The Salman Khan-Underworld Nexus!!!...

[shailendra]

...Yaar yo Slaman Khaan ka maamla kae sai?
What is going on with this dude?
Is this some kind of conspiracy theory against him or the guy (apparently just like some other actor/actresses too) is involved in heavy kissing of the A** of these displaced underworld dons???

I mean, now they have come out in the papers that even Chhota Rajan says that he has seen Salman (with some name undisclosed Actress) at Dawood's wedding etc. when he was still working with the Don!

This has raised my heckles so much that it is unbelieveable! if the stories are true I sure hope that it is the end of the line for the 'shirtless' wonder! All I know is that this whole underworld-bollywood nexus aside, anything or anyone that supports anti-nationals should himself/herself be banned from all walks of life in the country!

I wonder what is the deal with the tapes too!?! I mean, what is going on here? If apparently these are genuine and the police had them since 2001 when tapping his phones for whatever reasons....than what the #$@%* were they doing till now?

Geez... and to think they cannot even set up a sting operation aginst any of these Don's celeberating their family's weddings etc. openly in those other 'friendly' nations!

[poonam]

what a pity! bad news for Salman's fans. I feel sorry for him that he is in the midst of yet another controversy. I wonder why action was not taken four years ago if those tapes about his bragging of underworld links are real. Is it because police did not consider salman to be a big threat or what? Now if these proofs are tempered with or real who knows. I hope he turns out to be innocent... ..looks unlikely though!

[shailendra]

what a pity! bad news for Salman's fans. I feel sorry for him that he is in the midst of yet another controversy. I wonder why action was not taken four years ago if those tapes about his bragging of underworld links are real. Is it because police did not consider salman to be a big threat or what? Now if these proofs are tempered with or real who knows. I hope he turns out to be innocent... ..looks unlikely though!

True, most of the people (at least the younger generation) consider him an icon and would wish that it is something that just dies it natural death... But then consider the flip side of the coin; If it is true and the guy has been falunting with danger all this time- then what is the verdict???

Even Sunjay Dutt was able to squeeze and scrap thru only by the space of his teeth when it came to all his gun possession charges etc. (and charges, that were later found untrue, of having a hand in the Bombay blasts etc.)...and that too after numerous court appearances and not having to be able to leave the country and all that.

The point I am trying to make is that these things are not ever taken lightly by the general public even when it involves a larger than life figure!

So, for argument sake if anything of this whole business with Salman Khan and his supposed nexus with the underworld comes out to be true; I personally hope that they do something that at least sends out a clear signal to everyone else that the very persons that are in the public eye and are the idols and the icons for the generation next, are NOT, and CANNOT really be some low life two timing triators!!!

[haryanajat]

Salman Khan is an icon? He is what 5 foot 5 inches tall? :p
It is easy to put on muscle by a person of that height. :D
5 foot 5 inch ka macho hero salman khan, India ka icon! :o
So nachne walee auur lip synching actors whose business is to fake and lie with conviction are icons?
Filmo ne bedaa gark kar diya India ke naujawano ka..
asli duniya too salman kee koi auur he lagti hae.
pehle homeless wale ko maara, phir hirano ko maaara, aaab yeh tape.

[jakhar77]

I do agree with you Jitendra.
How can you say salman an Indian icon?
What he did for India and Indians?nothing.
Even he is misleadoing young generations by his deeds.
Usne shirt utarne,begharon ko marne,masoom janwaron ko marne aur ab underworld se sambandh rakhnae ke alawa kiya hi kya hai?Aur ab to underworld bhi kah raha hai ki wo Daood se milta tha(Chhota rajan).Police tapped his phone and noted that Abu salem used to call him.
Aur aap usko Indian icon kah rahe hain.
Mere khyal se uske baare me poori inquiry karke kadi saja di jani chahiye.
Phir aise dharma ke naam par bhedbhaw ki baat karke bharat ko badnaam karte hain.
Do you remember Nadeem,an accused of Gulshankumar mueder case.He said in UK that he doesn't trust Indian judiciary at all.
I am not against muslims but these kind of people are defaming India.
Hamare rajasthan me inke liye ek kahawat hai-"Khay khasam ka gawai beera ka".India me rahte hain par pahle musalman hain baad me Indian.
I am sorry if anyone offended.

Regards.

[poonam]

True, most of the people (at least the younger generation) consider him an icon and would wish that it is something that just dies it natural death... But then consider the flip side of the coin; If it is true and the guy has been falunting with danger all this time- then what is the verdict???

Even Sunjay Dutt was able to squeeze and scrap thru only by the space of his teeth when it came to all his gun possession charges etc. (and charges, that were later found untrue, of having a hand in the Bombay blasts etc.)...and that too after numerous court appearances and not having to be able to leave the country and all that.

The point I am trying to make is that these things are not ever taken lightly by the general public even when it involves a larger than life figure!

So, for argument sake if anything of this whole business with Salman Khan and his supposed nexus with the underworld comes out to be true; I personally hope that they do something that at least sends out a clear signal to everyone else that the very persons that are in the public eye and are the idols and the icons for the generation next, are NOT, and CANNOT really be some low life two timing triators!!!


Agree....if the nexus comes out to be true and he is found guilty then the judgement should be such that teaches a lesson to the others as well and that no anti national can escape no matter who he is. But the irony here is that in our country usually the higher strata figures escape out easily!!!!

[raj2rif]

The controversy is on and so is investigations. If the allegations are true, the guy should be metted with exemplary punishment. But then there may be so many in bollywood who may be involved. How about getting to the bottom of the problem. From where the money is coming to finance the exorbitant high cost of films and the price a producer has to pay to the actors and directors.

The question is whether Salman is an icon or not and what has he given to India. Purely, entertainment by his performances like any one else in the business, but to say he is an icon will be too much to give. One thing for sure, he did encouraged people to build body which is a good sign. Take only the good things from the people.

By the way, here are also investigations are on, and members have started passing judgement already. Do we have the same standards?????

[haryanajat]

5 foot 5 inch tall(short) hero salman khan - India 's icon.
when salman khan takes off his shirt?
Does he by chance think he is acting manly?

Then there is another hero - Govinda.
This guy is so short, first time I saw him I thought hey man, I was your height when I was in 6th class. And I still have my report card to prove it.

Bodybuilding?
Loogoon ke paas khana khaane ko paisa hae nahee aur bodybuilding karegeeen?

Great too woh loog haeeen jo samaj sewa kareen aur dindooora peet peet kaar uska gaaana na gayeeen.

eey naatak mandalli ke loog, icon naheen hoo saktee.

[singhkapoor]

Jeetendra,

I agree with you that social workers should be idolized more than film-stars but would not go to the extreme of saying that "ye naatak mandli ke log, icon nahin ho sakte" because like in any other organization, I am sure bollywood also has a bunch of nice people working in it. Everything is not black and white in real life. Film industry is associated with glitz, glamour, fame, and money and these are the tangibles that most teenagers dream of.

I don’t think many forty+ people would mention a film-star if you ask them to name their idol because our perception of life and idols changes as we grow older and become more mature. I admit to have idolized more than a few people over the last 20 years or so (mostly sports figures; none of them a film-star). In fact, most of the older people don’t even have an idol. Caveat: I do, and my idol is neither very tall nor associated with the glamorous field of sports/ films. In fact, he is the kind of human being I aspire to become, a self-less & quiet social worker with a big heart, a very successful businessman, and luckily (for me) a Jat.

I don’t think a person’s height is a factor in whether one is idolized or not. In fact, his social behavior, “Chosen Field” of endeavor, and “Height of Success” is:- How tall are Tendulkar, Gavaskar, Milkha Singh, or Dr. Manmohan Singh?

Some studies have proved that short people are short-changed when it comes to salary, status and respect. These studies say that tall people earn considerably more money throughout their lives. But, that’s for people working a regular 9 to 5 job; their destiny is in someone else’s hands (their employer, supervisor). Because such people are not entrepreneurs or risk-takers and do not do things that “superstars” do, they are considered as average Joes and are not idolized by the general public (they might be idolized by their own kids because the kids know their parents’ personality better than the general public does).

On the other hand, if one takes charge of one’s own destiny (no matter how tall one is) and decides to earn a living through doing something one really likes and is good at it (can’t discount the luck factor), there are good chances that s/he will become “Successful Enough” to be respected by people around him. But, success alone does not guarantee “Stardom” or status of an "Idol".

One of the requisites for a person to be respected is to be perceived as “Very Successful” in his/her chosen field. But for the same person to be idolized (esp. by the younger generation), his/her “chosen field” has to be glamorous.

I think that most, if not all, of these “temporary idols” (Salman type) have feet of clay and their popularity dies as more and more of their misdeeds are exposed. But, we can not deny the fact that these “icons” do influence the behavior of most youngsters in the country and therefore need to be punished so that his fans, most of whom are of very impressionable age, do not take anti-social activities as acceptable behavior by the society.

[haryanajat]

Salman Khan and other muslim actors have been mentioned in conversations of mumbai mafia lords. One tape that came out had the mumbai muslim dons talking about propping these khans by funding their movies. I have a very low opinion of Indian movies/stars. I have seen intelligent students lose their way in life, wasting time, watching this crap.
These hindi movies are just for entertainment and basically escapist crap with third rate acting. I prefer english/foreign language movies. After watching foreign language films one can see how third rate most of the hindi movies are. Everyone has their views.

[vivek]

If it were the Israelis, they would have taken Dawood out. Sometimes I wonder about our so called leaders, giving in to Kidnappers and terrorists demand...which encourages that path even more. There is a lack of 'courage or whatever you want to call it'. .

[jakhar77]

B'coz Israeles think about the nation not about religon and caste.
India me koi hinduwadi hai to koi muslim tushtikaran wala.koi dalit ka naam leta hai to koi pichhadon ka,Bharat ka naam lene wala koi nahi.
India ka furure usi time tay ho gaya tha jab common civil code ka mudda thande baste me daal diya gaya tha.
Yahan muslman apne kanoon chalate hai to hindu apne.
Yahi kaaran hai ki aaj Bharat ko in sabhi problems ka samna karna pad raha hai.
Phir bhi hum secular hain.Kashmir se saare kashmiri pandit maar dale gaye ya bhaga diye gaye ,phir bhi hum secular hain.Bengal aur asam me bangladesh se akar muslim bharate ja rahe hain ,phir bhi hum secular hain.
Jis bangaldesh ko hamne ajad karwaya wohi aaj hamen aankhen dikha raha hai phir bhi "Ahinsa parmo dharmah,"hum shanti ke pujari hain.
Hamare jawanon ko seemapar lejakar berahami se maar dalte hain par hum sakht virodh jatate hain wo bhi sirf janta ko bevkoof banane ke liye.

Ye hai India ki leadership aur aap Daood ko pakdane ki baat kar rahe ho.
Yahan ki police aur intelligence me koi cooperation nahi.Mumbai police delhi aakar RAW ka plan fail kar deti hai,Aap daood ko pakdenge.

[jagmohan]

Dear All,

The first question that comes to mind is "Kis kis ko ban karoge?". Nothing will happen to Salman Khan. The whole system is rotten.

While I was still in the Army and posted to Mumbai (Mar 1997 - May 2000), my appointment allowed me to get an insight into the dirt of Bollywood. Whenever a producer required any help from the Army for his film, the file was processed through me. Sometimes even when the producers went directly to Army HQ the file came to our HQ for comments etc. And let me admit that sometimes I did make some of the very big names wait outside my office!!!

More importantly my regiment was completing 50 years in 1998 and we were preparing to shoot a tele film that was supposed to be telecast on 15 Apr 1998. Therefore all this gave me a real insight into the lives of many 'so called icons'. There is a total involvement of the underworld in financing the films and even deciding as to who will cast whom. No questions asked.

One of my producer friend, friend because he was always very respectful and was doing everything for our telefilm free of cast, was threatened in front of me. We were having a very private party in Juhu in the Army Club on the terrace when he received a call from Dubai. He requested me to provide him a bodyguard, which I did. There was a retired Havaldar from the Parachute Regiment who became his body guard. But the poor 'Fauji' got so busy watching the damsels on the sets that he could not adjust to the job!!!

Anyway, what I am trying to say is that there is a very big nexus. And I truly believe that we should not let our daughters/sisters go anywhere near Bollywood. Haan, hatte katte JAT Chooron ki sakht jaroorat hain Bollywood mein.

To be frank I got so disillusioned with Bollywood that I am now in Mumbai since 2001 and have not once tried to meet or call up any of these fellows. Even though I have an open ended offer for a role in any one of the films produced by this friend of mine. The only Bollywood wallas I have met are Ashwini Chaoudhary and Harvinder Malik.

Regards,

JS Malik

[vinodks]

Es salman ko to murga bana ke ya gola-lathi laga ke dande marne chahiye..... aur Malikji bollywood ko aap jasse logo ki bahut jaroorat hai.... thoda bahut to sudhar aayega.... to ek-do damdar film banaiye jaldi se :-)
mein sochta hoon ye bombay police kuchh kyun nahi karti... lagta hai wahan jat bharti nahi hote eshliye...
bollywood ke saath saath bombay police ko bhi hathhe kathhe jaton ki jaroorat hai...

vinod

[jakhar77]

Truly said Vinod Bhai.
Jaaton ki har jagah jaroorat hai.

[ramksehrawat]

Es salman ko to murga bana ke ya gola-lathi laga ke dande marne chahiye..... aur Malikji bollywood ko aap jasse logo ki bahut jaroorat hai.... thoda bahut to sudhar aayega.... to ek-do damdar film banaiye jaldi se :-)
mein sochta hoon ye bombay police kuchh kyun nahi karti... lagta hai wahan jat bharti nahi hote eshliye...
bollywood ke saath saath bombay police ko bhi hathhe kathhe jaton ki jaroorat hai...

vinod

If Salman is found guilty he should not at all be spared and the severest possible punishment be metted out to him. However, in a country where CMs and Cabinet Ministers are hand in glove with mafias, Salman is a very small fry. Even those who would be passing the judgement are not a very clean lot. Jo bhi power mein baithe hain, woh mostly safed posh goonde hain jo din mein samaj sudhar aur desh bhakti ki batin karte hain aur nights mein ikatthe baith ke five star hotlon mein sharab piten hain.

[shailendra]

I was meaning to add something to this thread for some time...but unfortunately got some time today only to mention something related to this thread but which may not be so current news anymore;

It is the much talked about and discussed Underworld Don Dawood's daughter's wedding hohalla! Imagine a preson already declared as an international criminal (Interpol) and our own local Police doing everything they can to get him since the 1800's (yeah seems that long, doesn't it?), Pakistan denying that he even exists (Humaare paas??? Janaab kya keh rahe ho!?!); AND HERE HE IS carrying out his own Daughter's wedding with all pomp and glory and right infront of everyone!!! Imagine!!!...

On top of that they interview the ex-police commissioner of Mumbai, and the guy is cooly explaing,"uske din aa gaye hain, ab wo khuli kawaa main saana naihee le sakta! Both the underworld and the police are gunning for him! he days are numbered"...Someone please send the idiot an invitation card to the wedding, will ya!?!! (anyways, that was a joke there of course, but apparently it is my understanding from reading the reports that even Mumbai's tiger Bal thakre was sent an invitation!!! Hmmm...nice touch!)

I wonder if the answer would have been a well timed and carried out sting operation by security personell (our? yeah right!) there and sending the whole place up to kingdom come!!! The colateral damage aside (ah well...) at least the whole anti-national underworld big-wigs would have been wiped out in one go!

[raj2rif]

Dear Mr. Shailendra Hooda Ji,

Very well said. That would have been an excellent opportunity to get most of them at one time. But if the wedding took place in Saudi Arabia then, what about propogators and masters of war against terror? What about our diplomats who draw fatty paychecks? And what about our intelligence? All these departments have either failed in their duties or are not competent enough to discarge their duties and we can't afford any of these situations. We need to carry out an introspect and find out problems in our administration first. Unless we do that, these things will continue happening. Imagine even after more than 12 years we are still looking for that person.

[brad]

uski filum fir bhi hit kiyoon ho gayi?

cheers
Navin

[shailendra]

latest update on the whole controversy:
BBC News, 3rd August 2005:

Musharraf invite to Miandad party

Ex-Pakistan cricketer Javed Miandad has invited President Pervez Musharraf to a celebration of his son's controversial wedding to a fugitive's daughter.
Junaid Miandad married Mahrukh Ibrahim, daughter of Dawood Ibraham, a man the US suspects of al-Qaeda links, at a lavish ceremony in Dubai on 23 July.
Dawood Ibrahim is also wanted by India over a series of bombs that killed 300 people in Mumbai in 1993.
The post-wedding ceremony - or walima - is to be held in Karachi on Thursday.
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Pakistani Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz has been invited along with the president.
"I am hoping that they will attend the reception to give blessings to the newlywed couple," Miandad told the Jang newspaper.
He told the BBC that Indian press coverage had created negative propaganda, as a result of which many of his Indian friends had not attended the wedding in Dubai.
Miandad said the media would not be invited to the walima and there would be no filming or photography.
Miandad would not comment on whether Dawood Ibrahim would be at the walima.
Analysts say it is unlikely the president, who has been at the funeral of Saudi King Fahd, will attend.
Dawood Ibrahim was placed on a US Treasury watch list of wanted terrorists in 2003.
Mr Ibrahim has denied involvement in the Mumbai bombings and Pakistan denies that he is living in the country.
Reports indicated that Indian and US intelligence services were monitoring guests in Dubai in case Mr Ibrahim or some of his closest associates attended.
Javed Miandad, a legendary Pakistani batsman and coach, scored 8,832 runs in 124 Test matches.

[devdahiya]

latest update on the whole controversy:
BBC News, 3rd August 2005:

Musharraf invite to Miandad party

Ex-Pakistan cricketer Javed Miandad has invited President Pervez Musharraf to a celebration of his son's controversial wedding to a fugitive's daughter.
Junaid Miandad married Mahrukh Ibrahim, daughter of Dawood Ibraham, a man the US suspects of al-Qaeda links, at a lavish ceremony in Dubai on 23 July.
Dawood Ibrahim is also wanted by India over a series of bombs that killed 300 people in Mumbai in 1993.
The post-wedding ceremony - or walima - is to be held in Karachi on Thursday.
Watch list
Pakistani Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz has been invited along with the president.
"I am hoping that they will attend the reception to give blessings to the newlywed couple," Miandad told the Jang newspaper.
He told the BBC that Indian press coverage had created negative propaganda, as a result of which many of his Indian friends had not attended the wedding in Dubai.
Miandad said the media would not be invited to the walima and there would be no filming or photography.
Miandad would not comment on whether Dawood Ibrahim would be at the walima.
Analysts say it is unlikely the president, who has been at the funeral of Saudi King Fahd, will attend.
Dawood Ibrahim was placed on a US Treasury watch list of wanted terrorists in 2003.
Mr Ibrahim has denied involvement in the Mumbai bombings and Pakistan denies that he is living in the country.
Reports indicated that Indian and US intelligence services were monitoring guests in Dubai in case Mr Ibrahim or some of his closest associates attended.
Javed Miandad, a legendary Pakistani batsman and coach, scored 8,832 runs in 124 Test matches.



SHAILENDRA I LIKE YOUR SHARPNESS. I PRAY FOR YOUR GREAT FUTER DAER. LET GOD BE WITH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. DIL SE!

[shailendra]

SHAILENDRA I LIKE YOUR SHARPNESS. I PRAY FOR YOUR GREAT FUTER DAER. LET GOD BE WITH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. DIL SE!

Thanks Mr.Dahiya, appreciate your comments and good wishes for sure!!! :)