Nuclear Status of India

[dineshmalik]

Honourable citizens of INDIA,

I would like to bring your kind attention to the front page NEWS of the INDIAN EXPRESS of today (16/12/2004). Which states that Mr. Natwar Singh, Our so Called EXTERNAL AFFAIRS MINISTER, is in SEOUL & has regretted about the India's Stand on Nuclear staus.

He has regretted the nuclear tests carried out by the NDA Government. Here, I would like to ask our honourable minister, that by whom the nuclear projects was started? Who gave the green signal to the Indian Nuclear Project.

It was INDIRA GANDHI only who carried out the first peaceful nuclear explosion in 1974.

It was Indira Gandhi who gave the green signal to the ndian Nuclear Project in 1982-83.

It was Rajiv Gandhi who the green signal to the ndian Nuclear Project in March 1995.

It was Narsimha Rao who continued the project till December 1995 & decided to conduct the nuclear test in December 1995. Later due to US PRESSURE HE CALLED OFF THE PROJECT.

Mr. Natwar Singh has forgot all the initiative were taken by the Congress Top Brass only.

IT WAS NDA GOVERNMENT ONLY WHO DID NOT CARE FOR THE US THREATS & CARRIED OUT THE TEST & Despite the biggest financial crunch (due to imposed bans on various World Bank Aided projects as well as financial help from the other friend countries) they sailed thru smmothly.

I would like to remind our honourable minister that our present PRESIDENT, Mr. Kalam, is a nuclear scientist, who headed the project & due to his contribution only, INDIA was able to conduct the presigious project & he is crowned as the PRESIDENT OF INDIA.

It was Congress who filed the Nomination papers for Mr. Kalam separately. It proves again that CONGRESS support the Indian Nuclear Project.

However, whenever we talk about the NATIONAL SECURITY, there is no room for politics (Always committed by all the parties at various time & platforms), then why Mr. Natwar Singh is playing with.

I would like to ask our Prime-minister, Mr. Manmohan Singh that why he is carrying with the person of ill menatality who ahs made this type of statement not for the first time???????????????

[rkumar]

Natwar Singh lagta hai vastav me sathiya gaye hain....Jaton ke naam par dhabba laga rahen hain Natwar Singh ji yeh sab kehkar....Just watch, he will retract his statement by evening and give different interpretation like how Putin did in Delhi on the UNSC seat for India..

Rajendra

[raj2rif]

Dear Kalkhande Ji,

You have brought out rightly. It is so unfortunate for our foreign minister to make such statements. Whether the nuc tests were conducted by BJP government or Congress government, it was a decision taken by the elected government in the country and in the tune of democracy. We all need to defend the decisions taken on our foreign policy matters by any government. The reason is simple, firstly at this time we can't alter them, and secondly, while we may have differences at home, we need to project a united picture abroad.

I think Mr. Natwar Singh himself sould resign on this issue for it is a serious matter. If he does not, then the Prime Minister needs to take necessary action. And if it was a collective decision taken by the Parliamentry Committee or the Cabinet, then the Prime Minister needs to make a statement on this issue, clearly defining the stand of his government.

[sphougat]

Well I have gone through this article. Make sure and double check, are these comments addressed by him are correct? What were the circumstances? Secondly, may be any circumstances. Why he said like this? It is better to get the clarification and try to project any other Foreign Minister.

We don't need slave mentality. We need leader mentality.


These kinds of remarks are not acceptable at any cost. We have millions of qualified people. Why are you stick with one person. I think he has forget diplomacy. Anyway give chance to some other intellectual.

[sphougat]

I have gone through Tribune. The explanation is as follows:

In response to a question, MEA spokesperson Navtej Sarna said: “As far as the External Affairs Minister’s remarks are concerned, he acknowledged that the decision to cross the nuclear threshold was taken by the previous government in 1998.

He was merely stating a fact, not expressing any disagreement or agreement with that decision.”



Now, the reality is Natwar Singh telling a lie. He is representing as Foreign Minister of one billion people. Natwar Singh has no right to speak against any Indian indidvidual or any Indian Political party on any such platform within India or outside India. This is our internal matter. This can not be discussed on any foreign platform. He should submit his resignation on moral grounds for negligency to discharge his duties as Foreign Minister.

I would also request to Indian Prime Minister to sack him from the cabinet.

[rkumar]

I think Mr. Natwar Singh himself sould resign on this issue for it is a serious matter. If he does not, then the Prime Minister needs to take necessary action. And if it was a collective decision taken by the Parliamentry Committee or the Cabinet, then the Prime Minister needs to make a statement on this issue, clearly defining the stand of his government.

Tavathia Sahab,

He deserves to be dismissed with immediate effect and as a punishment he should be asked to travel back to India on his own as a common man. On the one hand we are putting our claim on permanent UNSC seat and on the other hand we have such irresponsible ministers..Maharaja Suraj Mal must be ashamed of him in heaven today that his great grand children are so coward.

Rajendra

[amarsirohi]

Just wanted to add a small note:

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has clarified that whatever Mr Natwar Singh said were his own personal views.

"India is proud of its nuclear status and there is no need to sound apologetic about it"

Amar

[rkumar]

Just wanted to add a small note:

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has clarified that whatever Mr Natwar Singh said were his own personal views.

"India is proud of its nuclear status and there is no need to sound apologetic about it"

Amar

Exactly..and this is all the more reason that Mr Natwar Singh should be given marching orders from the council of ministers...Weak persons like him should not be allowed to represent the nation..

Rajendra

[sphougat]

It would be very bad to call him back. Let him come back after completing him assignment at Seoul. Ask him, "Can you give the explanation of the words you used at Seoul. We are thinking to replace you, how much time do you need for this to prepare mentally". He has served the nation many years. We should not treat him badly for just one/two reasons. Then in a fortnight or within a month, we can replace him somewhere else. If media ask, Seoul was the reason to replace him. Then we should reply, no. We need his expertise on new assignment.

[raj2rif]

Just wanted to add a small note:

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has clarified that whatever Mr Natwar Singh said were his own personal views.

"India is proud of its nuclear status and there is no need to sound apologetic about it"

Amar


Dear Amar,

Clarification of Prime Minister without taking an action against Mr. Natwar Singh does not carry any meaning. The question is, was he on official visit or on a personal visit. If he was on an official visit, then probably he should not have expressed his personal views. Even if he was on the personal visit and his views are different on such a sensitive issuefrom the Administration he is working in, then he should not be there in first place.

Prime Minister's clarification is just a white wash and does not hold water so long Mr. Natwar Singh remains in his council of Ministers.

[amarsirohi]

Dear Rajendra Sir & Col Tavathia,

I completely agree with the points raised by both of you.

"The statement of the Prime Minister does not hold water unless Mr Natwar Singh is removed from the council of Ministers"

But, i think we should be a little realistic over here. After that we will be able to understand that a faux pas has been comitted and a clarification has been offered.

This is politics and how many times have we seen a minister being dismissed for potraying information in a incorrect manner!! Infact how many times has the Prime minister commited a similar mistake and then retracted by way of offering "clarifications"?

But all in all if Mr. Natwar Singh is indeed dimissed then it will be a first for Mr. Manmohan Singh in particular and Indian politics in general.


Amar

[kulwant]

Firstly, I am not at all surprised and shocked at this statement of Natwar Singh because our politicians keep repeating such acts at both the fronts(home/abroad).
Secondly, this statement of Mr Natwar Singh has made my views more stronger about Indian politicians.
As far as his resiganation is concerned, I think it will be the last thing in his mind.
Regarding Mr Manmohan singh sacking him, I dont think so that it will be done.
Moreover to give resignation on Moral Grounds, I think that the concerned person must be morally upright to do this(After this statement if it is true, I doubt that Natwar singh is a man of self esteem and self respect ).

Lastly I will say that either we form a habit to tolerate such things or let our actions speak at the time of Election. Because that one day(election day) has given so much power to us to choose and promote man of our choice.

[karan]

What a Jack A$$. Natwar, thanks for demoralizing our Nuclear Scientists, Armed Forces, and ruining the pride of 1 billion people. Thanks Man appreciate your bilth. I hope you burn in hell, I will surely pay a visit just to see politicians like you and your cohorts burn there and get a saddistic pleasure in your pain. :mad:
I agree with Kulwant on his remark, "Our politician...."
He sounds like proverbial, "Bheet mein aala, ghar mein saala..." How does a nation asserts its strength when your own Phoren Minister believes in Ahimsa ideology in this world that is driven by cold hearted geo politics. We have had two phoren ministers in the last 8 years who are from rajasthan. One so called jaswant singh, he had his head up Strobe Talbot's A$$ so deep when jaswant spit it came out of Tablots mouth.

Why can't we find some foreign minister who knows his job description instead of Phoren minister?

I wish we had some established mechanism to take care of people like these. With friends like these politicians who needs enemies.

[dineshmalik]

All respected Brothers & my Elders,

This site is a good platform where we can share our views. The purpose to put my views have been succesful here so far.

I fully agree with Major kulwant that these types of person should be barred from joining the reponsible offices. We can do so by using our voting power on the Election Day. I also fully agree that these type of person wont resgin on moral ground. They donot commit themselves to the service of the nation. These persons are only to make Foreign trips & money, nothing else. They have to do nothing with the sentiments of 100 Crore Indians.

I also understand that Mr. Manmohan Singh is not going to sack him as he does not have any power in his hand. So any expectation from them will be futile.

So only the thing we have in our hands not to allow persons of ill mentality to join offices of such repute by not voting to them when we have a DECISION day in our life - ELECTION DAY.

Ram Ram

[jagmohan]

Dear All,

Natwar Singh does not deserve the kind of attention and space you all have given him. However, may I look at the whole issue a little differently. I am no expert on any thing 'Diplomatic' but surely have a view on issues and an intution that has always kept me abreast of events.

Having said that, a question comes to mind whether Natwar's statement was a 'Trial Balloon' in a way? Was it a statement to tell the world that India may be ready to give up its Nuclear Status for a Permanent seat in the UNSC? Was it to start the debate on what did the Nuclear Explosions of 1998 achieve in reality or real politik as they say? (Who knows whether the aims, technical and/or stategic, of the 1998 blasts were achieved or not?) Was it an indicator that India may go in for more tests if need be?

There can be many such questions hidden in that one statement and I feel it is early to comment on the full import of what he said.

And by the way, Pakistan to bilkul nahin darya hamare Nuclear Tests se!! And what was under wraps came out in the open. After initial sanctions Pakistan is back to where it was during its hey days. Full recognition by US, EU etc and the Arms flow has started. Kashmir issue is being spoken about on terms and conditions being set by US & Pakistan or so it seems. And immediately after the Nuclear Explosions our RAJPUT friend and Foreign Minister, Major Jaswant Singh had to accompany known terrorists upto Kandhar. What a Nuclear Power we have become? Mhare te badhiya to North Korea likda. USA ke samne katai nahim jhukta ar jab jee mein aawe hai Japan ke upar ke udaa de hai missile.

Manmohan Singh is keen to resign himself (the left front is sorting him out daily), I wonder how he can ask Natwar to resign. Natwar Singh is Madam's man!!!

Lagey Raho...

Regards,

JS Malik

[rkumar]

Dear Malik Sahab,

Inidia will be totally mistaken if she thinks that world will bestow the permanent UNSC membership upon her withour massive ecnomic power or Nuclear power. India's nuclear status is very crucial just not for Pakistan, but for countries like China who had the habits of teaching lessons at the slightest pretext. I don't think Pakistan matters much if India wants a rightful place among the world community.

Not only we should be strong, we should sound strong as well. Role of a foreign minister should be to justfy the action of the nation and not to regret what was done rightly..

Rajendra

[ramksehrawat]

Without going into the merits of what Natwar Singh said or what punishment be meted out to him, one thing which heartens me to note from the above posts is that we Jats are not castists in the true sense as we don't follow or tolerate someone merely because he is a jat. We are not afraid of calling a spade a spade and we have the interests and dignity of our country uppermost in our minds. A very constructive and impartial thinking on the part of all the participating members. Kudos.

[karan]

Col Shahb,
One wise man made a comment in IE about faltering infrastructure of Banglore, "India's problem is not poverty but poor people". Poor people in India who form large part of voting block are so accustomed to living in their comfort zone of beggary, hand outs, subsidy, welfare, driven by short term goals they have no idea what lies ahead for them. It is these people who are impediment to the progress of this nation. All these politicians cater to this block where as all the money is provided by hard working, tax paying individuals and corporations for their mistake. I closely watched last election, there wasn't a single politician who had a plan on how to move forward from where the previous govt left. All you hear is we will upliftment of the poor..well I got the news, you can't uplift strata of population that is paralyzed below neck, blind and deaf above neck.

Other thing what is with this bandh gala white suit. Get a clue Natwar, you look like a langoor. Go take a class in how to dress for success. How do you stand up for your country when langoors like Natwar, Totah like Lalu, Karam key neech Ram Vilas, Sharad Yadav, Mayawati, Mulayam, Amma, Karunanidhi and biggest loser's of all these so called leftist like Harkishen Surjeet, Yechuri.
These leftist jerks need to be thrown out of this country, they have the audacity to critisize the democracy, freedom and whatever little prosperity we have for their political gains while enjoying the luxury provided by the same system.

Man this thing got me riled up. Aan do isne America ib key kisse tahin paise deh ke iske mooh pah joota phikwana padega.

[rkumar]

Hi Karan,

I can understand your sentiments. Fact is that we living outside India suffer much more for all the mess back in India. Its we, who have to face the ridicule of outsiders more..In a way, we are the true barometers of Indian feelings..Our voice must reach all the politicians..

RK^2