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apoonia
January 17th, 2005, 07:03 PM
Just wondering my friends who is going to win these eletions Choutala or congress as upto my knowledge there is awave going on for congres but due tounfair distribution of tickets are there any chances of chautala comming back as in my opinion if he comes back he will make haryana worse than Bihar
so please comment me on this........thx
chhoraharyanada
January 17th, 2005, 07:13 PM
Just wondering my friends who is going to win these eletions Choutala or congress as upto my knowledge there is awave going on for congres but due tounfair distribution of tickets are there any chances of chautala comming back as in my opinion if he comes back he will make haryana worse than Bihar
so please comment me on this........thx
Chautala will lose.
Bhupinder Hooda or Bhajan Lal (hope not) will be Haryana's next CM.
dahiyars
January 17th, 2005, 07:31 PM
DearAmit
It appears that the mood of the people is for change.Inspite of the fact that even congress does not have a positive agenda for the people, the people are thinking for change and hence congress becomes a choice . Other political parties like BJP, BSP etc. may not have much presence exept here and there. The question of :
EMPLOYMENT(HARYANA HAS SCOPE FOR 2 LAC SERVICES IN GOVT SECTOR)
QUALITY EDUCATION
QUALITY HEALTH
SUPPORT TO MARGINAL FARMERS TO BRING THEM OUT OF HUGE DEBTS
SUPPORT TO LANDLESS LABOUR
REGULAR ELECTRICITY SUPPLY AT REASONABLE RATES
INSECURITY IN THE SOCIETY-INCEASING VIOLENCE
DECLINING SEX RATIO--617 AMONG LITERATES
WOMEN EMPOWERMENT
IRRIGATION WATER
DRINKING WATER IN VILLAGES AND CITY SLUMS
SANITATION PROBLEM IN VILLAGES AND CITY SLUMS
AUTONMY OF INSTITUTIONS
PROTECTION OF MINIMUM CIVIC RIGHTS OF PEOPLE
LIST CAN BE STILL LONGER
But most of the parties are not responding to these issues except the left parties but they also donot have much following.
Can there be some way to make these public issues as the Agenda of Haryana Elections
RSD
rkumar
January 17th, 2005, 07:44 PM
God only can predict as to what will happen in Haryana..after all Hari ki land hai naa...I am sure every Royal family of Haryana is pitching to have the next CM from its clan..and who knows Billiyon ki larayee me bandar baaji maar jaye...One thing looks certain...If congress comes in power, you will see a real battle for Chief Ministership...you have Birender Singh, Surjewala sr and jr, Bansi Lal and sons and son-in-laws.....Jindal and sons...Bhajan Lal and sons... Dekho oont kis karwat baith ta hai...and finally it will be Her Majesty in Delhi who will decide as to who the CM should be...so my friends enjoy a beer of glass of lahssi....does it really matter who the CM should be in the type of politics we have in India ? Even Rabri Devi is running Bihar...Politics has become like family business..shares are allotted to family members only..
RK^2
raj2rif
January 18th, 2005, 03:06 PM
Who Will Win?
I Guess Whoever Have Muscle Power. Or Say In Short "mafia"?
adhanda
January 18th, 2005, 04:06 PM
Could you tell me why everybody is against Chautala? I guess he did a couple of good things for Haryana, and the economy is much better than any neighbouring states.
Since BJP has no mass support, and I personally cant stand congress rule !!!!, so my good wishes for the continuation of the Chautala's govt.
ramksehrawat
January 19th, 2005, 12:04 AM
I am hundred per cent sure some 90 anti-social creatures with badges of different political parties around their necks will win in the elections. They will win by spending crores in order to become multi-crorepatis. Whoever wins, as has always been the case, the ultimate loser will be the common man. The elections are like dog race, the Chief Ministerial candidates like Chautala, Bhajan Lals etc. are like gamblers who put their stakes on 90 dogs. At stake is the future of Haryana which will be reduced to the future of the winner's family. The winning dogs will just be patted and a few crumbs thrown before them.
raj2rif
January 19th, 2005, 08:16 PM
Dear Sehrawat Ji,
You are right in your analysis. The question what we need to do and where do we start from to solve this problem?
A practical and long term solution needs to be thought off. To be honest I myself not very clear as to where to start and what to do to eradicate this mess.
devdahiya
January 19th, 2005, 08:34 PM
Aapp Iss Beemarri Ka Illajj Dhhundhte Reh Jawoge.bahhoot Motti Garddan He Inn Sab Ki.question Is Not," Who Is Right." But ," Who Has Might." Who Bothers About You And This Stupid Me.
itsnavin
January 19th, 2005, 09:23 PM
Who so ever wins, I think Haryana is well prepared to receive a non-JAT Chief Minister.
Yeh Chautalas, Hoodas, Surjewalas, Bansilals dhaarey ke dhaarey rehh jayengey...aur baaji koi aur maar ke le jayegaa...sabko pata hee hai ki Sonai ne decide karna hai ki CM kaun hoga...aur woh in any case JAT ko nahin chun-ney wali...like Rajasthan!
uday
January 20th, 2005, 08:20 AM
I heard that last time HCS main 125 main se 75 - 76 were JATS...
Is that true ?
Stay Tuned.
uday
January 20th, 2005, 08:22 AM
very true..
Who so ever wins, I think Haryana is well prepared to receive a non-JAT Chief Minister.
Yeh Chautalas, Hoodas, Surjewalas, Bansilals dhaarey ke dhaarey rehh jayengey...aur baaji koi aur maar ke le jayegaa...sabko pata hee hai ki Sonai ne decide karna hai ki CM kaun hoga...aur woh in any case JAT ko nahin chun-ney wali...like Rajasthan!
rakesh_sehrawat
January 20th, 2005, 10:30 AM
hi,
Evbody knows this congress will win. but about CM there is a great confusion whether Bhajan, Hooda, Virendra or Randeep. the main politics after election will be between jat and non jat leaders. Bhajan LAl has the support of Surender Singh S/o Sh Bansilal and Randeep. From my point of view Randeep is young and energetic will be give preferences and this will also helpful to chart a better harayana instead of others. what all of my other friends thinks about my this view. Is it not the need of today, a young and energetic CM. any way hope for the best.
ya even Mr. Chautala had developed Haryana, hemade many attempts but now we need a change and also htere behaviour was not good.
rkumar
January 20th, 2005, 12:52 PM
So many power blocks have been created in Haryana that none of them will be able to bragian clearly for chief minsitership. All these blocks are against each other and this is the reason that they have been created..Be assured it will be decided in Delhi and I won't be surprised if Shelja is asked to take over the CM's post..just a wild guess...This time its divide and rule policy at work to its crudest form..With Haryana Vikas party gone, I am sure people of Haryana would welcome a new regional party as they are almost fed up with all the mainline parties who have been playing with the honor and emotions of people and doing nothing to uplift their lot.
RK^2
ramksehrawat
January 20th, 2005, 03:54 PM
I think the permanent solution should be borrowed from the ladies of Nagpur. Remember, the Nagpur ladies went to the court and killed the goondas in front of the judge. If these politicians do not perform, go to the Assembly in hordes and beat them out of their senses. There is no Gandhian way to reform them.
ramksehrawat
January 20th, 2005, 03:59 PM
I have observed the functioning of different governments in Haryana since the hey days of Bansi Lal, I can say that what and now Chautala has done (of course next to Bansi Lal) for Haryana in recent years for Haryana in general and Jats in particular no other CM comes near to him. After Bansi Lal he has done maximum to improve the infrastructure in the State. So what if he has given only lip service, his record of going to villages under "sarkar aapke dwar" is unmatched. The onlly problem with him is his corrupt image and autocratic style of functioning. But show me even a single sarpanch, leave alone MLAs/MPs/CMs/PMs, who is clean. Hence, the best course for Haryana way would be if he gets a reduced majority. If Bhajan Lal or Rao Inderjit manages (foreget Hudda or Surjewalas will become CM if Congress secures majority), that would be worst scenario for jats. At least with his supremacy of jats in this jat dominated state is guaranteed. But the problem with us is to find fault in our own and praise others. The most likely CM are either Bhajan or Inderjit if congress comes to power, who will just be puppet CM and it will not be good for the state. Hence, of all the evils Chautala is the better option as far as jats are concerned.
Ignoring BJP this time may prove to be fatal for both INLD and Congress. Ticket distribution of BJP has thus far been the best as they have chosen people belonging to gotras which constitute majority in constituencies which will definitely make difference and spoil calculations.
jagmohan
January 21st, 2005, 08:06 AM
Q: Who Will Win?
A: The Politicians.
Q: Who Will Continue to be the Sufferers?
A: People of Haryana.
Q: What can we do?
A: Debate & Hope for the best.
Q: Any chances of a Brighter Future?
A: At least I can't see it.
rohittewatia
January 22nd, 2005, 01:03 AM
I heard that last time HCS main 125 main se 75 - 76 were JATS...
Is that true ?
Stay Tuned.
Inmen imaandaar candidates kih list shaid hum ungliyon per gin sakte aur paise waale candidates kih sankhya sey haryana key vikas main kuuch farak naheen padeyga.
rohittewatia
January 22nd, 2005, 01:24 AM
I have observed the functioning of different governments in Haryana since the hey days of Bansi Lal, I can say that what and now Chautala has done (of course next to Bansi Lal) for Haryana in recent years for Haryana in general and Jats in particular no other CM comes near to him. After Bansi Lal he has done maximum to improve the infrastructure in the State. So what if he has given only lip service, his record of going to villages under "sarkar aapke dwar" is unmatched. The onlly problem with him is his corrupt image and autocratic style of functioning. But show me even a single sarpanch, leave alone MLAs/MPs/CMs/PMs, who is clean.
Aaj agaar imaandaari bachi haito voh hai grass root level perhi(Village Level) milleygi, bhale sankhaya bahut hih kam hoh. Aur yeh apane gaon main naheen toh aas paas key kissi gaon main dekha jaa sakta hai. Aaj bhi kuuch log apane siddhanto per kayam haiin. A minor fraction of even the civil service officers are still honest. Aur unhin kih vajah sey desh chalata hai. And this lobby is quite powerful.
" Couple of years back in faridabad, there was an IAS Officer of bihar origin. Such was his honesty that he even refused to meet chautala When the latter came on a regular visit. Later when he was questioned by chautala's son about his not paying the visit, he boldly replied he had greater responsibilities towards the people of haryana rather than the CM himself."
Here's another one
http://www.the-week.com/24jul25/currentevents_article7.htm
rakesh_sehrawat
January 22nd, 2005, 01:01 PM
Mr. RK
ya I can understand your fealings but as I think this is not right solution. for solution we can do this by joining our hands together for a noble cause. yes fear must be created between these bhedias but path must be different. even our kaum is not united and this is the reason that haryanvi jats are not getting what they really deserves.
I think the permanent solution should be borrowed from the ladies of Nagpur. Remember, the Nagpur ladies went to the court and killed the goondas in front of the judge. If these politicians do not perform, go to the Assembly in hordes and beat them out of their senses. There is no Gandhian way to reform them.
naveen_chaudhary
January 25th, 2005, 01:56 PM
Recently, I watched a LIVE programme on Star News where CM Chautala sahab and Ch Birender Singh (Congress) were facing audience and were answering their questions in Sonepat. It was an interesting debate and audience were asking genuine questions related to the masses 'kati tarley bassan pe marrey they'.
There was a question related to government jobs and Ch Birender Singh said that they are being sold in Haryana for last 5 years now. Interestingly, he was booed down by the crowd when he said so. In this thread and otherwise also I hear people saying jobs are sold in Haryana but haven't met anyone who says yes I paid money for getting a job or my brother or family member did.
Whoever is claiming so on this site or otherwise have they been through this situation or are these allegations baseless? At least, 5 of my friends or relatives have got govt jobs in last few years. As far as my knowledge goes no one had to pay money at least.
Your thoughts please.
uday
January 25th, 2005, 02:31 PM
Dear Navin,
Pls. don't treat my reply as pro chautala govt or anti chautala govt.
For query I can't say whether these allegations are baseless or genuine but yes I can claim that two of my relatives got job and they haven't paid a single penny.
Four of my known people got job in haryana govt in diff. deptt. and same was answer from their side. All these 6 jobs are varying between class-1 to class-3 rank.
Abhi to bol rahe ho Naukri bikti hai.. doosree sarkar aan do fer puchoogey " JAT vastey Naukri kithey hai??" As per past record.....ek baar bhajan laal aagya to fir puuchna kisi jat bhai ko chapdassii ki naukri bhi mil jaye to ????
Stay Tuned
Uday
Recently, I watched a LIVE programme on Star News where CM Chautala sahab and Ch Birender Singh (Congress) were facing audience and were answering their questions in Sonepat. It was an interesting debate and audience were asking genuine questions related to the masses 'kati tarley bassan pe marrey they'.
There was a question related to government jobs and Ch Birender Singh said that they are being sold in Haryana for last 5 years now. Interestingly, he was booed down by the crowd when he said so. In this thread and otherwise also I hear people saying jobs are sold in Haryana but haven't met anyone who says yes I paid money for getting a job or my brother or family member did.
Whoever is claiming so on this site or otherwise have they been through this situation or are these allegations baseless? At least, 5 of my friends or relatives have got govt jobs in last few years. As far as my knowledge goes no one had to pay money at least.
Your thoughts please.
nitiz
January 25th, 2005, 03:08 PM
Respected member..:)
I too cleared last year examination of HCS , I had not paid any single penny or nor got any favour from any political or what so ever.......and One of my friend and member of this site got into HCS (Executive).....This year with his merit alone....:)
Regards
Niti
rohittewatia
January 25th, 2005, 08:22 PM
Respected member..:)
I too cleared last year examination of HCS , I had not paid any single penny or nor got any favour from any political or what so ever.......and One of my friend and member of this site got into HCS (Executive).....This year with his merit alone....:)
Regards
Niti
Can u please let us know whether you cleared the Prelims or Mains. As far as prelims is concerned, i agree with you. Individual talent and hardwork can take you upto this level. However, corruption comes after this level. However, it starts after this level. As far as i can think all seats are not sold and the ones not sold are small in number. And to have a place in this list you need to have an extraordinary talent for survival. Nowadays even crime is organised. Everything even these candidates selected(unfair means) are scanned thorughly, their family backgound, their family political background and thereafter. This ensures the safety of the list incase some honest candidate challenges the list in the court.
I remember during the last HCS, the daughter of DGP Malik who couldn't even pass +2 in a single attempt, was among the HCS Toppers. Thanks to bootlicking, it paid well. I have zero feelings for any political leader or party in haryana. However, it pains and pains a lot when some of our jatbhais still inh political gadhon kih poonch pakde khade rehte haiin kih konsa gadha abh kursi per baithe.
nitiz
January 25th, 2005, 08:55 PM
Bhai Rohit ..:)
I had cleared all the stages :)
Regards
Niti
itsnavin
January 25th, 2005, 09:35 PM
Ek baat to hai...chotala ke raaj mein paise de kar to Jaton ki naukri lag jaati hai...Bhajan ko aaney do...JAT taras jayengey naukariyon ke liye Haryana mein...
Actually, the problem is that Chotala Govt. is Pro JAT + Pro. Money...whereas Bhajan govt. is Anti JAT + Pro Money + Pro Bishnoi(no money required) + Pro Punjabis...isliye next govt. mein loss hee loss hai Jaton ko to...
mkm_jat
January 25th, 2005, 09:58 PM
Namaskar to all
As discussed in the debate above, The thing with CHAUTALA govt is true that they sale JOBS and specially to jats and who have contact to them. They worked a lot of for their VILLAGE CHAUTALA and dist SIRSA.
Though I'm don't belong to HARYANA but I wrote all matter on my personal exp.
I think CHAUTALA will not be the next CM of HARYANA as the general peoples of Haryana think and ALSO JATS who are should be in the favour of CHAUTALA, they dont want that CHAUTALA be the next CM.
If I written something wrong then Please apologise me.
Hope for good for HARYANA and Peoples of HR.
amar0974
January 27th, 2005, 03:41 PM
Theek Kaho so Bhaai saab 2 Naukri ta Maharey Jankara na mile sa Jo ya Mastera ke bharti hoye they ar ek aana nahi deya. 1 ta merey Mama na ar ek merey Kaaki na. Ye jo paisey devan ke baat kartey hain wa o a kisey na pakda aawa sa, haan sifaris ta ma inkaar nahi karta.
Dear Navin,
Pls. don't treat my reply as pro chautala govt or anti chautala govt.
For query I can't say whether these allegations are baseless or genuine but yes I can claim that two of my relatives got job and they haven't paid a single penny.
Four of my known people got job in haryana govt in diff. deptt. and same was answer from their side. All these 6 jobs are varying between class-1 to class-3 rank.
Abhi to bol rahe ho Naukri bikti hai.. doosree sarkar aan do fer puchoogey " JAT vastey Naukri kithey hai??" As per past record.....ek baar bhajan laal aagya to fir puuchna kisi jat bhai ko chapdassii ki naukri bhi mil jaye to ????
Stay Tuned
Uday
rohit_dhonchak
February 17th, 2005, 01:14 PM
God only can predict as to what will happen in Haryana..after all Hari ki land hai naa...I am sure every Royal family of Haryana is pitching to have the next CM from its clan..and who knows Billiyon ki larayee me bandar baaji maar jaye...One thing looks certain...If congress comes in power, you will see a real battle for Chief Ministership...you have Birender Singh, Surjewala sr and jr, Bansi Lal and sons and son-in-laws.....Jindal and sons...Bhajan Lal and sons... Dekho oont kis karwat baith ta hai...and finally it will be Her Majesty in Delhi who will decide as to who the CM should be...so my friends enjoy a beer of glass of lahssi....does it really matter who the CM should be in the type of politics we have in India ? Even Rabri Devi is running Bihar...Politics has become like family business..shares are allotted to family members only..
RK^2
But it is same on jats" the ruler "can't run the haryana.
jakhar77
February 17th, 2005, 06:41 PM
No diffrence at all.whoever will win,i can say the problems are not going to be solved.so do'nt waste your energy and time on these "faltoo"things.
devdahiya
February 17th, 2005, 06:57 PM
No diffrence at all.whoever will win,i can say the problems are not going to be solved.so do'nt waste your energy and time on these "faltoo"things.
What Sitaram bhai is saying is absolutely true. Who so ever wins, will do no good to people at large. they all are same . We have seen them in turn for many years as chief ministers and when one hears them talk ,they appear to me very cunning,crafty and cheapester fellas. These people don't have their basics correct............Over the years,they have mastered the art of talking nonesense and try to justify every thing they do. their roots are very deep and our people tow the lines with one or the other and hence the situation is always controlled by one of them and they know it. No sensible,honest,upright and decent person wants to venture into this poisonous and dirty well of politics and thats why these morons are having a field day.............YATHHA RAJA.......TATHHA PARJJA
ramksehrawat
February 18th, 2005, 03:12 PM
Kon jeetega ? 23 tareekh nai bera paat jyaga.
choudhary_tapan
February 27th, 2005, 11:07 AM
Loo bera paat gya uncle ji, frm all of our gd wishes Bhajan Lal is the new CM. So best wishes to him and hope for the bright future of Haryana n he stands up on his talks. :)