Jat Baiters

[ravichaudhary]

I wonder if someone could track down and advise who this person is


Facts (24.69.255.203)


The ISP used is above
For a sample of his writings, please see

http://indiaculture.net/talk/messages/128/9428.html?1050267000

Ravi

[rkumar]

Ravi Chaudhary (Apr 13, 2003 09:17 a.m.):
I wonder if someone could track down and advise who this person is


Facts (24.69.255.203)


The ISP used is above
For a sample of his writings, please see

http://indiaculture.net/talk/messages/128/9428.html?1050267000

Ravi

Hi Ravi,

I read quite a bit of the stuff. Following points came to my quick notice;

1. In Alexandra's army there were slave archers according this guy called Fact, is highly self contradictory. Its next to impossible to keep great archers as slaves.. Not even an idiot will accept this.

2. Again there is a talk of Alexandra's marriage. Usually Jat boys have no problem in marrying the girls from other casts. The problem is in giving their girls to other casts.

3. We should note it that over many many centuaries the history has been written by those who knew how to read and write. Our history has been blurred to the extent that we have this problem where some one like this guy quotes from the recorded history. We will have problem winning our arguments purely based upon written history. Trouble is that most jats till 50 years back did not have even their dates of birth recorded, what to talk of their family history and other deatils. High time we have sponsored historians. Mind you history has been mostly sponsored and has been written for those who could pay for it.

Regards
Rajendra

[ranjitjat]

RAVI JI
Jat Baiters & haters are every where.

RAJA BHOJ. The founder of BHOJ SHALA
was a Dharan Gotra JAT KING.
THE KINGDOM WAS DHARA NAGARI
Modern UJJAN
There are SILA LEKH- STATUES & COINS
in the name of VIR VIKRAMA DITAYA.

[ravichaudhary]

Dharmpal Singh Dudee (Apr 13, 2003 02:16 p.m.):
RAVI JI
Jat Baiters & haters are every where.

RAJA BHOJ. The founder of BHOJ SHALA
was a Dharan Gotra JAT KING.
THE KINGDOM WAS DHARA NAGARI
Modern UJJAN
There are SILA LEKH- STATUES & COINS
in the name of VIR VIKRAMA DITAYA.


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Dudhee sahib

Your interest and knowledge need no introduction.

Do you have details of the sil lekhs.

Could you post some details on either list, so we can spread it

Best regards

Ravi

[ravichaudhary]

quote]Rajendra Kumar Kalkhunde (Apr 13, 2003 12:29 p.m.):
Ravi Chaudhary (Apr 13, 2003 09:17 a.m.):
I wonder if someone could track down and advise who this person is


Facts (24.69.255.203)


The ISP used is above
For a sample of his writings, please see

http://indiaculture.net/talk/messages/128/9428.html?1050267000

Ravi

Hi Ravi,

I read quite a bit of the stuff. Following points came to my quick notice;

1. In Alexandra's army there were slave archers according this guy called Fact, is highly self contradictory. Its next to impossible to keep great archers as slaves.. Not even an idiot will accept this.

2. Again there is a talk of Alexandra's marriage. Usually Jat boys have no problem in marrying the girls from other casts. The problem is in giving their girls to other casts.

3. We should note it that over many many centuaries the history has been written by those who knew how to read and write. Our history has been blurred to the extent that we have this problem where some one like this guy quotes from the recorded history. We will have problem winning our arguments purely based upon written history. Trouble is that most jats till 50 years back did not have even their dates of birth recorded what to talk of their family history and other details. High time we have sponsored historians. Mind you history has been mostly sponsored and has been written for those who could pay for it.

Regards
Rajendra [/quote]


Rajendra JI,

This is an on going mission with me, and others to bring about an awareness of our history and culture

1) first among us Jats and

2) Among the rest of the non-Jat public.

The Jat history group I started on Yahoo groups is for the second, where Non Jats can be a member (unlike this group), and where our ideas of our histories can be tested.

If you go through the archives there you will see what I mean, and I will welcome your support and participation there.

This group is internal to us, and here one important matter is to expose Jat baiters like this Facts person for the ignoramuses they are.

Hence my request to some of our more computer savvy members- can you though the ISP address track down this person.

I have a faint suspicion that he is a Mogyal, and has some connection with the academic Jat baiters in Delhi or Haryana, maybe even Kurukshetra university, past or present.

He/she reminds me a lot of Nonica Datta’s writings.

Your help will be welcome

On Alexander, I will post a reply separately


Ravi

[rkumar]

Hi Ravi,

I will do my best to track this guy. I admire your efforts and this is how we can bring our history in true limelight. I have some facts here which you may keep handy and use;

1. Brahmans say that they were born from Lord Brahma. This is well known that Lord Brahma married a gujjar girl and in the prcess got cursed by his first wife. So you can remind all brahmans of their motherhood. This gujjar wife was given the name Gayatri and Gayatri mantra is after her name.

2. All Gods were born in non brahman, non baniya families. One can imagine, Gods never liked Brahman or Baniya woman wombs to reside before coming out in this world.

3. Pardon is a virtue which Brahmans seldom have and the history is full of this, be it Chanakya, Rishi Bhargu, Dronacharya, Parsuraam..list is endless. adding fuel to fire is again a brahminical trait and this is symolised by Narad.. Mind you Ravan was also a Brahman. High time we celebrate Diwali as the victory over devil Brahman king.

4. Fact is that written history is nothing more than the propaganda warfare in which one group is trying to over run the other. Since all written media has been under the control of these pseudo intellectuals, Jats and many other ethnic groups did not have proper justice. Only way is that we shout from the top of our voice and silence these guys...Let us remeber that even wrong repeated with force is taken right...

Regards
Rajendra

[ravichaudhary]

Rajendra

Thank you for the support

Do you or anyone know where the villages of the Dharan Jats today are ?

Please post the reply on the history section, where I have posted this question


When you expose these Jat Baiters in the open they will run away.

This one, Facts, I suspect has an assocition with an Indian University

He has access to a good library, and to scanning software.

His ISP address is as above

Let us start there

Thanks in advance to all

Ravi


Best regards

Ravi