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ganeshjat
August 5th, 2005, 02:52 PM
A Letter to the British People from a daughter of Iraq
http://www.bangladesh-web.com/news/view.php?hidDate=2005-07-13&hidType=OPT&hidRecord=0000000000000000052154
Tuesday July 12 2005 15:58:59 PM BDT

I’m sending this letter to the British people and in particular to the residents of London. For a period of hours, you have lived through moments of desperate anxiety and horror. In those hours you lost a member of your family or a friend, and we wish to tell you in total honesty that we too grieve when human lives pass away. I cannot tell you how much we hurt when we see desperation and pain on the face of another person. For we have lived through this situation – and continue to live through it every day – since your country and the United States formed an alliance and laid plans to attack Iraq.

The Prime Minister of your country, Tony Blair, said that those who carried out the explosions did so in the name of Islam. The Secretary of State of the United States, Condaleezza Rice, described the bombings as an act of barbarism. The United Nations Security Council met and unanimously condemned the event.

I would like to ask you, the free British people, to allow me to inquire: in whose name was our country blockaded for 12 years? In whose name were our cities bombed using internationally prohibited weapons? In whose name did the British army kill Iraqis and torture them? Was that in your name? Or in the name of religion? Or humanity? Or freedom? Or democracy?

What do you call the killing of more than two million children? What do you call the pollution of the soil and the water with depleted uranium and other lethal substances?

What do you call what happened in the prisons in Iraq – in Abu Ghraib, Camp Bucca and the many other prison camps? What do you call the torture of men, women, and children? What do you call tying bombs to the bodies of prisoners and blowing them apart? What do you call the refinement of methods of torture for use on Iraqi prisoners – such as pulling off limbs, gouging out eyes, putting out cigarettes on their skin, and using cigarette lighters to set fire to the hair on their heads? Does the word “barbaric” adequately describe the behavior of your troops in Iraq?

May we ask why the Security Council did not condemn the massacre in al-Amiriyah and what happened in al-Fallujah, Tal‘afar, Sadr City, and an-Najaf? Why does the world watch as our people are killed and tortured and not condemn the crimes being committed against us? Are you human beings and we something less? Do you think that only you can feel pain and we can’t? In fact it is we who are most aware of how intense is the pain of the mother who has lost her child, or the father who has lost his family. We know very well how painful it is to lose those you love.

You don’t know our martyrs, but we know them. You don’t remember them, but we remember them. You don’t cry over them, but we cry over them.

Have you heard the name of the little girl Hannan Salih Matrud? Or of the boy Ahmad Jabir Karim? Or Sa‘id Shabram?

Yes, our dead have names too. They have faces and stories and memories. There was a time when they were among us, laughing and playing. They had dreams, just as you have. They had a tomorrow awaiting them. But today they sleep among us with no tomorrow on which to wake.

We don’t hate the British people or the peoples of the world. This war was imposed upon us, but we are now fighting it in defense of our selves. Because we want to live in our homeland – the free land of Iraq – and to live as we want to live, not as your government or the American government wish.

Let the families of those killed know that responsibility for the Thursday morning London bombings lies with Tony Blair and his policies.

Stop your war against our people!

Stop the daily killing that your troops commit!

End your occupation of our homeland!

dahiyars
August 5th, 2005, 05:29 PM
Dear Ganesh

I have gone through the letter and agree 100% with the content of the letter. America has no answer. About the Britishers we have our own experience of slavery for years. I thank you for posting this thread.

Dr.R.S.Dahiya

raj2rif
August 5th, 2005, 06:12 PM
While what has been written in this letter is true, but it looks to me the propoganda by the Islamic Terrorist organizations. We are not in occupation of any Pakistani territory, yet, the so called fighters are coming from all over the Islamic world to take part in Zehad as called by militant groups. Similarly there was no occupation of any one while Taliban was ruling Afghanistan? We have all seen it how they treated human life. There are helpless people in countries like Afghanistan under Taliban or Iraq under Saddam. While the US motive could be any thing, loss of Saddam's rule in Iraq certainly has not been a bad thing. So is the case of Taliban.

The terrorist organizations will continue to target the normal population with all the means that they have to prove their cause and means to achieve that. A declared war is much better than a proxy war, because atleast one knows who the enemy is. What had Kuwait done to Iraq when they invaded them. Did this Daughter of Iraq existed then? and if she did what letter had she written to the rular of Iraq. Why did not the entire Islamic world fought against Iraq at that time or for that matter did not take the lead?

While I am against any occupation of any country or the war itself, we need to curb the Islamic fundamentalism or any other religious fundamentalism in all its forms and manifestations. Islamic fundamentalism becomes more important as it controls most of world's energy resources. The world would be dictated by these fundamentalists if we don't take control of the situation now. With the kind of money they can generate by using oil as a weapon, they would be having all the weapons in the world and use them ruthlessly, against any one who is not following the Shariat Law. Would you like that kind of situation for your future generations?

It is so unfortunate that the so called daughter is living in the area where the action is taking place. It is the battlefield area that gets the brunt of the business of war. It was Europe during the two wars while it happen to be Iraq this time. We had seen destruction in Punjab during the war with Pakistan while nothing happened in Tamilnadu or any Southern States. Read the history, it is the Islamic rulers who have invaded most of the countries in the past, be it Changez Khan or Md. Ghouri or Mehmood Gaznavi, or for that matter Babar. The Christians on the other hand mostly came as traders and took control of the economy and then the nations.

A great debate can go on the subject. While I am against the killings of the inncent people be it in Iraq or any where else, but they themselves are to be blamed to some extent for the situation that they are in. They did not have the strength to fight against the rulers like Saddam for almost a quarter of the century. So many people were killed in Iraq by his administration and went unreported. I am pretty sure they also had faces, names and loved ones too.

rkumar
August 5th, 2005, 09:47 PM
While what has been written in this letter is true, but it looks to me the propoganda by the Islamic Terrorist organizations. ........

I fully agree with you Tavathia Sahab. This has come up on some Bnagladesh website. Bangladesh is emerging another hot bed of terrorism. Industry of terrorism is being operated by some of the best and notorious brains in the world.

RK^2

gaganjat
August 6th, 2005, 11:34 AM
Jiski lathi uski bhains. No complains.

dahiyarules
August 6th, 2005, 12:01 PM
There go the hawks.
Quotes Please:

" loss of Saddam's rule in Iraq certainly has not been a bad thing. So is the case of Taliban."

" I fully agree with you Tavathia Sahab. This has come up on some Bnagladesh website. Bangladesh is emerging another hot bed of terrorism. Industry of terrorism is being operated by some of the best and notorious brains in the world. "

I Dont want to have an opinion about the war. Becuase no matter what side I take, one fo you guys gonna bludgeon me. The war is personal to me as my brother who serves in the US Navy (attached with the marines occassionally) has done his tours of duty, makes me nervous, everytime I get a call from an "unknown number" or an unrecognized number on the screen.

You guys can do all the talk. I have a lot of friends who have or would be serving in the hell hole called Iraq, completely disagree with all of you, becuase they have seen the war in the face. Television camers are allowed only on preorchstrated missions, so tha fox news can make their 8 o clock report look better. Others who verbally support the war, confuse their intentions with patriotism.

Saddams iraq was starved an strangled by 12 years of UN sponsored harshness. Whatever the case, nations must learn to stay out of other nations' business. So Saddam was as wrong in invading Kuwait, as the US was in invading Iraq.

All th reasons given for the war have been proven false. So I want ya'll hawks to stop beating the drums of war over and again. Ya'll got us into this mess, now please dont push us deeper into it. Stop being stubborn, and accept that you were wrong the very first time.

As for bangladeshis, again its a mess created by India itself. They have forgotten their massacre, and itsben overshadowed by a feeling that india did it to break the Islamic society of Pakistan, and weaken it in the knees.

This is not propoganda. When your UPS guy who was enlisted with the reserves, doesnt show up after his tour of duty, you know tha the reality just struck you. Ask all those who have lost their loved ones in the war. Its not propoganda for them. Let the war see the conclusion, and let the kids come back home, so that they cn do something better wiht their lives, with al their limbs intact.

raj2rif
August 7th, 2005, 09:16 PM
There go the hawks.
Quotes Please:

" loss of Saddam's rule in Iraq certainly has not been a bad thing. So is the case of Taliban."

" I fully agree with you Tavathia Sahab. This has come up on some Bnagladesh website. Bangladesh is emerging another hot bed of terrorism. Industry of terrorism is being operated by some of the best and notorious brains in the world. "

I Dont want to have an opinion about the war. Becuase no matter what side I take, one fo you guys gonna bludgeon me. The war is personal to me as my brother who serves in the US Navy (attached with the marines occassionally) has done his tours of duty, makes me nervous, everytime I get a call from an "unknown number" or an unrecognized number on the screen.

You guys can do all the talk. I have a lot of friends who have or would be serving in the hell hole called Iraq, completely disagree with all of you, becuase they have seen the war in the face. Television camers are allowed only on preorchstrated missions, so tha fox news can make their 8 o clock report look better. Others who verbally support the war, confuse their intentions with patriotism.

Saddams iraq was starved an strangled by 12 years of UN sponsored harshness. Whatever the case, nations must learn to stay out of other nations' business. So Saddam was as wrong in invading Kuwait, as the US was in invading Iraq.

All th reasons given for the war have been proven false. So I want ya'll hawks to stop beating the drums of war over and again. Ya'll got us into this mess, now please dont push us deeper into it. Stop being stubborn, and accept that you were wrong the very first time.

As for bangladeshis, again its a mess created by India itself. They have forgotten their massacre, and itsben overshadowed by a feeling that india did it to break the Islamic society of Pakistan, and weaken it in the knees.

This is not propoganda. When your UPS guy who was enlisted with the reserves, doesnt show up after his tour of duty, you know tha the reality just struck you. Ask all those who have lost their loved ones in the war. Its not propoganda for them. Let the war see the conclusion, and let the kids come back home, so that they cn do something better wiht their lives, with al their limbs intact.

Dear Mr. Dahiya,

We are neither the hawks nor the war mongers. The question here was of a letter written by some one to draw attention to the attrocities in Iraq as a normal Iraqi citizen sees it. We are discussing the validity of this letter. In my post I have started with the premise that "While it may be true". I had tried to project the other side of the coin and that is the purpose of any discussion for that matter. We discuss the multiple views on the subject.

What you have talked about in your post is pretty emotional for a person who probably has not seen the war in first person. Yes we all love our near and dear one. We all get used to seeing the people we see every day. Why talk about the UPS guy not showing up, we miss him even if he goes for vacation. Yesterday, I saw the DHL lady delievring the mail in my office after one full year, because she was assigned the different route.

I have gone through the pain of seeing my fellow soldiers killed in action against terrorists. Imagine you are commanding a company and your troops have not eaten the food because they are mourning the death of their fellow soldier. Let me tell you the bonds in an Infantry Unit are too strong and some times stronger than the personal relationships.

There is a design on which the terrorists work to justify their cause and they need help from people who get emotional to their cause. While I am not the supporter of the Iraq war the way it had been planned and conducted, I have no love lost for a dectator who killed his own men at will. Yes nations should keep away from the affairs of other nations, but when your own security is threatened it is better to get rid of the evil where ever it may be rather than living in the comfort of your house and hoping that a good sense will prevail in those who have no value for human life. These people can motivate their own kids to blow them off, in the name of religion. What do you expect them to do with the life of other people whom in any case they call "Kafir".

We should try and make this world more safer place to live for our future generations. Terrorism has to be curbed, stopped and eliminated ASAP. What we need to discuss is how? and not why? World is definitely a better place without Saddam and Taliban for sure.

Edger O'Balance has written many books on how terrorist attack the bystanders and TV viewers. May be that would help people who don't understand the modus operandi of these organizations. Press, had been the major defaulter in covering the terror events. Most of the press, and electronic media is working in the name of journalism in exact manner the terrorist organization wants them to work.