Nonica Dutta

[vsinghchaudhry]

Do people here know who Mrs Nonica Dutta is.Recently have been surfin the net and have been reading a lot of derogatory material against jats .She apparantly has written a book which is in wide circulation.

I am a new member here and look forward to peoples replies.

[stokas]

You are right dear,

She has written a book, titled:

Forming An Identity : A Social History Of The Jats

Check it out at:
http://www.cscsarchive.org:8081/MediaArchive/Library.nsf/(docid)/D783606FE3CB992CE52568530026C24B?OpenDocument&StartKey=Forming&Count=10

But, I don't know anything about her surfing the net.

Shailendra

[vsinghchaudhry]

Well sir i was talking about myself on the net ,read this article by some DRchaudhry,this dosent look like a riview in any hsape or form,i made another of my friends read it who himself isnt even indian ,and he said the samething ,the tone of the whole article is so anti jat.
Why do they hate us after all that we stood for?

http://members.aol.com/mahapunjab/oldchaudhry.html

[ratananmol]

One thing that negates the account narrated by DR Chaudhary is the very principal he invokes to refute the alternative pro-jat theories i.e., lack of support and credible references which are missing to support his hypothesis.
Please do not get emotional-he might have been beaten by some of us at some point of time and will be beaten again if we identify him.
Now to sow some logic in attempts to reconstruct our history i invoke the Nobel Laureate economist George Akerlof who spent time in northern plains of India in 1960's studying the "Economics of Caste and Discrimination".As per Akerlof the phenomenon of the upward mobilty and social status of castes is dependent on their economic performance overtime.So if we were not rulers in ancient india we earned the fertile belt of land in the indo gangetic plains thru our sheer hardwork and optimal behaviour and if the trends continue the caste will grow powerful and wealthy to an extent than we can offer "Widow remarriage" to Brahmins and other Jat-Baiters and provide fullproof guarantees for the proper uptake of their women in Jat social order after we are done with their men.

[vsinghchaudhry]

Funny you should say that ,cause i was sure he was badly mistreated by some jat youth in his college years or maybe even worse some jat ran away with his sister.
How come none of these writers ever talk about The kingdom of bharatpur or the democratic sarv khaps that fought many a invading army or how widow remarriage is prevlent in our society .
And how can we get a physical hold of Nonica dutta or DR chaudhry show them how jat and uncivilised we really are.. :mad:

[ravichaudhary]

You can find Miss Dutta at Miranda House, New Delhi.

These archives have a few posts on her and her writings.

Best ignore her and D R Chaudry.

The only sensible thing to do is to support the Jat historians, who are bringing out excellent material.

Dr Balbir Singh, Dr Nathan Singh, Dr Vir singh, Nihal Singh, DharamPal Vidyalankar, and the late Thakur Desraj, DS Ahlawat, Pauria, Dahiya, to name a just a few .

Help is needed in translating, and publishing material.

These things cost money, and also people willing to undertake the task

People willing to help may please contact me



Ravi Chaudhary

[sandeepbalyan]

Good Line

"when a Jat runs wild it needs God to hold him back"

from this link

http://members.aol.com/mahapunjab/oldchaudhry.html


Best Regards
Sandeep Balyan

[vsinghchaudhry]

Yes it is a jat saying,but you should see in what context it it smentioned in the book.

Ravi i breifly know about the historians mentioned,how many of these historians claim the theory of jats being found in America and the mythological beginings to their origin.Information that makes me laugh on these claims.

[mit]

Dear friends
this nonica datta and the other D.r choudhary i presume these to are bengalis and am quite shure they have got some serious problem with us jat all i can say is i am gonna **** these mother ******lets get together and i have planned to visit india in june i m gonna go and will see these of twaits anyone wanna join me in this let me know.common jats if now u wont do any thing than shame on being a jat on us let me know if any one wanna join me if not i m gonna see this slut nonica and this pimp D.r choudhary myself.ya here is the page u will feel exactly like me after reading http://members.aol.com/mahapunjab/oldchaudhry.html :mad:

[ravichaudhary]

Ravi i breifly know about the historians mentioned,how many of these historians claim the theory of jats being found in America and the mythological beginings to their origin.Information that makes me laugh on these claims.

Dear V Singh

This may be a little off thread, but a few rhetorical questions, if you permit!

Why does it make you laugh?

Who does not have mythological origins ?

Besides when mythological origins are referred to, what exactly does one mean?

Why should the jats be an exception, and br excluded from having mythological origins?


As for America, who did discover America? Christopher Columbus? The Vikings?Other Europeans?

Could no one from Asia have travelled across the Pacific? The technology existed.

Have you read any of the works refered to? if so which ones?


Best regards


Ravi Chaudhary

[vsinghchaudhry]

Dear friends
this nonica datta and the other D.r choudhary i presume these to are bengalis and am quite shure they have got some serious problem with us jat all i can say is i am gonna **** these mother ******lets get together and i have planned to visit india in june i m gonna go and will see these of twaits anyone wanna join me in this let me know.common jats if now u wont do any thing than shame on being a jat on us let me know if any one wanna join me if not i m gonna see this slut nonica and this pimp D.r choudhary myself.ya here is the page u will feel exactly like me after reading http://members.aol.com/mahapunjab/oldchaudhry.html :mad:

Amit , shanti rakh merae bhai,when i read her reviews and extracts of her book makes me wanna take a lathi and beat her up and then take her and leave her in one of the khets near baraut ,maybe the jat boys can show her a thing or 2 ...i appologise for the manner in which im writing but people like her need to be made examples of.Highlighting facts is ok ,but distorting facts such that my forefathers are ridiculed is just too much.A lot of people have had animosity against the jats ,its just tough to understand why?December is when i goto india,i dont know about any one else but i surely will do something about this. :mad:
Ravi ji,are you sugesting that the initial inhabitants of america were jats,what technology are we talking about,just because some 1 wrote it makes you wanto believe in it .And comming to the question of mythology ,sir i am astaunch arya samaji and these theories dont fit in parallel to my beliefs. :confused: :confused: :confused:

[ravichaudhary]

Ravi ji,are you sugesting that the initial inhabitants of america were jats,what technology are we talking about,just because some 1 wrote it makes you wanto believe in it .And comming to the question of mythology ,sir i am astaunch arya samaji and these theories dont fit in parallel to my beliefs. :confused: :confused: :confused:


Dear V Singhji

I mean no disrespect, and am not suggesting anything.

I am simply opening up the proposition.

Was it possible that someone fom India could have discovered America in say 2000 BCE?.

Indians had Ocean going ships at that time.

So the technology did exist!

Then could some jat not have discovered " america" ?

Now proving something like that may be another story!

On Nonica Datta,

I asked one the our respected Historians, as to who she was, and why she wrote this stuff.( i.e sitting in Delhi why they permitted it)

His response was:

" She can write what she likes,"

i.e Rather than give her undue importance, and waste your energy, why not get that energy and use it for a better more lasting purpose.

Like getting the work of the Jats historians out there or collecting Jat history material.

In my humble opinion, that will be much more effective, in the short and long run.

Very best regards



Ravi Chaudhary

[vsinghchaudhry]

Sir i am not offended in any shape or form at all.Just some questions for you,dont take them the wrong way ,they are more like information needed to enlighten me more on this topic.In which book is this mentioned that america was inhabiited by jats ,dont you think we should seperate facts from fiction,history are evnts that happened,is there god ,what is his name ,where did he live ,is certainly not history atleast according to me .
Your 2 cents please !