Next CM of Haryana!!

[apoonia]

Hi Guys,
who do u think will be the next cm of haryana
the top in my list are
Bhajan Lal
Bhupender Hooda
Shelja
one is Bishnoi other Jat and other SC
nothing personal but what is going on in my state where there is a majority of jats and we even cant come up one JAT cm ....
just looking 4 ur views :D

[raj2rif]

Dear Amit Ji,

It really doesn't matter who becomes the CM, they are all same. It will be better for the the state to have a CM from any caste so long he/she does good for state. Unfortunately most of them will do good only for themselves or for their political parties.

As far the caste equation is concerned, there are more challangers to a Jat Candidate from the jat community, than for Bishnoi/SC community for Bishnoi/SC candidate.

There is nothing to worry, if you don't get a Jat CM, except Ch. Bansi Lal in his first term as CM, I don't think others who came did any worthwhile contribution to the state.

[kulwant]

Ya its rightly said.....by Col Tevathayia.....we must get a good leader who can take the state in a new direction and who treats all the people of Haryana equally.

Also who show no nepotism in the recruitement.....candidate with good merit must get the priority let him be from any community or cast.

The would be CM must ensure that the money for development must be well accounted.

Just three(3 ) days back a new road was constructed in Faridabad(near Badkhal)......and any body can go and see the condition of that Road.....it is just 3 DAYS old.

So, better is we get an honest CM. But the possibility of getting an Honest CM is very bleak :) .

[uday]

Current available lot main to aisa 'projected' CM to koi hai nahi.

In sarey bhundyain main te ek sabse kam bhundaa "Sundar Kumar" hi is pardesh ki nayya ki bagdor sambhalega !!

Is there any other option ??

[ramksehrawat]

If INLD comes to power, chances of which are remote, there is doubt about the CM. If, however, Congress comes to power, which is very likely, there will be speculations for a few days; matter will go to Raj Darbar and Sonia Mata will definitely astonish the people of Haryana in naming a dark horse. Keeping in view that Hooda and Bhajan Lal are at loggerheads and may mar the chance of each other, the most likely CM will be Inderjit Singh. But don't ignore BJP, they are capable of proving us all wrong and if there is a hung Assembly, Chautala will still be CM with a Dy. CM from BJP; though remotest possibility.

[chhoraharyanada]

If INLD comes to power, chances of which are remote, there is doubt about the CM. If, however, Congress comes to power, which is very likely, there will be speculations for a few days; matter will go to Raj Darbar and Sonia Mata will definitely astonish the people of Haryana in naming a dark horse. Keeping in view that Hooda and Bhajan Lal are at loggerheads and may mar the chance of each other, the most likely CM will be Inderjit Singh. But don't ignore BJP, they are capable of proving us all wrong and if there is a hung Assembly, Chautala will still be CM with a Dy. CM from BJP; though remotest possibility.

Hi,

Yeh Inderjit Singh kaun hai? Have not heard of him before ...

I hope its not Bhajan Lal or this Shelja lady. If I was pushed into a corner, I'd go for Bhupinder Hooda.

Regards and RAM RAM,

[adhanda]

Could somebody plz explain to me why you guys are projecting defeat of INLD !!!, Amit even dint include Chautala's name in the list...I might not be aware of the right political situation, but I personally think Chautala's is the best CM haryana could possibly have, atleast for us. But again, never was India united against enemy, so no wonder we would be seeing bishnoi/SC CM.

Thing is, whoever is going to be the CM, is gonna take care of people from his won caste/village/locality only, so why not form a JAT.

[ramksehrawat]

Inderjit Singh, Minister of State for External Affairs is the son of Rao Birender Singh. Wind is blowing this time their way. Ahirs are all united to have their man as Chief Minister and there is every likelihood that Raj Darbar will grant them their wish.

[mayank_singh]

Bhaiyio koiye bi CM ban ja ghana sa raaji hon aali baat na sai....

je direct pahunch ho to thik sai na te ye NETA LOG kise ki bi nahi hote :(

jo bi aajya vo aapna ne naukari la de sai.....to bhaiyio kaam karvane ho to pahunch bana lyo......ghani si in te ummeed na karo :)

[chhoraharyanada]

Inderjit Singh, Minister of State for External Affairs is the son of Rao Birender Singh. Wind is blowing this time their way. Ahirs are all united to have their man as Chief Minister and there is every likelihood that Raj Darbar will grant them their wish.

I read the Tribune online nearly every single day.

Not once have I ever come across this guy's name.

No chance!

Hooda will be next CM.

Regards and RAM RAM,

[abhishek]

A digression, but worth in this context

http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=63636


n the shadow of statues, His Father’s Son is on lone journey
DIPTOSH MAJUMDAR

Posted online: Saturday, January 29, 2005 at 0144 hours IST

HISAR (HARYANA), JANUARY 28: Jats do not like statues. Ambitious and practical, they believe an icon’s memory is best preserved by carrying on with his good work. Haryana Chief Minister Om Prakash Chautala erred in evaluating the Jat psyche. He planted his father and tallest Jat leader Devi Lal’s statues everywhere. Public response has been as cold as the Makrana marble these statues are carved out of.

This is the real tragedy of Haryana elections in 2005. No prize for guessing that Chautala and his Indian National Lok Dal’s campaign has slipped into a lacklustre mode. It is the mudslinging over Devi Lal’s statues, sprouting alongside the rich mustard and wheat crops in Jhajjar, Rohtak and Hissar, which bothers the elderly Jats. Baldeep Singh of Meham shakes his head despairingly, ‘‘Chautala went for overkill with this ploy of evoking nostalgia. It boomeranged. Devi Lal’s name has been sullied beyond repair.’’

Not that the prosperous Jat society has ever emulated the ‘‘backward’’ way of voting en bloc. Even when Bansi Lal was routed in 2000, the 32-per cent Jats of Haryana did not stand solidly behind the ailing Devi Lal, still alive and canvassing for his dependent son. Chautala won but Jats had not blessed him with their unified support. Strangely, it has never bothered Chautala that this is the first assembly poll he is fighting on his own. And he is over seventy.

Having lived in the shadow of his father, Chautala had no clue before the Parliametnary polls last year that a marauding anti-incumbency wave was soon going to overtake him. The INLD was wiped out. His supporters whisper, ‘‘Had Tau (Devi Lal) been around, he would have severed links with the BJP long ago. What were their six legislators doing in the last assembly? They were lambasting us forgetting that we are the senior partner with 47 MLAs. Jats never subscribed to the brand of Hindutva that the BJP was hawking. Even the nine per cent Punjabi settlers carry no memories of the Partition carnage.’’

With no allies and aided just by his two sons, Ajay and Abhay, Chautala cuts a very lonely figure. And his last bet, flickering embers of his father’s memory, cannot be rekindled anymore.

Since Devi Lal’s death in 2001, Chautala has honoured him with too many statues sporting dark INLD-green pagdis, too many brown, dusty parks, too many unkempt Devi Lal Bhavans, too many pedestals in desolate villages where the statue’s only company is hostile and howling northerlies. It is the same ‘‘We-love-Ambedkar’’ strategy that BSP strongwoman, Mayawati tried out successfully in Uttar Pradesh. Haryana is no Uttar Pradesh.

Says Mahender Singh of Jhajjar, ‘‘What about Sir Chhotu Ram? He was the real Jat, a businessman-philanthropist, a selfless donor. Haryana can’t be just Devi Lal’s zamindari?’’ In Mahendragrah, Om Pal insists: ‘‘Remember how the Americans brought down Saddam’s statues. After the elections, these pratimas will come crashing down.’’

While Chautala floundered in assessing the Jat mood, other parties shrewdly took advantage. The Congress has powerful Jat nominees. Even the BSP, making a pitch for the most backward vote, has put in a few Jats in its basket of candidates. But why are the Jats moving away from Chautala? ‘‘Tanashahi (dictatorship),’’ says the average INLD worker. Chautala kept power to himself. The MLAs were worse off than sarpanches.

If Bansi Lal had to go because of his ‘‘ariyalpan’’ (obstinacy), Chautala is paying the price for his perceived image of a tyrant. ‘‘Aurangzeb,’’ says Ved Pal in Bahu Akbarpur. ‘‘Saddam Hussain,’’ asserts Raj Singh in Hissar. Deshwali or Dhe Jats with their long military history in these terrains despise dictatorship in any form. As long as power is shared, they have no complaints.

Chautala has his back to the wall because he had not delegated responsibilities and decision-making powers.

[rsdalal]

Chautala will be punished by voters, cogress will be in power, it will punish jats, Chautala will be voted back next time...
should not there be any end to this... How about we just vote for retired armed force candidates only (Real one, not the top level)....

[devdahiya]

Chautala will be punished by voters, cogress will be in power, it will punish jats, Chautala will be voted back next time...
should not there be any end to this... How about we just vote for retired armed force candidates only (Real one, not the top level)....

My dear Ranvir ji,

It won't make any difference as today's politics is of cut throat and anybody from olive green will be most unfit for this job.Who so ever becomes the CM........DHAK KE TEEN PAAT wali baat hai.System needs overhauling but nobody is interested and this confusion suits the present lot of politicians.Only dignified,truly educated and honest people together can deliver.It is tragic and sad but fact is that Politicians never discuss or even touch the real social issues.........they only misguide the guilible masses and rule the way they want............In nutshell they are maddaris and janta is banddar.....HAR SAKH PE ULLU BAITHHA........................................... .

[sansanwalamit]

C for Chautala,
C for Corrupt,
C for Compromise,
I don't know much about the political scene in Haryana, although I know about Chautala. He has done very good to Harayana and he is also famous for being very greedy. But does anyone know any polictician who is'nt corrupt or greedy.
So, why have some Bishnoi or Harijan as Harayana's CM, I prefer a corrupt Jat to anyone else.
I hope Chautala or if not him then certainly a Jat becomes the CM of Haryana.

[pradeeprana]

hi guys,

next CM is randeep singh surjewala.

bye pradeep

[devdahiya]

hi guys,

next CM is randeep singh surjewala.

bye pradeep

I agree with Pradip...............A young Truk and his head on his shoulders should be an ideal choice. That will be real good for the state.............wish you luck Mr surjewala!

[kantasingh]

Dear Pradeep,

I like the confidence and I understand that there has to be a reason for that.

[naveen_chaudhary]

Dear Pradeep,

I like the confidence and I understand that there has to be a reason for that.


Though I can't predict with such precision and confidence but I hope our friend Pradeep is not Sonia Gandhi in disguise (in case Congress wins majority in Haryana).

[uday]

Chandermookhi ho ya paroo;
Ki farak painda yaroo !!

[adhanda]

Its strange to hear that it doesn't matter whoever becomes the CM !!!, this 'koi farak nahin padta' approach is our real enemy. You keep scolding the govt thru out its tenure, and now when u r given the power to judje, u say it doesn't matter !!!!,

Offcourse India needs educated politicians, but more than that she needs educated and responsible voters who can vote for them.

Its my request for those who think that this election is all farce, plz dont discourage others. Let them discuss and decide.

Abhishek

[uday]

Bhai Abhishek,

sayyad aap actual matlan samjhe nahi...This is in concern to my previous reply...whichever govt. will be in power...will fillup his pockets first rather uplifting of "state ki Praja"..

Haryana main ..Cong... INLD .. sab ek jaisey hain....
Aapko pata hoga.. sarkar kisi ki bhi aaye.. atleast politicians ke kaam aapas main kabhi nahi rooktey.. chaiiye vo INLD ho ya fir cong. ho...sab ek thalee ke chattey battey hain..

Endpoint is always sufferer !!
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Current available lot main to aisa 'projected' CM to koi hai nahi.

In sarey bhundyain main te ek sabse kam bhundaa "Sundar Kumar" hi is pardesh ki nayya ki bagdor sambhalega !!

Is there any other option ??

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Its strange to hear that it doesn't matter whoever becomes the CM !!!, this 'koi farak nahin padta' approach is our real enemy. You keep scolding the govt thru out its tenure, and now when u r given the power to judje, u say it doesn't matter !!!!,

Offcourse India needs educated politicians, but more than that she needs educated and responsible voters who can vote for them.

Its my request for those who think that this election is all farce, plz dont discourage others. Let them discuss and decide.

Abhishek

[meetmanu]

Chautala will be punished by voters, cogress will be in power, it will punish jats, Chautala will be voted back next time...
should not there be any end to this... How about we just vote for retired armed force candidates only (Real one, not the top level)....
Dear Ranvir ji,

I would tend to agree with you about putting an end to this musical chair game of CM'ship. But there are two pertinent questions here relating to "how" and "who"? The problem with the masses (us included) is that they sit at a distance, as if witnessing a drama being unfolded in a theater, and sulk at what goes on the stage. I wonder how many serious attempts have been made to put up a viable option to the three Lals in Haryana over the past almost four decades now. How many educated and progressive minded Jats have thought of adopting politics as a profession and thereby, bring some respect back to the sullied image of a typical politician? More importantly, how many parents tell their wards that just like engineering, medicine, law, civil services etc., politics is also a career option for them? On the national stage though, admittedly some fine educated young men have entered politics with the likes of Sachin Pilot, Navin Jindal, Omar Abdullah, Rahul Gandhi et al (irrespective of their political affiliations, they are all professionally educated). The need is to replicate this in our state also.

If a change has to be brought to the society, we have to start at our own homes; becuase, it is you and me who make the society. As someone said, boond doond se hi sagar bharta hai.

I am aware of an initiative similar to what someone suggested earlier in this earlier regarding the retired armed forces personnel taking the mantle for change in leadership. In Gurgaon, there is this retired colonel who is mobilizing the resident welfare associations to form a party for the benefit of hoi polloi (in contrast to power hungry/money making machines that most of the current lot of political parties can be described as). I do not know what would be the outcome of his endeavors, but it appears to be a sincere beginning towards eradicating haryanvis from the nefarious "diggajs" of political milieu of Haryana.

I hope more such beginnings are made and more importantly, they meet success.

Manu

[devdahiya]

Dear Ranvir ji,

I would tend to agree with you about putting an end to this musical chair game of CM'ship. But there are two pertinent questions here relating to "how" and "who"? The problem with the masses (us included) is that they sit at a distance, as if witnessing a drama being unfolded in a theater, and sulk at what goes on the stage. I wonder how many serious attempts have been made to put up a viable option to the three Lals in Haryana over the past almost four decades now. How many educated and progressive minded Jats have thought of adopting politics as a profession and thereby, bring some respect back to the sullied image of a typical politician? More importantly, how many parents tell their wards that just like engineering, medicine, law, civil services etc., politics is also a career option for them? On the national stage though, admittedly some fine educated young men have entered politics with the likes of Sachin Pilot, Navin Jindal, Omar Abdullah, Rahul Gandhi et al (irrespective of their political affiliations, they are all professionally educated). The need is to replicate this in our state also.

If a change has to be brought to the society, we have to start at our own homes; becuase, it is you and me who make the society. As someone said, boond doond se hi sagar bharta hai.

I am aware of an initiative similar to what someone suggested earlier in this earlier regarding the retired armed forces personnel taking the mantle for change in leadership. In Gurgaon, there is this retired colonel who is mobilizing the resident welfare associations to form a party for the benefit of hoi polloi (in contrast to power hungry/money making machines that most of the current lot of political parties can be described as). I do not know what would be the outcome of his endeavors, but it appears to be a sincere beginning towards eradicating haryanvis from the nefarious "diggajs" of political milieu of Haryana.

I hope more such beginnings are made and more importantly, they meet success.

Manu


Dear ManMohan ji,

Your post makes an intresting reading.Your observation is correct on paper as a blue print but away from realities. May i with your permission say a few words:

1] Any sensible person with good education qualification remains away from politics because it's a mirage and mirage kills or makes you repent. Today if you want to be a leader,following qualification are needed;

a] YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL A WHITE LIE SUCCESSFULLY
b] YOU SHOULD DEVIDE AND RULE[DO MA IN THAT SUBJECT]
c] You must promise moon always but don't remember what you promise
d] CORRUPT OFFICIALS AND ASSOCIATES SHOULD BE YOUR CRONIES
e] YOU SHOULD ME IMMUNE TO CRITICISM....LET PEOPLE BARK
f] ANY BODY INTERFEARING WITH YOUR WAY OF FUNCTIONING MUST BE ASSASINATED.
g] YOU SHOULD BE A CROOK OF HIGHEST ORDER[ THICK SKINNED BAFFOON]


Problem is that you also need lots of black money to get nominated for an election.THERE ARE NO INSTITUTES IN THE WORLD TO GIVE YOU A DEGREE IN ABOVE DISCIPLINES and hence people go for jobs and not politics. HOWEVER I WISH YOUR IDEAS A GOOD RECEPTION AND ACCEPTANCE.......GOD SPEED!

[sukhbirsingh]

C for Chautala,
C for Corrupt,
C for Compromise,
I don't know much about the political scene in Haryana, although I know about Chautala. He has done very good to Harayana and he is also famous for being very greedy. But does anyone know any polictician who is'nt corrupt or greedy.
So, why have some Bishnoi or Harijan as Harayana's CM, I prefer a corrupt Jat to anyone else.
I hope Chautala or if not him then certainly a Jat becomes the CM of Haryana.

Well i think u dont know what a bloody Chautala is, In his timeover u dont know what happened i am a sufferer. i faced HPSC commission two times in his time.
What i noticed-
So many politically motivated what so called Chamche of chautala came and sad u marry my daughter, we will arrange job for u.
so mr sauda hota tha, can u support this if u have some JAMEER,
other thing second time I was only Jat candiate out of 6 candidate for 3 seats, than only money matters u know what was the main thing i was most qualified out of all six.
So how we can support such bloody person in the name of ast who is ignoring the most qualified person like me.
so we should try to have some better option. so many other leader are there in other parties we can support them.
Dont mind this is my personal experience about him.

[ramksehrawat]

Nain sahab,

Though I am not a very great supporter of Chautala, this auction of jobs has been going on for as long as I can remember; at least 25 years I am personally aware. Hence, chautala or no chautala, functioning of PSCs will not be affected.

[naveen_chaudhary]

I think the sole criteria of meritocracy for selection in govt jobs has died long time ago. Regardless of who is ruling the state, either Jack or Cheque is required for most of the govt jobs (in all states) until and unless you are trying for a post for which selection can not be influenced (wonder if such a job exists may be civil services or defence).

Everything boils down to the same thing do you have right connection or not (Jack). If not then pay (Cheque). If you have none then you have to be extremely lucky to get in to one.

Baki sarkari naukri chaiye to safed kurte pajame aale ne pakad lyo. Naukri miley pache bhi bahut jarrorat padegi, kade transfer karaan khatir ar kade transfer cancel karaan khatir.

[ratan_1976]

As the more chances r of the Congers only so I like Randeep Singh Surjewala as next CM.

Atleast he is young and educated and we can hope something better from him as compared to other useless candidates.

[ramksehrawat]

I will be surprised if Surjewala manage to become even a Minister. Hawks like Bhajan Lal will not allow this. If choice boils down to a jat, either it will be Bhupendar Singh Hooda or Virender Singh.

[devdahiya]

My dear Sehrawat bhai ji,

Surjewala will undoubtedly a dark horse,if congress gets majority.He will be a compromise candidate with Sonia's full blessings.Anybody opening his/her gob will be finished for ever. Also jab billi laddatti honn uska fayda te bander jaroor thhawegga. Bhajanlal will never be.............He will take credit as a king maker.......he will never annoy SONIA at any cost............He will propose Surjewala's name......wait and watch. But Surjewala must defeat chautala for that to happen.

[ramksehrawat]

My dear Sehrawat bhai ji,

Surjewala will undoubtedly a dark horse,if congress gets majority.He will be a compromise candidate with Sonia's full blessings.Anybody opening his/her gob will be finished for ever. Also jab billi laddatti honn uska fayda te bander jaroor thhawegga. Bhajanlal will never be.............He will take credit as a king maker.......he will never annoy SONIA at any cost............He will propose Surjewala's name......wait and watch. But Surjewala must defeat chautala for that to happen.

Dahiyaji,

You have rightly said first obstacle for Surjewala is Chautala. Defeating Chautala is a tough job. Second if Surjewala is appointed CM, without any previous experience at all, it will create problems for Central Government, where several young men are vying with each other to get a berth in the Cabinet. Moreover, leaders like Hooda will get disenchanted with Congress, if a kaal ka chhora is appointed CM. In case of any disagreement among jats on leadership issue, the dark horse/mare are Rao Inderjit Singh and Selja. This is what I think.

[danarambeerda]

harayane ka mukhiya Bhajan Lal hi banega, Jat chahe kitna bhi jor lagalo, sara jor dhara ka dhara rah jayega aur Bhajana Bisnoi Mukhiya ek baar phir ban jayega...very funny... (Bhajana bhi to jaat ka hi khoon hai)

"Bhala manao Bhagwan ka ki koi Bhairon Singhj nahi hai haryana mm"

Regards to all.

[viveksiwatch]

Respected Col.

Felt really nice on reading that people do appreciate real work. You appreciated Mr Bansi Lal's work and it showed that people are aware.

Regards,

~Vivek


Dear Amit Ji,

It really doesn't matter who becomes the CM, they are all same. It will be better for the the state to have a CM from any caste so long he/she does good for state. Unfortunately most of them will do good only for themselves or for their political parties.

As far the caste equation is concerned, there are more challangers to a Jat Candidate from the jat community, than for Bishnoi/SC community for Bishnoi/SC candidate.

There is nothing to worry, if you don't get a Jat CM, except Ch. Bansi Lal in his first term as CM, I don't think others who came did any worthwhile contribution to the state.