released a new iPhone today which is going to hit the markets on July 11th. They reduced the price to $199 for theit as well. So who else and what do you think about it?

iPhone 2.0 sounds amazing. Its more look like a business phone, robust features and Apple is shooting down to planes with one missile. They are targeting Nokia and Blackberry. Price is really competitive and supports 3G networks also.

299 USD(Rs. 12000) price for 16 GB models sounds great and I think its a value for money. I am looking ahead to buy this phone in a near future

[keshavdahiya]

Apple released a new iPhone today which is going to hit the markets on July 11th. They reduced the price to $199 for the 8 GB version and made it much faster and also added GPS support. The plethora of SDK applications are going to make it an instant favorite. I think Apple is now targetting the masses with the halved price and I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes ubiquitous now. I can not see any competitor today even though Google's android promises a lot of things. I am definitely going to buy one now. Who else is going to buy it now? Since they are coming out with Bharti telecom in India, I am sure that some of you are going to buy it as well. So who else and what do you think about it?

satte did you forget to mention that the $199 tag is when u sign a 2 years contract with AT&T and then besides that NEW iPhone only has 3G technology for better browsing...nuthing more.......
I was more concerned about the FLASH if they wud have enabled one...
one more thing to add to it.....as Sumit Sehrawat said above....Apple is a scam, they entice u to use there tech and by the time u are done buying an inexpensive gadget you realise that you shud have waited for a better one :p ;)....though I have a personal penchant for MAC and products....but still I wud say "where there is a will there is a WAY"...so try various forums for the cracks...way to go...

[devdahiya]

Contract tu sign kar diye Kessu...mannei tei Phone-2 chehiye.........Thheek sei na..?

[satyeshwar]

We also have to pay 30 dollars per month with that AT&T contract and that's going to hurt a bit... I think that it's the biggest minus point, but still I am very attracted towards the phone just because I don't see any other phone with the same capabilities in the market.

[keshavdahiya]

thodei din mein apne hindustan mein bhi bikaan laag jyagga iPhone....with Bharti/Airtel.....jo yeh free fund ke admi hain.....yeh plz apni sewa khudd karein :D:D :p:p


Daac saab, koye saa e de dyo jo aapka jee kare
Raaaak aaaan:rock



Contract tu sign kar diye Kessu...mannei tei Phone-2 chehiye.........Thheek sei na..?


after going thru yesterdays' NewsPaper (Union-Tribune;San Diego)....Apple is planning to roll out iPhone is 22 countries and sign with 70 service providers....
plz follow the link http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontribune (http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20080610/news_1b10iphone.html)
In US market after buying an iPhone you wont be allowed to get outta an Apple store without signing a contract with AT&T.....now lets see how drastic this marketing strategy mite be.......looking at Apple stocks yesterday already down by 4 points

[sidchhikara]

My favorites are:
1) iPhone
2) Blackberry
3) Palm
4) Nokia

All Korean phones LG, Samsung are totally crap.... infact all their products are crappy. Their displays are horrible.

Motorola is also in the crappy category.

By the end of the day, its just a phone.... not very important.

[desijat]

Motorola is also in the crappy category.

.

:confused::confused:

Not only because i do Motorola's PR in India but i find their phones to be quite good in quality.


Imagine only a Motorola phone in India can offer you color sceen, FM, 2 GB Memory, Dictio., T9, Hinglish text all at a price below 2000.... and did i forget to mention 10 hrs of talk time?

Their new MOTOROKR E8 which won best phone award at CES Las Vegas is a classic phone and did i forget to mention MOTOMUSIC? (check motomusic ID)

See it yourself - http://musicindia.hellomoto.com/moto/home.aspx - over 350,000 songs

[sidchhikara]

:confused::confused:

Not only because i do Motorola's PR in India but i find their phones to be quite good in quality.


Imagine only a Motorola phone in India can offer you color sceen, FM, 2 GB Memory, Dictio., T9, Hinglish text all at a price below 2000.... and did i forget to mention 10 hrs of talk time?

Their new MOTOROKR E8 which won best phone award at CES Las Vegas is a classic phone and did i forget to mention MOTOMUSIC? (check motomusic ID)

See it yourself - http://musicindia.hellomoto.com/moto/home.aspx - over 350,000 songs

Man ..I had a Moto Razr .... The phone was slow .... I would sometime hang like windows ..... The display was nothing to talk about. It finally went bad after 12 months.
I mostly like the smart phones ... iphone and blackberrys. They have excellent displays and tons of features.

[d_dhankhar]

What u guys think about windows mobile (Pocket PC or Smartphones)

[martials]

:)Hi sid, i totally agree wid u bout dis damn motorazr........my fiance'got me one from Dubai & it begin to hang after say bout 3-4 months of usage......recently one of my frends bot the latest motorzr & he had to get d screen replaced.....and he's one guy who hardly uses his mobile.....not only did he had to get into the hassles of taking it to the company authorized showroom but had to also pay for the replacement........i must say dat d phone is not at all recommendble......Man ..I had a Moto Razr .... The phone was slow .... I would sometime hang like windows ..... The display was nothing to talk about. It finally went bad after 12 months.
I mostly like the smart phones ... iphone and blackberrys. They have excellent displays and tons of features.

[desijat]

Motorola phones hangs the least

Ever used N Series? those who have know what am i talking about. Phone hanging depends on usage as well.

By far, I would still say Motorola is best among mass market phones... they provide best phones at entry level which no one can compete

Nokia is all about quantity but not quality... remember battery case? I know most of the India telecom media who do phone reviews and form perceptions and the only reason they are pro-nokia is because of the way Nokia pampers them

Sony Ericsson is far far better than Nokia in many spaces

[keshavdahiya]

ok here goes Nokia:


They are user friendly...anyone wants to argue on tht ?
Nokia has huge line up of models almost 100
$9.5 billion in cash and practically no debt, so of course it can invest far more then the other competitors...
Nokia's global market share has climbed to 37% (seimens has market share below 1%)


Nokia makes money at the low end because of its superefficient supply-chain and manufacturing systems. keeps costs and complexity under control, Such practices pushed Nokia to the No. 1 spot this year in Boston consultancy annual survey of top supply-chain operators, ahead of logistics champions such as Toyota and walmart. (Motorola was a respectable No. 12 in the ranking, which was based in part on a poll of supply-chain executives.)

Moto just has a razor....nokia has wide range of N series, and many more to come.....

but wait a min...are we talking about NOKIA< MOTO or the super phones......iPhone...:)

[maniisha]

ok here goes Nokia:


They are user friendly...anyone wants to argue on tht ?
Nokia has huge line up of models almost 100
$9.5 billion in cash and practically no debt, so of course it can invest far more then the other competitors...
Nokia's global market share has climbed to 37% (seimens has market share below 1%)
Nokia makes money at the low end because of its superefficient supply-chain and manufacturing systems. keeps costs and complexity under control, Such practices pushed Nokia to the No. 1 spot this year in Boston consultancy annual survey of top supply-chain operators, ahead of logistics champions such as Toyota and walmart. (Motorola was a respectable No. 12 in the ranking, which was based in part on a poll of supply-chain executives.)

Moto just has a razor....nokia has wide range of N series, and many more to come.....

but wait a min...are we talking about NOKIA< MOTO or the super phones......iPhone...:)



So wht abt ASUS ?

[sumitteotia]

i have gone thru the complete thread ...n thats strange...nobody talks abt the sony ericsson....:D
welll iphone is getting too much publicity...by the way its just the publicity actually the phone was not that good enough to hit the market...may be u can say dont have enough features...which most of the mobile companies is going to hit the market soon ;)...top secret...

sony ericsson is going to launch a phone with a high mega pixel camera which no one can expect...and along with that much more to come...its just the start....


Regarding the data rates what some talked abt in the threads..that was i suppose u guys are speaking theoriticallly...actually thats not practical...

still not gone thru all the comments...:)

[desijat]

I blv Iphone is more about the hype than being a featuristic or furutristic phone.

LG and Samsung both launched their counterparts to Iphone, one i remember is LG Viewty which sucks badly

Sony Ericsson = One of the better phones i have used, easy to use, reliable, good battery and fast interface

[cooljat]

Ya bro, concur with the words very much ... Sony Ericsson is certainly the better phones as u stated.. :)

I've been using Sony K750i for more then 2 yrs and till nw nt a single issue; am very much satisfied!!

Rock on
Jit



Sony Ericsson = One of the better phones i have used, easy to use, reliable, good battery and fast interface

[keshavdahiya]

So wht abt ASUS ?

what about it...?? we are talking about the mob phones and devices which use a simport/card to call people.....ASUS is a chinese/taiwanese corp which manufactures hardware....and small PCs....

that way Nokia also has a internet tablet .... Nokia 770, N800 and now N810....

[maniisha]

what about it...?? we are talking about the mob phones and devices which use a simport/card to call people.....ASUS is a chinese/taiwanese corp which manufactures hardware....and small PCs....

that way Nokia also has a internet tablet .... Nokia 770, N800 and now N810....

Yep Keshav ..
Even Asus Technology has launched advanced mobile phones also .. :)

[sumitteotia]

wait guys......bfore buying an expensive iphone....
sony ericsson XPERIA is on its way ..and soon its going to hit the market...and to me thats a classic phone with features and good performance....
just google it...

think think think bfore buying ;)

also in the coming year...can u beleive we can get 8/10 megapixel camera phone..:cool:

[coolphool]

Well I am sure there are some telecom/electrical engineers here who would tell you that the actual cellphone is in the form of a chip that is the size of your fingertip. Once that chip is embedded into a smart device like a PDA, the device can be double up as a phone and a handheld computer. I have seen instances of people installing phones on their IPOD touch. It is a small chip that is made by QUalcomm technologies (there are others manufacturers too) that has to be sourced from someone in the telecom industry as they do not retail these chips at a consuemr level.

[sumitsehrawat]

Can I say ... "Don't buy XPERIA also because 'then' again some other better product would be in offering"?? One cannot live like that else one might end up buying nothing and just waiting endlessly for a super-rich-featured phone at a pencil's price. Mobile technology innovation is an example of fast diffusion. I still own a Nokia 2100...but the reason for such a vague attachment is more emotional and not being a laggard in adopting innovation.

Another question ... how do you measure performance? As per you the phone is not yet in market. How was its performance measured then? As far as I remember sometime in Feb 2008 XPERIA X1 was launched in Barcelona.

These electronic jewels, for sure, can make us say "Lene waala bhi roye aur na lene waala bhi roye"

Thanks... :)!

wait guys......bfore buying an expensive iphone....
sony ericsson XPERIA is on its way ..and soon its going to hit the market...and to me thats a classic phone with features and good performance....
just google it...

think think think bfore buying ;)

also in the coming year...can u beleive we can get 8/10 megapixel camera phone..:cool:

[sumitteotia]

hiyaaa sumit....welll i m in ericsson ;)....that says evrything....:)

even i know abt most of the phones performance....actually i m into that area (development+testing).....

for example i waanna tell u guys abt NOKIA N95...though it has many features...but it has failed in the basic functionallity of CALL HANDLING...most of the people are not aware of the "call drop" in Nokia N95 but its there....people will never come to know...that someone have called them...most of the people may already faced this problem.




Another question ... how do you measure performance? As per you the phone is not yet in market. How was its performance measured then? As far as I remember sometime in Feb 2008 XPERIA X1 was launched in Barcelona.


Thanks... :)!

[sumitsehrawat]

Ericsson...well I had already guessed when I saw 'Sweden' as location in your profile... hehehe:)!
Knowing this... can I still expect you to share the negatives of XPERIA?

hiyaaa sumit....welll i m in ericsson ;)....that says evrything....:)
.

[sumitteotia]

negatives of XPERIA ...what i can say is that its lil bit thick..and thats beacuse due to the sliding qwerty keypad....also the colors


Ericsson...well I had already guessed when I saw 'Sweden' as location in your profile... hehehe:)!
Knowing this... can I still expect you to share the negatives of XPERIA?

[deepshi]

right said
its a hype,,will fade away
Sony is bestI blv Iphone is more about the hype than being a featuristic or furutristic phone.

LG and Samsung both launched their counterparts to Iphone, one i remember is LG Viewty which sucks badly

Sony Ericsson = One of the better phones i have used, easy to use, reliable, good battery and fast interface

[naveenbazad]

i think what ppl are confusing with what they are using and what the phone is capable of ....

some people use pda but dont want to have internet as internet facility is every where home , office etc so why to spent $30 per month extra for that ...

if u have internet facilty on iphone then i think it works really cool with nice screen and easy to use though i dont find blackberry much impressive .. only thing is querty key board....
ppl delete the internet facility and starts comparing ...

other phones i think so are not comparable also ...

so its laptop think one which costs $1800 around .. once u see and feel then one can tell whats the difference ... beleive me there is and thats worth ....

not everybody can afford apple things as they r on high end whereas all other things can be owned by every and now then person

My favorites are:
1) iPhone
2) Blackberry
3) Palm
4) Nokia

All Korean phones LG, Samsung are totally crap.... infact all their products are crappy. Their displays are horrible.

Motorola is also in the crappy category.

By the end of the day, its just a phone.... not very important.

[shailendra]

...well, Use it and you shall see what the talk is all about... (it is like driving a Mercedes for the first time after have wondered why the hype when it's just another car after all!)

[sumitteotia]

well shailendra i agree with u...but only to those I-phone rocks...who can make use of the online streaming on a big screen

but overall i dont think so u can make better use of I-phone in india.....yeah looks wise its cool :cool:.....

------
Sumit Teotia
...well, Use it and you shall see what the talk is all about... (it is like driving a Mercedes for the first time after have wondered why the hype when it's just another car after all!)