sweet
April 1st, 2003, 07:07 AM
i dont understand, wy all these things are only in our country, i mean, wat difference does it makes, whether we are jat, or punjabi , or pandit,
whether we are from which ever state, or district,
I think the people who think this difference should read our ancient history, they should be aware of our veda's , & identity, which clearly states that "we all are from same origin, we all have same indentity, we all have two things, and only only these two things are true, you know wats these,
"These are body and soul"
ok, ask this question to yourself that "how can you know whether this person is jat or pandin or watever" only when he tells you, otherwise he is a human being as you, as we all are,
If you are jat, and do friendship with a person whom you think he is jat too, and you both are very good intimate friends , but later you gotta know that he is not jat, then wat, "isnt he your best friend now, has he changed, has something wrong happened in your friendship,
No , never, and this is applied to all of us so ,please dont make a "chakarview" of religion aroud yourself, its not good, i mean, it only hurts our feeling, destroy our relations, and left us sad.
"So dont be sad, dont be hurt, always respect each other with only this thinking that" we all are human beings"
And this is the only truth.
love and care to all of you.
dan
April 1st, 2003, 09:56 AM
well sir/madam i absolutely agree with you when you say a human being is a human being ..and i am sure if a person is a good person ,he bein a jat or not is irrelevant to most of us,but this site is not a site about discriminating with non jats ..but about our identity..jats have always in the past fought for freedom..pride..family..religion..and country and what we get in return from the brhamin/baniya society(no offence to any one)is bad publicity..there are people actually who dont know the contribution of the jats wether hindu or sikh..all cause of the conscious part of people to neglect this race..
if there is a site that highlights the achievement of our great ancestors along with current achievements its just another medium that makes us feel proud of what our ancestors were what we are ..rather than what u put it as everyone being equal and us not recognising the fact that a jat is differnt than a non jat..
the matter of fact is that yes we are differnt and it if anything we should be proud of this fact
artikundu
April 1st, 2003, 10:05 AM
dear sweet,
i am not at all convince with ur point.if u really think like that then ia m so sorry why u joined this jatland.because u r jat am i right?so what is the use of asking such type of questions.when other communities discriminate jat's from themselves then why we will suffer because of this.this site is not for only showing our unity but also for remembering our great HEROES.
sarla
April 1st, 2003, 04:38 PM
bhai/jiji sweet
whatever has given you this idea that we are here against non jats. we are simply here to share a similar culture and background .
i consider 'Jat' a race rather than a caste and very proud to belong such a mighty race. but at the same time i have nothing against any other caste or religion. i am friends with non jats per kyun jhoot boli, jo suwaad apni boli, apne desi khane aur desi jatod mai aawai sai wo kyanhey mai na aatta.
there is no point saying we are same as everybody else(non jats) when everybody else is saying we Jats are different, backword, rough etc. (that is their complex talking)
P.S.i have read some of your desi jokes and please let them coming.
anilsangwan
April 1st, 2003, 05:38 PM
Dear Sweet,
I am also not satisfied with ur argument. I think you are not aware of the situations where other casts join together and proceed further. Dont you know, why punjabis, those who came from Pakistan are in top positions in India. They all help each other. Think of it cooly. Why we didnt have any Jat primeminister after Ch. Charan Singh. Dear, jats have been ignored in past.
Now if we are trying to come closer and making a good start, then what is the harm? I think every member in this wondeful site is mature enough to discuss the other casts for benefits of Jat community.
I think, it is better to stay in touch and united rather then being victim of ignorance.
Jai Jatland.
I request you to please let us know more about your background in profile..like your education, location, age and sex as we are unable to use proper salutation for you and your mail id..so that we can contact you.....
Hope you wont mind this. I like your jokes as they are pure desi.. Thanks for the same.
sweet
April 2nd, 2003, 06:04 AM
well well well ,
hi my all jat fellows,
I am very proud to be jat,
Actually i beg ur pardon, i think i gave a wrong start, i shud have to start in different way,
i said all that in the concern, tht one of our jat bhai said tht i dont like when people say me "paar ka jat" thts wy i wanted to remove his this disappointment,
my only fault is this tht i took an example of human beings, which we all are, ya here i was wrong,
i shud ve took the example of jat human beings,
sorry, jats , really i was very wrong, but now im taking a deep breath to replenish myself,
Actually, this is very right that nobody gives a damn to us jats,but did we ever think that who is this nobody, ok, we are saying taht nonjats dont give attention to jats,
is this really true ?????/, that only nonjats dont care about jats, or there is something more, than this..............
By the way, who is Om Prakash Chottla, i think jat., well i am not sure, u guys can help me in this, if he is jat, then wat is he doing for his jat bhais ????????????if he is not a jat, then its obvious that why he is not doing anything for us means for jats.
well, its human nature, (again human nature)
, that he never satisfied with anything, there is always a big hmmmmmmmm in front of him,
when we comes to religion, then if two people meet , that ask each other "who r u"
& one says i am hindu, other says., i am muslim, then both will do hmmmmm accha accha hindu ho, muslim hai,
when two people of the same religion meet, & ask each other who are u, then one says i am jat , other i am punjabi, pandin , or watevr, then they will show, hmmmmm jattttt, acchaha chhaaaa baniya.........
when people from different states meet, & they are all of same caste, suppose jat,
"where r u from" i am from UP, or i am from madras, & another " i am from haryana",
then again, hmmmmmm UP ka jat se,
oh haryana's jat, aacha jat se, southindian se par, bala bala,
when people from same state , same caste jat meet, from different district then , bahi kit ka se, panipat ka bhai, mein bhai rohtak te su,
aacha hmmmmm rohtakiya se, sonepatiya se,bala bala,
what does this mean ??????????
well, the only fact is this that most of my friends here on jatland.com are settled in abroad, they live in different countries, thats why, unko aapne logoin ki jyada yaad aati hai, otherwise, who r in India, who cares about each other, whether they r of same caste, creed, state, watever,
Dont mind but this is the fact, &it's good that atleast people who r outside from country they remember their origin, their fellows,
but there is a but part, its very easy to sit in front of computer & to write these big big posts, & to argue each other, but its very difficult to take step,for watever we are saying, watever we want that this should happen,
we only think about ourself, & this is not bad, i mean, vo kahte hain na ki "aapna bhara te jaag ka bhara" because, here in this world we are not our ancestors, who cud take the step alone itself, who didnt care, whether anybody is giving them company or not, they fought for our freedom, &
wat we are doing, when we can't find anything in our country, we run to others, we dont even try to find the sources , we dont even try to improve the condition of our country, when dont think about our country, then why are we so proud that we care about our jat race, where did this race came from, from India, not from anywhere else,
so, my good friends, wat we can do is we can only submit our posts, humors, arguements, & can enjoy,
so enjoy this site, this is very good & nice site,
pardon me for any mistake, i'll try my best for ur entertainment.
regards.................
rkumar
April 2nd, 2003, 08:24 AM
Dear every one,
the topic is really evergreen...hahahaha..never ending...high time I also add my confuson to it....hahahahha ,,,or may be I try to put on a more scientific footing.
Most physics students would know that the energy of any particle or system is the sum total of its kinetic and potential energy. To translate this to the present discussion now;
what we individuals have is like kinetic energy and what we have becuase of our social background is like potential energy. Both are important for our final place in society. Therefore there is no way out for us, we have to develop socially, educationally, culturally.. Does not matter what best plateform we decide to use.. I would say that a best Jat will be best Indian and best human and best world citizen...
Now coming to Jat prime ministers...What do you say of Ch Devi Lal giving up the Prime Ministership To V.P.Singh and telling that he is happy as Tau...ever heard in the human history? Call it foolish or wise...I am no one to decide...Jats have kicked opportunities right from their door steps...
I pose a question to my young friend Sweet.. How can we contibute to the world as a whole when we can not uplift our own fellows? No one else will come to lift us... let us practice the skills right here before we take the flight into vast sapce ...
Rajendra
sweet
April 2nd, 2003, 08:47 AM
YA, Rajender sahab ji,
i am saying the exact, u wanna tell, that i dont understand why we jat people blame on others if something unfair happened to us,
Now the time has totally changed, but i think we all remember, & know that there was a time when, our jat log used to say that "aare hum jamindar log sein, naukari karne tahi thoda sein" wat was that, non-jats fault ??????/ or our own fault.........we used to kick the opportunity........now when the time has totally changed, when we dont have much land for farming, we are not anymore jamindar.............because, wat cud happen, when we only depend on the lands, & dont wanna do something................our all lands are gone now, beacuse ...the people who used to do jobs, who earned more , they took all our land.....because they were more educated, they knew the tricks,they new the more advanced ideas , to make the land more fertile.................etc etc.........that time our jats didnt think that they should do the same too. they should educate their kids too, they should make them strong too,................that time they only used to think that "aare ke kare ga pade likh ke, kheti ye te karni se"
................& now at this time we are blaming on others.........................wat a bias mentality..............
i am very proud to be jat
well, now it will take time to make a stand of jats.....so dont be diappoint....................everything is fine......................
Enjoy the life.......& try to do something for our jats, rather than just talking.................................& this is for all of us.
cheers.