Fear?

[gaganjat]

Dear Jats

Is fear learnt or natural?
A child tries to hold the flame, feel the heat and learn never to do it again. But that is not necessarily a fear. Some people have Phobia.
Some people are scared of height and some are not. How it happens?
Is it because they are brought up, telling things as ‘dangerous’ which actually are not?

I have observed that this ‘Fear factor’ is missing from Jats to an extent. It must be because of the way they are brought up in brave Jat families.

These things sounds small but ‘brave people’ is ‘brave nation’. If India was a Jat country it would have been the strongest country in the world.

Please suggest.

[sandeep.dahiya]

I think fear is learnt. Phobia bachpan se kisi ko nahi hota. This phobia is something which parents give to their child after birth. like

"Doodh pe le nahi to baba(bhooth etc...) aa jaaega.

"uper mat chad gir jaayega"

etc
etc...

[gaganjat]

Sandeep,that sounds right but there can be some more possibilities. If someone has done any reasearch on it or know any thing about this topic please let us know.







I think fear is learnt. Phobia bachpan se kisi ko nahi hota. This phobia is something which parents give to their child after birth. like

"Doodh pe le nahi to baba(bhooth etc...) aa jaaega.

"uper mat chad gir jaayega"

etc
etc...

[stokas]

Gagan Bhai,

Fears are a natural part of life. Everyone fears something such as being robbed, or being hurt in an accident. This type of fear is not necessarily bad; as it may prompt someone to take precautions, such as locking doors or wearing safety belts.
More severe cases are often the result of a traumatic childhood event. Most of the time the event can no longer be recalled by the conscious mind, but is still retained in the subconscious.
Most fears develop during childhood, but fears can develop during adulthood also. Some fears that develop in adulthood are caused by chemical imbalances.
If a person experiences a fear strongly and/or frequently, they may begin to fear losing control. They can become afraid to feel the fear; and go out of their way to avoid anything that might trigger it. When this happens, the fear becomes a phobia.
Here are 10 of the most common phobias:
Fear of :
1. Public Speaking
2. Dying
3. The Dark
4. Being alone
5. Being wrong
6. Looking bad
7. Flying
8. Driving
9. Rejection
10.Needles

And I come in the very first group :)

Shailendra

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-All is well with him, whose heart is turned towards the truth. No disease, physical or mental, can assault him.

[gaganjat]

Shailendra bhai,

Thanks for sharing the knowledge.

You said 'And I come in the very first group' (i.e1. Public Speaking)

LoL :D One thing I am pretty sure that you dont come in the first group. You can be in other 9 (or all of other 9) but not in 1. ;) Ha ha ha

[stokas]

Gagan bhai,

Maan lyo meri baat...........main usi group mein aata hoon. :mad:

Don't relate that with myself writing here at Jatland.
Actually, many are very much comfortable in writing like this or talking over phone - but when it comes to public speaking - myself and all those are dull dear :)

Aur vishwas nahin hotta tae pooch lyo kisi bhi DJM member se :o

(waise main kisi Hypnotist ke paas jaane ki bhi soch raha hoon :rolleyes: )

[gaganjat]

Yea 'Darr' door ho jayega.

We will organize a 'jat function' sometime and you have to sing (not just speak) Mohd.rafi's songs in it (on a grand stage) in front of thousands. Than it will be alright. wat u reckon?


Gagan bhai,

Maan lyo meri baat...........main usi group mein aata hoon. :mad:

Don't relate that with myself writing here at Jatland.
Actually, many are very much comfortable in writing like this or talking over phone - but when it comes to public speaking - myself and all those are dull dear :)

Aur vishwas nahin hotta tae pooch lyo kisi bhi DJM member se :o

(waise main kisi Hypnotist ke paas jaane ki bhi soch raha hoon :rolleyes: )

[rajeshrathee]

"We have two kinds of fears.
One is a fear that whatever is going on is going to go on forever. It’s just not true -- nothing goes on forever.

The other is the fear that, even if it doesn’t go on forever, the pain of whatever is happening will be so terrible we won’t be able to stand it.

There is a gut level of truth about this fear. It would be ridiculous to pretend that in our lives, in these physical bodies, which can hurt very much, and in relationships that can hurt very much, there aren’t some very, very painful times. Even so, I think we underestimate ourselves. Terrible as times may be, I believe we can stand them.

"Because we become frightened as soon as a difficult mind state blows into the mind, we start to fight with it. We try to change it, or we try to get rid of it. The frenzy of the struggle makes the mind state even more unpleasant.

"The familiar image is a children’s cartoon character, like Daffy Duck, walking along freely and suddenly stepping into taffy. In a hasty, awkward attempt to extricate himself, he might fall forward and backward and eventually be totally stuck in the taffy. Even children see a better solution.

"The best solution would be the nonalarmed recognition, ‘This is taffy. I didn’t see it as I stepped into it, but I felt it after I got stuck. It’s just taffy. The whole world is not made out of taffy. What would be a wise thing for me to do now?'"


"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, “Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?” Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There's nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine as children do. We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It's not just in some of us; it's in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we're liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others

[gaganjat]

Rathee Bhaisaab ,thanks for sharing your valuable information about this topic.

[raj2rif]

The Fear is both lack of knowledge as well as the experience. Lack of knowledge means "unknown". Fear is of unknown things. Once you are through it once, you don't fear it. However if your first experience is a bad one, then probably it may trun in to phobia.

Imagine the situation, your first day in a school, your first day on the job. When you do a thing for the first time, you don't know what all is going to happen and that is what develops into fear.

[ramksehrawat]

The Fear is both lack of knowledge as well as the experience. Lack of knowledge means "unknown". Fear is of unknown things. Once you are through it once, you don't fear it. However if your first experience is a bad one, then probably it may trun in to phobia.

Imagine the situation, your first day in a school, your first day on the job. When you do a thing for the first time, you don't know what all is going to happen and that is what develops into fear.


I entirely agree with you Col. sahab that fear is nothing but ignorance. We jats start inculcating fear in our kids from the early childhood itself by showing fear of "hawoo aa jyaga" (Till now I don't know what hawoo is) and "haath lavega ta khaa lega", doob jyaga etc. etc. and some people carry these impressions all through their lives. Though personally I know no fears but in spite of being frequent flier have some strange feeling while airborne. Is it fear ? I don't know but there is certainly an apprehensin of some mishap.

[gaganjat]

Thanks heaps for your replies.

The 'first time' thing , 'lack of knowledge'
and the 'way parents brought up their kids' are definitely the factors working behind fear.

parents use things like 'Hawoo aa jayaga' (just for their convenience and get the things done by kids) which creates initial fear and then kids start relating different things with them, which in turn broaden their fear.

Thanks again, Col Virendra S Tavathia and RK Sehrawat Ji for your wounderful replies.

Posted by raj2rif
The Fear is both lack of knowledge as well as the experience. Lack of knowledge means "unknown". Fear is of unknown things. Once you are through it once, you don't fear it. However if your first experience is a bad one, then probably it may trun in to phobia.

Imagine the situation, your first day in a school, your first day on the job. When you do a thing for the first time, you don't know what all is going to happen and that is what develops into fear.


I entirely agree with you Col. sahab that fear is nothing but ignorance. We jats start inculcating fear in our kids from the early childhood itself by showing fear of "hawoo aa jyaga" (Till now I don't know what hawoo is) and "haath lavega ta khaa lega", doob jyaga etc. etc. and some people carry these impressions all through their lives. Though personally I know no fears but in spite of being frequent flier have some strange feeling while airborne. Is it fear ? I don't know but there is certainly an apprehensin of some mishap.

[dhruvdahiya]

Fear also helps keeping people in check and hence it should not be branded as negative attribute always.A little bit of fear keeps us in check and guids us to correct destinations. Fear can be of KNOWNS and UNKNOWNS.

[stokas]

Yea 'Darr' door ho jayega.

We will organize a 'jat function' sometime and you have to sing (not just speak) Mohd.rafi's songs in it (on a grand stage) in front of thousands. Than it will be alright. wat u reckon?

Theek hai Gagan, yeh koshish bhi karke dekh lenge ek din :)

Lekin Mohd. Rafi ke saath-saath Kishore Kumar ke bhi jaroor gawana :D

[gaganjat]

Dhruv, fear make us take some precautions,which is good but fear itself is negative.

Fear also helps keeping people in check and hence it should not be branded as negative attribute always.A little bit of fear keeps us in check and guids us to correct destinations. Fear can be of KNOWNS and UNKNOWNS.

[gaganjat]

No worries! Anything! I will turn up only when you finish all that :D


Theek hai Gagan, yeh koshish bhi karke dekh lenge ek din :)

Lekin Mohd. Rafi ke saath-saath Kishore Kumar ke bhi jaroor gawana :D

[dhruvdahiya]

gagan uncle.


i will not argue on this but will politely say that......' precautions were taken because of fear and hence we can't see these two in isolation' : God fearing is another one. we ought to analyse the word further to understand it better uncle.


F - futuristic
E- expectations
A- anticipating
R- reversals


Due respect

[gaganjat]

Smart kid! you prove your point well.
All discussion Dhruv bete ,no argument.
You think different which is the best thing about you.
We need different views to explore. Keep it up.





gagan uncle.


i will not argue on this but will politely say that......' precautions were taken because of fear and hence we can't see these two in isolation' : God fearing is another one. we ought to analyse the word further to understand it better uncle.


F - futuristic
E- expectations
A- anticipating
R- reversals


Due respect

[dhruvdahiya]

gagan uncle, thank you for your good words. hope i did not annoy or hurt you? Uncle ji i am learning things. I liked your encouraging words....[soothing]



Thank u very much.

[ujjwal]

Very True Col. saab.