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desijat
January 16th, 2013, 10:15 AM
A PTI flash just came in...
Former Haryana CM Om Prakash Chautala, his son and 53 others convicted by Delhi court for illegal recruitment of over 3000 teachers.

A message to those who feel system or courts does not convict politicians.

vikda
January 16th, 2013, 01:37 PM
Good move, how ever it is yet to be seen how would it proceed.

And it is difficult to convict RULING politicians!!


A PTI flash just came in...
Former Haryana CM Om Prakash Chautala, his son and 53 others convicted by Delhi court for illegal recruitment of over 3000 teachers.

A message to those who feel system or courts does not convict politicians.

vikkisingh
January 16th, 2013, 01:42 PM
the evidence was very strong and clear.thats y almost all those charesheeted have been convicted

still the court took many years to arrive at the decision which is not a good thing for a growing decomacracy like ours
hoping more corrupt politicians are convicted

FOR THE GOOD OF COUNTRY

desijat
January 16th, 2013, 07:53 PM
The father and son will be housed in the same cell in jail number 4 of Tihar, where Congress leader Suresh Kalmadi had stayed till recently.

So not only they took away away IOC from Kalmadi but also his cell at Tihar.

jaisingh318
January 16th, 2013, 09:01 PM
The father and son will be housed in the same cell in jail number 4 of Tihar, where Congress leader Suresh Kalmadi had stayed till recently.

So not only they took away away IOC from Kalmadi but also his cell at Tihar.
agar party workers ko job de bhi h to kya galat h......
ha abb pakka kar diya ki haryana m agli sarkar inld ki hogi or robert vedera bhondsi jail m hoga.

vikasJAT
January 16th, 2013, 09:51 PM
Bhai jab INLD gayi to usne jate jate POLICE me bot sare bharti kare the.aur vo bharti industrial security k liye thi (aisa he kuch tha, google pe search maro to detail b mil jagi).....yu b fraud thi.
Hooda ne aate he vo sare hata diye......bot se bhaiya k to rishte b tootge.......unka case aaj tak court me hai......ab tak koi decision ni.

Is case me b isa e hoga ki kuch din baad sab bhul jange aur case jali jaga court me, tab tak chautala maar lega.......fir case apne aap close.

desijat
January 16th, 2013, 10:28 PM
Aisa hi UP main hua, Mayawati aur Mulayam ki ladai main kitne police walo ke rishte tute wo hi jante hai


Bhai jab INLD gayi to usne jate jate POLICE me bot sare bharti kare the.aur vo bharti industrial security k liye thi (aisa he kuch tha, google pe search maro to detail b mil jagi).....yu b fraud thi.
Hooda ne aate he vo sare hata diye......bot se bhaiya k to rishte b tootge.......unka case aaj tak court me hai......ab tak koi decision ni.

Is case me b isa e hoga ki kuch din baad sab bhul jange aur case jali jaga court me, tab tak chautala maar lega.......fir case apne aap close.

rinkusheoran
January 17th, 2013, 01:57 AM
It is welcome decision by court but i get surprised when PM is not held accountable in 2G/coal gate or delhi CM in commonwealth on the same basis as done here. Court said OP Chautala is directly an accused as everything was happening under his tutelage as he was CM when it happened so question is what happened in 2g or coal gate when PM was in charge or in common wealth in Delhi, are they(PM and Delhi CM) not in control? if yes they should be behind bars too and if not then they don't deserve to remain in their respective positions.

rinkusheoran
January 17th, 2013, 01:59 AM
agar party workers ko job de bhi h to kya galat h......
ha abb pakka kar diya ki haryana m agli sarkar inld ki hogi or robert vedera bhondsi jail m hoga.


Jinke already naam aa rakhe the list mein unka kya? Party workers ko job do but not at the cost of other who equally deserve instead create more jobs and then give it.

VPannu
January 17th, 2013, 02:43 AM
A PTI flash just came in...
Former Haryana CM Om Prakash Chautala, his son and 53 others convicted by Delhi court for illegal recruitment of over 3000 teachers.

A message to those who feel system or courts does not convict politicians.
I was expecting this thread from you, lo and behold, you didn't disappoint me :)

It is welcome decision by court but i get surprised when PM is not held accountable in 2G/coal gate or delhi CM in commonwealth on the same basis as done here. Court said OP Chautala is directly an accused as everything was happening under his tutelage as he was CM when it happened so question is what happened in 2g or coal gate when PM was in charge or in common wealth in Delhi, are they(PM and Delhi CM) not in control? if yes they should be behind bars too and if not then they don't deserve to remain in their respective positions. This means either congressis never commit crime or they are immune from our legal system. Us Gopal Kanda ka to bigda nahi eeb tak kimme.

desijat
January 17th, 2013, 05:38 AM
I was expecting this thread from you, lo and behold, you didn't disappoint me :)

I had to cause I know no one would. Check the discussion here, I am sure people would have pondered love if this was anti-congress thread where anyone would have been accused of corruption without conviction.

None the less, I was also expecting criticism for it, lo and behold, you didnt disappoint me



This means either congressis never commit crime or they are immune from our legal system. Us Gopal Kanda ka to bigda nahi eeb tak kimme. [/COLOR]

Gopal Kanda konsa Congressi hai? wo to Nirdaliya hai jisne bahar se samarthan dia jo pahle Chautala ke sath tha and he is in jail still.

Amongst only a few ministers who have been convicted is Sukhram(congress) so your claim doesnt really stand tall. And I guess you didnt read my second post of them replacing Kalmadi in his cell who is still pending trial.

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desijat
January 17th, 2013, 05:40 AM
It is welcome decision by court but i get surprised when PM is not held accountable in 2G/coal gate or delhi CM in commonwealth on the same basis as done here. Court said OP Chautala is directly an accused as everything was happening under his tutelage as he was CM when it happened so question is what happened in 2g or coal gate when PM was in charge or in common wealth in Delhi, are they(PM and Delhi CM) not in control? if yes they should be behind bars too and if not then they don't deserve to remain in their respective positions.

Because no one stood against them like against Chautalas in courts, not even opposition.

Also, both the matters are in court, same law is looking at them so let us see what course law takes. Just like Chautala case, justice will be delayed and we might see many ups and down still.

rinkusheoran
January 17th, 2013, 06:12 AM
Gopal Kanda konsa Congressi hai?
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Haan jis tarah A raja and kanimohi nhi thi congress mein n jo indian Olympic association k chairman ne kia usme to congres ka koi role nhi hai ya jo vadhera ne kia kyunki vo bhi knosa congressi hai :P

VPannu
January 17th, 2013, 07:40 AM
I had to cause I know no one would. .......Carry on. I know your agenda very well.
Let me be the devil's advocate.
Over 3200 teachers were recruited. कुछ कुवारे लड़के लडकियों की शादी हो गयी होगी ये नोकरी लगने से । ज्यादा नहीं तो कम से कम 3200 घर बसा दिए, घूस तो खायी है इसमें कोई शंका नहीं । दुसरे घोटालो जैसे देश को चूना तो नहीं लगाया । और टीचर ही हैं , प्राइमरी स्कूल में A B C पढ़ानी होती है , कोई भी पढ़ा देगा , इसमें कोनसा देश का भविष्य खतरे में पड़ गया । जितना चौटाला 5 साल में कर गया जाट समाज के लिए उतना हुड्डा अगले 10 साल में भी न कर पावे ।

desijat
January 17th, 2013, 07:47 AM
जितना चौटाला 5 साल में कर गया जाट समाज के लिए उतना हुड्डा अगले 10 साल में भी न कर पावे । [/FONT][/COLOR]


Not being sarcastic and genuinely asking for my education... What did he do?

vikasJAT
January 17th, 2013, 09:15 AM
Jinke already naam aa rakhe the list mein unka kya? Party workers ko job do but not at the cost of other who equally deserve instead create more jobs and then give it.

kyu bhai PARTY WORKERS k kimme ghane chikne hain jo un ne job do.

marks aur eligibility k base per job milni chaiye, chahe vo party worker ho ya aam aadmi......

vikasJAT
January 17th, 2013, 09:20 AM
Carry on. I know your agenda very well.
Let me be the devil's advocate.
Over 3200 teachers were recruited. कुछ कुवारे लड़के लडकियों की शादी हो गयी होगी ये नोकरी लगने से । ज्यादा नहीं तो कम से कम 3200 घर बसा दिए, घूस तो खायी है इसमें कोई शंका नहीं । दुसरे घोटालो जैसे देश को चूना तो नहीं लगाया । और टीचर ही हैं , प्राइमरी स्कूल में A B C पढ़ानी होती है , कोई भी पढ़ा देगा , इसमें कोनसा देश का भविष्य खतरे में पड़ गया । जितना चौटाला 5 साल में कर गया जाट समाज के लिए उतना हुड्डा अगले 10 साल में भी न कर पावे ।

Pannu baat to teri sahi h ki iste bot se chorra-chorriye k ghar basge........per bhai dusri sarkar aate e in ne naukari te nikal de hain, fer aur b bhundi bane hai, rishwat k pisse b gaye aur naukari b gayi.

kai to isse isse hain jo apne kille bachh k naukari len khater rishwat de hain,aur fer unki gail isi bhundi bane hai to vo kitte k na rehte.

ise 3-4 case mane dekhe hain MEHAM side me jab chautala ne jate jate police ki bharti nikali thi, bot se logo ne kille bach k rishwat di, HOODA k aate e ve nikal diye....naukari gayi, paise gaye aur jinka rishta hora tha unka rishta b toota.

desijat
January 17th, 2013, 09:24 AM
]
ise -4 case mane dekhe hain MEHAM side me jab chautala ne jate jate police ki bharti nikali thi, bot se logo ne kille bach k rishwat di, HOODA k aate e ve nikal diye....naukari gayi, paise gaye aur jinka rishta hora tha unka rishta b toota.

Par bhai badi baat to ye hai ki jab sarkar hamari to paise kyu de? Koi paise dene aur lene ko le kar sawal nahi utha raha balki acha kah raha hai ki naukria lagwa di.

Khair, main to kuch aise logo ko bhi janta hu jinhe Chautala ne VRS dila di kyunki unhone dhandhli nahi ki jo inhone chahi

akshaymalik84
January 17th, 2013, 10:30 AM
ओह हो .....म भी न्यू करूँ यो जाटलैंड हरा हरा सा क्यूँ हो रह्या स

ssgoyat
January 17th, 2013, 11:27 AM
ise 3-4 case mane dekhe hain MEHAM side me jab chautala ne jate jate police ki bharti nikali thi, bot se logo ne kille bach k rishwat di, HOODA k aate e ve nikal diye....naukari gayi, paise gaye aur jinka rishta hora tha unka rishta b toota.

iska ek fayda yu manu su me..
je aagge khattar log shyane ho jya to... kise ne rishwat den ki jarurat e na pade..

@pannu,

haan re...arr baaki kise ke balaklaag gaye, ghar bass gaye... ye bakwaad baat sein..... kisse kille bechhaniye ke, rishwat deniye ke e baalik laagne chahiye ke?? jis dhore kille na, byont na.. un baalka ka ke?? we faltu se ke? un ne naukari laagte dekh, ghar basta hod dekh ke koe rajji kyun na? je rishwat deniye na hotte, te we bhi laag sake the..;)

virender007
January 17th, 2013, 06:23 PM
very good bhai

ravinderjeet
January 17th, 2013, 06:35 PM
खागडआँ की लड़ाई में गोस्स्याँ का खो ।
चौटाला भरती करे, ते हुड्डा काढ दे ,हुड्डा भरती करे ते चौटाला काढ दे ।
खेत भी गये ,लुगाई भी गई ।
फेर बोलियाँ काढें कसर रही-सही ।।

jaisingh318
January 17th, 2013, 06:43 PM
hooda kay barthi karey hoya n to na kade choutala ............kuki congressi bade syane s ...arr sare afsar bhi inke ho s.
bahrti koi hoi na tha pahlam bhi ....list to bandei arr patdi rahya kare s...lagya hua koi nahi hatya inld govt. n.

jaisingh318
January 17th, 2013, 07:36 PM
ch. devilal ne 77 hcs jaat lagye they some 110 post m ........tab bhi bhaman ,pakistani raffuggi, arr bania yo ilgam lagte they............

phoolkumar
January 17th, 2013, 08:21 PM
Hooda sahab,

Jatda ar Katda aapne ko hi maare waali kahaani kar di aapne to.....

agar gherna hi tha to in Bishnoiyon ko ghirwaate na....us Chand Mommad pe to chaaho murderer ka mukdma dalwa saari umar jail mein sadwa sakte ho....

aur aise hi is chhote waali ki kahaani hai....

so agar kal ko chautala ki party khatre mein bhi aati hai to Chautala ke khilaaf is harkat se Chautala ka Jat vote to congress ko milega nahin wo bhale hi Bishnoi pe chad jaaye....so karwa diya in Bishnoiyon ka baithe bithaaye faaida...

jaisingh318
January 17th, 2013, 08:28 PM
22 kay baad inn congreesia ne koi na badan dey gaama m ............khaddey lattah bajey gay to iss hooda ka hoodi banta apne app dikh jya ga

phoolkumar
January 17th, 2013, 08:28 PM
ismen reasons ye bhi ho sakte hain......

1) Jats aage badh rahe hain.....10% aarkshan in court waalon ko raaash nahin aa raha
2) 14th January ko honor killing ke naam pe Supreme Court mein Khaps ko gherne ki inki sajis fail ho gai
3) lagta judge ne Matru ki Bijli ka Mandola dekh li thi jismen Jats and Haryana dikhaya hua hai
4) baaki rajneeti walaa point to ooper bata hi diya

so ye bhi kaaran hain kahin na kahin in judges ko chautala family ke khilaaf itna kada decision le ke, warna sunwaai to 8 saal se chal rahi thi ab kyaa ek dam se itna khaas ho gaya...

sona
January 17th, 2013, 09:02 PM
Don't forget about that investigation is done by CBI . Popularly called as Congress Bureau of Investigation by opposition. Anybody has doubt about it?? If it is not so then why Mulayam & Mayawati are still not convicted. Because they are supporting UPA?? Chautala ne to fir abhi allover haryana se candidate liye the...Hooda ne to sirf sara rohtak lagwaya. Purani kahawat hai chaaj ka to bole, chalni ka k bole...it suits the situation!!!
:redface:

desijat
January 17th, 2013, 09:23 PM
so agar kal ko chautala ki party khatre mein bhi aati hai to Chautala ke khilaaf is harkat se Chautala ka Jat vote to congress ko milega nahin wo bhale hi Bishnoi pe chad jaaye....so karwa diya in Bishnoiyon ka baithe bithaaye faaida...

Phool Kumar ji,

Bada ajeeb sa jawab hai aapka, aap ke anusar kisi ko bhi apne rajneetil faide ke lie aankhe moond leni chaiye bhrashtachar se and aur chun chun kar sirf unke khilaf case karane chaiye jinse raajneeti chamakti ho?

phoolkumar
January 17th, 2013, 11:39 PM
Vikas,

Aapko kya lagta hai ki congress ne CBI wakai mein corruption se nibatne ke liye chhodi Chautalas ke peechhe?[

Ya to CBI independent rahi hoti to main maanta ki ismen koi political benefit nahin rather curbing of corruption tha ya fir aap batao Congress ke liye sabse bada khatra kaun aane waale elections mein INLD ya HJC?

Brother corruption rokne ke liye main bhi utna hi ichchuk hoon jitne ki aap but at least Chautalas ki jail, corruption ko le ke to nahin hui....aur wo bhi ain us time pe jab poore Haryana mein next year ke shuru ke months mein elections hone waale hain......

ye aap bhi jante hain ki Jat hi ek aisa votebank hai jo Congress aur INLD pe banta hua hai, kyonki baaki vote itna maayne bhi nahin rakhta, kyonki wo sab already fix ho chuke hain ki kaun kisko dega....sirf Jats hi aise hain jinko congress ne socha ki Chautala ko jail bhej ke apni taraf kar legi but aisa hoga nahin my dear....ab ya Chautala baahar aaye nahin to 1996 se chala aa raha Jats ka raaj gaya Haryana mein next elections mein....
QUOTE=desijat;330281]Phool Kumar ji,

Bada ajeeb sa jawab hai aapka, aap ke anusar kisi ko bhi apne rajneetil faide ke lie aankhe moond leni chaiye bhrashtachar se and aur chun chun kar sirf unke khilaf case karane chaiye jinse raajneeti chamakti ho?[/QUOTE]

vikasJAT
January 17th, 2013, 11:52 PM
Don't forget about that investigation is done by CBI . Popularly called as Congress Bureau of Investigation by opposition. Anybody has doubt about it?? If it is not so then why Mulayam & Mayawati are still not convicted. Because they are supporting UPA?? Chautala ne to fir abhi allover haryana se candidate liye the...Hooda ne to sirf sara rohtak lagwaya. Purani kahawat hai chaaj ka to bole, chalni ka k bole...it suits the situation!!!
:redface:

jo b bane h vo apne apne area ka e sudhaar kare hai.........chahe Hooda ho ya Chautala.

Chautala bana to usne Sirsa chamka diya aur udde k balak lagvaye.....Rohtak ki re-re matti kar di.
Hooda bana to usne Rohtak chamka diya aur Rohtak aur Sanghi k balak lagva diye.

Rahi baat CBI to isme b nare khauu baithe hain.....pisse faiko aur tamasha dekho.

desijat
January 18th, 2013, 12:14 AM
Bhaisaab, ek baat to aapne bhi notice ki hogi ki kisi ne bhi is thread pe ye nahi kaha ki chautala ne paise nahi khaye, corruption to hua tha ab chahe kisi ke bhi raaj mein conviction hua ho.

Rahi Bishnoi ki baat, I am not sure ki unme iska faida uthane layak kshamta hai ya nahi.



Vikas,

Aapko kya lagta hai ki congress ne CBI wakai mein corruption se nibatne ke liye chhodi Chautalas ke peechhe?[
/......chaiye bhrashtachar se and aur chun chun kar sirf unke khilaf case karane chaiye jinse raajneeti chamakti ho?[/QUOTE]

desijat
January 18th, 2013, 12:21 AM
One thing that many people might not be aware of, Chautalas can not contest next election after this conviction even if they were to go to Supreme Court right now .

Sunil2011
January 18th, 2013, 01:03 AM
jo hua theek hua aur jo hoga woh bhi theek hoga.........

in saare ministers ka ek baar sara audit hona chaiye...........agni pariksha.............pher dekho kitne theek thak lakde sain bahar......sayad ek bhi nahin.........

Is langde nai to ghar ki parti bana rakhi thi........nash tha rakha tha hariyana ka.........bhede se naad aala yo abhay kaise bach gaya isko bhi lene tha andar.........pher dekhte inki lugayiaan ka ke hota.........aur koi hi dekh bhal karta inki lugayina ki

laage sai ib inki dukan daari band hogi hariyana main.......????????

rskankara
January 18th, 2013, 01:53 AM
पहले "दलाल" शब्द ज्यादा प्रयोग होता था, फिर 'एजेन्ट' शब्द आया, अब 'सर्विस प्रोवाइडर'.... पर सभी पर राजनेताओं का कब्जा है और हम के अपनी अपनी राजनेतिक विचारधारा /जुड़ाव / पार्टी के हर सही और गलत अंग वस्त्रों को रिन /निरमा से धोने मे लगे है, वो भी बिना कमीशन के ......

VPannu
January 18th, 2013, 02:11 AM
kyu bhai PARTY WORKERS k kimme ghane chikne hain jo un ne job do.

marks aur eligibility k base per job milni chaiye, chahe vo party worker ho ya aam aadmi......Party worker ne bhagat te kam maat maaniye. Unka bhgwaan ho se party ka neta, or tanne ke laage hai yo desijat nuve baawla hoya geet gaaya kare aade congress ke :tongue:.

haan re...arr baaki kise ke balaklaag gaye, ghar bass gaye... ye bakwaad baat sein..... kisse kille bechhaniye ke, rishwat deniye ke e baalik laagne chahiye ke?? jis dhore kille na, byont na.. un baalka ka ke?? we faltu se ke? un ne naukari laagte dekh, ghar basta hod dekh ke koe rajji kyun na? je rishwat deniye na hotte, te we bhi laag sake the bhai baat issi hai aajkaal sabke 90% te upar number aan laag ge, criteria to saare pass kar de hain. jis dhore thoda byont hove hai vo kimme le de ke laag ja hai nokri ar jiska na byont hota vo case thokk de hai. tanne ke laage hai yo case kin ne kara hoga ? Hooda ne thodi parvaah hai ak Chautala ne ke kara ? yo case to un ne kara hoga ya to jinka rishwat den ka byont nahi tha, ya fer jin ne di bhi hogi par nokri nahi mili.

One thing that many people might not be aware of, Chautalas can not contest next election after this conviction even if they were to go to Supreme Court right now . Really? manne to laage hai yo contest bhi karega ar CM bhi banega.

desijat
January 18th, 2013, 02:48 AM
Really? manne to laage hai yo contest bhi karega ar CM bhi banega.

Jibbe party worker ki tarreya laga pada hai bachav main phal khatar... ;)

On a serious note, highly unlikely for Mr. Chautala to be CM, and specially if Jat reservation falls in place before elections.

VPannu
January 18th, 2013, 03:13 AM
Jibbe party worker ki tarreya laga pada hai bachav main phal khatar... ;) Jab tanne itne panne bhaand diye Congress khaatar to itna haq to mera bhi bane hai ;)


On a serious note, highly unlikely for Mr. Chautala to be CM, and specially if Jat reservation falls in place before elections.Jat reservation in Hooda's reign is far cry from reality. ar bhai chautala election ladega to ban bhi jayega. He lost last time by a whisker only. If compare these two, I find Hooda a lesser corrupt man than Chautala but a slave of Sonia like any other congressi.

rskankara
January 18th, 2013, 03:18 AM
यार, जाट दिल से वोट देते है दिमाग से नही... कहानी की पटकथा में अभी और कई ट्विस्ट आएंगे..... अभी शाम होने देर है, पता नही ऊट किधर बैठे...

Jibbe party worker ki tarreya laga pada hai bachav main phal khatar... ;)

On a serious note, highly unlikely for Mr. Chautala to be CM, and specially if Jat reservation falls in place before elections.

desijat
January 18th, 2013, 04:16 AM
I find Hooda a lesser corrupt man than Chautala but a slave of Sonia like any other congressi.



So you are saying in spite of the fact the Hooda is a better man(less corrupt, has developed Haryana), he should not win just because he follows his party line?

VPannu
January 18th, 2013, 04:56 AM
So you are saying in spite of the fact the Hooda is a better man(less corrupt, has developed Haryana), he should not win just because he follows his party line?
I just stated that as my opinion. What has it got to do with him (Hooda) losing or winning elections? His deal is same as Manmohan's. MMS lesser corrupt than any other congressi, did wonderful job as FM earlier. Look what has happened to him now. The man doesn't utter one damn word and all his wisdom & goodwill gone down the drain.

malikdeepak1
January 18th, 2013, 06:48 AM
Chautala ne 85 HCS lagaye the, jisme 17 akele Narwana ke the.. us time to koe na fudkya ak Chautala ne Rohtak/sunpat aala gelya dubhaat kar di? Bhajni ne Hisaar chamkaya, jab na bole ak rohtak me to rodi bhi na tiki rey. Rohtak ke sec-1 me sadak ke naam pe khadde rahe 15 saal tak.. sirf 2 road banya karti rohtak ki- 1 medical mode te medical tak, ar dusra dilli bypass (wo bhi jab chautala ne dilli jana hoya karta by road). Log paani tak ne tarse hai rohtak me 2003 tak. Jabki Chautala ne CDLU bna di Sirsa me ar khoob naukri di ude ke loga tayi. Us time ye dubhaat koni dikhi kise ne?

Hooda ne bhi wo e karya hai jo Chautala aur Bhajni ne karya tha.. Saare ek thaili ke chatte-batte hai ye. In-ne vote leni ho se apne saher me. kaam to karenge unka.

Crux is - CM City ke kaam hote hi hai.. chahe wo koe bhi ho. kal ne chautala ban gya fer, to rohtak/sunpat/jhajjar me rodi bhi nahi tikegi sadak pe.

malikdeepak1
January 18th, 2013, 06:52 AM
Really? manne to laage hai yo contest bhi karega ar CM bhi banega.

Bhai Pannu, Saja hogi to isne wa saja cancel karwani padegi high court me. Us se pahle chunaav nahi lad sakte. Aur jyada jaankari to aade koesa vakeel hai to wo e de sake hai.

malikdeepak1
January 18th, 2013, 06:56 AM
.so karwa diya in Bishnoiyon ka baithe bithaaye faaida...

Issa kaam na karwaaiye bhai phool.. Jaat ne jma bitha denge ye bhajni ke laal.

ssgoyat
January 18th, 2013, 08:12 AM
bhai baat issi hai aajkaal sabke 90% te upar number aan laag ge, criteria to saare pass kar de hain. jis dhore thoda byont hove hai vo kimme le de ke laag ja hai nokri ar jiska na byont hota vo case thokk de hai. tanne ke laage hai yo case kin ne kara hoga ? Hooda ne thodi parvaah hai ak Chautala ne ke kara ? yo case to un ne kara hoga ya to jinka rishwat den ka byont nahi tha, ya fer jin ne di bhi hogi par nokri nahi mili.
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आहो ... नब्बे परसेंट ''सबके''....मारे भ्काई .।।।।यो दिल्ली कोन्या ...हरयाणा में गाम्मा में ऎब भी पर्ची गेड्नी पड्या करे दिवारा पर के ने कूद के, पुलिस आल्यान के लठ खा के। ढंग में फर्स्ट डिवीज़न में पास होण में हंगा लागे ऎब भी बाल्कान पे .. एवरेज भी 65% ते उप्पर कोन्य पावे .. 90 ते होए ए कित सबके।

इसे बेचारे न ब्योंत आले केस ठोक्कन जोग्गे होंदे ते, अर्र कोए इनकी सुननिया होंदा (कोर्ट कचेहरी, थाणे, राजनीति में) ... ये सरे चुटाला ,पूताल्ला, हुड्डा, पुड्दा कदे के जेल में घले पन्दे, अर्र हरियाणा में "जुगाड़ " शब्द कदे का ख़तम होया पन्दा

केस उन पे इ ठोका जाया करे जिनका तगड़ा ब्योंत आर सुनवाई की गुंजाइश (जुगाड़) हो से, कोर्ट कचेहरी का बेरा हो से .....जुनसे पिस्से भी दे दे सें, अर्र फेर भी लाग्गन नहीं पन्दे (जीसी तन्ने भी ठीक कही ).. अरोड़ा, परोड़ा, शर्मा , बंसल , गुप्ता बरगे ...

हुड्डा ने थोड़े ही परवाह?? : हुड्डा तो इस ख़बर का मारा, जाडे में स्योड़ में गुलगुले खान्ता पावेगा , अखबार पढता होड़, अक्क ठीक टेम पे कट्ट्या रोग , विरोधी भी गया, आरक्षण में नाम भी होया ... आगली बारी पक्की

malikdeepak1
January 18th, 2013, 08:32 AM
आहो ... नब्बे परसेंट ''सबके''....मारे भ्काई .।।।।यो दिल्ली कोन्या ...हरयाणा में गाम्मा में ऎब भी पर्ची गेड्नी पड्या करे दिवारा पर के ने कूद के, पुलिस आल्यान के लठ खा के। ढंग में फर्स्ट डिवीज़न में पास होण में हंगा लागे ऎब भी बाल्कान पे .. एवरेज भी 65% ते उप्पर कोन्य पावे .. 90 ते होए ए कित सबके।


Bhai, akshar nahi dekhte jmaa balak.. master ne skul te bahr likadte ae peet de se.. padhte-likhte se na, ootpane faltu kare se..



इसे बेचारे न ब्योंत आले केस ठोक्कन जोग्गे होंदे ते, अर्र कोए इनकी सुननिया होंदा (कोर्ट कचेहरी, थाणे, राजनीति में) ... ये सरे चुटाला ,पूताल्ला, हुड्डा, पुड्दा कदे के जेल में घले पन्दे, अर्र हरियाणा में "जुगाड़ " शब्द कदे का ख़तम होया पन्दा


MOTA PISSA ar MOTI SIFARISH bina koni laagti naukri...

केस उन पे इ ठोका जाया करे जिनका तगड़ा ब्योंत आर सुनवाई की गुंजाइश (जुगाड़) हो से, कोर्ट कचेहरी का बेरा हो से .....जुनसे पिस्से भी दे दे सें, अर्र फेर भी लाग्गन नहीं पन्दे (जीसी तन्ने भी ठीक कही ).. अरोड़ा, परोड़ा, शर्मा , बंसल , गुप्ता बरगे ...

हुड्डा ने थोड़े ही परवाह?? : हुड्डा तो इस ख़बर का मारा, जाडे में स्योड़ में गुलगुले खान्ता पावेगा , अखबार पढता होड़, अक्क ठीक टेम पे कट्ट्या रोग , विरोधी भी गया, आरक्षण में नाम भी होया ... आगली बारी पक्की

ha haa ha
ha ha.. sahi kahi

phoolkumar
January 18th, 2013, 10:54 AM
ye to ho gaya Deepak bhaai, Reservation ke liye ladaai laden Jat, baith bithaaye faaida ho Bishnoi aur other 3 castes ka, Jail jaaye Chautala aur faaida ho in Bishnoiyon ka....agar jail ho gai na Chautala ko lambi to fer dekhiye yo Hooda bhi ke kar lega......

is Chautala versus Hooda ki ladai ke liye hi to wo kahawaten kahi gai hain ki Jat-Jat ka dushman aur Jat ki 36 kaum dushman.....

bata is congress ko ya kaho ki Haryana mein Hooda ko wo Chand Mohmmad nahin dikhta jiske pyaar mein pad ke FIZA jaan gavaan baithi...dikhata-dikhata murderer ka case thok ke kyon nahin dalwata saale ko jail mein, uspe aur bhi bahut charges ban sakte hain.....aur aise hi kooche hi doosre Bishnoi ne kar rakhe hain......

pata nahin ye Jat leaders kab samjhenge in baaton ko.....



Issa kaam na karwaaiye bhai phool.. Jaat ne jma bitha denge ye bhajni ke laal.

desijat
January 18th, 2013, 11:04 AM
रियाणा में 3206 कनिष्ठ शिक्षकों की अवैध भर्ती के मामले में तिहाड़ जेल भेजे गए हरियाणा के पूर्व मुख्यमंत्री ओम प्रकाश चौटाला की तबीयत खराब होने पर उन्हें गुड़गांव के मेदांता अस्पताल में भर्ती करवाया गया। हालांकि देर रात तक मेदांता से किसी तरह का मेडिकल बुलेटिन जारी नहीं किया गया।

चौटाला ने पहले अदालत को अर्जी दी थी कि उन्हें निमोनिया व फिजियोथैरेपी जैसी कई बीमारियां हैं और उनका गुड़गांव के मेदांता अस्पताल में पहले से ही इलाज चल रहा है, इसलिए उन्हें इसी अस्पताल में इलाज करवाने की इजाजत दी जाए। अर्जी में यह भी मांग की गई है कि उनको जेल में एक हेल्पर,वेस्टर्न टॉयलेट व कुछ दवाई रखने की अनुमति दी जाए।

ssgoyat
January 18th, 2013, 11:16 AM
अर्जी में यह भी मांग की गई है कि उनको जेल में एक हेल्पर,वेस्टर्न टॉयलेट व कुछ दवाई रखने की अनुमति दी जाए।

माडी ए बन री होगी.. चीश लागती होंगी गोड्डे या में जाड्डे के माह ... उठ ते , बैठ ते :-(

spdeshwal
January 18th, 2013, 03:07 PM
I am really sad for Shri Omprakash Chautala! I don't have same feelings for Ajay Chautala!
I have never been a Chautala supporter and never voted for his party but only for Tau in 1989 and 1991!
I still have doubts about CBI's impartiality! The question remains about CBI's approach to every investigation involving a high profile politician like Mr. Chautala. In the present circumstances, it is highly unlikely for him to contest the next elections!
I believe, his health is very fragile and this episode would be a fatal one! I hope, CBI court would be a bit lenient towards the senior Chautala!

jaisingh318
January 18th, 2013, 07:36 PM
bata is congress ko ya kaho ki Haryana mein Hooda ko wo Chand Mohmmad nahin dikhta jiske pyaar mein pad ke FIZA jaan gavaan baithi...dikhata-dikhata murderer ka case thok ke kyon nahin dalwata saale ko jail mein, uspe aur bhi bahut charges ban sakte hain.....aur aise hi kooche hi doosre Bishnoi ne kar rakhe hain......

pata nahin ye Jat leaders kab samjhenge in baaton ko.....
i am soory to say ..............deepu ki pahldi bahu bhi thaa leggye the bajni har .......jaat ka khoon na s iss hoodi m

desijat
January 18th, 2013, 07:51 PM
.deepu ki pahldi bahu bhi thaa leggye the bajni har ......

What..... ?

desijat
January 18th, 2013, 07:53 PM
CBI court would be a bit lenient towards the senior Chautala!

Sir,

If age becomes the factor that defines the severity of punishment then most of our political leaders would never be convicted. The first and the foremost person who should be acquitted of any charge must be N D Tiwari followed by Sukhram.
When convicts do not think of their physical capability/age while committing a crime, why should the courts?

jaisingh318
January 18th, 2013, 07:58 PM
What..... ?
deepu ki first marriage bhajnlal n karye thee..............sare baat na kahi ja sakti.

jaisingh318
January 18th, 2013, 08:10 PM
Sir,

If age becomes the factor that defines the severity of punishment then most of our political leaders would never be convicted. The first and the foremost person who should be acquitted of any charge must be N D Tiwari followed by Sukhram.
When convicts do not think of their physical capability/age while committing a crime, why should the courts?
jail s election ladge orr senior choutala health wise week hote hoi bhi youngs s jayda kaam karte h............
orr leader ka naam hi bhoot hota h jinda kaum k liye

desijat
January 18th, 2013, 08:16 PM
deepu ki first marriage bhajnlal n karye thee..............sare baat na kahi ja sakti.

Jo kahi na ja sakti wa baat nahi- to bekar ki baat thaya na kar

jaisingh318
January 18th, 2013, 08:24 PM
Jo kahi na ja sakti wa baat nahi- to bekar ki baat thaya na kar
tere soach rakh tere dohre .................deepu kakkdi barga nua na h.

piush_tomar
January 18th, 2013, 08:32 PM
Yeh Ghotaley bhi dimaag ka kaam hai, Hum yaha bhi fail hai :) , not supporting corruption but this is the fact.

desijat
January 18th, 2013, 08:34 PM
tere soach rakh tere dohre .................deepu kakkdi barga nua na h.

Meri soch to ye hai ki jahan aag ko sambhal na sako waha chingari bhi na chodo, ya to puri baat bolo ya adhi baat na chodh

jaisingh318
January 18th, 2013, 08:37 PM
Yeh Ghotaley bhi dimaag ka kaam hai, Hum yaha bhi fail hai :) , not supporting corruption but this is the fact.
koi ghotala nahi h pahle ch. bansilal ki list thi na ki joining karwa dee thee to inld ki sarkar aa gayi to ............but natural sab apne ko dekte h
also surprised why bhiwani warriors not comments.......both list full with their names...

jaisingh318
January 18th, 2013, 08:39 PM
Meri soch to ye hai ki jahan aag ko sambhal na sako waha chingari bhi na chodo, ya to puri baat bolo ya adhi baat na chodh
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vikasJAT
January 18th, 2013, 09:31 PM
ye to ho gaya Deepak bhaai, Reservation ke liye ladaai laden Jat, baith bithaaye faaida ho Bishnoi aur other 3 castes ka, Jail jaaye Chautala aur faaida ho in Bishnoiyon ka....agar jail ho gai na Chautala ko lambi to fer dekhiye yo Hooda bhi ke kar lega......

is Chautala versus Hooda ki ladai ke liye hi to wo kahawaten kahi gai hain ki Jat-Jat ka dushman aur Jat ki 36 kaum dushman.....

bata is congress ko ya kaho ki Haryana mein Hooda ko wo Chand Mohmmad nahin dikhta jiske pyaar mein pad ke FIZA jaan gavaan baithi...dikhata-dikhata murderer ka case thok ke kyon nahin dalwata saale ko jail mein, uspe aur bhi bahut charges ban sakte hain.....aur aise hi kooche hi doosre Bishnoi ne kar rakhe hain......

pata nahin ye Jat leaders kab samjhenge in baaton ko.....

sari jagah politics hai........in case ka to sabne bera hai.

spdeshwal
January 19th, 2013, 12:24 AM
i am soory to say ..............deepu ki pahldi bahu bhi thaa leggye the bajni har .......jaat ka khoon na s iss hoodi m

Do you have any sense of responsibility or sensibility for what you write here? I am surprised and wonder sometimes if any responsible system of moderation exist on this site!People like you you deserve an instant ban for the rubbish and crap you write here! When you write something like this for a respectable jat than I can surely doubt about your background.I mean, i wouldn't expect a real jat to slide to that level! Please avoid such comments in future!

@Vikash: He might have made some wrong political and administrative decisions but remains an elder of our community and I expressed my sentiments and would seek leniency on that ground alone!
@ Phool kumar: Fiza's suicide/ murder happened in Mohali, Punjab. So the local police must have explored every theory related to the case! Nevertheless, Fiza was not a holy cow on any account!

cheers

vipinrathee
January 19th, 2013, 01:58 AM
Its nothing but an eyewash...CBI is a tool used by the party in power to nail down opposition party leaders..Congress is doing this to bolster their leadership in haryana..its nothing but politics....

vicky84
January 19th, 2013, 02:35 AM
Chautala ne 85 HCS lagaye the, jisme 17 akele Narwana ke the..

BS Hooda did the similar thing in HCS exam 2009.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/corruption-nepotism-cloud-haryana-civil-services-merit-list/740789/0

http://iasaspirant.wordpress.com/

HPSC organized HCS-2009 exam under aegis of new chairman [Mr. Batra who later replaced by Mr. R D Sheokand] but HPSC failed to meet standard of Transparency and Accountability. Commission charged a fee of Rs. 1000/candidate when UPSC charged Rs. 20/candidate for same. Commission didn’t allow candidates to take away question papers neither in Prelims nor in Mains. May I ask why..??? Once again when final result of HCS-2009 was declared by HPSC on 4thJan 2011, History repeated itself and most influential candidates (Close relatives of Board Members, Political Leaders and Bureaucrats) sailed through. INLD (Main Opposition Political Party) came with an advance list of 15 names on 21st December 2010 who would get selected and socking reality is that 10 names out of them are in the list of successful candidatesList of some favoured candidates in HCS-2009 Exam:-**This time written carried 600 marks and interview carried 75 marks


Apart from above mentioned candidates several other candidates who are close to either Politicians or Bureaucrats made it in list of successful candidates. They all are supposed to join on 18th Jan 2011. Many deserving candidates, who did very well in the written test, were intentionally given low marks in the interview either to push their rank low or kick them out. For instance candidate with Roll No-1184 has secured 411 marks in the written test but only 18 in the interview. Similarly, a candidate bearing Roll No- 2069 secured 409 marks in the written test but only 11 in the interview. There is very high variation in marks awarded in interview from minimum 10 to maximum 66. It will be not wrong we say that HCS stands for “Hidden Civil Services”.

vicky84
January 19th, 2013, 02:54 AM
Hooda is no less in such deals. HCS 2011 prelim exam in also under scanner.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-11-30/india/35484006_1_grace-marks-hpsc-wrong-questions

On November 27, the commission suggested that the HC reduce cut off marks for preliminary examinations in all categories. The matter reached the high court after some petitioners challenged the action of the HPSC granting marks to candidates with reference to wrong questions in the preliminary examination of HCS-2011 held on March 25. The result was declared illegal and demand was raised for a fresh examination.
The petitioners were against the commission decision to grant grace marks to some candidates for wrong answers in the booklet of general studies (compulsory paper) and some optional papers.

vicky84
January 19th, 2013, 02:59 AM
Further read on evidence of nepotism in HCS 2009 exam(Hooda govt favoured his selected candidates)

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-05-12/chandigarh/29535446_1_selection-list-entire-selection-haryana-public-service-commission

'My selection is a slap on the face of HPSE'


Ecstatic over his selection in the prestigious service, Lalit who has secured 41st rank in AllIndia (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/India) Civil Services Examination, said, ''My selection is slap on the face of Haryana Public Service Commission (HPSC), which is demoralizing the best brains while adopting arbitrary procedure for making selection to the state civil services.'' Jain had appeared for Haryana Civil Service (HCS) examination 2009 conducted by HPSC, but was allegedly given extremely low marks to oust from being selected.

Lalit has scored the highest rank among candidates from Tricity, who had appeared for the services. He further said that when he was rejected by HPSC, he lost all his confidence & was very upset and decided to launch a legal battle to correct the system. Adding that the State Service Commission is a repository of the faith reposed in it by Constitution of India and it is supposed to make selections to public posts with flawless integrity. But sadly the state commissions are betraying the faith reposed on them.
Lalit, who has brought the entire selection of HCS under the scanner of judiciary, claimed that he along with other candidates had secured more than 60% marks in the HCS written test but they were brought down in the final list by 10% to 25% marks in the interview. On the other hand most of the selected candidates, especially the ones belonging to influential families, who were getting below 60% marks in the written test were given around 80% to 90% marks in the interview, to enable them to jump the cut off line.
Bunch of petitions filed by Jain and others is still pending with HC who had sought reply from the state on the alleged favouritism in the said examination. Allegations of selection of the close relatives of chief minister (CM) Haryana, his wife, MPs and senior officers of the state government are also in the selection list. Even state CM has been impleaded in person as party and asked to respond on the issue by HC.

ssgoyat
January 19th, 2013, 10:47 AM
इस हमाम में सब नंगे .... क्या कांग्रेस क्या इनेलो ..

सभी ने अपने चहेते लगवाए हैं , काबिल उमीद्वार को मजबूरन सेंट्रल की तरफ रुख करना पद जाता है। और आ जाती है हरियाणा में भ्रष्ट अफसरान की नयी फसल। जाने कब ये सब ख़त्म होगा ..

Samarkadian
January 19th, 2013, 12:03 PM
हरियाणा के जाटो को ना तो चौटाला साहब [इनेलो) का और ना हूडा साहब(कांग्रेस) का मानसिक बंधुआ मजदूर रहना है ! इनकी अपनी दादा लाही दुकाने हैं !

piush_tomar
January 19th, 2013, 04:07 PM
आहा मैं पहली बार सच्चे और निर्भीक जाट यहाँ देख रहा हूँ अच्छा है चर्चा जरुरी है , मगर मित्रों जरा सोचों अरबो रूपये डकारने वाले और कोंग्रेस को सपोर्ट करने वाले मुलायम और मायावती "बंटी और बबली" उत्तर प्रदेश व केंद्र में मजे ले रहे है और हमारे वाले को 74 वर्ष की आयु में अंदर कर दिया । जाटों एक हो जाओं , थारा काल आ गया है

malikdeepak1
January 19th, 2013, 06:29 PM
BS Hooda did the similar thing in HCS exam 2009.



Bhai Atish, I did not support Hooda. All I want to say was that everyone does this. Jiski sarkar aati hai, wo apne hi bando ke kaam karta hai. Bhuppi ne bhi wahi kiya hai.. Sawal bus itna hi kiya tha ki log us time kyu nahi bole jab bhajni aur chautala ne dubhaat kari thi.. Hooda ne kar di to sabke mirch lagi.. simple..

jaisingh318
January 19th, 2013, 07:01 PM
Do you have any sense of responsibility or sensibility for what you write here?

cheers
inh dono line ki samajh honi chahiye taane bhi..........
nai baat na kari sara haryana jane s........

jaisingh318
January 19th, 2013, 07:12 PM
हरियाणा के जाटो को ना तो चौटाला साहब [इनेलो) का और ना हूडा साहब(कांग्रेस) का मानसिक बंधुआ मजदूर रहना है ! इनकी अपनी दादा लाही दुकाने हैं !
haa choutala sahab ki dadalahi ho sake s..............hoodi to congress ki dukaan ka munsi /kamau put s

rskankara
January 19th, 2013, 07:21 PM
आपका मतलब है मिल के माल खाओ, मलाई खेंचों और डकारो मत?


आहा मैं पहली बार सच्चे और निर्भीक जाट यहाँ देख रहा हूँ अच्छा है चर्चा जरुरी है , मगर मित्रों जरा सोचों अरबो रूपये डकारने वाले और कोंग्रेस को सपोर्ट करने वाले मुलायम और मायावती "बंटी और बबली" उत्तर प्रदेश व केंद्र में मजे ले रहे है और हमारे वाले को 74 वर्ष की आयु में अंदर कर दिया । जाटों एक हो जाओं , थारा काल आ गया है

piush_tomar
January 19th, 2013, 08:06 PM
आपका मतलब है मिल के माल खाओ, मलाई खेंचों और डकारो मत?
नहीं भाई , भ्रष्ठाचार किसी प्रकार की भी ठीक नहीं किन्तु मेरा कथन कृपया एक बार और पढ़े । जब और के साथ इस तरह का पक्षपात हो रहा है तो सिर्फ हमारे वाले ही क्यों सीबीआई के शिकार हो? किन्तु यह सत्य है कौम को लूटा इन सभी ने है । और आज भुगत रहे है

desijat
January 19th, 2013, 10:17 PM
जहाँ तक मैं जनता हू हुडा भी उतना ही जाट है जितना चौटाला तो ये म्हारे वाला आर थारे वाला बनने के मानक के है?


और हमारे वाले को 74 वर्ष की आयु में अंदर कर दिया ।

phoolkumar
January 20th, 2013, 01:57 AM
INLD to capitalise on JBT
scam verdict
Naveen S
Garewal
Tribune News Service

Chandigarh, January 19
The conviction of former Haryana Chief Minister and
Indian National Loki Dal (INLD) chief Om Parkash Chautala and his MLA son Ajay
Chautala along with others in the JBT recruitment scam has taken a political
twist with the party capitalising on judgement that says that recruitments were
done purely “for adjusting their own people” and “no bribe was paid or taken” to
provide jobs to the selected 3,206 JBT teachers.

“Chautala and his son have gone to jail for a secure future of their
supporters and their kin” is the new mantra of the INLD that aims to cash in on
the judgement that is considered too weak to keep the father-son duo behind bars
for long. On the other hand, based on the feeling that the judgement has no
concrete evidence against the Chautalas and a lot of emphasis is laid on
“presumptions”, both the Congress and the Haryana Janhit Congress (HJC) have
started a blame game on the issue of “motives behind the timing of the
judgement”.

Contrary to popular belief that the INLD has suffered a big setback owing to
the jail term for the top INLD leadership and their close aids, the issue may
actually boomerang and create a “sympathy factor” for the party.

Om Parkash Chautala, in his statement before the CBI court at Rohini in Delhi
that convicted him, denied any knowledge or his role in the scam. The order
reads, “Om Prakash Chautala, Ajay Singh Chautala and Sher Singh Badshami have
denied not only their participation in the crime, but also having any knowledge
of the same at the relevant time”.

The 308-page judgement does not refer to any direct involvement of Chautala
or Ajay. Chautala has been convicted on the basis of the statement of IAS
officer Sanjiv Kumar, whose each and every argument has been rejected by the
court, except the fact that “Chautala called him for breakfast and asked him to
change the list of candidates”. In case of Ajay, the judgement reads that Ajay
was present in meetings where there was talk about the lists being altered, but
Ajay never once asked anyone to change the lists. His presence in the meetings
is taken as his being the mastermind behind changing of the lists.

The judgement acknowledges that Chautala did state to the court that IAS
officers Sanjiv Kumar and Rajni Sekhri Sibal were “playing in the hands of their
political opponents namely Bhupinder Singh Hooda, the present Chief Minister of
Haryana and earlier the main Opposition leader belonging to the Indian National
Congress party, in connivance with another politicians like Karan Dalal and
Kapil Sibal”.

Denying any role, the Congress has started a campaign that suggests that the
HJC leadership is behind the speeding up of the trial. This, they say, has been
done to prevent all possibilities, though remote, of the BJP having a re-think
on its poll alliance with the HJC and forming one with the INLD prior to the
2014 Parliamentary and Vidhan Sabha elections.

The INLD has decided to highlight relevant portions of the judgement that
support their proposed campaign to turn Chautalas into heroes.

One such para reads, “Though, it is true that there is no evidence that they
took any bribe from any candidate nor there is any evidence to show that they
favoured any of his relatives but there is enough evidence to show that their
political and bureaucratic bosses intended to cause wrongful gain to some
candidates and wrongful loss to the other candidates”.
In plain English, the INLD plans to translate this to read that the party
leadership cares for its supporters, workers and their well being. “Is it a
crime to fulfil the needs and aspirations of the party workers?” is an argument
given out by the party think tank.

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singhvp
January 20th, 2013, 02:36 AM
हरियाणा मै सरकारी नौकरियों का खुल्ला व्यापारीकरण और भाई-भतीजा-बटेऊवाद शुरू से ही रहा है I राजनेताओं के इस गोरख-धंधे पर लगाम जितनी जल्दी और सख्ती से कसी जाये उतनी ही गरीब और किसान तबके के बच्चों के लिए अच्छी I इस काले धंधे में कौन लपेटे में आता है इसके कोई खास मायने नहीं हैं, चाहे वो कोई जाटों का मसीहा की क्यों ना हो I अपराध की सजा जाति और धर्म के आधार पर नहीं होनी चाहिए I हमें इतना अफ़सोस करने की जरूरत नहीं होनी चाहिए थी I इस काले धंधे के कारण कितने ही काबिल लड़के लडकियां रोजगार से महरूम रह जाते हैं इसका शायद कुछ हमदर्दों को इल्म नहीं I The recruitment system should be transparent, fair and fool-proof based on merit.

Samarkadian
January 20th, 2013, 08:54 AM
आहा मैं पहली बार सच्चे और निर्भीक जाट यहाँ देख रहा हूँ अच्छा है चर्चा जरुरी है , मगर मित्रों जरा सोचों अरबो रूपये डकारने वाले और कोंग्रेस को सपोर्ट करने वाले मुलायम और मायावती "बंटी और बबली" उत्तर प्रदेश व केंद्र में मजे ले रहे है और हमारे वाले को 74 वर्ष की आयु में अंदर कर दिया । जाटों एक हो जाओं , थारा काल आ गया है

कित सिक पहुँच लिया यो काल कुल ? कमजोर ए कालजा ले रा स भाई बेरा न कड़े का स! तेरे कहन का मतलब स इस थ्रेड त न्यारे जाट भीरु एवं झूठे तथा नकली है ?

sanjeev_balyan
January 20th, 2013, 10:39 AM
जहाँ तक मैं जनता हू हुडा भी उतना ही जाट है जितना चौटाला तो ये म्हारे वाला आर थारे वाला बनने के मानक के है?

Vikas , piyush is asking something else, he didnt use mahare wala to Chautala with reference to Hooda. but you always reply as per yr aim instead of question.
he is not asking the mahara thara relation between chautala and hooda. Both are in mahara thara category of haryana jats area wise or so

अगर केंदर सरकार को जीवन दान देने में इनलो की स्तिथि, मुलायम या मायावती जैसी होती और मुलायम / मायावती की स्तिथि चौटाला जैसी होती (मतलब केंदर को कोई फरक नहीं पड़ता)
तो आज के समाचारों में खबर होती की मुलायम/ मायावती तिहाड़ की कोठरी नम्बर ४ में है और चौटाला को वही सम्मान मिलता जो मुलायम और मायावती को दिया जा रहा है

हमारी न्याय्पलिका अभी भी ठीक है , कुछ खबरे आती है मगर उतना पतन नहीं हुआ है
लेकिन नयायपालिका तक केस को पहुँचाया जाता है सरकार दुवारा , और केस को केसे परोसा जाये ये सरकार निश्चित करती है , सीबीआई सर्कार की कठपुतली होती है

इस केस से समाज में एक अच्छा मेसेज गया है मैं तो बहुत खुस हूँ
ये खुसी बरक़रार रहेगी जब बाकि केसों में भी एसा ही देखने को मिलेगा
मगर शायद ही एसा सुन ने को मिले , क्योंकि सीबीआई किसी भी केस को उसी तरह हैंडल करती जैसा सरकार चाहती है
न्यायपालिका चाह कर भी कुछ नहीं कर सकती, क्योंकि केस को मरी हुई अवस्था में पेस किया जाता है

क्या आप विश्वास करते है की इस केस को इस अंजाम तक पहुचने में सरकार का कोई हाथ नहीं है
अगर तब से अब तक इनलो की सर्कार रहती तो क्या आज यही देखने को मिलता

krishdel
January 20th, 2013, 01:21 PM
Mr.Mohan & Others,
We need to know for whom we select the persons in Civil Services, whether they are selected by honest or unfair process, after being selected they are the one of the bad persons of society -
1.They think that by being selected they are the king and even ill treat the others
2.They are full of ego
3.They do not tolerate any other person in parallel to them , I have seen many IAS & State Civil officers that they are so jealeous of each others.
4.Hardley 5 % of seleted persons have ever faced hard living standard in life
5.They worked hard to get in exam and to get the position not to serv the society
6.All the Civil Service Candidates selected hardly constitute 5 % of rural area.

Change is required to select the candidate in civil services with
1.60% Candidates selected should be of rural background with at least primary education in rural area.
2.Psyco Test to know the social behaviour of candidate
3.Ability the shed the Ego
4.School Performance

Why we select the Candidate from 10% of population to rule the 70% of population living in Rural.


Regards to all JAT Members
Krishan Lakra





BS Hooda did the similar thing in HCS exam 2009.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/corruption-nepotism-cloud-haryana-civil-services-merit-list/740789/0

http://iasaspirant.wordpress.com/

HPSC organized HCS-2009 exam under aegis of new chairman [Mr. Batra who later replaced by Mr. R D Sheokand] but HPSC failed to meet standard of Transparency and Accountability. Commission charged a fee of Rs. 1000/candidate when UPSC charged Rs. 20/candidate for same. Commission didn’t allow candidates to take away question papers neither in Prelims nor in Mains. May I ask why..??? Once again when final result of HCS-2009 was declared by HPSC on 4thJan 2011, History repeated itself and most influential candidates (Close relatives of Board Members, Political Leaders and Bureaucrats) sailed through. INLD (Main Opposition Political Party) came with an advance list of 15 names on 21st December 2010 who would get selected and socking reality is that 10 names out of them are in the list of successful candidatesList of some favoured candidates in HCS-2009 Exam:-**This time written carried 600 marks and interview carried 75 marks


Apart from above mentioned candidates several other candidates who are close to either Politicians or Bureaucrats made it in list of successful candidates. They all are supposed to join on 18th Jan 2011. Many deserving candidates, who did very well in the written test, were intentionally given low marks in the interview either to push their rank low or kick them out. For instance candidate with Roll No-1184 has secured 411 marks in the written test but only 18 in the interview. Similarly, a candidate bearing Roll No- 2069 secured 409 marks in the written test but only 11 in the interview. There is very high variation in marks awarded in interview from minimum 10 to maximum 66. It will be not wrong we say that HCS stands for “Hidden Civil Services”.

piush_tomar
January 20th, 2013, 06:01 PM
जहाँ तक मैं जनता हू हुडा भी उतना ही जाट है जितना चौटाला तो ये म्हारे वाला आर थारे वाला बनने के मानक के है?

मित्र अगर बंटी और बबली अंदर होते में कभी "अपना" "हमारे वाला" शब्द का उपयोग न करता किन्तु चौटाला राजनितिक रूप से आज न भाजपा के साथ है न कांग्रेस के साथ , इसलिए सीबीआई की कारवाई भी तुरंत हो गयी । जब ऐसा होता है , तो मैं जरूर अपनी जाति के लिए खड़ा हुंगा , चाहे वोह एक जाट नेता हो या एक आम जाट।
धन्यवाद

jaisingh318
January 20th, 2013, 06:53 PM
INLD to capitalise on JBT
scam verdict
Naveen S
Garewal
Tribune News Service


Chandigarh, January 19
The conviction of former Haryana Chief Minister and
Indian National Loki Dal (INLD) chief Om Parkash Chautala and his MLA son Ajay
Chautala along with others in the JBT recruitment scam has taken a political
twist with the party capitalising on judgement that says that recruitments were
done purely “for adjusting their own people” and “no bribe was paid or taken” to
provide jobs to the selected 3,206 JBT teachers.

“Chautala and his son have gone to jail for a secure future of their
supporters and their kin” is the new mantra of the INLD that aims to cash in on
the judgement that is considered too weak to keep the father-son duo behind bars
for long. On the other hand, based on the feeling that the judgement has no
concrete evidence against the Chautalas and a lot of emphasis is laid on
“presumptions”, both the Congress and the Haryana Janhit Congress (HJC) have
started a blame game on the issue of “motives behind the timing of the
judgement”.

Contrary to popular belief that the INLD has suffered a big setback owing to
the jail term for the top INLD leadership and their close aids, the issue may
actually boomerang and create a “sympathy factor” for the party.

Om Parkash Chautala, in his statement before the CBI court at Rohini in Delhi
that convicted him, denied any knowledge or his role in the scam. The order
reads, “Om Prakash Chautala, Ajay Singh Chautala and Sher Singh Badshami have
denied not only their participation in the crime, but also having any knowledge
of the same at the relevant time”.

The 308-page judgement does not refer to any direct involvement of Chautala
or Ajay. Chautala has been convicted on the basis of the statement of IAS
officer Sanjiv Kumar, whose each and every argument has been rejected by the
court, except the fact that “Chautala called him for breakfast and asked him to
change the list of candidates”. In case of Ajay, the judgement reads that Ajay
was present in meetings where there was talk about the lists being altered, but
Ajay never once asked anyone to change the lists. His presence in the meetings
is taken as his being the mastermind behind changing of the lists.

The judgement acknowledges that Chautala did state to the court that IAS
officers Sanjiv Kumar and Rajni Sekhri Sibal were “playing in the hands of their
political opponents namely Bhupinder Singh Hooda, the present Chief Minister of
Haryana and earlier the main Opposition leader belonging to the Indian National
Congress party, in connivance with another politicians like Karan Dalal and
Kapil Sibal”.

Denying any role, the Congress has started a campaign that suggests that the
HJC leadership is behind the speeding up of the trial. This, they say, has been
done to prevent all possibilities, though remote, of the BJP having a re-think
on its poll alliance with the HJC and forming one with the INLD prior to the
2014 Parliamentary and Vidhan Sabha elections.

The INLD has decided to highlight relevant portions of the judgement that
support their proposed campaign to turn Chautalas into heroes.

One such para reads, “Though, it is true that there is no evidence that they
took any bribe from any candidate nor there is any evidence to show that they
favoured any of his relatives but there is enough evidence to show that their
political and bureaucratic bosses intended to cause wrongful gain to some
candidates and wrongful loss to the other candidates”.
In plain English, the INLD plans to translate this to read that the party
leadership cares for its supporters, workers and their well being. “Is it a
crime to fulfil the needs and aspirations of the party workers?” is an argument
given out by the party think tank.

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asli khoota iss sanjiv kumar ka tokkya hoi s....iss list m 25 naam add karya tha paisa lay k jo choutala sahab n katway orr dahmkaya tha sare amm.
haryana ki hakkiqat h koi bhi jat cm nakuri k liye paissa nahi leta....

rinkusheoran
January 20th, 2013, 10:35 PM
This case was started by cbi in 99-2000 when NDA was in power and Chautala's INLD was part of it. ebb udde setting kyun na kari ?CBI ko congress Bureau of investigation kahne ka ebb k fayda? .Pahle corruption kari n uper tai murkhata bhi ??

Ya to wah ho ri sai ki kutte ki lath mara kise aur na n roya mhare ghar aagey to mhare k galti ?

rinkusheoran
January 20th, 2013, 10:39 PM
haryana ki hakkiqat h koi bhi jat cm nakuri k liye paissa nahi leta....

Pachle MP elction ki baat ahi Shri Ajay Chautala ek ghar mein vote mangane chala gye n kaha ki aap ladka lagwaya tha humari sarkar ne to vote do aap hume. Agle ne aisa sidha jawab dia tha ' k free mein lagwaya tha paise diye the meri marji tain vote gerunga' ebb vo paise kon leta hai ye to pta nhi lekin hua INLD sarkar mein tha n na pta ho to apne kisi aaka se puch lena jo election mein Ajay k sath the:)

desijat
January 20th, 2013, 11:13 PM
This case was started by cbi in 99-2000 when NDA was in power and Chautala's INLD was part of it. ebb udde setting kyun na kari ?CBI ko congress Bureau of investigation kahne ka ebb k fayda? .Pahle corruption kari n uper tai murkhata bhi ??


Aur bhai khati to CBI bhi hai, jo agle ki neet hi na ho pisa chodhne ki to jail hi hovegi :tongue:

jaisingh318
January 21st, 2013, 06:36 PM
This case was started by cbi in 99-2000 when NDA was in power and Chautala's INLD was part of it.
bllay barege munchu allye ka kara dara hoga.....kyu dukti ragg chedye s

jaisingh318
January 21st, 2013, 06:41 PM
Pachle MP elction ki baat ahi Shri Ajay Chautala ek ghar mein vote mangane chala gye n kaha ki aap ladka lagwaya tha humari sarkar ne to vote do aap hume. Agle ne aisa sidha jawab dia tha ' k free mein lagwaya tha paise diye the meri marji tain vote gerunga' ebb vo paise kon leta hai ye to pta nhi lekin hua INLD sarkar mein tha n na pta ho to apne kisi aaka se puch lena jo election mein Ajay k sath the:)
jitne muh utni baat .............paissa laker koi kisse kay ghar ja kar vote na mang sakta ya baat kahkar ki tera choora lagvaya tha.
baki phoolkumar ki post m clear h ki bribe k bare m court n kya kha h.

vicky84
January 22nd, 2013, 03:11 AM
Ye dekh lo B.S Hooda ke karnaame(Corruption in HPSC):

HPSC apologises in HC for false info
Manish Sirhindi
Tribune News Service
Yamunanagar, January 21
Providing false information to one of the aspirants for the job of college principal has landed the Haryana State Public Service Commission (HPSC) in soup as the authorities had to file a written apology in the Punjab and Haryana High Court for the discrepancy.
Dr Anil Kumar, a local resident with adequate experience in teaching, had applied for the post of college principal which had been advertised by the HPSC in 2010. However, Kumar did not get selected and he put up an RTI with the HPSC seeking his score in the interview and the criteria for the selection.
Anil Kumar claimed that in reply to the RTI, the HPSC informed that he had scored 34 marks in the interview, which if added to the numbers awarded to him for his experience and qualification, made him eligible for getting selected for the post.
On the basis of this information, Anil Kumar challenged the selection procedure in the high court, which sought a reply from the commission. In its reply, the commission stated that Anil Kumar had been provided wrong information and that he had scored 31 marks in the interview.
Anil Kumar said in the name of the criteria, he was provided with a performa, which was meant for the selection of the managers (planning) in the HSIDC, a copy of which was produced by him. He said the commission failed to produce any documents about the criteria for the post of the college principal. The commission again advertised five posts of college principals in 2012 and he again applied for the same. This time before appearing for the interview, Kumar sought details about the criteria for selections, under the RTI. However, the commission informed him that no criteria had so far been set. Kumar said when the UPSC and other government and semi-government agencies had set criteria for the selection of senior officials, then why did the HPSC have no criteria for the selection of college principals. He said providing false information under the RTI was also a serious matter as it reflected poorly on the commission. Kumar also contended that as per the recommendations of the UGC, only 20 per cent marks should have been allotted for the interview, but the commission had allotted 60 per cent marks for the interview while only 40 per cent were allotted for experience and qualifications.

desijat
January 22nd, 2013, 10:32 AM
Om Prakash Chautala sentenced for 10 years, that is a bit too harsh I believe.

If sentence is not changed then his political career is over.

vicky84
January 22nd, 2013, 10:57 AM
Om Prakash Chautala sentenced for 10 years, that is a bit too harsh I believe.

If sentence is not changed then his political career is over.

He can still appeal in High court and then supreme court.

desijat
January 22nd, 2013, 11:13 AM
Court appreciated CBIs investigation in the case.

cooljat
January 22nd, 2013, 02:43 PM
I appreciate it too but what about Kalmaadi, Raja, Manmohan, Chidambram and all other culprits from UPA govt?
Shouldn't they deserve at least life term for their crimes?


Court appreciated CBIs investigation in the case.

sunnytewatia
January 22nd, 2013, 03:01 PM
Court appreciated CBIs investigation in the case.


CBI = congres bureau of investigation

sunnytewatia
January 22nd, 2013, 03:02 PM
He can still appeal in High court and then supreme court. but despite his appeal and status of appeal - even if he is aquitted, he can not contest for 6 years. This is based on current judgement itself and future aquittal wil not help. this is what i heard.

sunnytewatia
January 22nd, 2013, 03:09 PM
they will be convicted only and only if they do not hail mata sonia. mata sonia ji manages congres and cbi.
I appreciate it too but what about Kalmaadi, Raja, Manmohan, Chidambram and all other culprits from UPA govt?
Shouldn't they deserve at least life term for their crimes?

sunnytewatia
January 22nd, 2013, 03:11 PM
forget abt his career. what abt your careir in mata sonia's chamcha list - getting some promotion or not. you hv been biggest congres chamcha on jatland. hay hay haya hay


Om Prakash Chautala sentenced for 10 years, that is a bit too harsh I believe.

If sentence is not changed then his political career is over.

Sumitdahiya123
January 22nd, 2013, 05:46 PM
just want to say one thing jab jab tum jaso ne ye kakha party khatam ya phir inld k neta khatam tab tab inhone jabardast wapsi ki h issi jatland par 2009 k election par tum jasie log inld ki 2 seats b nahi aane ki baat karte the aur resutl ne tum jase loge par tala laga diya. bhai ye jat h jat jo mulayam ya mayawati ki tarah sonia k kadmo mein jane ki bajay samay aane par dikha dega chahe kitna jor lagolo ye mar jayenge leking jhukenge nahi.

bishanleo2001
January 22nd, 2013, 06:16 PM
so what if he can't contest..... ab to dushyant chautala n others bhee bade ho liye hai............
but despite his appeal and status of appeal - even if he is aquitted, he can not contest for 6 years. This is based on current judgement itself and future aquittal wil not help. this is what i heard.

desijat
January 22nd, 2013, 07:52 PM
CBI = congres bureau of investigation

May be, but courts are not

desijat
January 22nd, 2013, 07:53 PM
forget abt his career. what abt your careir in mata sonia's chamcha list - getting some promotion or not. you hv been biggest congres chamcha on jatland. hay hay haya hay

Sunny- I will pass that to your frustration, cheers to your sense of replies.

desijat
January 22nd, 2013, 07:55 PM
so what if he can't contest..... ab to dushyant chautala n others bhee bade ho liye hai............

Wouldnt that be family politics? Which most of the people here blame congress or Nehru Gandhi parivaar for?

rajneesh69
January 22nd, 2013, 08:31 PM
i request all elite jats here please understand this is a politics against jats please visulige chronology of events

kunwar natwar singh of rajastan out of politics

maderna ji thrown out by conspiracy

badal sahab under scan in punjab

choutalas out as they newer bowed to congress

ajit singh in u.p. fighting and ultimately bowing to congress

please understand jats will be soon out of power if a strong social organisation of jats will not be there

please analyse and give your views

desijat
January 22nd, 2013, 09:11 PM
Rajneesh,

It must be only a co-incidene that most of the Jat leaders you mentioned are corrupt and it is not for the government but Jat people themselves who endorse this.

I come from Western UP and I can see so do you, are you satisfied with what Ajit Singh has done for the region? Among one of his achievements is the fact that he has been with every party, the legacy his father left to him is not even 1% to what it used to be.


i request all elite jats here please understand this is a politics against jats please visulige chronology of events

kunwar natwar singh of rajastan out of politics

maderna ji thrown out by conspiracy

badal sahab under scan in punjab

choutalas out as they newer bowed to congress

ajit singh in u.p. fighting and ultimately bowing to congress

please understand jats will be soon out of power if a strong social organisation of jats will not be there

please analyse and give your views

desijat
January 22nd, 2013, 09:14 PM
they will be convicted only and only if they do not hail mata sonia. mata sonia ji manages congres and cbi.

Mr. Tewatia, this information is exclusively for you and a few other who are ignorant to facts and like to take things as per their comfort.

The case against Mr. Chautala was registered in court when NDA was in power, Courts then asked CBI to investigate. CBI investigated and submitted the charge-sheet again later. So basically, the whole case was lodged and charges were framed when both the likelihoods were in power.

To add more accuracy:

Year 2000 - Chautala Government appointed 3032 JBT Teachers.

The CBI had registered a case against 62 officials and politicians on May 24, 2004.

After 2 Years
June 6 2008
The CBI had filed the chargesheet in the case charging the accused under
Sections 120B (criminal conspiracy),
420 (cheating),
467 (forgery),
468 (forgery for cheating),
471 (use of forged document showing it as genuine) of the Indian Penal Code (IPC) and under the provisions of the Prevention of Corruption Act (PCA), 1988.

None of the charges to me seem inapplicable, are they?

rskankara
January 22nd, 2013, 09:40 PM
जाटों ( चाहे किसी प्रदेश का हो) को अहंकार, गुरूर विरासत मे मिला है , समझौता करना आता नही, सब मे मै -मेरी कि मै बड़ा नेता ....चौधरी सहाब (चरण सिंह) काफी समय तक सब तो साथ ले कर चले.... ताऊ ने भी कोशिश की ........फिर टिकेत आये..... पर बिखराव बड़ता ही गया, और आपस में एक-दूसरे तो कमजोर कराते रहे, अब सब अपनी अपनी खाट बचाने में लगे है अन्यथा अगर सभी जाट एक हो जाय, तो 50 एमपी संसद मे होंगे, दिल्ली की सल्तनत बिना जाटों के चल नही सकती !!!




please understand jats will be soon out of power if a strong social organisation of jats will not be there

please analyse and give your views

vicky84
January 23rd, 2013, 02:04 AM
It is a big setback for INLD. INLD needs strong leadership or perhaps an overhaul! Otherwise party may not be able to compete and survive. Building strong leadership takes time(not an overnight job). Party might get some sympathy in coming elections but effective leadership is a big concern.

desijat
January 23rd, 2013, 02:44 AM
INLD needs strong leadership or perhaps an overhaul! Otherwise party may not be able to compete and survive.

At the risk of attracting criticism I will have to say this.

I can not think of a single party besides Congress which has lived upto the legacy of first generation leaders. Political legacy is hard to digest or get used to, more so because the second generation leaders have not been through the hardships their elders did.

Tau Devi Lal, Chaudhary Charan Singh are fine examples to quote among jats and if we go beyond we can get more names.

vicky84
January 23rd, 2013, 03:12 AM
At the risk of attracting criticism I will have to say this.

I can not think of a single party besides Congress which has lived upto the legacy of first generation leaders. Political legacy is hard to digest or get used to, more so because the second generation leaders have not been through the hardships their elders did.

Tau Devi Lal, Chaudhary Charan Singh are fine examples to quote among jats and if we go beyond we can get more names.

This is biggest problem country is facing. There is no strong opposition to counter congress.Tyranny of congress has made country very weak. Corruption flourished due to power vested in handful people. It is very unfortunate that country does not have a strong alternate to provide a check and balance on monster congress.

SALURAM
January 23rd, 2013, 11:45 AM
congress= congrape party
cbi ka rape kar rahi congress......

sunnytewatia
January 23rd, 2013, 03:17 PM
Dont try to twist the facts my dear soo called desi jat (huh).

The case was initiated because a GREEDY IAS officer couldnt get his 25 names added to the list of selection and hence was frustrated.The fact that the case was registered during NDA etc is not a valid argument. Later CBI - which was in hands of CONGRESS MATA SONIA - exploited this case and twisted CBI's arm as much as she could... OK?

Also, If you r saying that this is not CBI but a court verdict --- then my friend you need to learn a lot abt the case ---- as the decision is from not a sessions court but a CBI court....... when CBI can be under pressure then why not CBI court.....

Dont forget chotalaz hv right to appeal in high court and surely justice will prevail. If they hv done something wrong - they shud be punished hard.... but at the same time - you can not shy away from the truth that MATA SONIA is controlling CBI.........



Mr. Tewatia, this information is exclusively for you and a few other who are ignorant to facts and like to take things as per their comfort.

The case against Mr. Chautala was registered in court when NDA was in power, Courts then asked CBI to investigate. CBI investigated and submitted the charge-sheet again later. So basically, the whole case was lodged and charges were framed when both the likelihoods were in power.

To add more accuracy:

Year 2000 - Chautala Government appointed 3032 JBT Teachers.

The CBI had registered a case against 62 officials and politicians on May 24, 2004.

After 2 Years
June 6 2008
The CBI had filed the chargesheet in the case charging the accused under
Sections 120B (criminal conspiracy),
420 (cheating),
467 (forgery),
468 (forgery for cheating),
471 (use of forged document showing it as genuine) of the Indian Penal Code (IPC) and under the provisions of the Prevention of Corruption Act (PCA), 1988.

None of the charges to me seem inapplicable, are they?

phoolkumar
January 23rd, 2013, 05:13 PM
jahaan tak meri samjh kaam karti hai, ismen mata soniya se jyada in maamlon ki provocation ke peechhe 3B (Bappa, Brahmins and Baniya) gangs hain....warna mata Sonia against hoti to Bhajan Lal ko hata Hooda ko CM na laati aur naa hi second term deti Hooda ko......so 3B is all what is harming us......

Another historical fact is that Jats were closely associated to good will of foreigners and so does with Sonia (Ch. Virender Singh though not a reputed person among many jats but still is one of closest to Sonia) also.....I may be wrong but as perception this all is the game of 3B....aur jaise ki pahle bhi kai baar indicate kiya hai maine, aaj is PM ko change kar do aur dekho Jats par se focus kaise turn le jayega......Sonia ka consent ho sakta hai but provocation 3B kar raha hai, in saare mamlon mein.....otherwise Sonia ne to Kunwar Natwar Singh of Foreign Minister banaya tha aur itna bada aur taja ghotala bhi nahin tha jismen Natwar Singh ka naam aaya tha but is Bappe PM ne usko hataane mein ek minute na lagaai jabki 3B gang ke itne bade-bade ghaag abhi bhi apni posts pe baithe hain even promotion bhi le gaye......unka ye PM kuchh nahin kar raha.....moreover CBI PM ke under hoti hai.....

South Delhi MP of 2004 Ch. Sajjan Singh ka naam aur Sahib Singh Varma ka car accident bhool gaye aap is list mein add karne ke liye....

Sonia ka consent ho sakta hai but mind-game in 3Bs ka hai ye....


i request all elite jats here please understand this is a politics against jats please visulige chronology of events

kunwar natwar singh of rajastan out of politics

maderna ji thrown out by conspiracy

badal sahab under scan in punjab

choutalas out as they newer bowed to congress

ajit singh in u.p. fighting and ultimately bowing to congress

please understand jats will be soon out of power if a strong social organisation of jats will not be there

please analyse and give your views

vikkisingh
January 23rd, 2013, 08:08 PM
jaisa phoolkumar ne kaha

sahi hai sonia ek politician hai ..wo jatton se ya kisi bhi kaum se kyon dushmani legi
jatton ki itni vote hain usko na to koi jarorrat hai balki bahut bada nuksaan hai jatton ko naraaz kar ke


wo sirf calculation karti hai (desi jama ghata) jahan jisko jitna wajan dena hai deti hai or jatton ko bhi utna hi
jat neta hi kamjor ho to wo use kyon legi
hooda cm hai 10 saal se ...wo kya jatt koni balki wo bhajan lal se chide thi warna sabne bera hai pehli baar to bhajno ke saath bhatere MLA the ar kai jaat bhi the

birender singh ki badhiya izzat hai national level pe wo bhi tab jabki wo khud chunaav haar gaya tha ..
natwar singh ki poori chalti thi ...koi kaami hi koni thi

us khad dimag ne aarop lagne pe soniya ka naam le diya....soniya kya us khatar apna political chulha bhuja leti???



aapka 3b wala tark mujhe ghana koni jacha
mere hisab se to jaat ekjut koni ar jatt politician mai wo baat na hai jo ch devilal mai ya charan singh mai thi
ajit singh ka hisab hum sarron ke samne hai

desijat
January 23rd, 2013, 08:11 PM
But which other Party has jats in leadership besides Congress, can someone please elaborate on that?

After Mr. Verma, BJP has seen no big Jat leader, Sompal Shashtri was growing but was not allowed to and ultimately joined BSP. BSP, SP neither have a jat leader, in fact they give most tickets to brahmins/SCs on Jat dominated seats like Bagpat.

desijat
January 23rd, 2013, 08:13 PM
Hmmmm, I rest my case. Though dont say it in public, you might be sued for it.





Also, If you r saying that this is not CBI but a court verdict --- then my friend you need to learn a lot abt the case ---- as the decision is from not a sessions court but a CBI court....... when CBI can be under pressure then why not CBI court.....

Arvindc
January 23rd, 2013, 09:37 PM
Hmmmm, I rest my case. Though dont say it in public, you might be sued for it.

That would be shame on the regime and the party for which you advocate so much.

Looting public money in billions and then shutting up people's voice are the time tested methods for a launch pad of an insurgent nation. I wonder if India is soon after Afghanistan, Mali,... ??

desijat
January 23rd, 2013, 10:04 PM
That would be shame on the regime and the party for which you advocate so much.

Looting public money in billions and then shutting up people's voice are the time tested methods for a launch pad of an insurgent nation. I wonder if India is soon after Afghanistan, Mali,... ??

Read again Arvind to what I quoted him on. I quoted him on questioning the courts intentions, not government.

And No, India will not be a ruthless nation but have you thought what kind of place are we really becoming? We never want to see anything with a fair eye but through out built perceptions.

Please remember: You build perceptions, dont let perceptions build you

rinkusheoran
January 24th, 2013, 07:42 AM
bllay barege munchu allye ka kara dara hoga.....kyu dukti ragg chedye s

WOuld you miind explaining what you have written highlighted in bold and how come you have not posted even once after verdict?

sunnytewatia
January 24th, 2013, 09:47 AM
That I agree. If mama sonia or her chamchaz read this - they can presusirse CBI to lift me frm my house nd put me in jail. you know mata sonia very closely dear desi.

Hmmmm, I rest my case. Though dont say it in public, you might be sued for it.

Fateh
January 24th, 2013, 10:42 AM
It is a big setback for INLD. INLD needs strong leadership or perhaps an overhaul! Otherwise party may not be able to compete and survive. Building strong leadership takes time(not an overnight job). Party might get some sympathy in coming elections but effective leadership is a big concern.
Brother, from where the leadership will come, they never allowed any body to develop in the party, they always preferred chamchas, un educated and brainless people, most of their so called leaders do not enjoy good reputation, INLD IS CHAUTALA sahab and it will go with chautala sahab, it a big loss to Haryana and jats particularly because it will help Bhajan family, which is biggest enemy of jats

vicky84
January 24th, 2013, 10:48 AM
Brother, from where the leadership will come, they never allowed any body to develop in the party, they always preferred chamchas, un educated and brainless people, most of their so called leaders do not enjoy good reputation, INLD IS CHAUTALA sahab and it will go with chautala sahab, it a big loss to Haryana and jats particularly because it will help Bhajan family, which is biggest enemy of jats
Agree with your points. Consequences are in front of them. If they are not willing to learn or change, they will get the results accordingly. As fundamental laws of politics never bend!!!

pritpal
January 25th, 2013, 03:08 AM
Regional political parties are getting crushed as they try to Akali Dal in 80es. Congress & BJP getting away riots in New Delhi & Gujrat. Politics & Media is run over by corporate system, no one can run politics with out wealth compete with politicians funded by corporations. Nikolas Sarkozy's election was funded by Muammar Gaddafi who knows who pay for everyone else.

Chatuala stand with Khap & social values these kind politicians are target of corporate world welling to spread social junk. Politics, Media is run over by corporate world. Congress run by Sonia agent of West want us to tangle in social issues, so they can loot us through Swiss Banks rather than East India

desijat
January 25th, 2013, 03:21 AM
Regional political parties are getting crushed as they try to Akali Dal in 80es.

On the contrary I find this regional party system the main reason for most of the corruption. Akalis, INLD, SP, BSP, AIADMK, DMK etc etc etc have always made headlines for their corruption and the reason attributed is simple rotation of power and benefits of divided public.

Here is the invisible side of regional politics: the buying and selling of MLAs and MPs happen because of fragmentation of votes by regional parties. Parties with 2-3-4 MPs do not support any govt for nothing, ministerships plus money is often bartered. Also, it is due to the regional party system that government can not take strict actions. In first term Left abandoned UPA on all decisions related to US, even those which were thoroughly in our favor and in UPA 2 Mamta's fiascos are well known.

Regional parties ke sandharb main arz hai:

राम नाम की लूट है लूट सके तो लूट... कल को फिर पछताएगा जब कुर्सी जाएगी छूट

In my opinion regional parties should be restricted to state level elections at best.

kapdal
January 25th, 2013, 03:49 AM
On the contrary I find this regional party system the main reason for most of the corruption. Akalis, INLD, SP, BSP, AIADMK, DMK etc etc etc have always made headlines for their corruption and the reason attributed is simple rotation of power and benefits of divided public.

Here is the invisible side of regional politics: the buying and selling of MLAs and MPs happen because of fragmentation of votes by regional parties. Parties with 2-3-4 MPs do not support any govt for nothing, ministerships plus money is often bartered. Also, it is due to the regional party system that government can not take strict actions. In first term Left abandoned UPA on all decisions related to US, even those which were thoroughly in our favor and in UPA 2 Mamta's fiascos are well known.

Regional parties ke sandharb main arz hai:

राम नाम की लूट है लूट सके तो लूट... कल को फिर पछताएगा जब कुर्सी जाएगी छूट

Regional parties are corrupt in an unsophisticated way. National parties are corrupt in a sophisticated way. The avenues of corruption available to National parties are hardly available to regional parties. How do you ask for a bribe in a corporate shop, when the headquarter is outside the state? How do you control a media that sits in Delhi?

The national party will directly talk to the bosses at the national level. That is why regional parties ask for portfolios like Telecom (DMK) so that they can take a bigger bite that is just not available on their turf. I don't know the details of this case and it is nice to see any politician getting convicted for corruption. But to be honest, a scam of JBT teachers recruitments looks like a petty crime when compared to 2G, Coalgate, etc. It is an order of magnitude difference.

sunnytewatia
January 25th, 2013, 08:49 AM
For those who are trying to prove that after chotala is sent to jail, politics is clear of corruption and favoritism as only National Party Congress will prevail, Please check today's news paper!! And yes, this is not the only case - there hv been at least 4-5 such cases on huda sab.

चेयरमैन व सदस्यों की नियुक्ति नियम विरुद्ध



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Prikshit
January 25th, 2013, 09:59 AM
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Om-Prakash-Chautalas-ancestors-came-from-Rajasthan/articleshow/18175626.cms

vicky84
January 25th, 2013, 05:04 PM
For those who are trying to prove that after chotala is sent to jail, politics is clear of corruption and favoritism as only National Party Congress will prevail, Please check today's news paper!! And yes, this is not the only case - there hv been at least 4-5 such cases on huda sab.

चेयरमैन व सदस्यों की नियुक्ति नियम विरुद्ध



चंडीगढ़ : पंजाब एवं हरियाणा हाई कोर्ट ने शुक्रवार को जनहित याचिका पर सुनवाई करते हुए कहा कि हरियाणा टैक्स टिब्यूनल में चेयरमैन और सदस्यों की नियुक्ति नियमों व सुप्रीम कोर्ट के निर्णय के खिलाफ है। चीफ जस्टिस एके सिकरी पर आधारित खंडपीठ ने हरियाणा के एडवोकेट जनरल हवा सिंह को निर्देश दिया कि वह एक सप्ताह में सभी पदों पर नए सिरे से नियुक्ति के लिए सरकार से दिशा-निर्देश लेकर कोर्ट को बताएं और नियुक्ति में कोर्ट की सलाह लें। खंडपीठ ने कहा कि पिछले साल सुप्रीम कोर्ट ने गुजरात राजस्व आयोग के चेयरमैन के बारे में जो फैसला दिया था, उसके तहत यह नियुक्ति नियमों के खिलाफ हैं। इस मामले में हाई कोर्ट सीएम भूपेंद्र सिंह हुड्डा समेत हरियाणा टैक्स टिब्यूनल के चेयरमैन, तीन सदस्यों व प्रदेश सरकार को नोटिस जारी कर जवाब मांग चुका है। याचिकाकर्ता ने सीएम पर आरोप लगाया है कि उन्होंने भाई-भतीजावाद के कारण एक सदस्य युद्धवीर सिंह को दूसरे कार्यकाल के लिए नियुक्ति को मंजूरी दी। याचिकाकर्ता ने कहा कि युद्धवीर सिंह एडवोकेट जनरल के साले हैं और सीएम ने उसे दूसरे कार्यकाल के लिए नियुक्ति दी। हाई कोर्ट ने केएस भौरिया को अध्यक्ष और सुभाष कौशिक, मुकेश लता गुप्ता व युद्धवीर सिंह को सदस्य के तौर पर नियुक्त करने में कानून प्रक्रिया की अवेहलना पर कड़ा रुख अपनाते हुए सरकार से जवाब मांगा था।
I agee with you Sunny bhai. Bhuppi is no less. If you look at all recruitments under congress rule since 2005 you will find similar cases nepotism and favouritism. Its just a matter of time.

uditnhe
January 25th, 2013, 09:58 PM
It's a verdict in the lower courts.....wait till it comes to a reappeal. I don't think they are going to spend 1 day of that verdict. Maybe they will get bail not that quickly and spend a few months in jail, but they will not go to jail and they wil keep doing this for the rest of their lives.

Unless we put our foot down.....and stop being the sycophants that we are. They are thieves and corrupt, some even say murderers, but they will never serve 1 day of the verdict in jail.

piush_tomar
January 26th, 2013, 01:42 AM
You forgot one name RLD, though its not even a Regional Party, but a 1 district Party :)
WikiLeaks: Congress bought MPs for trust vote over nuclear deal
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/wikileaks-congress-bought-mps-for-trust-vote-over-nuclear-deal-92275

piush_tomar
January 26th, 2013, 01:44 AM
On the contrary I find this regional party system the main reason for most of the corruption. Akalis, INLD, SP, BSP, AIADMK, DMK etc etc etc have always made headlines for their corruption and the reason attributed is simple rotation of power and benefits of divided public.

Here is the invisible side of regional politics: the buying and selling of MLAs and MPs happen because of fragmentation of votes by regional parties. Parties with 2-3-4 MPs do not support any govt for nothing, ministerships plus money is often bartered. Also, it is due to the regional party system that government can not take strict actions. In first term Left abandoned UPA on all decisions related to US, even those which were thoroughly in our favor and in UPA 2 Mamta's fiascos are well known.

Regional parties ke sandharb main arz hai:

राम नाम की लूट है लूट सके तो लूट... कल को फिर पछताएगा जब कुर्सी जाएगी छूट

In my opinion regional parties should be restricted to state level elections at best.

You forgot one name RLD, though its not even a Regional Party, but a 1 district Party.
WikiLeaks: Congress bought MPs for trust vote over nuclear deal
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/wi...ear-deal-92275

rskankara
January 26th, 2013, 04:44 AM
क्या जनाब, 1 जिले की पार्टी के 5 एमपी हो सकते है ?


You forgot one name RLD, though its not even a Regional Party, but a 1 district Party.
WikiLeaks: Congress bought MPs for trust vote over nuclear deal
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/wi...ear-deal-92275

rinkusheoran
January 26th, 2013, 07:55 AM
Vaise ek baat samjhane wali hai ki jab jaton ne reservation k liye andolan kia to Chautala sahib ko sabhi jatiyon ki chinta thi n jato k liye kabhi nhi kha ki Jato ko aarkshan do lekin aaj kuch unke supporter keh rahe hain ki Jat neta ander kar dia .Vo ek alag baat hai ki jab khud mukhaymantri the to 99 mein ye keh k mukar gyae ki jaton ko aarkshan dengey AB koi ye bataiye ki jat neta kis aadhar pe jab kabhi jaton ka support hi nhi kia? Agar Jaton ka support kia hota to aaj Aag lag jati n kuch log behka rahe hain ki sarkar aayegi to jaton ka bhala hoga. ye meri samajh se to bahr hai ki aagey kya bhala karengey jab piche nhi kia?

ravinderjeet
January 26th, 2013, 05:04 PM
आनंद नामक एक शिक्षक जो कि गाँव धनाना जिला भिवानी से है और 2 साल तक हरियाणा अध्यापक सघ का अध्यक्ष भी रहा है उसने साफ कहा कि उसने techr बनने के लिए 5 लाख ₹ ramkisan foji मुख्यससदिय सचिव को दिये 2011 मे अब कहा है c.b.i huda और न्यायपालिका

krishdel
January 26th, 2013, 05:41 PM
Dear Rajneesh,
A agree with that It is politics against JATS & the main conspirators are Naveen Jindal & Shaileja .
Next it will be the turn of Bhupinder Hooda to be arrested or will be out from politics

Let us assume that Chautala did it

then how much amount was involved
2000 Teachers
3,00,000 lacs each
Total : 6,000Lacs
Means Rs 60 Crores total corruption amount

Jindal manipulated more than 2 lacs Crores from natural resource in his name,
He take 75 Crores as annual salary

From where all that money is coming ,

Coal is source of energy and due to that high level corruption every Indian is paying for that corruption by paying high rate of electricity bills.

Where is CBI
Where is Court
All that CBI & Court are just nothing but enjoying by getting in media just by touching the persons who are without any my baap in national politics.

Regards
Krishan Lakra - JAT from Mundka Village








i request all elite jats here please understand this is a politics against jats please visulige chronology of events

kunwar natwar singh of rajastan out of politics

maderna ji thrown out by conspiracy

badal sahab under scan in punjab

choutalas out as they newer bowed to congress

ajit singh in u.p. fighting and ultimately bowing to congress

please understand jats will be soon out of power if a strong social organisation of jats will not be there

please analyse and give your views

krishdel
January 26th, 2013, 05:54 PM
Pannnu Ji,
You are right I agree with you, If we go to early time most of the teachers in Haryana were refugee punjaban khatri & bhappi, in any case if there is increase in teachers from rural areas then this unfair means is also good. These teachers teach mostly in villages and if by fair means 90% of teachers are from these urban mind persons then it is more harmfull, I remember when I was in my village school in class 6th & 7th I hardly found any teacher taking interest in teaching and they were doing it intentionally , they were good themselves in study and selected by fair means , only 4 teachers who were from neaarby villages took interest in teaching. Output of all those good educated teacher was 0 or -ve , and those teachers from nearby villages took the interest were giving good output.

Regards
Krishan Lakra

krishdel
January 26th, 2013, 06:09 PM
Mohan Ji,
From which village in Haryana or UP are u?
Regards
Krishan Lakra , JAT Member from Mundka Village Delhi

RavinderSura
January 26th, 2013, 07:01 PM
इस घटनाकर्म पर पिछले दिनों से हरयाणा में काफी कुछ सुनने को मिल रहा हैं की यह सब क्यों हुआ किसने करवाया आदि । कुछ लोग इसका जिम्मेवार कांग्रेस को बता रहे तो कुछ अन्य ही कारण बता रहे हैं तरह तरह की बाते निकल कर आ रही हैं ।
हरयाणा में कांग्रेस 2005 में आई हैं जबकि यह मुकदमा उससे पहले का हैं । उस वक़्त केंद्र में भाजपा थी , इस मुक़दमे पर उसी वक़्त गौर करना चाहिए था । रही बात सीबीआई की तो इसे तो हर सरकार अपने हिसाब से चलाती हैं इस बार यह कोई नया कारनामा नहीं हुआ । गुजराल , गोव्ड़ा सरकार के दौरान भी सीबीआई को ले कर काफी हंगामा रहता था , उस वक़्त जोगिन्दर सिंह इसके डायरेक्टर जरनल होते थे ।
दूसरा इस मुक़दमे में ख़ास पहलु यह भी हैं की इस मुक़दमे का जो जज हैं उनके पिताजी गिरधर गोपाल व चौटाला साहब की पुरानी खुंदक थी । गिरधर गोपाल पुलिस में थे व भजन लाल के नजदीकी थे , उन्होंने भजन लाल के लिए फतेहाबाद में बूथ कप्च्रिंग तक करवाई थी । जिसमे चौटाला साहब से उनकी काफी ठन गई थी । बताते हैं की जब गिरधर गोपाल रोहतक में थे तो चौटाला साहब ने यहाँ तक कहा था की अगर गिरधर गोपाल रिटायर भी हो गया तो भी इसकी वर्दी तो दूर इसकी हड्डिया तक निकाल लूँगा । इसलिए कुछ लोग बताते हैं की जब जज ने सजा सुनाई तो चौटाला साहब ने कहा भी की '' बेटा अपने बाप का बदला ले रहा हैं '' ।
दूसरा कारण और बताते हैं की जज विनोद ने हरियाणा की hcs परीक्षा मेरिट से पास की थी परन्तु इंटरव्यू में फ़ैल कर दिया । जब विनोद ने शेर सिंह बद्श्यामी से कहा की आप ऐसे कैसे फ़ैल कर सकते हैं मैं मेरिट में आया हु तो शेर सिंह बद्श्यामी ने कहा की '' हम तो ऐसे ही कर सकते हैं जो करना हो कर लो '' । इतेफाक की उसके बाद विनोद का दिल्ली जज लगना और फिर चौटाला साहब का मुकदमा उसी के पास आना और ऊपर से केंद्र में सरकार भी कांग्रेस की , सब सोने पे सुहागा जैसा हो गया जज विनोद के लिए । जब चौटाला साहब कोर्ट जाते तो यह जज कुर्सी छोड़ कर खड़ा हो जाता था , चौटाला साहब की आँख बांद दी , उन्होंने सोचा की यह तो अपना ही हैं क्या सजा सुनाएगा और आखिर में धोखे में दे के काम कर गया ।
हाँ बाकी अब सारा दोष कांग्रेस पर रख कर एक माहौल बन सकता हैं , इससे शायद इनेलो की सरकार बन जाए । पंजाब में भी ऐसा ही हुआ था , जेल जाने के बाद लोगो ने बादल साहब को ईमानदार मान लिया था और वापिस सरकार में ला दिया । जाट भी हैं कसुते हैं सारा दोष हुड्डा पर रख दिया , कुलदीप पर किसी नजर नहीं गई की यह जज किसका आदमी हैं !

desijat
January 26th, 2013, 08:21 PM
इतेफाक की उसके बाद विनोद का दिल्ली जज लगना और फिर चौटाला साहब का मुकदमा उसी के पास आना और ऊपर से केंद्र में सरकार भी कांग्रेस की , सब सोने पे सुहागा जैसा हो गया जज विनोद के लिए । जब चौटाला साहब कोर्ट जाते तो यह जज कुर्सी छोड़ कर खड़ा हो जाता था , चौटाला साहब की आँख बांद दी , उन्होंने सोचा की यह तो अपना ही हैं क्या सजा सुनाएगा और आखिर में धोखे में दे के काम कर गया ।[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]


सुरा भाई, ये तो किसी पिक्चर की कहानी सी लग रही है| इसकी पटकथा लिख कर राम गोपाल वर्मा के पास चलते है उसने असली ज़िंदगी पे पिक्चर बनाने का बड़ा शोक है.|

जैसी करनी वैसी भरनी, बाप नंबरी तो बेटा १० नंबरी, जब बोया पेड़ बबूल का तो फूल कहा से होय, भगवान की लाठी मैं आवाज़ नही, प्रतिशोध की आग, समय की चोट, आदि आदि कुछ नाम भी सोच रखे है

desijat
January 26th, 2013, 08:27 PM
How do you ask for a bribe in a corporate shop, when the headquarter is outside the state? How do you control a media that sits in Delhi?


I do not think national media influences regional voters to a great extent beyond a few neighboring Delhi states and metros. Each state has a bunch of local newspapaers and TV channels which are well controlled by local politicians. In southern, westers and eastern states local language channels are most watched. And I can say this cause I have worked on a media campaign for a national party and several other media campaigns.

As far as corporate shops are concerned, if your state has major factories and someone is investing crores of Rs. the businessman come to the CM first who controls local benefits, police, state taxes and subsidies. It is mostly state govt policies that matter the most to a business than national(which is most often FDI or Tax related only). Vibrant Gujarat Summit is a fine example of how the state machinery is exploited to get big heads interested in business on a state level(though not the case of a regional party here). Another example could be of Punjab where in farmers are benefiting from contract farming and state govt is supporting it and PepsiCo and McDonalds is working with state govt and farmers.



I don't know the details of this case and it is nice to see any politician getting convicted for corruption. But to be honest, a scam of JBT teachers recruitments looks like a petty crime when compared to 2G, Coalgate, etc. It is an order of magnitude difference.

A crime is a crime is a crime. Both 2G and Coalgate are under investigation and we would be unfair to compare the 2 to prove JBT teacher scam sacrosanct. Problem is with our judicial system, if it took almost a decade for JBT teacher scam to convict chautalas, you can well imagine the pace at which those big scam cases will flow at.

malikdeepak1
January 26th, 2013, 09:00 PM
I do not think national media influences regional voters to a great extent beyond a few neighboring Delhi states and metros.

National media is watched/followed at national level. It does influence people evereywhere because it spreads news/views all over the nation (and some at international level also).



As far as corporate shops are concerned, if your state has major factories and someone is investing crores of Rs. the businessman come to the CM first who controls local benefits, police, state taxes and subsidies. It is mostly state govt policies that matter the most to a business than national(which is most often FDI or Tax related only). Vibrant Gujarat Summit is a fine example of how the state machinery is exploited to get big heads interested in business on a state level(though not the case of a regional party here). Another example could be of Punjab where in farmers are benefiting from contract farming and state govt is supporting it and PepsiCo and McDonalds is working with state govt and farmers.

Policies are formed at National level. State govt just follow them. They only have control over how much tax they can ask, or whether to allow that company/firm to operate in their state.


A crime is a crime is a crime. Both 2G and Coalgate are under investigation and we would be unfair to compare the 2 to prove JBT teacher scam sacrosanct. Problem is with our judicial system, if it took almost a decade for JBT teacher scam to convict chautalas, you can well imagine the pace at which those big scam cases will flow at.


Who is at center level for past 9 years (or almost 60 years)? Who is not doing good administrative/judicial reforms? What is stopping them to make judicial reforms?



And I can say this cause I have worked on a media campaign for a national party and several other media campaigns.

Thode din me baki baat bhi maan lega tu.. :boxing:

desijat
January 27th, 2013, 12:52 AM
Deepak, I was trying my best to not to make it a party based discussion.

I would urge you to read again what I wrote before forming opinions and reply just for the sake of opposing. Please read this:

I do not think national media influences regional voters to a great extent beyond a few neighboring Delhi states and metros. You missed the bold.
I have worked with both, circulation and readerships numbers of all national newspaper and viewerships of news channels and when I say something, I say it with statical backing.

National media is Navbharat Times, dont go beyond but in western UP anyone hardly reads it, Amar Ujala is most read newspaper.
Hindustan Times does not even have editions in major south Indian cities.
Times of India and HT did not even have a Jaipur edition until a couple of years ago, Rajasthan Patrika is most read.
Malyala Manorama influences most in Kerala.

Trust me, I can go on with a list but I guess this is enough to prove a point if you would want to understand.


Second on influencing, are you even aware of how newspapers or TV broadcasting channels work? How do they submit stories? How is editorial divided? Please throw some light and you will get reply to questioning my post.

kapdal
January 27th, 2013, 05:07 AM
I do not think national media influences regional voters to a great extent beyond a few neighboring Delhi states and metros. Each state has a bunch of local newspapaers and TV channels which are well controlled by local politicians. In southern, westers and eastern states local language channels are most watched. And I can say this cause I have worked on a media campaign for a national party and several other media campaigns.

As far as corporate shops are concerned, if your state has major factories and someone is investing crores of Rs. the businessman come to the CM first who controls local benefits, police, state taxes and subsidies. It is mostly state govt policies that matter the most to a business than national(which is most often FDI or Tax related only). Vibrant Gujarat Summit is a fine example of how the state machinery is exploited to get big heads interested in business on a state level(though not the case of a regional party here). Another example could be of Punjab where in farmers are benefiting from contract farming and state govt is supporting it and PepsiCo and McDonalds is working with state govt and farmers.



A crime is a crime is a crime. Both 2G and Coalgate are under investigation and we would be unfair to compare the 2 to prove JBT teacher scam sacrosanct. Problem is with our judicial system, if it took almost a decade for JBT teacher scam to convict chautalas, you can well imagine the pace at which those big scam cases will flow at.

Point taken, but I never said that regional parties are holier than thou. I was arguing against the point that regional parties are "most corrupt". I already said that I am glad when any politician gets convicted of a crime. But I'd be happier still when bigger fishes also get caught. We can't clap with joy when a thief gets caught, while robbers roam free. I don't know on what basis you felt that regional parties are most corrupt. The regional parties came up only because national parties have not been successful in reflecting the diversity of this country. But they took their lessons in corruption or dynasty or identity based politics from national parties.

Point about media was vis-a-vis corruption exposes and not voters. A Robert Vadra story does the round of all media houses but doesn't get published. But anything on a regional leader and media is quite keen to pursue. The issue is not that why the dirt on regional leaders are pursued so vigorously - I am quite glad about it. The issue is why media is hesistant about pursuing bigger scams.

jaisingh318
January 27th, 2013, 07:08 PM
इस घटनाकर्म पर पिछले दिनों से हरयाणा में काफी कुछ सुनने को मिल रहा हैं की यह सब क्यों हुआ किसने करवाया आदि । कुछ लोग इसका जिम्मेवार कांग्रेस को बता रहे तो कुछ अन्य ही कारण बता रहे हैं तरह तरह की बाते निकल कर आ रही हैं ।
हरयाणा में कांग्रेस 2005 में आई हैं जबकि यह मुकदमा उससे पहले का हैं । उस वक़्त केंद्र में भाजपा थी , इस मुक़दमे पर उसी वक़्त गौर करना चाहिए था । रही बात सीबीआई की तो इसे तो हर सरकार अपने हिसाब से चलाती हैं इस बार यह कोई नया कारनामा नहीं हुआ । गुजराल , गोव्ड़ा सरकार के दौरान भी सीबीआई को ले कर काफी हंगामा रहता था , उस वक़्त जोगिन्दर सिंह इसके डायरेक्टर जरनल होते थे ।
दूसरा इस मुक़दमे में ख़ास पहलु यह भी हैं की इस मुक़दमे का जो जज हैं उनके पिताजी गिरधर गोपाल व चौटाला साहब की पुरानी खुंदक थी । गिरधर गोपाल पुलिस में थे व भजन लाल के नजदीकी थे , उन्होंने भजन लाल के लिए फतेहाबाद में बूथ कप्च्रिंग तक करवाई थी । जिसमे चौटाला साहब से उनकी काफी ठन गई थी । बताते हैं की जब गिरधर गोपाल रोहतक में थे तो चौटाला साहब ने यहाँ तक कहा था की अगर गिरधर गोपाल रिटायर भी हो गया तो भी इसकी वर्दी तो दूर इसकी हड्डिया तक निकाल लूँगा । इसलिए कुछ लोग बताते हैं की जब जज ने सजा सुनाई तो चौटाला साहब ने कहा भी की '' बेटा अपने बाप का बदला ले रहा हैं '' ।
दूसरा कारण और बताते हैं की जज विनोद ने हरियाणा की hcs परीक्षा मेरिट से पास की थी परन्तु इंटरव्यू में फ़ैल कर दिया । जब विनोद ने शेर सिंह बद्श्यामी से कहा की आप ऐसे कैसे फ़ैल कर सकते हैं मैं मेरिट में आया हु तो शेर सिंह बद्श्यामी ने कहा की '' हम तो ऐसे ही कर सकते हैं जो करना हो कर लो '' । इतेफाक की उसके बाद विनोद का दिल्ली जज लगना और फिर चौटाला साहब का मुकदमा उसी के पास आना और ऊपर से केंद्र में सरकार भी कांग्रेस की , सब सोने पे सुहागा जैसा हो गया जज विनोद के लिए । जब चौटाला साहब कोर्ट जाते तो यह जज कुर्सी छोड़ कर खड़ा हो जाता था , चौटाला साहब की आँख बांद दी , उन्होंने सोचा की यह तो अपना ही हैं क्या सजा सुनाएगा और आखिर में धोखे में दे के काम कर गया ।
हाँ बाकी अब सारा दोष कांग्रेस पर रख कर एक माहौल बन सकता हैं , इससे शायद इनेलो की सरकार बन जाए । पंजाब में भी ऐसा ही हुआ था , जेल जाने के बाद लोगो ने बादल साहब को ईमानदार मान लिया था और वापिस सरकार में ला दिया । जाट भी हैं कसुते हैं सारा दोष हुड्डा पर रख दिया , कुलदीप पर किसी नजर नहीं गई की यह जज किसका आदमी हैं !
inh judge sahab ka bhai hooda ki security m dsp h.................

jaisingh318
January 27th, 2013, 07:13 PM
haryana m gussaa itna h ki har party worker meeting m distt. m25000 se 30000 log ate h.
aaj ki shakantala garden bhiwani m log rotey hui gay h ajay k bete ki appel p..

jaisingh318
January 27th, 2013, 07:24 PM
आनंद नामक एक शिक्षक जो कि गाँव धनाना जिला भिवानी से है और 2 साल तक हरियाणा अध्यापक सघ का अध्यक्ष भी रहा है उसने साफ कहा कि उसने techr बनने के लिए 5 लाख ₹ ramkisan foji मुख्यससदिय सचिव को दिये 2011 मे अब कहा है c.b.i huda और न्यायपालिका
abki baar sarkar too annihi h100%.............tab hoga asli dhoodh ka dhoodh or pani..................dhye din gahddhi alye ara s inh congress alya m

rinkusheoran
January 27th, 2013, 08:10 PM
haryana m gussaa itna h ki har party worker meeting m distt. m25000 se 30000 log ate h.
aaj ki shakantala garden bhiwani m log rotey hui gay h ajay k bete ki appel p..

Jaisinghji, log rote huye gaye the ki worker? n ajay ki bete ki appeal kya thi jisne rula dia?

rinkusheoran
January 27th, 2013, 08:14 PM
आनंद नामक एक शिक्षक जो कि गाँव धनाना जिला भिवानी से है और 2 साल तक हरियाणा अध्यापक सघ का अध्यक्ष भी रहा है उसने साफ कहा कि उसने techr बनने के लिए 5 लाख ₹ ramkisan foji मुख्यससदिय सचिव को दिये 2011 मे अब कहा है c.b.i huda और न्यायपालिका


Bhaisahab jahan tak mujhe pta hai ye Anand kabhi INLD k youth ka Padha-adhikari tha n kabhi Vikas party mien hota tha. Congress aai to paise deke lag jaisa apane kaha lekin baat ye hai ki isne pahle affidavit kyun nhi dia n ussi time karwahi kyun nhi ki? Ab number banane k chakkar mein bol rahe hain log. INLD mein ab aise hi numbery log reh gaye hain. Asli worker to Ch Devilalji k time the

jaisingh318
January 27th, 2013, 08:20 PM
Bhaisahab jahan tak mujhe pta hai ye Anand kabhi INLD k youth ka Padha-adhikari tha n kabhi Vikas party mien hota tha. Congress aai to paise deke lag jaisa apane kaha lekin baat ye hai ki isne pahle affidavit kyun nhi dia n ussi time karwahi kyun nhi ki? Ab number banane k chakkar mein bol rahe hain log. INLD mein ab aise hi numbery log reh gaye hain. Asli worker to Ch Devilalji k time the
yo to net s kuch bhi bol lay.........bhiwani m jake na bolye .............aajkal mahool gannha garam s......nek salah s too manae to:)

rinkusheoran
January 28th, 2013, 02:47 AM
yo to net s kuch bhi bol lay.........bhiwani m jake na bolye .............aajkal mahool gannha garam s......nek salah s too manae to:)

Achaji fir kit aake bolna sai? Chautala gaon mein ya baas mein ;) n aapne ek salaah di hai to uske liye :applause: :applause: n ab mera bhi faraj banta hai ek main bhi dun aapko jo kaam aaye lekin mujhe pta hai tu maane koni lekin sun le n manega to jindagi bhar kaam aawegi- 'bina mange kisi ne slah na diye' :)


Baki main aa america raha sun lekin mera gaam bhiwani mein sai bhul gya k bagri sun main n thode time baad utte aaunga n Ye tere bargey worker to le dubbey INLD n nyu keh keh nhi to dobara aati ya :tongue:

spdeshwal
January 28th, 2013, 06:11 AM
Bhaisahab jahan tak mujhe pta hai ye Anand kabhi INLD k youth ka Padha-adhikari tha n kabhi Vikas party mien hota tha. Congress aai to paise deke lag jaisa apane kaha lekin baat ye hai ki isne pahle affidavit kyun nhi dia n ussi time karwahi kyun nhi ki? Ab number banane k chakkar mein bol rahe hain log. INLD mein ab aise hi numbery log reh gaye hain. Asli worker to Ch Devilalji k time the

Rinku Bhai,

I had seen that debate live on NDTV where this guy Anand participated and disclosed that he paid bribe of Rs. 500,000 to Congress MLA. His body language said it all. I believe, it was a fake story! When Phoolchand Mulana confronted him, he looked a different picture all together! A thorough investigation could reveal the true story!


Cheers!

sunnytewatia
January 28th, 2013, 09:18 AM
Chotla family shud bring the name forward and tell this truth to ppl. I am sure even any Judge can face the heat if he has done something wrong or favored congress. But it is not new - i heard earlier as well that bias happens in judiciary as well.



inh judge sahab ka bhai hooda ki security m dsp h.................

jaisingh318
January 28th, 2013, 07:31 PM
Chotla family shud bring the name forward and tell this truth to ppl. I am sure even any Judge can face the heat if he has done something wrong or favored congress. But it is not new - i heard earlier as well that bias happens in judiciary as well.
apno ki favour har koi karta h....agar pariwar ki soch k unh ka faisla ho to koi kya kar sakta h iss seat k agy.............
lakin jaat swabhimaan orr unke bujurg gaon m faisla karte h na ki net p ki kya sahi hoga kaum k liye............
ch. devilal k follower almost khandani jaat h ...jinko nafe orr nuksaan ki jyada parwah nahi hoti........
choutala family n abb apne logo k bich baat rakh di h ki bhaiyao p sankat h....abb baki kaam unke soch m yakin rakhne walo ka h.

malikdeepak1
January 28th, 2013, 07:57 PM
Deepak, I was trying my best to not to make it a party based discussion.

I would urge you to read again what I wrote before forming opinions and reply just for the sake of opposing. Please read this:

I do not think national media influences regional voters to a great extent beyond a few neighboring Delhi states and metros. You missed the bold.

You are incorrect. Even in places like bangalore/chennai people switch to national media (especially english media) very often.

I have worked with both, circulation and readerships numbers of all national newspaper and viewerships of news channels and when I say something, I say it with statical backing.

Stats you talk of are based on sampling. When you said Haryana is progressing better than Gujrat, I gave you some real facts about Rohtak development (which many are jealous of without knowing ground reality), you opted for not replying to that post.

National media is Navbharat Times, dont go beyond but in western UP anyone hardly reads it, Amar Ujala is most read newspaper.
Hindustan Times does not even have editions in major south Indian cities.
Times of India and HT did not even have a Jaipur edition until a couple of years ago, Rajasthan Patrika is most read.
Malyala Manorama influences most in Kerala.

You are not correct even here. People are more prone to TV now, than newspapers. Even a barber's shop has a TV now-a-days.
I have seen many bangaloreans/chennaites watching "Times Now" than local Jaya/Kairali TV.

Trust me, I can go on with a list but I guess this is enough to prove a point if you would want to understand.

I understand the importance of a newspaper at a Chaiwala's place. But if you say that people prefer local media more than national media I would disagree here as I have seen Bangaloreans more closely than you. People switch to local media only when they want some entertainement in local dialect. Else they go for national media only. (Even local media project news saying "courtsey some national/international" media only).

Second on influencing, are you even aware of how newspapers or TV broadcasting channels work? How do they submit stories? How is editorial divided? Please throw some light and you will get reply to questioning my post.


I am certainly not aware how editorials are divided (they are highly subjective), but know how a comman man can be influenced. Please throw some light on how your campaign led to influence a common man about a particular national party!

desijat
January 28th, 2013, 08:19 PM
I am certainly not aware how editorials are divided (they are highly subjective), but know how a comman man can be influenced. Please throw some light on how your campaign led to influence a common man about a particular national party!

Every media house has a local editorial team in each office. That if why you would see a huge office of Times of India in major cities where they have an edition but the content of local edition is often decided by local editor. While page 1 news remains similar in all the edition, the placement of news varies edition to edition and the decision makers for that are sitting in local offices and not in Delhi.

Those centers where it is not feasible to have a journalist or editorial team, every national newspaper and broadcasters have a bunch of stringers operating. Stringers mean independent news reporters who are associated with news channel/paper but are independent. Mostly their news, if not national news makes it way through in local edition only. These stringers are also well exposed to local decision makers and are much easy to influence than national reporters sitting in Delhi.

I will give you an example, in Orissa, the Steel capital of India, 2 major newspapers, The Economic Times and Business Standard have 1 journalist each. They play a critical role in deciding the opinions of state about steel policies but are sitting way beyond the so called decision makers in Delhi and every steel company tries to woo them. Read POSCO fiasco, you will understand what I mean.

For second part of your question all I can say is campaign was successful :) One thing you need to understand with any campaign is that most often than not they portray truth by escalating it and ensuring it reaches right audience and if you feel there is one single political party that does not undertake this activity, you will be mistaken.

jaisingh318
January 28th, 2013, 09:01 PM
Baki main aa america raha sun lekin mera gaam bhiwani mein sai bhul gya k bagri sun main n thode time baad utte aaunga n Ye tere bargey worker to le dubbey INLD n nyu keh keh nhi to dobara aati ya :tongue:

too kyu tang pao america t akke addye bhoot badle dhinngye hanndey s iss dhall ka dana pani chugte:)
arr bira bagri alyi baat too jaata m kade t chalte aye s ......isme congress or inld ka to koi tuk na banta..baki teri samajh s:)
bagri to ch. devilal bhi the...arr chottheye p dharti na bote unke.........baat vichardhaara ki h koi samjhe too

jaisingh318
January 31st, 2013, 08:21 PM
sabhi media houses ko govt. ki instruction h strictally ki choutala family k bare m koi news na dey......so funny
ye public h sab janti h..........inh bato s logo m orr gussha jyda ho raha h na ki kum.....

vipinrathee
February 1st, 2013, 12:45 AM
This is just a trailor..in days to come all corrupt politicians will be nailed by honest people's representatives..sab naukri bik rahi hain dharale se...govt chahe kisi ki bhi ho....sabne gandhi ke note pyaare laage hain...

desijat
February 1st, 2013, 12:49 AM
honest people's representatives...

And who are they Vipin bhai?

vipinrathee
February 1st, 2013, 12:54 AM
i don wana name those crappy politicians...ruling party ministers in union govt...they r makin mockery of democratic set-up...........

krishdel
February 1st, 2013, 11:17 AM
You are right

sunnytewatia
February 1st, 2013, 11:30 AM
if u name them, cbi + desi jat will be behind u like dogs.


i don wana name those crappy politicians...ruling party ministers in union govt...they r makin mockery of democratic set-up...........

sunnytewatia
February 1st, 2013, 12:21 PM
Ranbir’s statue removed
Tribune News Service
Rohtak, January 31
In an embarrassment to the district administration, the authorities concerned got the newly installed statue of late Ch Ranbir Singh, freedom fighter and father of Chief Minister Bhupinder Singh Hooda, removed from the Canal Rest Hosue Chowk here this evening.
The CM directed the Deputy Commissioner to halt the installation in the wake of the Supreme Court’s directions on the installation of statues at public places and the filing of a PIL in the high court on the issue.
Balraj Kaushik, former general secretary of the HPCC, said the authorities seemed to be working for praise from the powers-that-be. On the expenses on the development of the chowk and the statue, the joint commissioner of the Rohtak Municipal Corporation, Ashima Sangwan, said she had no off-hand information about it and the executive engineer of the civic body said he was driving a vehicle and was unable to attend the query.

VirJ
February 1st, 2013, 01:31 PM
Hooda is new Chottu Ram for Jats. Even his corrpution is for betterment for the community.

sunnytewatia
February 1st, 2013, 02:43 PM
How? pls explain. Will be happy to agree wid u if you have some facts.


Hooda is new Chottu Ram for Jats. Even his corrpution is for betterment for the community.

VirJ
February 1st, 2013, 03:09 PM
How? pls explain. Will be happy to agree wid u if you have some facts.
It was supposed to be sarcasm.

desijat
February 1st, 2013, 08:06 PM
Mind yourself and your comments.


if u name them, cbi + desi jat will be behind u like dogs.

jaisingh318
February 1st, 2013, 08:20 PM
Mind yourself and your comments.
too to dear bhoot cool h nu na bhadke asli baat p:)

vicky84
February 2nd, 2013, 02:37 PM
Chautalas rope in legal eagles to fight case

CHANDIGARH: Former Haryana CM OmPrakashChautala, behind bars along with his son after being convicted in a teachers' recruitment scam, has engaged a battery of top lawyers to fight their case and a PR firm to salvage the image of his party ahead of the LokSabha and HaryanaAssembly polls in 2014. Chautalas have already roped in senior solicitor general of IndiaGopalSubramaniam and senior advocatesMukulRohtaki, U Lalit, Ramesh Gupta to defend the father-son duo in the Delhi high court.

Sources in say these lawyers charge anything between Rs 5 lakh and Rs 7 lakh for an appearance in one hearing of a case. Similarly, they charge from Rs 2 to 5 lakh for every 'conference' to discuss a case.

"We have had conferences with these lawyers and the appeal is expected to come up for hearing before the Delhi high court next week.The main arguments on the appeal would be carried out by senior advocate Gopal Subramaniam," the source confirmed.

Even, the clerk or "munshi" of these lawyers charge around Rs 1 lakh for one case as their fee. Besides, along with these Delhi-based lawyers,a full-fledged team of other lawyers from Chandigarh would also be assisting in fighting the case.

These lawyers would be defending Chautala and his son Ajay Chautala, who were sentenced to 10 years imprisonment by a special CBI court on January 22 for their role in the JBT teachers' recruitment scam in 2003 when OP Chautalawas the Haryana CM.

Ajay Chautala's younger son, Digvijay Chautala, who is studying law in the UK, told TOI: "This team of experienced and high profile lawyers has been engaged to ensure that our leaders can be represented well before the Delhi high court and the truth is brought out. They were booked as part of a deep-rooted conspiracy by the Congress. This has to be exposed."

"After our leaders were convicted, we focused on two aspects - first, to defend by the best legal brains of the country and second, to launch campaigns across Haryana to boost the morale of party workers," said Digvijay.

The decision to engage these top legal eagles to defend their case was taken by the former CM's younger son, Abhay Chautala, who is now shouldering the responsibility of carrying Devi Lal's legacy forward and keeping the INLD's hold strong in the state in absence of his father and brother.

Sources said that Abhay, who is also the president of the Indian Olympic Association, took the decision as he felt that the case against his father, brother and others was not represented properly before the trial court of special CBI judge in Delhi, which held them guilty.

jaisingh318
February 3rd, 2013, 07:48 PM
gurgaon jo ki cyber city h ...aaj inld ki worker meeting m 20000 se 25000 they..............
congress to itni gathring ko lakho ki rally kahti h ..............

kapdal
February 4th, 2013, 04:12 AM
A viewpoint:

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/aditi-phadnis-jat-pride-chautala-dilemma/500724/

vikasgulia
February 4th, 2013, 12:11 PM
Will Hooda be ever convicted ala Chautala has been? Those singing paeans of an unbiased judiciary and blaming regional parties for every ill on this earth, please answer on this. Rightly said, Chautalas do not have finesse to do a scam and get caught for an act of changing the selection list. Such fools should be put behind bars for sure whereas those who changed the dynamics of of how corrpution should be done, ought to be lauded as Development Oriented CMs

Bigger scam and crony capitalism exposed:

Behind realty rush in Haryana, a gilt-edged licence raj
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/behind-realty-rush-in-haryana-a-giltedged-licence-raj/article4375630.ece?homepage=true

vicky84
February 4th, 2013, 12:20 PM
Will Hooda be ever convicted ala Chautala has been? Those singing paeans of an unbiased judiciary and blaming regional parties for every ill on this earth, please answer on this. Rightly said, Chautalas do not have finesse to do a scam and get caught for an act of changing the selection list. Such fools should be put behind bars for sure whereas those who changed the dynamics of of how corrpution should be done, ought to be lauded as Development Oriented CMs

Bigger scam and crony capitalism exposed:

Behind realty rush in Haryana, a gilt-edged licence raj


http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/behind-realty-rush-in-haryana-a-giltedged-licence-raj/article4375630.ece?homepage=true

Absolutely right. Much bigger scam and crony capitalism! Resulted in not only a big loss but also unplanned township. I came across another article last year about Gurgaon present situation. It has turned into a Ghetto! Giving building approval to unexperienced people has resulted into this. Infact DLF is also not a city planner!! What to talk about small developers. Absence of good administration and lack of reforms in public service has resulted into such a mess.


'Middle class ghettos' spreading in India

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1652167/Middle-class-ghettos-spreading-in-India

Samarkadian
February 4th, 2013, 12:20 PM
A viewpoint:

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/aditi-phadnis-jat-pride-chautala-dilemma/500724/

.......and merely a view point.

vipinrathee
February 4th, 2013, 02:56 PM
bhai sunny
naa mein koi neta hun aur naahi abhineta..toh apne kaun koi kya bigaadega..aise bhi unemployed hun bhai..bhrastachar ke kaaran ek average student ko naukri milna kitna mushkil ho gya hai..
court mein hum saare departments ke peeche pade rehte hain...RTI, writs blah ! blah!
majority of politicians are lawyers thats why they r good manipulators...kya bolein bhai....peeche laag jae toh aseem trivedi ya koi aur activist ki tarah media wale aapko famous kar denge...
kya lena dena aise politicians ka naam lekar..honest representatives ka naam lekar bhi kya hoga...woh aane wale time mein fir dikh hee jaega............
if u name them, cbi + desi jat will be behind u like dogs.

sunnytewatia
February 5th, 2013, 10:13 AM
u r right bro !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bhai sunny
naa mein koi neta hun aur naahi abhineta..toh apne kaun koi kya bigaadega..aise bhi unemployed hun bhai..bhrastachar ke kaaran ek average student ko naukri milna kitna mushkil ho gya hai..
court mein hum saare departments ke peeche pade rehte hain...RTI, writs blah ! blah!
majority of politicians are lawyers thats why they r good manipulators...kya bolein bhai....peeche laag jae toh aseem trivedi ya koi aur activist ki tarah media wale aapko famous kar denge...
kya lena dena aise politicians ka naam lekar..honest representatives ka naam lekar bhi kya hoga...woh aane wale time mein fir dikh hee jaega............

RavinderSura
February 7th, 2013, 10:03 PM
आज लोगो को जब यह कहते सुनता हु की चौटाला को अंदर डाल कर कांग्रेस जाटों को खत्म करना चाहती हैं , या फिर चौटाला के लोगो द्वारा आरोप लगाना की कांग्रेस उनके नेता के साथ अन्याय कर रही हैं आदि जैसी बाते सुनकर मन मे ख्याल आता हैं की जब हरियाणा मे चौटाला राज था तो इन लोगो ने डांगी , जेपी , कारण दलाल , निर्मल सिंह , सतपाल सांगवान जैसे कई नेताओ पर झूठे मुक़दमे बनवा जेल की हवा खिलाई थी , क्या ये लोग जाट नहीं थे क्या वो अन्याय नहीं था !!

vikkisingh
February 8th, 2013, 10:21 AM
koi doodh ka dhula koni

sare politician pehle hain ...chahe chautala ho ya hooda

nyyay anyaye ki baat to yo bahut pehle hi bhool chuke hain
ekmaster hari singh ke bhe ghane mare the kisi baat pe

ar je mere theek yaad padta ho to tikait ji pe to rajdhroh ka case banwaya tha

vipinrathee
February 8th, 2013, 02:01 PM
ravinder bhai

yeh sab politics mein normal hai...sattadhaari pakshh hamesha vipaksh ke khilaaf yeh sab karta hai...kaafi states mein yeh sab dikhai deta hai jaise ki Tamil Nadu, UP, Bihar aur bahut saari states mein..
isiko politics kehte hain bhai....tabhi toh kehte hain politics jaisi buri cheez nahi....
आज लोगो को जब यह कहते सुनता हु की चौटाला को अंदर डाल कर कांग्रेस जाटों को खत्म करना चाहती हैं , या फिर चौटाला के लोगो द्वारा आरोप लगाना की कांग्रेस उनके नेता के साथ अन्याय कर रही हैं आदि जैसी बाते सुनकर मन मे ख्याल आता हैं की जब हरियाणा मे चौटाला राज था तो इन लोगो ने डांगी , जेपी , कारण दलाल , निर्मल सिंह , सतपाल सांगवान जैसे कई नेताओ पर झूठे मुक़दमे बनवा जेल की हवा खिलाई थी , क्या ये लोग जाट नहीं थे क्या वो अन्याय नहीं था !!

jaisingh318
February 11th, 2013, 07:06 PM
, जेपी , [/SIZE]
tarhi dukkan iss dall kay jat chlyeaye kare ...dub mar naete m naam ginta any.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
too arr tera guru jp ki vichardhara manne h...wha r mangye bagriyeyo tamnhe:angel:

jaisingh318
February 11th, 2013, 07:16 PM
Hooda is new Chottu Ram for Jats. Even his corrpution is for betterment for the community.
commnuity kay liye corruption ............jara khool kay explain kare..........too samaj m ayga?
inld ki sarkar pakki h agli baar haryane m....orr haryana police har type k crime se niptna janti h
sare bade chor orr unke cheelye jail ki mannual k hissab s roti khaynge...............pakki baat

krishdel
February 11th, 2013, 07:27 PM
Please do not compare Sir Chottu Ram with these persons, Sir Chottu Ram improved the economy of poor farmers, what Hooda had done for poor farmers.
Had he reserved seets of Engineering Colleges or Jobs for the poors. We are internet users are not the poor.

jaisingh318
February 11th, 2013, 07:47 PM
.......and merely a view point.
property dealers ki sarkar h haryane m aaj kay din ........
bharrr bhaarr jholllay liye ja h notaa kay.....
nu na bera jab inld ki sarkar aywegi too kit lukanh ki jagaha tohai gaye ye congreesi chor.............

RavinderSura
February 12th, 2013, 05:31 PM
tarhi dukkan iss dall kay jat chlyeaye kare ...dub mar naete m naam ginta any.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
too arr tera guru jp ki vichardhara manne h...wha r mangye bagriyeyo tamnhe:angel:
बागड़िया की विचारधारा की मत पुछे , ये एक बार जिसके पा काढ़ लिया करे वो फेर बावड़ के खड़ा होण जोगा कोणी रहवे ..... ;)
1995 मे भजन लाल ने कदमा मे किसानो पर गोली चलवाई , कुर्सी की बाँट देखता देखता चला ए गया
1997 मे बंसी लाल ने मंढयाली मे किसानो पर गोली चलवाई ...कुर्सी की बाँट देखता देखता चला ए गया
फेर इस चश्मा आल्ले ने बिजली के बिल माफी का चश्मा चढ़ाया , सरकार आण प मुकर गया ...मतलब पोरी प तकरार कर गया और यो भी आखिर मे भिवानी लोकसभा ने छोड़ के हिसार चला गया ...इब लग कुर्सी खातिर तुड़ाइया कर रहा स ॥.....वे बिजली के बिल इस रोहतक वाले ने आते ही माफ कर दिये .....
और इब थारी सुन ले ...
यो चश्मा वाला जो किसान नेता जाट नेता कुहवावे स ...इसने कंढेला मे छः किसान गुड़ाये .... आर आखिर मे वे बांगरु फेर इसके पाछे हो लिए ...मतलब जो थारे गोली मारे थाम उसे के काबू आओ सो :sorrow:

RavinderSura
February 12th, 2013, 05:59 PM
property dealers ki sarkar h haryane m aaj kay din ........
bharrr bhaarr jholllay liye ja h notaa kay.....
nu na bera jab inld ki sarkar aywegi too kit lukanh ki jagaha tohai gaye ye congreesi chor.............
ठीक बात आर कह तो इन हरे रंग वालों के प्लॉट गिनवाउ गुड़गाँव मे ;)
ये हरे रंग आले भी खानक , दादरी , महेन्द्र्गढ़ , गुड़गाँव , फ़रीदाबाद , मेवात , यमुनानगर , पानीपत , सोनीपत त नोटा के झोले भर भर ले गए थे ..... आज जो ये लेक्सस , लैंड रोवर , चाले स ये सब उन नोटा के झोला की बदौलत ही चाले स ....माल्टा के बागा त ये गाड़ी आती होती तो चौधरी देवी लाल टूटी सी अंबस्डर मे कोणी हांडता वोहे ले आता ये......
इन नोटा के चक्कर मे इनने खानक , बागनवाला गाँव के लोगा की मार मार लठ कड़ पाधरी बना दी थी ;)

jaisingh318
February 12th, 2013, 07:17 PM
बागड़िया की विचारधारा की मत पुछे ,
... आर आखिर मे वे बांगरु फेर इसके पाछे हो लिए ...मतलब जो थारे गोली मारे थाम उसे के काबू आओ सो
haryane m kuch jaat jind ki raja kay nicchey theeey..................jo khood raja angrej k neecheye tha
arr satrol kay jaat majboori m angrej k neechey they........jind k raja k barabar.............
soch m too farak lazami h ..............:)

jaisingh318
February 12th, 2013, 07:26 PM
... तो चौधरी देवी लाल टूटी सी अंबस्डर मे कोणी हांडता वोहे ले आता ये..
chotalala ji bhi yazdi motor cycle p pacche betteh k handya karte........wo time hi aisse tha
aaj kal too nikkime ghare kay bhi car m handaye s ...........30 saal m economic growth bhi hui hogi iss desh m.......??
kay congresssiy hi fall sa lenga sare soda ka :angel:

rinkusheoran
February 14th, 2013, 07:48 AM
kay congresssiy hi fall sa lenga sare soda ka :angel:


to fer INLD and congress mein koi farak koni k ;)

jaisingh318
February 14th, 2013, 06:43 PM
to fer INLD and congress mein koi farak koni k ;)
ghar too sub bhare h apna................kyki unka dhandha/business s yu...na too deepu barga bodya k bhayya jaata:angel:
per nu jaroor dekha ja s ki badia kon h.........iss sare sode m...........

lakin iss arrest k baad jaat sawabiman inld s puri tor par jood chokka h...........

RavinderSura
February 14th, 2013, 06:52 PM
ghar too sub bhare h apna................kyki unka dhandha/business s yu
per nu jaroor dekha ja s ki badia kon h.........iss sare sode m...........

lakin iss arrest k baad jaat sawabiman inld s puri tor par jood chokka h...........

matlab ke dekhna s .....ak badhiya chor kunsa s jo safai ta chori kar sake s ..nyu ke :stupid:
agar yohe dekhna s to fer congress ta badhiya chor kun jo ki regd chor s ...65 saalo se in logo ne is kaam me maharat hasil kari s ;)

jaisingh318
February 14th, 2013, 07:05 PM
matlab ke dekhna s .....ak badhiya chor kunsa s jo safai ta chori kar sake s ..nyu ke :stupid:
agar yohe dekhna s to fer congress ta badhiya chor kun jo ki regd chor s ...65 saalo se in logo ne is kaam me maharat hasil kari s ;)
nu karo fer...........ye to bethe h chandigarh m..............phalam too rajdhni ayo chang k loy dhore ...haryane k centre m..
hodda lya sakah h per vinod sharma k hotel k addat(sub n bera h haryane m ) na chootihi beery p.......
rajdhani aa jayo jatt belt k centre m......ye chor too jis bhi party k ho fer mla ki ticket bhi na mange......loookte fire ghay:)

RavinderSura
February 14th, 2013, 07:12 PM
rajdhaani to eb bhi jat belt ke bilkul centre me s , bas soch ka farq s :)
in chora khatir kyu apna samay barbad kiya padan de kue me ...

bahadur1
February 15th, 2013, 01:35 PM
जेबीटी शिक्षक भर्ती घोटाले में सजा पाए हरियाणा के पूर्व मुख्यमंत्री ओम प्रकाश चौटाला की जमानत अर्जी को दिल्ली हाई कोर्ट ने खारिज कर दिया है। चौटाला पर अगली सुनवाई चार अप्रैल को होगी। हाई कोर्ट ने शुक्रवार को चौटाला की मेडिकल ग्राउंड पर मांगी गई अंतरिम बेल अपील खारिज कर दी है और सीबीआई को नोटिस भी दिया है।

jaisingh318
February 15th, 2013, 06:32 PM
जेबीटी शिक्षक भर्ती घोटाले में सजा पाए हरियाणा के पूर्व मुख्यमंत्री ओम प्रकाश चौटाला की जमानत अर्जी को दिल्ली हाई कोर्ट ने खारिज कर दिया है। चौटाला पर अगली सुनवाई चार अप्रैल को होगी। हाई कोर्ट ने शुक्रवार को चौटाला की मेडिकल ग्राउंड पर मांगी गई अंतरिम बेल अपील खारिज कर दी है और सीबीआई को नोटिस भी दिया है।
koi fark na padta ..............yu khel too purana s inh congressiya ka............

jaisingh318
February 15th, 2013, 06:39 PM
rajdhaani to eb bhi jat belt ke bilkul centre me s , bas soch ka farq s :)
.
na r bhai syne asli jaad ya s......jaata k beech m rajdhni inh nakliya ka kaal s..hero honda aly chorrey apne app list banwa lenge naukriya ki..............
ibbey balak s too ..............inh baateh n samajhan tahi ideolozy honi jarrori h .....na ki badli/transfer arr satadal ki chammchgiri:applause:

ravinderjeet
February 15th, 2013, 07:03 PM
http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/18526_594859887210136_1421262420_n.jpg

desijat
February 15th, 2013, 07:30 PM
जेबीटी शिक्षक भर्ती घोटाले में सजा पाए हरियाणा के पूर्व मुख्यमंत्री ओम प्रकाश चौटाला की जमानत अर्जी को दिल्ली हाई कोर्ट ने खारिज कर दिया है। चौटाला पर अगली सुनवाई चार अप्रैल को होगी। हाई कोर्ट ने शुक्रवार को चौटाला की मेडिकल ग्राउंड पर मांगी गई अंतरिम बेल अपील खारिज कर दी है और सीबीआई को नोटिस भी दिया है।

Is judge ki kuch dushmani hai ke Chautala te ya congress te prem? Gerio thoda gyan sa ak is bari Chautala karmo ke karan hi jail main hai?

jaisingh318
February 15th, 2013, 07:51 PM
http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/18526_594859887210136_1421262420_n.jpg
choutala koi gaon nahi h ye rajput kay terror kay baad ek refuggie establishment h.....iss so called gaon m apas m shaadi hoti h.....as example d r choudary
agar isme omparkash hitler &family ka jikar bhi hota to orr clearity hoti.............
ch. bansilal kahte they bagar wo hota h jisme bhaichare ki purse/mandir na ho......jab log unh n bagri khaya karte............

phoolkumar
February 16th, 2013, 04:08 AM
JBT
scam

No bail for Chautala;
notice to CBI
Legal Correspondent


New Delhi, February 15
Jailed former Haryana Chief Minister Om Prakash
Chautala today failed to get bail from the Delhi High Court on health grounds as
the HC wanted to have a look at his medical records before considering his bail
plea again on April 4.

Justice Mukta Gupta also issued notice to the CBI seeking its response to
Chautala’s bail plea and appeal against his conviction and 10-year sentence for
committing irregularities through cheating and forgery in the appointment of
3,032 junior basic trained (JBT) teachers in 1999-2000 when he was CM.

Chautala’s senior counsel Gopal Subramanium pleaded for an early hearing of
the bail plea, instead of April 4, but the HC did not agree.

Besides citing his ailments and the resultant poor health, Subramanium
contended that his client had been convicted and sentenced despite the absence
of evidence dug out through investigation. The conviction of the 78-year-old
chief of the Indian National Lok Dal (INLD) was solely on the basis of the
testimony of IAS officer Sanjiv Kumar, a co-accused who had also been sentenced
to 10 years in jail, he argued. Kumar was the then Director of Primary
Education.

Subramanium also pleaded that his client was the Leader of Opposition in the
Haryana Assembly and as such it was necessary to grant him bail in order to
enable him to attend the Budget session beginning February 22.

The HC suggested that other INLD members could take up issues in the
Assembly. Nevertheless, Chautala could approach the HC in case of any emergency
on this score, the Judge clarified.

CBI counsel Rajdeepa Behura opposed Chautala’s bail plea, contending that he
had been treated and discharged from hospital.

A CBI court here sentenced him and his son, Ajay, to 10-year imprisonment in
the case on January 22, 2013 following which they were lodged in Tihar jail.

In the appeal, Chautala contended that the false and fictitious case had
political overtones and his continued incarceration would be against the
interest of justice.

The trial court had failed to appreciate that the decision on the recruitment
of teachers was taken by the entire council of Ministers. The CBI court had
singled him out in the case which was not proper.
The CBI court had sentenced 55 accused in the case. Among the main accused
sentenced to 10 years are Vidya Dhar, the then OSD to Chautala, and Sher Singh
Badshami, the then political adviser to the CM and a sitting MLA at
present.

krishdel
February 16th, 2013, 10:33 AM
Bhai Tum apne jat ke plot dekh kee tang mat ho, dekhne hey to Sonia ke damad ke dekho, sheela ke bete ke dekho , bhajnu ke family ki prporty dekho, yet Jat to kuch bhi nahi hey, asli chor to sonia aur sheela ke bete hey, limit se faltu profit to corruption hey, sabse bada chor to Naveen jindal hey, uski company ne 500% ka profit kamaya - coal aur iron ore ghautele me
Kejriwal ka mama Action company ka malik aur bada chor

phoolkumar
February 20th, 2013, 12:01 PM
16469

Rao Inderjeet may jump out of Congress Vagon.....see what he says....

RavinderSura
February 20th, 2013, 12:58 PM
16469

Rao Inderjeet may jump out of Congress Vagon.....see what he says....
इसको कांग्रेस से परहेज नहीं हैं , इसको तो बस जाट मुख्यमंत्री से परहेज हैं | हरियाणा मे सबसे पहले इसी ने जाट आरक्षण के विरोध मे बोला था |

jaisingh318
February 23rd, 2013, 07:14 PM
aaj ki news s lagta h congress govt kisi apne kilaf bolne walo s jail m kaam karyge
lakin samay dalti firti chayya s..........inld ki sarkar ane k baad kya hoga inh nakli jaata ka.....soch kar bhi ...kya kahe;)

sanjeev_balyan
February 23rd, 2013, 10:04 PM
Is judge ki kuch dushmani hai ke Chautala te ya congress te prem? Gerio thoda gyan sa ak is bari Chautala karmo ke karan hi jail main hai?

जज बिचारा कर क्या सकता है उसे तो एक मशीन की तरह काम करना पड़ता है, जिसा केस उसके आगे पेस किया जायेगा उसे उसी के आधार पर निर्णय देना होगा , कलमाड़ी के केस वाला जज भी इसी जिसा है चाह कर भी कुछ नहीं कर सकता , केस ही बिना सबूतों के घोल टोल के पेस किया गया
हेलिकोप्टर केस में भारत का हर नागरिक विस्वास करता है कि ३०० + करोड़ की रिस्बत किसी न किसी ने ली , सारे जज भी इसी ने सच मानते है , पर कर कुछ नहीं सकते उनके आगे पेस तो किसी और ही ढाल किया जायेगा केस
ये मत समझाना की म चौटाला समर्थक हूँ , उसे अपने करे की सजा मिली , कती बढ़िया है
पर इन्होने तो सीधे बन्दों से ली, सरकारी खजाने पे तो ना हाथ साफ़ करया
कलमाड़ी जिसों और उनको बचन वालो के बारे में आप अपना ख्याल बताओ ,
जज के बारे में क्यूँ पूछो हो की वो एंटी या प्रो चौटाला / कोंग्रेस है , जज बिचारे का तो सबने बेरा है

desijat
February 24th, 2013, 12:48 AM
जज के बारे में क्यूँ पूछो हो की वो एंटी या प्रो चौटाला / कोंग्रेस है , जज बिचारे का तो सबने बेरा है



pahle jib faisla aaya kuch ne kahi ak judge dushman tha, kuch nne kahi congressi.. kisi ne nyu na kahi Chautala ke karam isse the.. katti bhinn ki bhinn hai Sanjeev teri baat te

jaisingh318
February 25th, 2013, 07:26 PM
pata nahi ye news sahi h ki ajay singh n tihar jail k phone s rally ko address kiya baroda gaon m....but news papers m h...?

phoolkumar
March 2nd, 2013, 01:31 AM
SC stays telecast of TV
serial on JBT scam
R
Sedhuraman
Legal Correspondent
New Delhi, March 1
The TV serial on the 1999-2000 teachers’ recruitment
scam when OP Chautala was the Chief Minister of Haryana will not go on air till
March 6.
The telecast of the serial has been
delayed by six days as the television channel concerned today made a commitment
to this effect to the Supreme Court. A Bench headed by Chief Justice Altamas
Kabir said it wanted to hear Chautala’s plea for a stay in greater detail before
passing any order and suggested that the telecast be put on hold till Wednesday.



The Bench, which included Justices Anil R Dave and Vikramajit Sen, posted the
matter for hearing on March 6 after senior counsel Harish Salve, appearing for
the channel, accepted its suggestion.

Arguing for Chautala, senior counsel Mukul Rohatgi said while convicting and
sentencing his client to jail for 10 years the trial court had not recorded any
finding to the effect that he had received any bribe from any of the 3,032
candidates who were recruited as junior basic trained (JBT) teachers.

The TV channel, claiming that its serial had gone into the “real truth”
behind the scam, had scenes showing Chautala and his top aides taking Rs 2-3
lakh as bribe from the aspirants.

The serial was nothing but “trial by the media” when Chautala’s plea for bail
and appeal against his conviction had been slated for hearing by the Delhi High
Court on April 4, Rohatgi said.

Opposing Chautala’s plea for a stay on the telecast of the serial, Salve said
any judicial intervention against the channel would amount to “gagging the
media.” Anyway, the HC would not take a decision on Chautala’s bail plea on
health grounds under the influence of the dramatised version of the scam, he
said.

The SC said it did not want to decide the issue in a hurry and suggested that
the telecast be put on hold till Wednesday.
A single Judge Bench of the Punjab and Haryana High Court had stayed the
telecast, but a Division Bench of the HC vacated the stay and cleared the
serial, prompting Chautala to approach the SC. Besides Chautala, his then
political advisor Sher Singh Badshami, MLA from Kurukshetra, and the then
Officer on Special Duty (OSD) Vidya Dhar, IAS, have also challenged the HC
ruling.

Fateh
March 5th, 2013, 04:55 PM
Recently, I visited Haryana and Delhi, discussed the case of chautala with many people, in brief mainly following to be blamed for this manuplated case, kapil sibal, sampat singh, the judge mr sharma and chautala himself for taking the case lightly and not spending money. ofcourse bhupy bhai sahab is coordinator along with kuldeep bisnoi

DrRajpalSingh
March 5th, 2013, 05:55 PM
SC stays telecast of TV
serial on JBT scam
R
Sedhuraman
Legal Correspondent

New Delhi, March 1
The TV serial on the 1999-2000 teachers’ recruitment
scam when OP Chautala was the Chief Minister of Haryana will not go on air till
March 6.
The telecast of the serial has been
delayed by six days as the television channel concerned today made a commitment
to this effect to the Supreme Court. A Bench headed by Chief Justice Altamas
Kabir said it wanted to hear Chautala’s plea for a stay in greater detail before
passing any order and suggested that the telecast be put on hold till Wednesday.



The Bench, which included Justices Anil R Dave and Vikramajit Sen, posted the
matter for hearing on March 6 after senior counsel Harish Salve, appearing for
the channel, accepted its suggestion.

Arguing for Chautala, senior counsel Mukul Rohatgi said while convicting and
sentencing his client to jail for 10 years the trial court had not recorded any
finding to the effect that he had received any bribe from any of the 3,032
candidates who were recruited as junior basic trained (JBT) teachers.

The TV channel, claiming that its serial had gone into the “real truth”
behind the scam, had scenes showing Chautala and his top aides taking Rs 2-3
lakh as bribe from the aspirants.

The serial was nothing but “trial by the media” when Chautala’s plea for bail
and appeal against his conviction had been slated for hearing by the Delhi High
Court on April 4, Rohatgi said.

Opposing Chautala’s plea for a stay on the telecast of the serial, Salve said
any judicial intervention against the channel would amount to “gagging the
media.” Anyway, the HC would not take a decision on Chautala’s bail plea on
health grounds under the influence of the dramatised version of the scam, he
said.

The SC said it did not want to decide the issue in a hurry and suggested that
the telecast be put on hold till Wednesday.
A single Judge Bench of the Punjab and Haryana High Court had stayed the
telecast, but a Division Bench of the HC vacated the stay and cleared the
serial, prompting Chautala to approach the SC. Besides Chautala, his then
political advisor Sher Singh Badshami, MLA from Kurukshetra, and the then
Officer on Special Duty (OSD) Vidya Dhar, IAS, have also challenged the HC
ruling.


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phoolkumar
March 7th, 2013, 01:39 AM
JBT scam: TV serial
politically motivated, Chautala tells SC
R Sedhuraman
Legal Correspondent

New Delhi, March 6
Former Haryana Chief Minister OP Chautala today
persisted with the Supreme Court for a stay on the television serial on the
teachers’ recruitment scam, contending that the serial was politically motivated
to malign him and his Indian National Lok Dal (INLD) ahead of the Assembly
elections next year.

“The serial has political overtones when the Assembly elections are round the
corner,” Chautala’s senior counsel Mukul Rohatgi argued before a Bench headed by
Chief Justice Altamas Kabir.

On January 22, a CBI court in Delhi sentenced Chautala, his son Ajay, and
seven others to 10 years in jail for their role in the recruitment of 3,032
junior basic trained (JBT) teachers in 1999-2000 when Chautala was the Chief
Minister. Chautala has challenged the verdict in the Delhi High Court and has
also sought his release on bail from Tihar Jail here on health grounds.

Rohatgi said his client’s fundamental right to have a fair hearing of his
appeal in the Delhi HC would be prejudiced if the dramatised version of the scam
was aired.

While the trial court verdict had clearly said there was no evidence to show
that bribe was paid or received, the serial had scenes showing money
transactions, he contended.

Appearing for the TV channel, senior counsel Harish Salve said his client was
ready to drop all the scenes “alluding” to bribe and also clarify during the
telecast of the serial that Chautala had challenged the trial court verdict in
the HC. The arguments will continue tomorrow.
A single Judge Bench of the Punjab and Haryana HC had stayed the telecast of
the serial, but a division Bench set aside this, forcing the INLD chief to
approach the SC.



What is the latest position on the issue highlighted [real truth serial] in the post !