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mukeshkumar007
November 26th, 2004, 12:51 PM
Recently our prime minister has declared the reduction in troops in Kashmir. In his word " we are thinking positive on this issue. We want a peace process in Kashmir to resolve all the issues including terrorism. Now going ahead we have decided force reduction in Kashmir. If peace process may run continue then we can think about more reduction.” And in result of that decision lot of troops are returning from Kashmir.
I don’t know what he has thought behind it but personally I fell it is a wrong decision. In security point of view to guess how much troops are required to control the situation is the work of army commanders and officers not of the politician. Even army officers are taken such kind of decision after a deep study of condition. It is not possible to say after seeing the security condition of state troops reduction could be done.
Terrorists are continuously entering in Kashmir. Pakistan is still doing lot of efforts to send more terrorists into Kashmir. Security condition is still unfavorable. No one single person is safe in Valley. Traveling without security is not possible. Murders of innocent people and politician, rapping with women, attack on security forces camp, unwilling admission of Kashmirian youth into terrorist organization are still happening at everywhere. Five solders are killed every day at the time of Flag march. Our prime minister reached after two hour late into a public meeting because terrorists have blocked their ways with a heavy firing.
So in these critical conditions the decision of troops reduction in Kashmir is not a proper step in favor of National Security.
Before some days ago I have read an article in news paper that army has spread a strong trap of security in Kashmir. If today one terrorist entered in Kashmir then army per day shouts 1.8 terrorists. It means now army on the front foot and terrorist are on back foot. But now this decision definitely decreases the courage and enthusiasm of our soldiers.
But now security trap surly will be affected and terrorists definitely take benefit and they will increase their illegal activity in valley. In early year government had declared seize fire in Kashmir but nothing have been achieved.
Our prim minister declared a 24000-corer Rupees package for development but without security development is not possible.
I could not understand the policy of government one side it punished the about 1400 hundred soldiers on the basis of wrong complaints and other side it rewarded the terrorists.
raj2rif
November 30th, 2004, 07:00 AM
Dear Mukesh,
The Prime Minister also has his security advisors as well as Defense Minister. These politicians do consider Security forces advises on matter of security. Politics is a complicated matter. Reduction in troops does not mean they can't be increased in future. How many will come back, has that been specified? So, don't worry about it, I am sure the army commanders will take necessary measures to ensure national security.
Regarding economic package. I agree with you on this issue. While economic package is a good thing for states affected by terrorism, the government must make each rupee spent acountable to the tax payers. However in past that has not happened any where in the country and I don't see it happening in future any where. That is the curse of democracy or say rampant corruption in the country.
mukeshkumar007
December 1st, 2004, 01:10 PM
Thankyou for your post unclji.
i am fully agree with you. But can you tell me why our politician are not thinking toward to dismiss the act of 370. we should remove this act from our constitution. But why our government could not dismiss it i could not understand.
raj2rif
December 1st, 2004, 05:56 PM
Because of the fear of loosing their own job. The act is beneficial to certain states with specific ethenic population. If you amend that, then those people are going to vote against that party and no one want to loose any vote bank, even if some parties don't get those votes any way.
Thankyou for your post unclji.
i am fully agree with you. But can you tell me why our politician are not thinking toward to dismiss the act of 370. we should remove this act from our constitution. But why our government could not dismiss it i could not understand.
mukeshkumar007
December 2nd, 2004, 02:54 PM
Because of the fear of loosing their own job. The act is beneficial to certain states with specific ethenic population. If you amend that, then those people are going to vote against that party and no one want to loose any vote bank, even if some parties don't get those votes any way.
It is not a satisfied answer ? I could not got your mean. in your eyes our politician do not want to dismiss the act 370 from kashmir only for their vote bank. it means in our country every decision will be taken on the basis of vote bank. then where you find the future of our country ?.
No dought politicians may think about their vote bank but as i think they are not too much selfish that they ingnore national favour.
raj2rif
December 3rd, 2004, 06:30 AM
Unfortunately that is absolutely true. Every politician thinks about his vote bank first. You see any election and govt decisions, they always keep their vote bank interest in mind. Because if they don't, they will not return to power. Whether you believe it or not, really does not make difference to them. You may think that they are not selfish, but they actually are. Most of the people are. You get people who want to serve the country without personal interest once in life time and not in every day life.
Just to make you satisfy, I would not like to mention some thing that is not true. If national interest was the main thing then article 370 would not have come into effect in first place. Why article 370, your own reservation policy was planned by Mr. Ambedkar only for 10 years. That mean it should have ended in 1960. It is still there with more and more classes beind added to it. Do you think it had been done for national interest?
We learnt that Britishs used the policy of divide and rule. The same thing is being done by our own people. The nation is much more divided today what it was during British time. These are unfortunate things but ture. I only hope younger generation who is feeling the pinch, will do some thing to improve it. But the truth is once one gets into the power game, he/she forgets his/her own sufferings. It is some thing like you want to climb into a crowded bus, telling the person inside to give you space. But once you are in, you always try to tell the new person trying to get in, that it is over crowded and he should take the next bus. That is human tendency. You personally may not have done it or may not do it, but most people do.
It is not a satisfied answer ? I could not got your mean. in your eyes our politician do not want to dismiss the act 370 from kashmir only for their vote bank. it means in our country every decision will be taken on the basis of vote bank. then where you find the future of our country ?.
No dought politicians may think about their vote bank but as i think they are not too much selfish that they ingnore national favour.
jagmohan
December 3rd, 2004, 08:23 AM
Dear Mukesh,
May I request you to do some basic research on the subject of how and why Art 370 & 371 came into being. Also don't forget to look for the 'Instrument of Accession', 'Simla Agreement' and 'Discussions held in UN in 1948-49 on J&K Issue'.
You can find all these in the official web site of Government of India & UNO.
I am sure once you have read all these you will appreciate how Art 370 is possibly the only 'Legal Window' by which the State of J&K is still governed by India. Though I am very clear about the whole subject myself, it is not possible to write and explain everything on this thread. That much time is just not available.
Thanks and regards,
JS Malik
mukeshkumar007
December 3rd, 2004, 03:16 PM
Dear Virendra Unclji Thank you for your valuable thoughts.
But there are two sides of a coin. To criticize everything is not a final solution. I agree that politicians are doing politics in favour of their vote bank. At present politicians are involving in many criminal activities and trying to full filling their bailey (with more back money). But this thing is not special for India. These kinds of things are happened in America also. Politics is the need of every country in current scenario. But among these politicians some honest politicians are also remain and they are performing their duty very well without thinking about any rewards. If every politician will became corrupt then the country will not move ahead. We should not elect those politicians who are doing bad politics. In recent parliament election more youths have elected. It is good sign for our country. They can solve all the problems with the help of seniors. But it is unfortunate that seniors are not ready to leave their post for youths.
What human tendency you have described is right. We Indian are involving to full fill our own wish. We wish for a reward against what we have done for our country. But we have to change this situation.
We should not elect those politicians who are doing bad politics.
I am sure that we can do it. We can root out the entire problem whatever have. But one thing more we have to do that we should show faith among our politicians (good politician.).
Some one said that HAR BURAI KI ATI HOTI.
So I think if we rooted out the strong British Empire from our nation even more unfavorable circumstances have. Then why we cannot remove present evils from our nation?
I would like to thanks mr jagmohan unclji for their recommendation.
raj2rif
December 3rd, 2004, 05:24 PM
Dear Mukesh,
While, I don't want to mention that wishfull thinking is not a good thing, the truth is what I had mentioned in earlier post as far as politics is concerned. Yes there are many young faces in the current parliament, but who are these young faces. They are the kith and kins of old faces. What values they will bring to the politics is yet to be seen.
I would have liked if most of these young faces had been from the common population. Again there are more members with criminal back ground then the new faces.
I agree with you that there may be honest politicians as well, but what is the number and how does that number get work done in a system where decision is based on the vote of each member? Secondly, there had been many cases in past and will happen in future as well, where the elected members had been put at one place and not allowed to attend the sessions, or voting for a particular leader.
I would say, the best is you carry out some research as suggested by Col Malik and you will find most of the answers on Kashmir.