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mukeshkumar007
August 18th, 2005, 12:15 PM
Dear All,


http://www.ndtv.com/topstories/showtopstory.asp?slug=Fatwa+seeks+to+keep+women+ou t+of+politics&id=17566

What a foolish decision. I don't think that muslim really need for these type of nonsense organisation today. Looks like that these dharma thekedar want to force the muslim to live in eighteenth century. Government must need to make some arrangements to strict these organisation not to pass any type of fatwa and regulation which effect the democratic right of people.

itsnavin
August 18th, 2005, 03:52 PM
Dear All,


http://www.ndtv.com/topstories/showtopstory.asp?slug=Fatwa+seeks+to+keep+women+ou t+of+politics&id=17566

What a foolish decision. I don't think that muslim really need for these type of nonsense organisation today. Looks like that these dharma thekedar want to force the muslim to live in eighteenth century. Government must need to make some arrangements to strict these organisation not to pass any type of fatwa and regulation which effect the democratic right of people.

Here is the reason why we need a Uniform Civil Code.
Moreover, we Jats are no exceptions. We've Sarvkhap panchayats who also deliver these kind of judgements in villages. This issue has been raised many times on Jatland.

Navin

raj2rif
August 18th, 2005, 04:53 PM
Dear All,


http://www.ndtv.com/topstories/showtopstory.asp?slug=Fatwa+seeks+to+keep+women+ou t+of+politics&id=17566

What a foolish decision. I don't think that muslim really need for these type of nonsense organisation today. Looks like that these dharma thekedar want to force the muslim to live in eighteenth century. Government must need to make some arrangements to strict these organisation not to pass any type of fatwa and regulation which effect the democratic right of people.

Dear Mukesh,

Thanks for bringing out a very pertinent topic for discussion. I have travelled through Devband, and it is scary to say the least. The Islamic Institutions there needs to be abolished, as we don't need these Madarsas in our country. These institutions have prospered under the blessings of the politicians like Mr. Mulayam Singh Yadav. It is time that the country's youth takes the lead and condemns the actions of these institutions wherever they are. The government needs to take a firm stand and tell the organizers and controllers of these institutions that "No Nonesense" would be accepted. We can't have Shariat Law in any part of our country. I hope the political leaders understand the gravity of situation.

mukeshkumar007
August 18th, 2005, 05:14 PM
We can't have Shariat Law in any part of our country. I hope the political leaders understand the gravity of situation.

Jab yeh hi Deoband wale Imrana case maie ek taraf to kehte hai ki India maie Shariat law lagu nahi ho sakta because India is not a muslim country and in other side they ordered their unacceptable decision that She can not live with his husband. It is their double standard. This is why these organisation must be banned at any cost.

But question arised that who do it? If we talk about politician then I am not sure they will do anything like this. These politicians may be agreed and unite when the issue related with their own interests otherwise they will keep playing politics with every issue weather it is in national favour or not. Sometimes I feel that it would be better if we have a military rule instead of democracy, Kam se Kam aise logo se to chutkara milta........

punia
August 19th, 2005, 03:20 AM
Well Sir it a big problem India is having due to Mulayam Singh and other Political Leaders due to Votebank or Hunger to rule or to remain in politics and for that they even sell there mother ( sorry to say that ). when ever Iam at Paharganj, Dehli there I see only Bangladesi and Pakis roaming around and saying jai pakistan or similar things. Till we stop these things some day we will be outnummerd from muslims ( pro Pakistan ) and then it will be very late. First thing is to stop Madarsa's or so called religion schools. ( Islamic Institutions )

raj2rif
August 19th, 2005, 06:01 PM
But question arised that who do it? If we talk about politician then I am not sure they will do anything like this. These politicians may be agreed and unite when the issue related with their own interests otherwise they will keep playing politics with every issue weather it is in national favour or not. Sometimes I feel that it would be better if we have a military rule instead of democracy, Kam se Kam aise logo se to chutkara milta........[/QUOTE]

Dear Mukesh,

The Public is the only one that can do it. We need to organize them as Indians and not as Hindus as the VHP and other organizations had tried to do. In a democracy of our nature, Hinduism would not go as well as the Indianism would go. The public has to be made aware of what is going on wrong and what their powers could be to prevent it. Not a mean task but nevertheless attainable. May take time but would bring more stable results. I personally feel that religion should be confined to our houses only. What you do in your house is a private matter, what you do out side your house is a social and national matter and that has to be treated as such.

gaganrana
August 19th, 2005, 10:19 PM
---India the Great Country or (......)
Democratic policies, votes kee Rajneetee.... no political party want to touch this issue as it can effect their votes bank...(our minority)....

Mulayam Singh Yadav.....(The CM of UP, feesadee State in india)...
Jis state ka leader hee Sabse bada gunda ho...wo...state kya kar saktee hai.... koi kuch bhee bolta.... Fatwa jaaree kar daetaa hai... (horrible)...

Muslims are making a vitual country within a coutry....(which is REALLY bad)..

So Supreme court has to take this matter in his hand... it has recently ordered a Jaanch in this matter...

OTHERWISE.... 1947/1984 JAISE hadse door nahin hai...

JAI BHARAT....!

jagmohan
August 20th, 2005, 02:19 PM
Who is that WHO who will take action action these fundamentalists? Unfortunately, NO ONE. They are the vote banks of political parties. No point repeating what is common knowledge. The theory of Daarul Islam, Daarul Harb and Daarul Aman is what I am refering to.

Let us look at the whole thing a bit differently. The countries where there is such extremity and societies that are governed by 'Fatwas' would never progress. Women are suppressed and remain downtrodden. The longer the Mullahs beard, longer is a women's skirt, is a fact. I believe it is the women in these societies who would revolt one day and end the rule of fundamentalists. It is a matter of time.

Deoband seminaries trained the Taliban. The worst terrorists are churned out from Deoband. Actually we should have been declared a terrorist state long time back for allowing such institutions to thrive in our country.

But like I said who is that WHO?

mukeshkumar007
August 22nd, 2005, 10:48 AM
The Public is the only one that can do it. We need to organize them as Indians and not as Hindus as the VHP and other organizations had tried to do. In a democracy of our nature, Hinduism would not go as well as the Indianism would go. The public has to be made aware of what is going on wrong and what their powers could be to prevent it. Not a mean task but nevertheless attainable. May take time but would bring more stable results.

Respected Uncleji,
But how can we stop a big part of active public, which is already educated and misguiding to the rest of public to drag them on wrong path just to fulfill their selfish motive. This lobby has a major influence on the public and have fully protected by the government machinery.


I personally feel that religion should be confined to our houses only. What you do in your house is a private matter, what you do out side your house is a social and national matter and that has to be treated as such.

Well said.

raj2rif
August 22nd, 2005, 05:55 PM
Respected Uncleji,
But how can we stop a big part of active public, which is already educated and misguiding to the rest of public to drag them on wrong path just to fulfill their selfish motive. This lobby has a major influence on the public and have fully protected by the government machinery.



Well said.

"EDUCATE THEM"

rkumar
August 25th, 2005, 10:24 PM
High time India tells all these clerics that there is only one law of the land and they have to follow it. SC has already taken up the case. May be India takes a note of what Australians have decided to do;

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_25-8-2005_pg1_2

RK^2