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lrburdak
October 24th, 2004, 11:30 AM
Dahiya has got many variations. In Haryana it is written mostly as DAHIYA. I have got relations in this gotra in Rajasthan who write as DAIYA. In a thread on Jats in Ukraine Mr. RK Sehrawat indicated that there are DAHIYAs in Russia and Ukraine but they write it differently. I tried to search about DAHIYAs with different variations on MY FAMILY PEOPLE FINDER website with URL address
http://reunite.myfamily.com
1. DAHIYA: - There are 294 DAHIYAs on this site search with Hindu first names.

2. DAHIA: - There are 6 DAHIAs on this site search with English first names.

3. DAIYAN: - There are 16 DAIYANs on this site search with Muslim first names.

4. DAIYA: - There are 49 DAIYAs on this site search. Out of these 42 are with Hindu first names and rest with Muslim or English first names.
A further research may help in finding links with them and researching the history of Jats.
Regards,

chhoraharyanada
October 24th, 2004, 06:01 PM
Dahiya has got many variations. In Haryana it is written mostly as DAHIYA. I have got relations in this gotra in Rajasthan who write as DAIYA.

Aaah ... ab mujhe samajh mein aa gya!! Jab Aishwarya Rai "daiya daiya daiya reh" gaa rahi thi, voh kisi Jaat sahib ke leeye pukar rahi thi.

Hehe.

uday
October 25th, 2004, 01:15 AM
Good colection.. Bardak sahab..

originally Dahiya got rehabilated themeselves from a village in Rajasthaan near Alwar to Rohtak side ( Sonepat ) and this migration took place around war of Tariieen ( 1197 A.D. -- VOhi Bandee Raja jiskey kavi ka famous tha paarmaan.. Chaar bans, cahubees gaaz or aanguul aasth parman,, ittey door Gauri hai or mat chuke tu chauhan ... )

more details is in bhaat booklet which is written in Awadhee and some other lang. also.

chhoraharyanada
October 25th, 2004, 02:33 AM
Good colection.. Bardak sahab..

originally Dahiya got rehabilated themeselves from a village in Rajasthaan near Alwar to Rohtak side ( Sonepat ) and this migration took place around war of Tariieen ( 1197 A.D. -- VOhi Bandee Raja jiskey kavi ka famous tha paarmaan.. Chaar bans, cahubees gaaz or aanguul aasth parman,, ittey door Gauri hai or mat chuke tu chauhan ... )

more details is in bhaat booklet which is written in Awadhee and some other lang. also.

Interesting you say Alwar.

Alwar is considered Ahirwal (part of Ahir land)

According to Joon, Dahiya is also a Haryanvi Ahir gotra.

:confused: :confused: :confused:

RAM RAM

ajat
October 25th, 2004, 09:23 PM
Hi Laxman,

“Mr. RK Sehrawat indicated that there are DAHIYAs in Russia and Ukraine but they write it differently.”

Can you please reproduce his comments here?

Regards,

lrburdak
October 26th, 2004, 03:04 PM
Hi Sunny
Here is reproduction of what Mr.RK Sehrawat wrote

"I wonder, if Dekhavich is Dahiya. Similarly Budrak, Burdakov, Burdenko, Burdeinik, Burdaevs are quite familiar names in Ukraine. I am of the the view that the word "Dahiya" must have got corrupted as there is no alphabate for "Hai" in Russian and "Gai" Russian and they are most represented by "Khai", a very funny purnunciation (as if clearing threats)."

regards,

ajat
October 26th, 2004, 09:34 PM
Hi Laxman,

Geographer Strabo applied the comprehensive name Scythian to the Sakas, Dahae, and Massagetae. He states:

“Now the greater part of the Scythians, beginning at the Caspian Sea, are called Daae, but those who are situated more to the east are called Massagetae and Sacae, whereas all the rest are given the general name of Scythians, though each people is given a separate name. They are all for the most part nomads [Jones 1928, 5: 261].”

In his Guide to Taxila, Marshall, the former Director-General of Archaeology of India, says the following about the Sakian invaders of India:

“Known to the western world under the comprehensive name of Scythians, to the Indians as Sakas, and to the Chinese as Sai or Sai-wang, these invaders came principally from the three great tribes of Massagetae, Sacaraucae, and Dahae, whose home at the beginning of the second century B.C. was in the country between the Caspian Sea and Jaxartes river [Marshall 1960, 24].”

The 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica also held this view,

“The predatory tribes of Turan [Turkistan] (e.g., Massagetae) seem to have belonged to the same stock [Iranian]. These tribes are distinguished by the Iranian peasants as Daha (Gr. Daai), “enemies,” “robbers”; by the Persians as Sacae; and by the Greeks generally as Scythians [E.B. 1911, 21: 202].”

Interestingly, Alexander Cunningham, the former Director-General of the Archeological Survey of India, believed that the Dahae of the Greeks and the Dahyu of the Persians were the same word as the colloquial term daku used in India (Indo-English “dacoit”), which literally means “a robber or enemy” (Cunningham 1888, 32). The term must have been one of reproach.

So all in all, I think the Dahiya name or some variant of it can be found in Central Asia.

Best Wishes,

uday
October 27th, 2004, 01:17 AM
Ha..Ha..Ha.. ;) ;) ;)

Wah wah…Aapkey demaag ki bhi daad nahi…

Kuch din nuoy aaur batantey rahe na….. nobel prize milley na milley ....per ek baat pakki se…..
vo din door nahi jab SARKAR agley saal ki 26 January ki parade mai veer balko ke saath hathe be bethawagey…

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ek kissa yaad aaya..In lighter mode...

ek be JAT ek apne dehel paer roooz aiye hue ek thhadey se kalley kootroou ne took geray karda..usna uska naamdhar diya …………

........Kalluu laaaambi poonch aalla ( Lambi Poonch was adjective for Kalluu ..kyonki uske naam ke picheey juda hua tha.. laambi poonch )

ar vo Kalluu aandee poocch hilaya karta... kadey upper ne kadhee pooch ( jab garrey main ho..Raub se main ho .... Upper ne tadhee si thaa ke... ),

Kadey..Kadey Jat jab chhoey se main hoonta to ..took detain haanaa..... to vo kutroo aapne poochaad ne taanga main daba lainta..bhidakk ke samjah jata ek aaj JAT chooh main se.......

Jat jab kadey raze se mood main kurr.kurrr...karta to kallu samajh jaata ki aaj JAT razze se mood main hai...to vo ghane poonch hila denta... vahey puuchkaree aleee poonch...


Ek din us JAT ki dehal pe ek doosree nasal (breed) ka kutroo aan khada hoya.. “DOBERMAN”... Bena poonch allaa.. :rolleyes:


Jat dehel pe tuuk geren gaya.. Ja ke dekha.. yo kisa kuttaa.. iski te bera he naa paataa....Razee hoke took le se.. ek yo choou main se...ek bhidak raha se... eski poonch to se hai na...hilley kyoker.

Jat Bolya Doberman te ..... Terey poochad ke mamley main to musey balouneey main daand bhaithak marran laag rahe sain Aur bat dekhey to kallu alley tuukain ke....

Bola ja ke pehla aapnee nasal or poonch ka pata laga ke Aaa fer took doonga..


Moral of story:- Khud mian fazeehat , auroon ko nasheehat!!

devdahiya
January 16th, 2005, 10:59 AM
Ha..Ha..Ha.. ;) ;) ;)

Wah wah…Aapkey demaag ki bhi daad nahi…

Kuch din nuoy aaur batantey rahe na….. nobel prize milley na milley ....per ek baat pakki se…..
vo din door nahi jab SARKAR agley saal ki 26 January ki parade mai veer balko ke saath hathe be bethawagey…

----------------------------------

ek kissa yaad aaya..In lighter mode...

ek be JAT ek apne dehel paer roooz aiye hue ek thhadey se kalley kootroou ne took geray karda..usna uska naamdhar diya …………

........Kalluu laaaambi poonch aalla ( Lambi Poonch was adjective for Kalluu ..kyonki uske naam ke picheey juda hua tha.. laambi poonch )

ar vo Kalluu aandee poocch hilaya karta... kadey upper ne kadhee pooch ( jab garrey main ho..Raub se main ho .... Upper ne tadhee si thaa ke... ),

Kadey..Kadey Jat jab chhoey se main hoonta to ..took detain haanaa..... to vo kutroo aapne poochaad ne taanga main daba lainta..bhidakk ke samjah jata ek aaj JAT chooh main se.......

Jat jab kadey raze se mood main kurr.kurrr...karta to kallu samajh jaata ki aaj JAT razze se mood main hai...to vo ghane poonch hila denta... vahey puuchkaree aleee poonch...


Ek din us JAT ki dehal pe ek doosree nasal (breed) ka kutroo aan khada hoya.. “DOBERMAN”... Bena poonch allaa.. :rolleyes:


Jat dehel pe tuuk geren gaya.. Ja ke dekha.. yo kisa kuttaa.. iski te bera he naa paataa....Razee hoke took le se.. ek yo choou main se...ek bhidak raha se... eski poonch to se hai na...hilley kyoker.

Jat Bolya Doberman te ..... Terey poochad ke mamley main to musey balouneey main daand bhaithak marran laag rahe sain Aur bat dekhey to kallu alley tuukain ke....

Bola ja ke pehla aapnee nasal or poonch ka pata laga ke Aaa fer took doonga..


Moral of story:- Khud mian fazeehat , auroon ko nasheehat!!



BHAI KATYA ROGG SA.................GHANNI SOOTHHAREE OBSERVATION................." PEHLYAAN POONCHH KA....ha...ha...ha "

kulwant
January 17th, 2005, 06:28 PM
Uday Bhai ek Kitaab aap likho Dahiya ke upar........vaise aapne Jatland pai bi bhot Dahiya sain :)
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Ha..Ha..Ha..

Wah wah…Aapkey demaag ki bhi daad nahi…

Kuch din nuoy aaur batantey rahe na….. nobel prize milley na milley ....per ek baat pakki se…..
vo din door nahi jab SARKAR agley saal ki 26 January ki parade mai veer balko ke saath hathe be bethawagey…

devdahiya
January 17th, 2005, 06:36 PM
My dear sunny singh,

I believe that in your quest to find out the varient of Dahiya,you went a little too far away.May i request you to hold on to your imagination and let it not run like a wild horse,otherwise you will land yourself in one of the hospitals,treating people for frenzied Disorder.............P...........L................ .E..............A................S..............E

lrburdak
March 11th, 2005, 03:07 PM
I do not know exactly where from the word DAHIYA has come from. In north east India the local people use a system of cultivation in which they clear the forest, burn it and do cultivation. After few years when the productivity of area goes down, they select another forest site, clear it and burn. This system of cultivation is called DAHIYA CULTIVATION.
Any member can throw more light on it ?
Regards,

amar0974
March 11th, 2005, 03:39 PM
Or aapney Uday Daiya bhai saab ke leye gaawa they. Naam ta batana na chawa they ja ta bas Daiya Daiya kara they. Par sab na naa bataio ;) ;) :)
Aaah ... ab mujhe samajh mein aa gya!! Jab Aishwarya Rai "daiya daiya daiya reh" gaa rahi thi, voh kisi Jaat sahib ke leeye pukar rahi thi.

Hehe.

mukeshkumar007
March 12th, 2005, 02:58 PM
Or aapney Uday Daiya bhai saab ke leye gaawa they. Naam ta batana na chawa they ja ta bas Daiya Daiya kara they. Par sab na naa bataio ;) ;) :)
:D
Bilkul Sahi Keha....... Sab ko Nahi Batayenge....... :) :) :)

lrburdak
March 13th, 2005, 01:14 PM
Here is one site which gives some information about Dahiya. It is -

http://www.imninalu.net/Eurasians.htm

Dahya, who may be identified with the Dahae of the Persian chronicles, a Scythian tribe mentioned together with the Saka Tigraxawda and the Saka Hawmavarga. The Dahae were nomads from the lower Yaksartes (Syrdarya), outstanding archers that eventually served as mercenaries to the Persians against Alexander the Great and later sided with him in the conquest of the Pundjab, where they settled. They were related to the Parthians as well. Their character has been inherited by the Dahya Rajput.

Regards,

devdahiya
March 13th, 2005, 01:49 PM
Here is one site which gives some information about Dahiya. It is -

http://www.imninalu.net/Eurasians.htm

Dahya, who may be identified with the Dahae of the Persian chronicles, a Scythian tribe mentioned together with the Saka Tigraxawda and the Saka Hawmavarga. The Dahae were nomads from the lower Yaksartes (Syrdarya), outstanding archers that eventually served as mercenaries to the Persians against Alexander the Great and later sided with him in the conquest of the Pundjab, where they settled. They were related to the Parthians as well. Their character has been inherited by the Dahya Rajput.

Regards,


Dear Laxman ji,

Thank you so much for posting meaningful information!