National Rural Convention, Rohtak october 2006

[positivelook]

Hello All memebers

As u all know that we are moving towards a Natianl jat meet which will be held at Rohtak in the october 2006. As we have not finalize the date but we need more and more participationj from all the Jats people who really concerne about the problems of our people in the remote areas of India.
So lets give it a go and try our best to make this event a big occasion and totally professional. So please all memebers come up with their plans and please advice or contribute in this meet.
Only serious suggestions are welcome cos jokes u can discuss in humour section.
So lets go for it guys and gals!

Abhimanyu Phougat

[rkumar]

I will be there for sure..with full force.....

Rajendra

[jagmohan]

If all goes well and one is lucky to escape the calamities, natural and man made, I would be there with my Paro.

But a lot of work needs to be done before that. I am sure important issues like u/m would be addressed:

(a) No of Days the Convention needs to be held?
(b) Selcetion of important issues that need to be addressed? Incresing Urbanisation around Delhi affecting our main source of livelihood, namely agriculture; Need for an Umbrella Organisation at National Level to address issue of JATS; Enhancing education & health facilities at Village levels etc
(c) Manner in which we interact. Remember some of us would be meeting for the first time and some time would be required for knowing and meeting each other.
(d) Forming of committees to prepare groundwork for issues to be discussed. For eg: I f Dowry is to be discussed then a team be formed to go into all aspects, statistics (No of Dowry Death, Court Cases, Remedial Measures, Draft Undertaking etc) and peper work.
(e) Follow up responsibilities. As important as having the convention.
(f) Ensuring it does not become a 'One-up-manship contest.
(g) A serious thought to be given to the issue of persons who need to be invited or not invited.
(h) Since there would be a lot of expenditure involved, even if the venue is free, we should all contribute towards the same.

I am sure there are many more issues that learned members would address.

Regards,

JS Malik

[spdeshwal]

I support the proposed "National Rural Convention Rohtak, Oct.2006", with my heart.

Col. Sahab, I have a feeling that although the costs may not be substantial in organiing the convention at Tylyar but can,t be entirely free as its a Govt. run tourist complex.

Secondly as I have mentioned on the other thread, the convention hall at Tylyar may not be big enough to accomodate participants from all the Jat regions and NRIs. My suggestion is that we should an alternative to Tylyar in case we need a bigger place.

The altenative for this can,t be a better place than Jat Heros Memorial College Rohtak.

Accomodation to our female participants can be arranged in the Girls hostel at Maharani Kisori Devi College.

These are mere suggestins, otherwise whatever the proposed committee decides would have my full support .

[mukeshkumar007]

I will be there with full support.

Dear Abhi. Please have a look on Deshwal uncle's suggestion about the venu for the Rural Youth convention, Rohtak 2006 and let us know what u think?. I think we should consider every point in this matter.

I am requesting to all members of this site to provide their valuable suggestions and confirm their participation by replying this thread.

[radhikachhillar]

it wl b my plsr in cs i cn do anythng in any cpcty.

[priti]

Mukesh, I dont know if the date is final or not, just a humble suggestion- if the convention can be held in december...i think you might have more participation from people residing outside because usually their yearly travels to india are in december since its holiday time due to christmas and stuff......

[rkumar]

Mukesh, I dont know if the date is final or not, just a humble suggestion- if the convention can be held in december...i think you might have more participation from people residing outside because usually their yearly travels to india are in december since its holiday time due to christmas and stuff......

Providing accommodation and warm water in winter will be a big problem for so many people. I think October is the only month which is most suitable from every possible angle. Rest I would leave it to the organisers.

RK^2

[priti]

hmmm....didn't think of that...

[mukeshkumar007]

hmmm....didn't think of that...
Now Priti, I think you have got that why oct. is the best time. by the way thanks for providing suggestion from ur side.
keep it up.

[raj2rif]

Hello All memebers

As u all know that we are moving towards a Natianl jat meet which will be held at Rohtak in the october 2006. As we have not finalize the date but we need more and more participationj from all the Jats people who really concerne about the problems of our people in the remote areas of India.
So lets give it a go and try our best to make this event a big occasion and totally professional. So please all memebers come up with their plans and please advice or contribute in this meet.
Only serious suggestions are welcome cos jokes u can discuss in humour section.
So lets go for it guys and gals!

Abhimanyu Phougat

Dear Abhimanyu,
Thanks for starting this thread. I think we are on track so far.
I am working on an execution plan and would post it ASAP. The plan is basically divided into following sub heads

1 Core group (who all to be in core group and what their duties and responsibilities would be)
2. Executive group ( who would be there and what they would do? Duties and responsibilities as well as their right in making decisions)
3. Proposal to fund the event
4. Transportaion, logding, and food for the participants and as well as dispersal.
5. Security issues to include law and order and preventing our detractors to join us.
6. Subjects to be discussed: they have already been short listed, we only have to see the time available and accord priority and timing for each subject
7 Finances is an important issue: Would require a detailed estimate of expenditure, and funding it. This would mean we need to have a bank account where contributors can send the money. Receipts printed, and most important is a treasurer who would maintain the account. The tax consequences of such an account would be another aspect. We also need an attorny on the panel who would take the responsibility of any legal issue that comes up.
8. Implementing commitee, time schedule, resources they would get and what they have to generate themselves and suggested methoeds of doing that.
9. Participation by the members: number of people to be invited, and number of people those who would be addressing various subjects.
10. Members registration and maintaining a data base for the members for the future communications.
11. Rules of the organization that we form, its objectives and guiding rules. (I guess this can best be done by the core group)
12. Finally when we realize this organization, then how will it function it smoothly: so the by laws of the organization.

Some suggestion: Inviting the CM of Haryana would have negative of it being considered by his opposition members as the show of strenght for himself and thus many be counter productive for him as well as the organization. However by inviting him we could get considerable help in organizing it, by means of accomodation, traffic control and help in law and order? Open to discussion. But if we decide to invite, would it be right for him to address the convention or we just call him for ceremonious purposes? This is the issue, I guess our core group would have to decide. The executive group working on ground should give their recommendations.

Sorry, really busy at this time and would join you all some time later in the day.

[jakhar77]

Count me in friends.
I will be there if everything goes well.(means 99%)

Lets' make it happen.

As venue is almost set and the topics are being choosen so one big thing remaining is funds for the meet,estimate of expenditure and the source of the funds.As other respected members stated that this should be a beginning and we must have a plan to be implemented in a given time.Please make an action plan for 5-10-15 years and get the local people to work on ground levels.
I will join you in a short time.

Regards.

[dreamz0802]

THANX Rajendra uncle ji, Col. uncle and Lt. Col. Jagmohan uncle ji

now I am sure that we got enough commanders(still short of ammunition) to plan this war against all the enemies and probs which resists the development of our rural population.
N even thanx and I especially appriciate that galz are also contributing in this big step with us. thanx galz and keep it up

CHEERS
KADAM se KADAM miley ja, we`ll definitly reach the success.

I will be there for sure..with full force.....

Rajendra

[punia]

;) please count me also as Iam already planning to visit India in Sep/ Okt. and any help Iam there.

[positivelook]

Hello all memebers

First of all answer to the question raise by Mr. Deshwal abt the venue: Dear sir as i have studied in Jat college and i know abt the jat college auditorium very well where most of the seats are not in the position to accomodate anyone and as far as i m concerned the hall is quite old. Now abt tilyar is tht first thing its a govt. place so we get some cost effetcive things. Next, thing is as most of the people working their are known to me and very helpful also which will definitely ease our pressure cos they are very supportive. Most people working their are also JATS. I accept the hall at tilyar tourist complex is not big enough, it can only hold around 500 people but if u dont know construction is going on at tilyar for a big hall which can accomodate 1000 people or more than tht, completion is due in next year for this. Or if we will be having a big strength than we have to go for Shamiana so first we are trying to figure out the strenth of our meet. One more thing is the lush green environment at tilyar which will definitely attract more and more people and we will get the media coverage.
I think i made myself very clear abt the venue to all of u. So i dont think there will be any doubt abt this.

Abhimanyu Phougat

[positivelook]

hi all
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Mow the next point comes for this meet is as indicated by Col. Tavathia we need a seperate account in the bank in which all the members will send money. As i think we dont need money i think up to september 2006 but we have to start collecting from now so tht we will have enough money up to the end> And after having a look on the finances we can give a better shape to our meet (i mean to say how grand it will be). As all members are intersted in making this venue a memorable one so we have to contribute from the front. Especially i am hoping a good contribution from NRI jats in this. Well if the things will go like this than the meet will be definitely a grand occasion for all jats. Now who will manage the finance this is a big question so now i would like to request the big commanders to have a look at this matter and appoint 2-3 people who are presently in India to open a account and than lets see how much funds we can get up to the August end or september 2006. But i think first of all lets have a rough idea abt the strength so tht i will give u all a brief idea abt the amount we need fro the Convention.
Well above mentioned are only suggestions more suggestions are welcome on this point cos we have enough time and i think we will finalise all things and date atleast up to october 2005(one year prior).

Abhimanyu Phougat

[positivelook]

Hello All NRI bhai , Bhabi, Behans, Chacha, Tau and all

This is a appeal to all of u tht those who are planning their visits to india anytime in next year please consider this event and try to make arrangements to attend this. If ur planning ur visit 2-3 months before october 2006 than please try to delay it for octber 2006 and if ur planning in november-december 2006 than try to make it one month prior in oct. 2006.
So please try to do it so tht we get more participation from NRI jats.

Tune Chaha hee nahi warna haalat badal sakta tha,
Aankh Behti toh aansoo Nikal sakta tha,
Tu tehra hi raha Jheel ki tarah,
Dariya Banta toh door nikal sakta tha.

So please give it a go and lets see how far we can go. Try to reach the sky thts the way for a JAT.

Abhimanyu Phougat

[spdeshwal]

Thanks Abhimanu for letting me know about the conditions of Auditorium at Jat college! It is aslo nice to know that Tylyar is coming up with a new and bigger hall. I have not been there for 4 years.

My suggestion about having the Meet at Jat college was just an alternative. Also thought that it is own Institution and the management could come to our help if needed.

Anyways, my best wishes are with you guys. I may not be there personally as I have some other commitments around that time but I assure u all off my whole hearted support.

[mukeshkumar007]

Tune Chaha hee nahi warna haalat badal sakta tha,
Aankh Behti toh aansoo Nikal sakta tha,
Tu tehra hi raha Jheel ki tarah,
Dariya Banta toh door nikal sakta tha.


Abhimanyu Phougat

Kya baat kehi hai Abhi yaar. I have got some pm message from many NRI and they told me that they are unable to visit India in Oct. 2006.
Are bhai logo kosis karne par kya nahi ho sakta, karke deko, lakin abhi se kyo man bana liya ki aap oct. maie nahi aa sakte..........

[rkumar]

hi all
'
Mow the next point comes for this meet is as indicated by Col. Tavathia we need a seperate account in the bank in which all the members will send money. As i think we dont need money i think up to september 2006 but we have to start collecting from now so tht we will have enough money up to the end> And after having a look on the finances we can give a better shape to our meet (i mean to say how grand it will be). As all members are intersted in making this venue a memorable one so we have to contribute from the front. Especially i am hoping a good contribution from NRI jats in this. Well if the things will go like this than the meet will be definitely a grand occasion for all jats. Now who will manage the finance this is a big question so now i would like to request the big commanders to have a look at this matter and appoint 2-3 people who are presently in India to open a account and than lets see how much funds we can get up to the August end or september 2006. But i think first of all lets have a rough idea abt the strength so tht i will give u all a brief idea abt the amount we need fro the Convention.
Well above mentioned are only suggestions more suggestions are welcome on this point cos we have enough time and i think we will finalise all things and date atleast up to october 2005(one year prior).

Abhimanyu Phougat

Hi Abhi,

Best would be that you make a very realistic budget. A fiigure of 500 delegates should be the target.

Rajendra

[dreamz0802]

Rajendra uncle ji,

We are happy to make realistic budget but before doing that we need the realistic events which we and you had in your mind.
1) I mean no. of days for the meet,
2)arrangements for how many peoples,
3)would their be any refreshment or dinner and if there is any then for how many peoples should it be

I request all of the jatland members to give their ideas.

CHEERS

Hi Abhi,

Best would be that you make a very realistic budget. A fiigure of 500 delegates should be the target.

Rajendra

[rkumar]

Rajendra uncle ji,

We are happy to make realistic budget but before doing that we need the realistic events which we and you had in your mind.
1) I mean no. of days for the meet,
2)arrangements for how many peoples,
3)would their be any refreshment or dinner and if there is any then for how many peoples should it be

I request all of the jatland members to give their ideas.

CHEERS

Two days event should be enough. Let us assume we organise it on a Saturday and Sunday;

Day one

1. Inaugration 9 am
2. 10.30 High tea
3. 11 AM - 1 PM lectures (30 min each)
4. 1- 2 PM Lunch
5. 2-3.30 Lectures
6. 3.30-4 PM Tea
7. 4-5.30 PM Lectures
8. 7-10 PM cultural show and Dinner

Day Two

9.00- 10.30 am lectures
10.30-11 am tea
11am - 1 PM lectures
1-2 PM Lunch

2-3.30 lectures

3.30 PM Closing cermony

From above you can make out as to how many speakers you can adjust. One appraoch can be that you approach corporate sector to finance the entire event. This is what I did . The organisations one can approach are;

1. Tata Solar Power
2. Khadi and Gram Udyog
3. Rural Development Ministry, Government of India
4. National Dairy Development Corporation
5. Agriculture Ministry, Government of India

Not all the delegates are going to make payment, as far as I can see. You should be lucky if you get total of 20-30 NRI. In my view the delegate fee structure can be as follows;

1. NRI... US$ 200.00
2. RI Rs. 500.00

Please don't depend too heavily on individual contributions and NRIs..In my view the weakest link would be NRIs ( Hope I am proved wrong). Try to approach major contributors as far as possible. Your aim should be to collect about Rs. 5.0 lacs or so..

Rajendra

[ratananmol]

Dear Rajinder ji:
I may not be able to ensure my personal participation but i think it would help if we accept contributions of any denomination from even non participating members like myself. Also it would not be a bad idea to outline the desired outcomes? What will be addressed and what are the actions that can take place. In your previous posts you have said that despite our political affiliations we should be united: i agree but does that means a policy of exclusion of people from the political spectrum or open invitation to anyone who desires to attend. I mean history stands witness to the fact that jats have failed to reach consensus throughout which still plagues the existing jat organisations and has created mere confusion in the minds of dedicated ranks. It would be a good idea to have 1-2 day open house discussion chaired by a core group (rather than a single individual) which shall retain control and direction of future efforts. I think senior ppl like yourself, Arya ji, Col.Tevathia, Prof. Singh and others who have shown commitment to serve the interests of the community deserve to lead us before the instituiton gets strenghtened further.
What are your views?
With best wishes.
Anmol.

[rkumar]

Dear Rajinder ji:
I may not be able to ensure my personal participation but i think it would help if we accept contributions of any denomination from even non participating members like myself. Also it would not be a bad idea to outline the desired outcomes? What will be addressed and what are the actions that can take place. In your previous posts you have said that despite our political affiliations we should be united: i agree but does that means a policy of exclusion of people from the political spectrum or open invitation to anyone who desires to attend. I mean history stands witness to the fact that jats have failed to reach consensus throughout which still plagues the existing jat organisations and has created mere confusion in the minds of dedicated ranks. It would be a good idea to have 1-2 day open house discussion chaired by a core group (rather than a single individual) which shall retain control and direction of future efforts. I think senior ppl like yourself, Arya ji, Col.Tevathia, Prof. Singh and others who have shown commitment to serve the interests of the community deserve to lead us before the instituiton gets strenghtened further.
What are your views?
With best wishes.
Anmol.

Hi Ratan,

I think all options are open. Personally I am not in favour of excluding anyone, political or otherwise till he she talks of contributing towards community. Political speeches should not be allowed. Purely open house also may not work as that might become nothing more than a Jatland thread and we know what the outcome would be. In my view there should be prepared presentations followed by some question answers. Open ended talks will not lead us any where. Let us see how other members feel about it. Regarding financial contributions, anything from anyone will be most welcome.

Rajendra

[sanjubalyan]

I will be there with full support.

sandeep balyan

[mukeshkumar007]

Two days event should be enough. Let us assume we organise it on a Saturday and Sunday;

Day one

1. Inaugration 9 am
2. 10.30 High tea
3. 11 AM - 1 PM lectures (30 min each)
4. 1- 2 PM Lunch
5. 2-3.30 Lectures
6. 3.30-4 PM Tea
7. 4-5.30 PM Lectures
8. 7-10 PM cultural show and Dinner

Day Two

9.00- 10.30 am lectures
10.30-11 am tea
11am - 1 PM lectures
1-2 PM Lunch

2-3.30 lectures

3.30 PM Closing cermony

From above you can make out as to how many speakers you can adjust. One appraoch can be that you approach corporate sector to finance the entire event. This is what I did . The organisations one can approach are;

1. Tata Solar Power
2. Khadi and Gram Udyog
3. Rural Development Ministry, Government of India
4. National Dairy Development Corporation
5. Agriculture Ministry, Government of India

Not all the delegates are going to make payment, as far as I can see. You should be lucky if you get total of 20-30 NRI. In my view the delegate fee structure can be as follows;

1. NRI... US$ 200.00
2. RI Rs. 500.00

Please don't depend too heavily on individual contributions and NRIs..In my view the weakest link would be NRIs ( Hope I am proved wrong). Try to approach major contributors as far as possible. Your aim should be to collect about Rs. 5.0 lacs or so..

Rajendra

It would be really good schedule....... By the way can we organise a sport event at the end day of our meet.

[itsnavin]

I am not sure that I'd be able to make it. It's very difficult to get vacations here in Oct. Dec. would have suited me but as other members pointed out that Oct. will be the best time to organise such an event. Anyway, I am very positive about and our team of organisers will make it a big success.

My all external support(in every form) will be there with the team. Very political answer! but it's serious!

[poonam]

Kya baat kehi hai Abhi yaar. I have got some pm message from many NRI and they told me that they are unable to visit India in Oct. 2006.
Are bhai logo kosis karne par kya nahi ho sakta, karke deko, lakin abhi se kyo man bana liya ki aap oct. maie nahi aa sakte..........

Yours truly will surely keep these dates in mind... :)

[dreamz0802]

Thanx Rajendra uncle ji,
well me and ABHIMANYU would might be able to get something out of it by next week, but I was just wondering about that who is gonna take care of finances, My recommendation will be Lt.Col. Jagmohan uncle (if he is happy to do so), as he is in INDIA and he in my view is a responsible person for this job.

ALSO uncle ji, as I posted before in a particular note about inviting SARPANCH`s of as much villages as possible before our meet and we all know that we had RESERVATION system in our panchayat system, so we can make this meeting secular also with having peoples from all communities (FEMALES, SC/BC, JAT etc.). AND if it is possible then wiith the help of these peoples we would be able to get a much bigger crowd from rural areas and even we can get a little bit of idea (from their responses) that if we can get any sort of help from SARPANCH`s for future programs.

I DIDN~T GOT MUCH RESPONSE FROM MY CONCERNED POST BEFORE.

and also very-2 thanks and my appriciation, to all those peoples who are coming out for their support but it would be really greatfull of all you guys if you can arrange somehow to come in this MEET and make it a great success ( which inturn would help us guys for future progress)

I would like to say that peoples come peoples die (in my definition they are common peoples) without leaving any mark and you never got much chances in your life to do something that can help someone with your little efforts.

SO PLEASE THINK ABOUT THIS SERIOUSLY AS WE ARE GETTING A CHANCE TO DO SOMETHING FOR SOMEONE WITH A VERY LITTLE EFFORT.
COME ON JOIN HANDS WITH US
"WE CAN DO IT AND WE WILL DO IT".

CHEERS


Two days event should be enough. Let us assume we organise it on a Saturday and Sunday;



Please don't depend too heavily on individual contributions and NRIs..In my view the weakest link would be NRIs ( Hope I am proved wrong). Try to approach major contributors as far as possible. Your aim should be to collect about Rs. 5.0 lacs or so..

Rajendra

[positivelook]

hey members

There are good suggestions coming in our way and this is a good sign to our success. But as we all know this is a big task and we have to join hands for this but with commitment. So please members come forward with ur views. Well as According to u Rajender Uncle the schedule sounds good but i think this is just a rough idea so we can make little bit changes in this. i hope we will be able to finalize most of the things up to the end of october like date, programmes, agenda and all the stuff. And i recommend now to start working on making a programme commitee cos this will also take some time, so i think rajender uncle and Tavathia uncle u both can start working on making a programme commitee. After that we can surely be able to have a clear vision for our meet. So keep the fingers cross i hope some more people will join us up to next time when i will open this.

Aao milkar kranti layen, gaon ko ab shehar banaye!

Abhimanyu Phougat

[mukeshkumar007]

Yours truly will surely keep these dates in mind... :)

Thanks :)

[dreamz0802]

ram-ram RK uncle ji,

In my view we can allow other peoples from any community to speak may it be any political leader (as the invitation would be open with no individual specially welcomed), but it would undergo screening before passing it back to the individual who want to say something but marked with changes if required any where (we can do all this in tea session or in some break time).

Hi Ratan,

In my view there should be prepared presentations followed by some question answers. Open ended talks will not lead us any where.
Rajendra

[mukeshkumar007]

ram-ram RK uncle ji,

In my view we can allow other peoples from any community to speak may it be any political leader (as the invitation would be open with no individual specially welcomed), but it would undergo screening before passing it back to the individual who want to say something but marked with changes if required any where (we can do all this in tea session or in some break time).

I also think so.

[jagmohan]

[QUOTE=dreamz0802]
.......but I was just wondering about that who is gonna take care of finances, My recommendation will be Lt.Col. Jagmohan uncle (if he is happy to do so), as he is in INDIA and he in my view is a responsible person for this job......

Bhai Pammu,

Thanks for calling me a 'responsible person'!!!

I am indeed ready to undertake any responsibility, from MC to Waiter, Speaker to Doorman in order to make this Convention successful. Though I am presently located and working in Mumbai, hopefully I shall be in and around Delhi by the time it is 'Work Time' for the Convention.

Count me IN as a working hand.

Regards,

JS Malik

[mukeshkumar007]

Dear All,

I know that we are moving in right path. but It seems to me that we are trying to discuss every thing at a time, which is not possible. Still I am unable to understand that what type of commitee will be established and when?
I think first we need to clear every question one by one like :-

what step we have to taken ?
what will be the role of committee ?
what will be the role of members who are participating ?
what type of help could be done from members who are out of India and Rohtak /?
divide the work and assign it to interested members ? and etc???
So plz first discuss that what we need and how we can fullfill it ?

One more thing : Plz start a another thread where we will compile the name of members with their contact info. who are interested to participate in this meet day by day.

Thanks & Regards

[jitendershooda]

Ram Ram,

Bhai Pammu and Abhi ... gone through the posts and its nice idea brought up !!

But i have some queries due to confusions:

1. What is the MOTTO for this ??

Is it a National Level Jat's Meet or National Rural Convention ? as Pammu was telling to be somewhat secular in calling the non jat Sarpanch's ?? So actually what is this for and main motto for this ??

Please flash upon this. Is it only for JAT's or a mix up pointing towards the overall rural issues ???

If all goes well and one is lucky to escape the calamities, natural and man made, I would be there with my Paro.

But a lot of work needs to be done before that. I am sure important issues like u/m would be addressed:

(a) No of Days the Convention needs to be held?
(b) Selcetion of important issues that need to be addressed? Incresing Urbanisation around Delhi affecting our main source of livelihood, namely agriculture; Need for an Umbrella Organisation at National Level to address issue of JATS; Enhancing education & health facilities at Village levels etc
(c) Manner in which we interact. Remember some of us would be meeting for the first time and some time would be required for knowing and meeting each other.
(d) Forming of committees to prepare groundwork for issues to be discussed. For eg: I f Dowry is to be discussed then a team be formed to go into all aspects, statistics (No of Dowry Death, Court Cases, Remedial Measures, Draft Undertaking etc) and peper work.
(e) Follow up responsibilities. As important as having the convention.
(f) Ensuring it does not become a 'One-up-manship contest.
(g) A serious thought to be given to the issue of persons who need to be invited or not invited.
(h) Since there would be a lot of expenditure involved, even if the venue is free, we should all contribute towards the same.

I am sure there are many more issues that learned members would address.

Regards,

JS Malik

(a) No of Days the Convention needs to be held?

If it is collection of only 500 ppl and not a big one then

"The suggestion of Rajendar uncle ji is good one for this to be on Satuday and Sunday."

Also want to add that it will be good to have a small gathering of only those who really want to go with it for long.

(b) Selection of important issues that need to be addressed?

1. Dowry - for this issue I can go for the details if given this responsibility and various aspects covering this e.g remedies and what can be done to come out of this devil custom but will need all of your suggestions time to time.

2. Education: For this I suggest to have a commette or group who can manage some money for the adoption of some economic week jat students every year for their school fee and study materials. ( in this my parents can be of help as they are in teaching )

3. The main problem is about the youth not getting ways to earn as pointed by Jagmohan ji urbanisation and cutting off agricultural lands leading the youth shifting towards crime. How and what can be done for this problem?

As far as the place for this concerned, if the gathering is upto 500 only then Talyar would be fine and for more than 500 JAT college Hockey ground will be good as recently I have seen the arrangement was good for the YOGA By Swami Ramdev there.

Also for accomodation Maharani Kishori and jat college Hostel is there ..

[ Pammu, this we both can manage once the gathering and schedule is decided ... ]

3. Its nice to read a Boosting reply from Col Jagmohan ji for the acceptance of responsibility ...yes, I also feel that he will be Good choice for this responsibility ....

If we all really want to go for such a meet and to continue in future and donot want to leave it One time show !! for that a good and sincere thinking is required to frame it and then maintain it to get it going. Also some one senior and experienced people have to take responsibilies and pain as it will require a lot of time

Bhahiyo mene Bachha party mein gin lyo er jo kaam somp dyoge Raji hoke karange.

[dreamz0802]

bhai JITU ram-ram,

thanx for involving yourself with us, and I apologies that I will be busy untill SUNDAY but I am sure that any one of us who knows what is going on will definitly update you by that time and any question for me, then I`ll respond to your questions very-2 soon.

CHEERS
[QUOTE=jitendershooda]Ram Ram,

Bhai Pammu and Abhi ... gone through the posts and its nice idea brought up !!

But i have some queries due to confusions:

[dreamz0802]

JAGMOHAN uncle ji namaste and thank you very much for accepting this responsibility and hopefully every one else would also be happy with this.

arr uncle ji agar WAITER jaisi zarrorat padi tau hum chhotey kis kam K agar aap ko ye naubaat aaye.

CHEERS


[QUOTE=dreamz0802]
.......but I was just wondering about that who is gonna take care of finances, My recommendation will be Lt.Col. Jagmohan uncle (if he is happy to do so), as he is in INDIA and he in my view is a responsible person for this job......

Bhai Pammu,

Thanks for calling me a 'responsible person'!!!

I am indeed ready to undertake any responsibility, from MC to Waiter, Speaker to Doorman in order to make this Convention successful. Though I am presently located and working in Mumbai, hopefully I shall be in and around Delhi by the time it is 'Work Time' for the Convention.

Count me IN as a working hand.

Regards,

JS Malik

[dreamz0802]

dear MUKESH,

I know that you are right in your own sense but don`t worry dude we got one year and we are doing things slowly but in right way, so let us see how soon we all togeather can solve these questions from you. Some of us are a little bit busy, but it won`t be too long, I am preety much sure.
So let us see there are still a lot many peoples to respond and we need as much support as we can get before starting any thing.

CHEERS n take care


[QUOTE=mukesh_kumar007]Dear All,

I know that we are moving in right path. but It seems to me that we are trying to discuss every thing at a time, which is not possible. Still I am unable to understand that what type of commitee will be established and when?
I

[positivelook]

hi jitender

First of all thanx for offering ur support and now abt ur queries.

Well bro. the first query is abt Is it only Jats meet or Rural meet. This is really quite confusing but my friend i m fully in support of having a only Jats meet whether someone take it secular or not but few of our members are not in this Favour and they want to add other communities as well cos according to their point of view if we dont do like this than it will be a bit communal thing. So now the word Jat is not in the Heading of this meet.
Next thing abt including only serious people wjop are ready to go for few years is a valid query and i support u in this.
Abt. adopting childrens who are brilliant but not having finances is really a fanatastic idea and i m ready to do so. Well this is true if we really want to support our people than this is really a big task and we have to do something on ground, its not possible by lectures only.
But as i said nothing is finalized yet and we are getting suggestionb every day, so i think we are discussing it for another one month or so like this and than come up with the action plan.
We are also waiting for COl. Tavathias suggestions which will be posted here as he will get time to do so.
I recommend tht all people give atleast their suggestions so tht we can have a opinion abt our agenda.
Things are turning everyday we have to play our role!

Abhimanyu Phougat

[devdahiya]

My dear Abhimanyu and all others,

I admire the spirit and GO with which something like this has been proposed [i wish it my best wishes as well] but all said and done, it is not so simple.When i say this, i am elaborating the problem areas likely to be encountered by the very people who will be there on ground to organise this MAMMOTH[if i can dare call it so] meet. I will request all the members to be objective while analyzing the points given by me in the true spirit of a critical eye watch. Here are a few inputs please;

a] For any such meet an administrative clearance from the CHIEF Secratary of the state and the deputy commissionar of the DISTRICT[where the meet is going to be held] is mandatory and as such be ready to answer thousands of questions regarding the PURPOSE of such a meet and mind you just saying that WE WANT TO DO GOOD TO SOCIETY will not be enough to convince those people as so many Dummy organisations and groups are proving a pain in the neck for the government by their dubious functionings.

b] Political parties of the state will eye this meet with a great amount of suspicion and will try disturb it by underground operation unless these people are allowed to get associated with this meet to enhance their vote bank. But then if one party gets associated,the other party will target the meet and net result will be waste of time.

c] It will be a tremendous [highly calculative] job in hand for the organisers at ground to make diverse and multifold arrangements starting from selecting a venue, preparing guest list, arranging accommodations and tying up of so many minor deatails. It will be a challenge of sort and a lots of mind has to be applied.

d] Then we ought to define a charter in unambiguos terms with some sort of broader agreement between all members for such a meet to move ahead.

e] Then the charter has to be followed year by year with a constant thrust on progressive improvement and for that you need a DEDICATED AND FORWARD LOOKING TEAM, which needs to be earmarked not here on Jatland but there at the meet[with a majority support] Naming someone here just like that is not going to serve any purpose. Let us not shoot from the hip.

f] There has to be SOMEONE who will give direction to the organisation [is a question has to be pondered in detail and that person selected with a voice vote][ no election please].

g] Lots of finanance will be needed to sustain the organisation and hence a clear cut philosophy need to be defined in writing as to who will/can contribute what and how [to avoide heart burns] It is a very sensitive area and as such needs to be handled with utmost careand forethought.



Having given my inputs i pray for the success of any venture you all wish to enter into.I am ready to do my side of best. God speed!

[mukeshkumar007]

a] For any such meet an administrative clearance from the CHIEF Secratary of the state and the deputy commissionar of the DISTRICT[where the meet is going to be held] is mandatory and as such be ready to answer thousands of questions regarding the PURPOSE of such a meet and mind you just saying that WE WANT TO DO GOOD TO SOCIETY will not be enough to convince those people as so many Dummy organisations and groups are proving a pain in the neck for the government by their dubious functionings.

b] Political parties of the state will eye this meet with a great amount of suspicion and will try disturb it by underground operation unless these people are allowed to get associated with this meet to enhance their vote bank. But then if one party gets associated,the other party will target the meet and net result will be waste of time.

c] It will be a tremendous [highly calculative] job in hand for the organisers at ground to make diverse and multifold arrangements starting from selecting a venue, preparing guest list, arranging accommodations and tying up of so many minor deatails. It will be a challenge of sort and a lots of mind has to be applied.

d] Then we ought to define a charter in unambiguos terms with some sort of broader agreement between all members for such a meet to move ahead.

e] Then the charter has to be followed year by year with a constant thrust on progressive improvement and for that you need a DEDICATED AND FORWARD LOOKING TEAM, which needs to be earmarked not here on Jatland but there at the meet[with a majority support] Naming someone here just like that is not going to serve any purpose. Let us not shoot from the hip.

f] There has to be SOMEONE who will give direction to the organisation [is a question has to be pondered in detail and that person selected with a voice vote][ no election please].

g] Lots of finanance will be needed to sustain the organisation and hence a clear cut philosophy need to be defined in writing as to who will/can contribute what and how [to avoide heart burns] It is a very sensitive area and as such needs to be handled with utmost careand forethought.

!

Respected Uncleji,
Thank a lot for these suggestion. Your above mentioned points will help us a lot as we must need to be aware from every type of obstacles which may come in our way. I request to all members to provide more valuable suggestion because it will make our task easy.

[dreamz0802]

bhai JITU ram-ram,

thank you again for coming forward and sharing your views.

well to fuse ( :p ) your confusions:

1. MOTTO for this meet is as the name says "RURAL DEVELPOMENT", which means our team will be working on those areas which will help our village peoples to develop and keep growing within our culture as some of the areas we need to concentrate on are told by Rajendra uncle ji and Col. Tevethia uncle ji in previous threads.

WELL the secular thing i was talking about is that firstly I was also confused like you that what exactly is this going on and even I was and I still wish that it would have been a meet for development of our community, but as our seniors said that it should be a secular, and that is why I said that if we want the development of our rural peoples then we must have to take all the SARPANCH`s of related villages because we a handfull of people can not make each and every people in village aware of our goals without SARPANCH`s, and it will also help to make this meet secular as in our PANCHAYAT elections we have "QUOTA" (KHHOTA) system, so peoples from every community can be included in this way.

yes, I am agree with your suggestion for making JAT college as a venue but I believe that as it is much used for big rallies and stuff, but our`s is not a rally so we need some big hall rather then ground so that we can get quite afew facilities like PROJECTOR`s (if we need to show some slide show). but yep definitly KISHORI hostle is a good advice, and if didn`t got any room there then no worryz because now in ROHTAK their are many a lot private girls hostels.

Ram Ram,

Bhai Pammu and Abhi ... gone through the posts and its nice idea brought up !!

But i have some queries due to confusions:

1. What is the MOTTO for this ??

Is it a National Level Jat's Meet or National Rural Convention ? as Pammu was telling to be somewhat secular in calling the non jat Sarpanch's ?? So actually what is this for and main motto for this ??

Please flash upon this. Is it only for JAT's or a mix up pointing towards the overall rural issues ???

[dreamz0802]

Thank you for keeping our spirits high for this meet and your suggestions much before our meet would might be the main factors for our success. We will definitly go through each and every point inputed by you and make sure that we achieve these points successfully. WE ARE SLOWLY AND SLOWLY GOING IN RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT STILL WE GOTTA DO A LOT BECAUSE IN FACT WE HAVE DONE NOTHING TILL DATE.

a] Dev uncle ji, the very first thing I would like to say is that we have to make this commitee registered with some proper and distinguised name with the concerned organisation and then we have to make the manisfesto sort of thing that this is what we are gonna do (which we are still discussing and getting views from our JATLAND members and other peoples too)? AND if we got all this then I believe we will be all right as these kinda meetings have been held in past also which were more of rally then something real show.

b] We already made this clear that no one in this meet would be allowed to speak without his/her speech screened whatever his/her political status is, infact I am suggesting to invite selected peoples rather then just anyone. AND someone gave an idea of calling CM (HOODA ji) in this meet, but still I would like to see CM sahib as an special guest just to watch the cultural entertainment program(RAGINI or some plays) which we are planning on the end of our meet. BUT still whoever (may it be a politicain) will come forward to really help us out, would be openly and heartly welcomed.

c] I know that organising the task mentioned by you and many other responsibilities are a bit tough but not impossible and if there are some then I reckon IMPOSSIBLE it self says that I M POSSIBLE and I know that we will do it under the supervison of you guys. So please I request all the elders to help us out in organising this meet as we don`t wanna leave any stones unturned.

d] & e] This is a good suggestion DEV uncle ji but still for all this we need to make TEAM first and that is what we are doing at the moment and we quite a few members have suggested the name of RAJENDRA uncle ji to lead us from front co-ordinating with Col. TEVETHIA ji and Lt.Col. JAGMOHAN ji is suggested to deal with finances. AND I am also suggesting you as an planner for our commitee (working along with our leaders) ONLY IF YOU ARE HAPPY TO DO SO.

g] As for finances I would like to reccomend that all the members who will be registerd under our organisation (yet to be named) must have to pay atleast 125 bucks/month/member (currency should depend on the country of their residence) and more then this amount by anyone would really be appriciated. AND a database should be maintained of all these records for future needs.

CHEERS and I hope to see some more comments on my suggestions.
My dear Abhimanyu and all others,

I admire the spirit and GO with which something like this has been proposed [i wish it my best wishes as well] but all said and done, it is not so simple.When i say this, i am elaborating the problem areas likely to be encountered by the very people who will be there on ground to organise this MAMMOTH[if i can dare call it so] meet. I will request all the members to be objective while analyzing the points given by me in the true spirit of a critical eye watch. Here are a few inputs please;


a] For any such meet an administrative clearance from the CHIEF Secratary of the state and the deputy commissionar of the DISTRICT[where the meet is going to be held] is mandatory and as such be ready to answer thousands of questions regarding the PURPOSE of such a meet and mind you just saying that WE WANT TO DO GOOD TO SOCIETY will not be enough to convince those people as so many Dummy organisations and groups are proving a pain in the neck for the government by their dubious functionings.


b] Political parties of the state will eye this meet with a great amount of suspicion and will try disturb it by underground operation unless these people are allowed to get associated with this meet to enhance their vote bank. But then if one party gets associated,the other party will target the meet and net result will be waste of time.



c] It will be a tremendous [highly calculative] job in hand for the organisers at ground to make diverse and multifold arrangements starting from selecting a venue, preparing guest list, arranging accommodations and tying up of so many minor deatails. It will be a challenge of sort and a lots of mind has to be applied.


d] Then we ought to define a charter in unambiguos terms with some sort of broader agreement between all members for such a meet to move ahead.


e] Then the charter has to be followed year by year with a constant thrust on progressive improvement and for that you need a DEDICATED AND FORWARD LOOKING TEAM, which needs to be earmarked not here on Jatland but there at the meet[with a majority support] Naming someone here just like that is not going to serve any purpose. Let us not shoot from the hip.

g] Lots of finanance will be needed to sustain the organisation and hence a clear cut philosophy need to be defined in writing as to who will/can contribute what and how [to avoide heart burns] It is a very sensitive area and as such needs to be handled with utmost careand forethought.


Having given my inputs i pray for the success of any venture you all wish to enter into.I am ready to do my side of best. God speed!

[dreamz0802]

thanx POONAM ji and I hope you counted yourself in these truly ones....
<(";")>
CHEERS


Yours truly will surely keep these dates in mind... :)

[sktomer777]

I guess, it's not going to be in thousands, so some big hall should serve the purpose. It will be easy to manage there and will minimise the obstacles like gettting permission from seceratery, DM..
One suggestion.. as we call it 'gathering for rural development', we can run some some sort of compaign in rural areas so that we can get some jat youths from rural areas/schools/colleges. Some posters/banners can be placed in differentcolleges/villages. My understanding is , mere a gathering of people from this site won't serve any big purpose.
One more suggestion..if someone is ready to take the pain..a seprate list/thread can be maintained for all the suggestions given by members. It will help in consolidating the final plan.
And most important, we should be aware that what output we are expecting from this meeting..

[positivelook]

Hello Members

As we are moving towards this Convention we expect a good response from all Jat members on this site. As according to u Mr. Suresh Abt Posters and banners in villages is concerned i dont think there is any need of posters and banners cos we need only serious people we just dont want to gather the people who attend all the rallies and jalsa. So only serious contribution is key to our success. We need more people who are ready to take the pain for the community and take the work in their hands. Upto so far we have got good suggestions from members but i think more people here are interested in talking abt humuor section and gohana kand, which is not going to solve the purpose. I urge the members tht its all right u talk abt current affairs but dont u members think that we all have a moral responsibility toward our Jatland. So try to contribute here.

Abhimanyu Phougat

[devdahiya]

Hello Members

As we are moving towards this Convention we expect a good response from all Jat members on this site. As according to u Mr. Suresh Abt Posters and banners in villages is concerned i dont think there is any need of posters and banners cos we need only serious people we just dont want to gather the people who attend all the rallies and jalsa. So only serious contribution is key to our success. We need more people who are ready to take the pain for the community and take the work in their hands. Upto so far we have got good suggestions from members but i think more people here are interested in talking abt humuor section and gohana kand, which is not going to solve the purpose. I urge the members tht its all right u talk abt current affairs but dont u members think that we all have a moral responsibility toward our Jatland. So try to contribute here.

Abhimanyu Phougat




Bhai Abhimanyu thodda silla kar ke khawan mei bhalai se. Humor jindagi ka bohot ahem hissa sei ar yo bawali buchchan ka kaam konya...ghani akal aala aadmi-e loggan nei hassa sakke se. It is a real difficult art and so please take it cool.People will join you incase they find that you and other members mean business. Majority of people out here are good and wanna do good to the community, i am sure. Patience is the key to this venture. Let people discuss the Gohana also as that episode also deeply relates to our people and the problem faced by them. Cheers!

[priti]

Hi Abhimanyu

Ab aapne appeal ki hai to dhyan rakhna padega. Will follow this thread and keep the conference in mind.

On a secondary note, not to discourage or anything....i think formalising these things too much like 'charters' and stuff end up being one of those inflexible, official type of organisation which usually people runaway from....the format should be more participatory with broad purpose/s....apolitical, informal gathering of like minded people.

Would be happy to expand further...

Best wishes
Priti


....cant we have Hello All NRI bhai , Bhabi, Behans, Chacha, Tau and all

This is a appeal to all of u tht those who are planning their visits to india anytime in next year please consider this event and try to make arrangements to attend this. If ur planning ur visit 2-3 months before october 2006 than please try to delay it for octber 2006 and if ur planning in november-december 2006 than try to make it one month prior in oct. 2006.
So please try to do it so tht we get more participation from NRI jats.

Tune Chaha hee nahi warna haalat badal sakta tha,
Aankh Behti toh aansoo Nikal sakta tha,
Tu tehra hi raha Jheel ki tarah,
Dariya Banta toh door nikal sakta tha.

So please give it a go and lets see how far we can go. Try to reach the sky thts the way for a JAT.

Abhimanyu Phougat

[positivelook]

HELLO Dev jee

Please dont take it serious and beleive me i m very patient abt this. It was just my viewpoint and i m not discouraging anyone to post anything. By the way if i did anything wrong My apologies!

Abhimanyu Phougat

[radhikachhillar]

Most of the members prtcptng here R intlgnt and want 2 do gd 2 d cmnty.Dev ji, abhimanyuji , Sangwan ji, jagmohan ji,,,,,,,,,All are gems. Pl mv ahd and do gd. My bst wshs R wd U all.

[mukeshkumar007]

HELLO Dev jee

Please dont take it serious and beleive me i m very patient abt this. It was just my viewpoint and i m not discouraging anyone to post anything. By the way if i did anything wrong My apologies!

Abhimanyu Phougat

No no, Abhimanyu, you did nothing wrong my dear so there is no need to express apologies. you are doing very good job. keep it up with the same spirit.

[mukeshkumar007]

Most of the members prtcptng here R intlgnt and want 2 do gd 2 d cmnty.Dev ji, abhimanyuji , Sangwan ji, jagmohan ji,,,,,,,,,All are gems. Pl mv ahd and do gd. My bst wshs R wd U all.

Radhika ji, yeh kaunsi language hai :confused: :confused: :confused:

[bschhikara]

It is a good effort towards uniting the jat people. In the whole discussion regarding organising this convention...... only two things have been finalized.... venue (Rohtak)and month (Oct, 2005).
We have to finalise many things....... some even hard to decide.
As planned the convention will be two-three days affair and many people will be coming from outside, to make the convention organization a little easy one.. few suggestion that could be of use are ......
The convention will be having three part...
1. Day long lectures, discussions and interactions.
2. Food for all the participants.
3. Accomodation and travel.

To organise each event..... make a committee with a senior responsible head. Each will be responsible for respective part.

Still there are ambiguity about...
-number of participant
-participation by local youth and villagers
-finance

I think we should have formal 'form of participation' with some details like.. whether accomodation is required or not... contact info.. if want to deliver some lecture etc etc. This will give fair idea about the number of participants.... how much food to be prepared.... accomodation to be arranged. By this organiser can handle their events easily.
I donot agree with priti on this aspect that.... come and go... we understand that it is not a official meeting/gathering........ but something need to be done to make the convention easy going and with comfort... particularly for outsiders. OTHERWISE... it will convert into a hoch poch and there will be somewhat like 'bhagdar'... and ultimately the purpose for which the convention meant for.. will not be served.
Regarding getting help from local students.... I would suggest ... there are many Jats in MD university who will participating actively in this convention and they could be part of organisers. Like minded educated student gathers in front of Central library, MDU compus, Rtk every evening. They have even raised hand against the Gohana kand under the banner of "Chhoturam Jan Chetna Manch". Good thing abt that was that it is totally politics free. I saw that by their speeches and their first meeting. I came across that by chance... as I have been in Rohtak last week. These people could be of real help.

[positivelook]

Mr Bhupender

Thanx for ur advise and i appreciate wht u have suggested and as one of the organizer of the Convention we will surely see ur suggestions. First of all correction for date its not oct.2005 its oct.2006. Because we want to do something serious thtswhy we are taking a bit time for this and we are planning that wht we do should benefit for our people. So we are trying to get maximum participation from educated and like minded people who really wants to do something for upliftment of their people. We are planning this meet for results and not for the scene tht lets gettogether eat,drink and go. Yes we are planning the convention 4 two days in oct. 2006. Yes we will organize it in better way not like any Jalsa. So we are presently having a close look on all suggestions and soon we will finalize the dates. So lets see how it goes.

Abhimanyu Phougat

[mukeshkumar007]

I think now we should open a Bank Account to collect the money for this meet. Any one who want to contribute he/she can send money in this account. because to get an exact Idea of expenditure we should be aware from the resources have in our hand , so I think we should start from now.

what u guy think about it?

[mayankmalik77]

Hi all,

I am all four coners in for this meet pls let me know the date time and venue, pls do let me know

Warm Regards

Mayank

[positivelook]

dear mukesh and mayank

Mukesh we are in the talks with our elders supporters in regard to the financial situation and about the dates and i hope the things will be sort out shortly and we will come forward with the overall plan soon. So i hope this will be organise in well manner.

Abhimanyu Phougat

[mukeshkumar007]

dear mukesh and mayank

Mukesh we are in the talks with our elders supporters in regard to the financial situation and about the dates and i hope the things will be sort out shortly and we will come forward with the overall plan soon.
Abhimanyu Phougat

Where ? Did you people make any other platform for the discussion about this ? Just I am confuse because as u have said that we are in talks with our elders supporters but I am unable to see such type of discussion in this thread ?
Before Some days ago Sitaram Jakhar Bhiya also asked to me the same question ? Plz clear it brother.

[devdahiya]

I think now we should open a Bank Account to collect the money for this meet. Any one who want to contribute he/she can send money in this account. because to get an exact Idea of expenditure we should be aware from the resources have in our hand , so I think we should start from now.

what u guy think about it?



My dear Mukesh,

Bhai who will operate that account and where do you want to open the same and which bank and by what name? Do le me know please.

[mukeshkumar007]

My dear Mukesh,

Bhai who will operate that account and where do you want to open the same and which bank and by what name? Do le me know please.

Respected Uncleji,

Maie chata hoo ki aap khood hi is account ko operate kare and It can be opened at Mumbai/ Delhi in any national bank so that NRI also don't face any problem in sending his/her contribution.

[devdahiya]

Respected Uncleji,

Maie chata hoo ki aap khood hi is account ko operate kare and It can be opened at Mumbai/ Delhi in any national bank so that NRI also don't face any problem in sending his/her contribution.



Aise nahi hota bhai.......Acoount has to be poperated by a committe and there have to be a co-signatory to the accountand as such various drills and formalities have to be completed before you start collecting money etc . People on ground shold be involved in accounts etc and not people like us sitting at a far away place. First requirement however is to have a CO-ORDINATING COMMITTEE for this meet......WHERE IS THAT?

[positivelook]

Dear Mukesh

We are aware abt all the facts and as said by DEV jee we haver to look on each and every aspect if we really want to make it success. Anyway u asked abt the talks than let me clear u tht we are discussing with RK uncle and Tavathia uncle with all this stuff cos its not possible to discuss very tiny things here. Anyway when something is finalised than we will post every thing here.

Abhimanyu Phougat

[vinodks]

Awesome efforts. Though I won't be able to attend it lemme know if I can be of any use.
Rather than getting down to schedule of events(like tea and lecture times) general theme and issues to be dicussed should be on priority as there is more than 1 year left for on-the-day event planning. By the way whom you guys are inviting as speakers?

vinod

[mukeshkumar007]

Dear Mukesh

We are aware abt all the facts and as said by DEV jee we haver to look on each and every aspect if we really want to make it success. Anyway u asked abt the talks than let me clear u tht we are discussing with RK uncle and Tavathia uncle with all this stuff cos its not possible to discuss very tiny things here. Anyway when something is finalised than we will post every thing here.

Abhimanyu Phougat

Well, but discussinng about it away from jatland is good idea ?

[vinodks]

Hey,
Whats goin on in this front?... plz keep updating if any progress is made...
from previous post I had only 3 minor points.

-Somebody raised point what if non-jat wants to attend. I would say not only they should be allowed but you guys should make sure non-jats also attend. I know everything will be done very well becuz many wise people will be involved in planning etc.. just wanted to add, among other issue about rural development etc 'caste system' should be discussed..

-There is should be some discount for students. Funding for event should not depend on participation cost only... you guys should try for sponserships and donations.. 200$ per NRI might repel some valuable participants.. people can give whatever they want but minimum fee should be low...

-Follow up: Just having a convention and coming home is equal to not having a convention and coming home:-)) I mean main focus should be what we want to achieve by this... Rural development??? well, that happens everyday... it's cliched phrase... plz sketch out conceret plans about what you will be discussing and then doing "after the talking is over in convention"... and then convention can be inaugrational step and auspicious start in that direction... scientists work hard whole year and attend conventions to show what they DID and then go home... I mean labs... and start working again... you guys should approach some researcher in agriculture univ and Karnal diary etc for talks about rural technology etc...
I say there should be youth comittee too and elders should discuss apathy towards education among youth....

Anyway..

VindoXP

[raj2rif]

Hey,
Whats goin on in this front?... plz keep updating if any progress is made...
from previous post I had only 3 minor points.

-Somebody raised point what if non-jat wants to attend. I would say not only they should be allowed but you guys should make sure non-jats also attend. I know everything will be done very well becuz many wise people will be involved in planning etc.. just wanted to add, among other issue about rural development etc 'caste system' should be discussed..

-There is should be some discount for students. Funding for event should not depend on participation cost only... you guys should try for sponserships and donations.. 200$ per NRI might repel some valuable participants.. people can give whatever they want but minimum fee should be low...

-Follow up: Just having a convention and coming home is equal to not having a convention and coming home:-)) I mean main focus should be what we want to achieve by this... Rural development??? well, that happens everyday... it's cliched phrase... plz sketch out conceret plans about what you will be discussing and then doing "after the talking is over in convention"... and then convention can be inaugrational step and auspicious start in that direction... scientists work hard whole year and attend conventions to show what they DID and then go home... I mean labs... and start working again... you guys should approach some researcher in agriculture univ and Karnal diary etc for talks about rural technology etc...
I say there should be youth comittee too and elders should discuss apathy towards education among youth....

Anyway..

VindoXP

Dear Vinod,
Your suggestions are excellent. I agree with you on all the points. Let us see what is the response of other members. There is another thread though on this: Rohatak Rural Convention: So kindly visit that too, when ever you get time. Hope to see you all at Diwali Function.

[positivelook]

Hi vinod

Yes we are including some non-jats in the convention and thatswhy "JAT" word is not in the name of rural convention. We will try our best to get good results from this convention. Abt. financial requirements i think if anyone wants to contribute more than wht specified by Rajender jee can go for it otherwise i think the $200 is not a big amt for NRI even 4 students cos i m just finished my studies and i know tht if u try u can earn $200 in a day or two.
Ny way lets see how things goes.

Abhimanyu Phougat

[anujkadyan]

Best of luck guys .. Its an amazing effort you guys are putting in. I am from Rohtak but in hyderabad.. Will surely try to help out in this.

Regards,
Anuj

[positivelook]

hi Anuj

Thanx bro. i hope we will surely meet in the rural convention. its always good to have some like minded Jats together otherwise u never know wht happens.
Nyway thanx again .

Abhimanyu Phougat

[p.balhra]

Hi

We are here to welcome you all.Pls make me feel proud by allocating any responsibility in this regard.
As i visit Rohtak on all most every weekend.so i ll try my best as a team member for the sucess of the Event.

Regards to all

Pankaj Balhra
Ph- 91-011-30331122,30933258
91-01262-211165
Cell- 91-9312213663
E-Mail- Pankaj.Balhra@relianceinfo.com

[positivelook]

Dear Pankaj

TRhanx for offering ur services we will surely contact u for any responsibility. Its nice that lots of people are coming forward and i hope this will really make the difference.

Abhimanyu Phougat

[mukeshkumar007]

bhaiyo kuch ho reha hai ki nahi ?

[vinodks]

Arre I just about to revive this post and ask people where do things stand?... and Mukesh bhai does it:-))... telepathy?...

Abhimanyu, RKji and Tawathiaji, plz lets know about latest developments... I guess we shd come back to this and see where could this long discussion be lead... If even program can't be organized to the expected scale, we shd certainly try not to ditch the idea altogether... I am sure members would try to help in whatever way they cud...

-Vinod

bhaiyo kuch ho reha hai ki nahi ?

[vivekpilania]

Hello Guys,
its nice effort. i am from bhiwani. right now i am in bombay doing my mba from nmims. if anyway i can help , please let me know.it will be an honour to do something for our own area.
these days , in my MBA i am specializing in rural development especially agriculture.

my numbers are
09892147169
022 39409965

Vivek Pilania

[jakhar77]

Mukesh bhai I was just thinking about this.
I have my one vacation scheduled in sept. last.
Please share the latest devlopment in this.
Yes, vinod bhai it seems telepathy, isn't it?

bhaiyo kuch ho reha hai ki nahi ?

[positivelook]

hey guys

Dont worry the idea is still there and we will do it. Sorry to not keep the thread going cos we have started bit earlier. Nyway dear members actually i m waiting till end of march 2006 cos i m bit busy upto end of march but after that we will start doin everything like fund raising and we will decide how we are going to organise it and wht will be the agenda and wht topics we are going to cover in this convention. So wht we are thinking here is that dates are almost final upto like around last weekend of october. So guys if we start from April than we have around 6-7 mnths to go and now we have people together under Jan jagriti as well so for sure we will create the difference here.

Abhimanyu Phougat

[mukeshkumar007]

hey guys

Dont worry the idea is still there and we will do it.
Abhimanyu Phougat

oh thanks GOd... maine to socha tha ki is thread ka bi ram naam sath ho gaya hai :)

thanks for timely reply bhai..

[raj2rif]

Dear All,
I think we need to continue on this program. Deepender Hooda's help needs to be taken to organize it. We have discussed a lots of points on this subject. Dr. Ram Kumar Ji had said that he would be there. Abhimanyu and Mr. Sangwan are willing to take on the responsibilities. Col Malik would be there too. I guess, the time is running out and we need to get in to aggressive mode to make it happen.
Let us mobilise people to get to the convention.
People familiar with Rohtak should find out and book a reasonable place.
Members please do let us know if the enthusiasm is still there.
We should have two threads on this subject. One dealing only with the organizational details and the other with the conceptual aspects.
Please put your comments and suggestions.

[mukeshkumar007]

Dear All,
I think we need to continue on this program. Deepender Hooda's help needs to be taken to organize it. We have discussed a lots of points on this subject. Dr. Ram Kumar Ji had said that he would be there. Abhimanyu and Mr. Sangwan are willing to take on the responsibilities. Col Malik would be there too. I guess, the time is running out and we need to get in to aggressive mode to make it happen.
Let us mobilise people to get to the convention.
People familiar with Rohtak should find out and book a reasonable place.
Members please do let us know if the enthusiasm is still there.
We should have two threads on this subject. One dealing only with the organizational details and the other with the conceptual aspects.
Please put your comments and suggestions.
Resp Uncleji,

starting to threads for this plan will be really good idea but it seems that not many members are interested in this meet as only few members are replying here...
is it so ?

[lokeshpawar]

Ram Ram!!!
I am coming to delhi on 6 th of march for 15 days leave.In the month of october i will be in delhi. I am working with an NGO in Andman & Nicobar islandS. Pls. include me in ur team. I hope my experience may contribute to our future.

Regards,
LOKESH.

[rameshwarsingh]

for me, this will be opportunity to see whom i could see only on jatland.com.
waiting eagrly..

[narenderkadian]

I also want to become a active member of your team. my friend.

[narenderkadian]

I also want to become a active member of your team. my friend. I am living in Gurgaon and working in Ministry of Defence(MoD).

[positivelook]

Dont worry kadyan bhai aapko jaroor yaad karenge, humne toh time par kaam aane walon kee jaroorat hai.
Anyway thanx for offer.

Abhi

[vikaskundu]

hi u all i hav just read this thread...
i am still not clear wat is goin on? is their a commitee formed yet? if not plz firstly do that and plz start 2 thread as stated above one for the organizing members where they can tell people wat is the latest development.. and other for people providing sum suggestion and plz form a governing body if not formed yet( take elder like col ji , tavathia ji , rk ji , dev sir,and more) plz do tell is there any substantial progress
hoping for the best... plz do members of this group no how they can prove helpful?????? in this meet everyone is askin it... and wat to say more u guys know it all
best of luck

[prashantacmet]

Well guys, i appreciate the planning executed by Mr. abhimanu & all other organisers. one suggestion from my side which i want to post here that is about the venue. Infact, the venue is already decided so there should not be any intrusion in that. But i think any place near DELHI will be comfortable for all?? Rest is on organisers................

[jakhar77]

Hi Abhi,
How the preparations are going on?
Please keep updating here too.

Regards.

[dreamz0802]

NAMASTE to all,

As we said that we will start this program of convention in APRIL, so here it is. We (me and all other intrested members) will decide on some common date first alongwith all other main discussions. SO I think I better request all senior members to come forward along with us to shape-up this program.

FIRST I would like to make note of all the peoples intrested in doing anything related to NATIONAL RURAL CONVENTION in ROHTAK. All the program has even been discussed before, but still I`ll put notes in new thread as well.

So everyone just push yourself along with us we`ll make it happen and eventually with success.

CHEERS

[positivelook]

Bhaio

As Pammu has indicated tht we are ready to go for this. Now i would like to get the opinion abt the Date first tht more member are interested . So as it was decided b4 tht it will be in last week of oct. but i would like to give new option which can be first week of september. So let us decide and i see if atleast 100-150 members are interested than its worth to organise such a meet otherwise i dont think so. Anyway lets give ur names who are willing to support this meet and willing to attend.

Abhimanyu Phougat

[mukeshkumar007]

mero naam to likh le bhai...

[cooljat]

mera naam bhi likh le Abhi :)

Rock on
Jit

[naveenprakash]

hi brother,

Regarding the auditorium in ALL INDIA JAT HEROS MEMORIAL COLLEGE.I would like to inform everybody that Jat college has a year back constructed a new auditorium and its functional.

Secondaly regarding accomodation there is boys hostel in the college premises itslef so even i think that AIJHM college is the best place to organise the meeting.I know all this bcoz i had done my BCA,PGDCA from the college and had been a hosteler during this period.I passed out in 2002.Even the management is also nice and cooperative.whereas the significane of tilyar lake has just a tourist & commercial place and nothing related to jats.so i personally feel AIJHM IS THE BEST PLACE and rest depends on the organisers.Me and my Family will hve full support and cooperation to whatever is decieded by our jat members.

[naveenprakash]

Include my name bhai.Iwill definately attend the meet.
NAVEEN DHANKHAR

[rameshlakra]

Dear all,

I think lot more people are going to come up as u firm up the following:-

- Agenda points and day/hour wise programme
- Dates, time and venue

Janjagriti issues can be one such events and probably u can set aside a day or half for brainstorming session( with article submitted in advance) and fund raising.

Do let me know if there is anything u would like me to shoulder.

Regards,

Ramesh

[shivraj]

Hello JAT BHAIYON
i m an active JATLAND MEMEBER.
i need ur help... if u can do i'll be highly grateful to u .
Can u give me any idea that HOW I CAN JOIN JAT ASSOCIATION?
i wanna to be da member of JAT Association.
plz suggest me
any JAT association centre is thr in Bangalore or not ?
plzzzzzzzzzzzz reply me soon

waiting for ur reply

bye n thanx

App sabka Chhota Bhai

shivraj Choudhary

[dreamz0802]

hi brother,

AIJHM IS THE BEST PLACE and rest depends on the organisers.Me and my Family will hve full support and cooperation to whatever is decieded by our jat members.

Bhai DHANKHAR we know AIJHM is also one of the best venues for this convention, but TILYAR is chosen because of some extra facilities we`ll get in their like REFRESHMENT, WAITING STAFF. Apart from this it is a cool place for any kinda get togeather, no parking problems easily assesible and on top of this we can get a heavy discount for booking in TILYAR. SO still I would recommend TILYAR then AIJHM. But any way thank you very much and I really appricaite your IDEA about this place and I also know AIJHM very well as I am also pass out student from their.
HOPEFULLY if we keep on going then we can consider about next convention in their. So lets see how we go with this one.

AND THANK you and your family very much for coming forward on this new kinda IDEA by our JATLAND for development of our rural peoples.

CHEERS

[dreamz0802]

Dear all,

I think lot more people are going to come up as u firm up the following:-

- Agenda points and day/hour wise programme
- Dates, time and venue

Janjagriti issues can be one such events and probably u can set aside a day or half for brainstorming session( with article submitted in advance) and fund raising.

Do let me know if there is anything u would like me to shoulder.

Regards,

Ramesh

LAKRA bhai dhnayawaad for your suggestion and you are right actually to put above points before starting with anything but before this date was in OCTOBER but few peoples are asking for this in SEPTEMBER so I wanna make sure that we consider on some common date that would be flexible with everyone. From my side I would say any date in SEPTEMBER or may be anything after AUGUST would be great as Myself and Mr. Abhmanyu are probably going around mid-july, so still we need atleast a month or so for preparing with everything. After regarding agenda and other programs it would be better if we know how many peoples are coming forward for this program and in what sense they can help us.
So once we know all this it will be easy to decide who is happy to do what....

CHEERS and thanx we really need your contribution to make this successfull...

[anubhavdhankhar]

Me too brothers...
I m from rohtak itself... so no probs.
contact me at 9813103692.
Anubhav Dhankhar

[positivelook]

Bhai Anubhav thanx for offering ur support and we will meet u soon in rohtak. Wht happened to the members who supported this idea when it was given by mukesh and now they even dont think to add few lines here. Bhaio if anyone here is thinking that this idea will not going to implement than pls get out from this. As we asked for suggestion regarding the agenda of this meeting and we need everyones advise on this, so pls come forward .

Abhimanyu Phougat

[vinodks]

Is it happening? Somebody has to take the lead, conventions don't happen on virtual forums, ground work should begin by now becuz its approching near... We are ready to help in whatever ways possible...

-vinod

[positivelook]

Bhai vinod

I dont think it will happen cos we have tried our best to sumup the members and i appealed to them several time to come out but no one is coming out so i dropped the idea. I m going to India in August i will try to meet few people and than if we feel that we can make it than only we will do this. Thanx for ur concern. I think there is a ego problem on Jatland but i dont want to go further.

Abhimanyu Phougat

[rkumar]

Bhai vinod

I dont think it will happen cos we have tried our best to sumup the members and i appealed to them several time to come out but no one is coming out so i dropped the idea. I m going to India in August i will try to meet few people and than if we feel that we can make it than only we will do this. Thanx for ur concern. I think there is a ego problem on Jatland but i dont want to go further.

Abhimanyu Phougat

Bhai Abhimanyu,

Jatland ke members ke bharose koi bhi Jat convention nahi ho saktee aur yeh maine bahut pehle se ess thread par likh diyaa thaa. So don't be disappointed on that account. If you have to organise anything, just do it and don't bother about people here...Just put a notice here and leave it to people if they want to attend... As far as I am concerned, I am moving over to India by July end and I will be very much there most of August and September. During October I will be travelling.

RK^2

[raj2rif]

Bhai Abhimanyu,

Jatland ke members ke bharose koi bhi Jat convention nahi ho saktee aur yeh maine bahut pehle se ess thread par likh diyaa thaa. So don't be disappointed on that account. If you have to organise anything, just do it and don't bother about people here...Just put a notice here and leave it to people if they want to attend... As far as I am concerned, I am moving over to India by July end and I will be very much there most of August and September. During October I will be travelling.

RK^2

Dear Rajendra Ji,
I think, it is sad when we read this comment posted by you "jatland ke members ke bharose...."

I think you are one of the very active member of this forum. So let us not comment on all the members abilities, interests and enthusiasm. We need to encourage the younger people rather than passing such comments which are only discouraging.

I remember the time of October was decided based on your suggestions only. Further, you had said that you will be one of the active participant for this convention. I remember a young member drew an organization committe, which was to be headed by you (or atleast you were shown as a key member of the organization) If that be so, I guess your responsibility to help this convention come becomes more than any one else.

As mentioned by you, it may not be possible for you to be there as you would be travelling during that time. That is fine. Kindly do let us know, what these young people need to do if they decide to move forward. Your suggestions are going to be very valuable.

[vinodks]

I agree with it, in fact I was hoping that RKji is best man to take the lead becuase he mobilized the discussion... there were some talks of starting up new political party in April and a meeting date was also being set up in some other thread.. I reminded that and asked for minutes of meeting... but that lasted only as long as a thread lives on Jatland, not more than 2 weeks... I hope people would put more efforts in matching actions with words...
Abhimanyu, you should meet Jan jagriti people during vacations and discuss... if not for a rural convention, there are other things too in which you can help, and people like us should be more active in janjagriti yahoogroup too along with Jatland...

Best of luck!

-vinod


Dear Rajendra Ji,
I think, it is sad when we read this comment posted by you "jatland ke members ke bharose...."

I think you are one of the very active member of this forum. So let us not comment on all the members abilities, interests and enthusiasm. We need to encourage the younger people rather than passing such comments which are only discouraging.

I remember the time of October was decided based on your suggestions only. Further, you had said that you will be one of the active participant for this convention. I remember a young member drew an organization committe, which was to be headed by you (or atleast you were shown as a key member of the organization) If that be so, I guess your responsibility to help this convention come becomes more than any one else.

As mentioned by you, it may not be possible for you to be there as you would be travelling during that time. That is fine. Kindly do let us know, what these young people need to do if they decide to move forward. Your suggestions are going to be very valuable.

[rkumar]

I agree with it, in fact I was hoping that RKji is best man to take the lead becuase he mobilized the discussion... there were some talks of starting up new political party in April and a meeting date was also being set up in some other thread.. I reminded that and asked for minutes of meeting... but that lasted only as long as a thread lives on Jatland, not more than 2 weeks... I hope people would put more efforts in matching actions with words...
Abhimanyu, you should meet Jan jagriti people during vacations and discuss... if not for a rural convention, there are other things too in which you can help, and people like us should be more active in janjagriti yahoogroup too along with Jatland...

Best of luck!

-vinod

Vinod,

Be assured a convention will be organised. I withdrew my Shamli offer purely to let younger members take the lead and gain experience. I never backed out from supporting them. My support can be taken almost for granted for any community related activity. Having organised quite a few conferences and conventions, I would rather go by my experiences and not by theoretical views.

RK^2

[positivelook]

Dear Vinod

I will be in India in August for two weeks and i m planning to meeet with Jan jagriti people and i will put my interest in front of them and i m hoping tht we will decide on something.
I will be in India hopefully in october as welll so if something will be finalized we can organize this meet.

For the members who really want to do something i request them not to throw stones on each others and try to be active on ground level. As u all know my situation tht i m based in abroad for sometime(which i hope wont be long) so at present i can only put limited efforts.

Abhimanyu Phougat

[dreamz0802]

Is it happening? Somebody has to take the lead, conventions don't happen on virtual forums, ground work should begin by now becuz its approching near... We are ready to help in whatever ways possible...

-vinod

Vinod bhai your concern is up to mark and thanx for bringing this thread in BOLD`s again. Well I still got same enthu as it was on very first day. I am going to INDIA in AUGUST and will remain there untill Jan-Feb`07 N it doesn`t bother me much if some one from JATLAND is coming to join hands or not but M gonna see JAN JAGRITI members there N then we`ll carry on for this convention.
Well I apologies for not gettin much involved in any forms wid any of the acttivities.But the true fact is dat I don`t wanna get involved untill I can do some thing full on but any ways I wud be free untill Jan/Feb`07 from Aug`06. Hopefully I`ll advance to get counted on few things N we wud be successfull for this event (NRC Rohtak`06).
Cheers mate `ll get in touch very soon....

[dreamz0802]

Vinod,

Be assured a convention will be organised. I withdrew my Shamli offer purely to let younger members take the lead and gain experience. I never backed out from supporting them. My support can be taken almost for granted for any community related activity. Having organised quite a few conferences and conventions, I would rather go by my experiences and not by theoretical views.

RK^2

RK ji just to make sure of Ur first line it`ll definitly be organised but I wud still luv to C my front line wid experinced persons like U n Col. Tewetia ji, N Lt. Col. Jagmohan uncle ji and also wud be a GR8 experience to work wid Jan Jagriti.
So Catch ya soon in INDIA (uddey pakdaangey aap ne khaaskar convention k chaakkar main)

Cheers

[hoodavishal]

pal
i m from rohtak. u can use me for this very purpose. thanks:)

[hoodavishal]

i will come in this meet with 100 pals.promise.:)
regards.

[dreamz0802]

pal
i m from rohtak. u can use me for this very purpose. thanks:)

Vishal ji really wud like to distriute work around us once every thing is planned and we`ll definitly be in touch around 15th August and update U for sure....

Cheers

[dreamz0802]

ram-ram everybody ne,

bhai jaldi-2 chakkar marne y chahiye nahin to ghar kyan K jitney bhi kaam ruk re ho se sarey aantiye gina diye.
Any way M just kiddin but coming to the point M in ROHTAK and now I guess is the time to meet all our JATLAND members who are in ROHTAK and anyone who is intrested (not intrested are also welcome for SEET) in NRC Rohtak or may be give their names with names with contact no.
we`ll do it......
cheers

[bharti]

Dear All... Jatland members...

You can be rich, with no money to spend.
You can do everything when you understand.
You can be mother, when you are a man.
Open up, You know that you can.
Open up the borders and start in your head
Open your mind to thoughts seldom said.
Open your heart and open your mind.
Open your thoughts and don’t stay behind.
Open your eyes, open your mind.
Open your thoughts, don’t stay behind.
Open up, Open up, Open up,
Open up, Open up, Open up.

Come one, come all.....JOIN.... to organise this NRC ... SUCCESSFULLY.

i shall surely join.
regards,
bharti.

[trueblueindian]

Well Wots Next Whn R We Meeting

[desijat]

i will be in with Sandesh bhai 2