Mumbai versus New-Orleans!?!

[shailendra]

Bhai...ek baat to hai, the images that are being beamed across the world about the tragedy in New-Orleans and of the other close regions affected around it....are horrendous and are almost as bad as any recent tragedies (By the way; don't you just hate it when they keep repeating the word 'Third World Countries' in the news here...as if the word 'third-world' is some kind of a disease or a stigma!?!...)

But anyways, without trying to get into a debate about wat is happening here in the US (it's a tragedy no matter where it is) and/or what is being done or not being done (Articles in the news about racism; for example how the ones affected being mostly blacks, Bush admnistration not worried about helping them etc etc...of course the Urban Planning aspects; New Orleans was always below sea level and reciepe for perfect disaster forever etc etc)...I am gonna stay away from all that [maybe a discussion for some other post]...

But will just quote-unquote here from a recent Times of India article that caught the lighter (but at the same time true) side of the whole scenario. I mean really, look at the Tsunami in Asia, or the earthquake in Gujarat, and the recent floods in Mumbai....and then consider this natural disaster in the US, ....comparing the reactions of the people affected directly; one just wonders if the Americans are just super laid back, spoilt, complacent individuals that cannot tolerate undergoing even the smallest difficulties? I mean I can myself personally relate to you the oh poor me 'horror' stories that fellow colleauges in my office would relate about losing electric power in the house for a few measley days! (for those who don't know; the storm had gone thru Florida before it Hit New-Orleans with more strength)

Well, who knows!?! But anyways..here is some food for thought; read on:

'In New Orleans there was shooting and looting when the floods came last week. When a similar inundation struck Mumbai a month earlier, there was no violence, just free vada-paav.
Residents say street vendors passed out the vada-paav to their fellow citizens wading through waist-high water in a sign that the disaster brought the city together rather than tearing it apart as appeared to happen in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.
The response seems to symbolise what South Asians say is the region’s familiarity with, and resilience in the face of, numerous natural calamities.

Would it be a fair assessment to say that many of the problems arose in the US as the people here are not used to facing calamities. They expect complete efficiency and find it difficult to cope if it does not come about.

Incidentally; Mumbai police commissioner AN Roy confirmed there were no cases of looting, arson or violence when the floods hit Mumbai.
"Even stray cases of robbery were not heard or reported," he said.

India has regularly faced natural disasters from earthquakes, storms and floods during monsoon. As a result, it has developed rapid responses for shelter and relief that while not wholly successful for long-term rehabilitation, have enabled them to handle immediate needs quickly.'

[rkumar]

Where is western media and all these BBcs, CNNs sleeping now? Why can't the admit that Indians are far better in handing such calamities than Americans? May be they outsource crisis handing from Mumbai now...LOL

RK^2

[devdahiya]

Bhai...ek baat to hai, the images that are being beamed across the world about the tragedy in New-Orleans and of the other close regions affected around it....are horrendous and are almost as bad as any recent tragedies (By the way; don't you just hate it when they keep repeating the word 'Third World Countries' in the news here...as if the word 'third-world' is some kind of a disease or a stigma!?!...)

But anyways, without trying to get into a debate about wat is happening here in the US (it's a tragedy no matter where it is) and/or what is being done or not being done (Articles in the news about racism; for example how the ones affected being mostly blacks, Bush admnistration not worried about helping them etc etc...of course the Urban Planning aspects; New Orleans was always below sea level and reciepe for perfect disaster forever etc etc)...I am gonna stay away from all that [maybe a discussion for some other post]...

But will just quote-unquote here from a recent Times of India article that caught the lighter (but at the same time true) side of the whole scenario. I mean really, look at the Tsunami in Asia, or the earthquake in Gujarat, and the recent floods in Mumbai....and then consider this natural disaster in the US, ....comparing the reactions of the people affected directly; one just wonders if the Americans are just super laid back, spoilt, complacent individuals that cannot tolerate undergoing even the smallest difficulties? I mean I can myself personally relate to you the oh poor me 'horror' stories that fellow colleauges in my office would relate about losing electric power in the house for a few measley days! (for those who don't know; the storm had gone thru Florida before it Hit New-Orleans with more strength)

Well, who knows!?! But anyways..here is some food for thought; read on:

'In New Orleans there was shooting and looting when the floods came last week. When a similar inundation struck Mumbai a month earlier, there was no violence, just free vada-paav.
Residents say street vendors passed out the vada-paav to their fellow citizens wading through waist-high water in a sign that the disaster brought the city together rather than tearing it apart as appeared to happen in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.
The response seems to symbolise what South Asians say is the region’s familiarity with, and resilience in the face of, numerous natural calamities.

Would it be a fair assessment to say that many of the problems arose in the US as the people here are not used to facing calamities. They expect complete efficiency and find it difficult to cope if it does not come about.

Incidentally; Mumbai police commissioner AN Roy confirmed there were no cases of looting, arson or violence when the floods hit Mumbai.
"Even stray cases of robbery were not heard or reported," he said.

India has regularly faced natural disasters from earthquakes, storms and floods during monsoon. As a result, it has developed rapid responses for shelter and relief that while not wholly successful for long-term rehabilitation, have enabled them to handle immediate needs quickly.'



Shailendra bhai...India is different. It's people Are wonderful. East or west India is THE BEST.

[aditi]

Well said Rkumar uncle........it was the spirit of the ppl n Mumbai that kept them goin...

Kudos to all Mumbaiets......!



Where is western media and all these BBcs, CNNs sleeping now? Why can't the admit that Indians are far better in handing such calamities than Americans? May be they outsource crisis handing from Mumbai now...LOL

RK^2

[dahiyarules]

Well BBC, CNN and all are keeping quite becuase it is an issue about political correctness. As many of us who have been to New Orleans have realized, its the American Version of Rawanda. New Orleans is an overly major Black city. I call it the Detroit of the south. Every evening after dark, Canal Street is like a war zone. There are police all over the damn place. Excuse me if I am overestimating, but maybe one officer for every black man.I hate to be politically correct. The Black people are a real menace. They have been raping evacuees in the superdome. Beating police officers and rescue workers to death. And have been breaking into stores and stealing electronic items when theres no electricity within a radius of 50 miles.

Make Mumbai 75 percent African, and see what happens when Mumbai floods next time.

[shailendra]

Well BBC, CNN and all are keeping quite becuase it is an issue about political correctness. As many of us who have been to New Orleans have realized, its the American Version of Rawanda. New Orleans is an overly major Black city. I call it the Detroit of the south. Every evening after dark, Canal Street is like a war zone. There are police all over the damn place. Excuse me if I am overestimating, but maybe one officer for every black man.I hate to be politically correct. The Black people are a real menace. They have been raping evacuees in the superdome. Beating police officers and rescue workers to death. And have been breaking into stores and stealing electronic items when theres no electricity within a radius of 50 miles.

Make Mumbai 75 percent African, and see what happens when Mumbai floods next time.

Wow... that was quite a post seething with issues against blacks, I must say! ;) Just kidding,.... but not speaking from a bad experience or something, are we?

Anyways, look I am no speaker/activist for the Blacks or anything by any stretch of the imagination, but you gotta start taking the news in the media here in the US with a whole bunch of moderation really (it would be unfair to even put them at par with the British tabloids or paparazzi…these news media here are even worse!)… I wonder what are the true stats or numbers on the ‘rapes’ and ‘shooting’ of policemen/helpers(?)
They are already comparing pictures of how a white couple wading thru waist deep waters carrying packages are labeled as ‘Folks find food’ in the American News media, while an another picture with a black teenage kid wading thru same depth waters and carrying something on his shoulders has been labeled,’ Looters on the prowl’…

I have no doubts about New Orleans being a primarily black dominated city, but I wonder what the human frustration can make one do when there is no food and water (and no help) and one had to do whatever you can to scavenge for it (even if it means breaking into stores in hope of finding something)….
Which then brings me to the real issue being discussed in detail about why they say that had to happen in the first place!----
Where were the Bush administration (still supposedly either in their vacation period or just back from it) and what about the Federal aid guys? Where was the National Guard and why were they still missing after three days when even before the Hurricane hit the reports etc. had started talking about widespread chaos and destruction….
Anyways, it would be an understatement to say they we shall be seeing some flurry of allegations and counter-allegations in days to come (oh yeah, of course these bureaucrats are the same everywhere! And so are these ... investigations! ;) )

[dahiyarules]

well I am talking about these folks stealing Televisions from the local stores. Shooting at rescue helicopters and Killing Policemen.

I dont have issues against Black people. I just dont ahve tollerance for stupidly savage people. I have some really good Black friends, and My roomate is one of them. But hes one smart dude. Are you getting my point Hooda Bhai. :-)

Yea the response was really slow. And I can see the lack of concern, when I compare the 50 dead in London with the thousands dead in New Orleans. Is this tragedy going to be put at par with 9-11. its highly possible more people died in it.

But one thing is for sure. The guys who initially setup New Orleans were real geniuses. French Quarter is intact. ANd as you klnow that they place their dead on raised platforms. Someone envisioned the floods over 300 years ago. It never happend for all these years. But when it happend, it really did justify their landscaping and architecture.

[shailendra]

But one thing is for sure. The guys who initially setup New Orleans were real geniuses. French Quarter is intact. ANd as you klnow that they place their dead on raised platforms. Someone envisioned the floods over 300 years ago. It never happend for all these years. But when it happend, it really did justify their landscaping and architecture.

Yup man, you better believe it! A very good point indeed! No wonder the artisans and laborer's (and the Architects) were a breed apart in those times!
Those guys (here or anywhere in the world) had no real good technology to rely or fall back on but they still made some much smarter choices!

[gaganjat]

An interesting fact, hurricanes are always named after a woman and typhoons after a man.

[hamendra]

I couldn't' stop making this comparison..

inches of rain in new orleans due to hurricane
katrina... 18
inches of rain in mumbai (July 27th).... 37.1

population of new orleans... 484,674
population of mumbai.... 12,622,500

deaths in new orleans within 48 hours of
katrina...100
deaths in mumbai within 48hours of rain.. 37.

number of people to be evacuated in new orleans...
entire city..wohh
number of people evacuated in mumbai...10,000

Cases of shooting and violence in new
orleans...Countless
Cases of shooting and violence in mumbai.. NONE

Time taken for US army to reach new orleans...
48hours
Time taken for Indian army and navy to reach
mumbai...12hours

status 48hours later...new orleans is still
waiting for relief, army and electricty
status 48hours later..mumbai is back on its feet
and is business is as usual

USA...world's most developed nation
India...JUST A DEVELOPING NATION..

oopss...did i get the last fact wrong??? Or am I
just being proud of being an INDIAN

[dahiyarules]

I couldn't' stop making this comparison..

inches of rain in new orleans due to hurricane
katrina... 18
inches of rain in mumbai (July 27th).... 37.1

population of new orleans... 484,674
population of mumbai.... 12,622,500

deaths in new orleans within 48 hours of
katrina...100
deaths in mumbai within 48hours of rain.. 37.

number of people to be evacuated in new orleans...
entire city..wohh
number of people evacuated in mumbai...10,000

Cases of shooting and violence in new
orleans...Countless
Cases of shooting and violence in mumbai.. NONE

Time taken for US army to reach new orleans...
48hours
Time taken for Indian army and navy to reach
mumbai...12hours

status 48hours later...new orleans is still
waiting for relief, army and electricty
status 48hours later..mumbai is back on its feet
and is business is as usual

USA...world's most developed nation
India...JUST A DEVELOPING NATION..

oopss...did i get the last fact wrong??? Or am I
just being proud of being an INDIAN
Ok guys. Stop making up things. It wasnt the rains that drwoned new orleans. It was becuase a Lake broke into the city. Its one big @$$ lake. It has frreghliners and oil tankers going all the way into it. So the logic says that it had enough water to drown a city, 6-8 feet under sea level.

What happened in New Orleans wasnt expected. They were prepared for the storm destrying the city, not the lake drowning it. Even two days after the storm, people were saying thak god New Orleans dodged the bullet.

USA has its own problems. A large chunk of its troops are deployed overseas. The government majorly runs on loans borrowed from foreign governements. It was difficult bringing the two together, just in time, for a calamity of this size.

I really do not see why people say "I am proud to be Indian," at the drop of a hat. Give me one good reason, why we should be proud. OUr political system stinks. Just becuase our guys in bangalore can write wending machine codes, and kids in Gurgaon can sell calling cards, doesnt make India that kind of bullish economy either. Just imagine where would our economy go, if countries like UK and US stop buying our services. Hamendra bhai, if you ever get a chance, come and look at things here. The standard of living is mind boggling. And people have some really good reasons to be proud to be American. While some are proud because their govt. kicks @$$, others understand hwo hard every generation has worked to bring America where it is today. India has a lot of weaknesses, and its way to go before we can say we are proud of it. Dont compare yourself with Pakistan. Compare yourself with Japan, Germany and Italy. We all started off together around the same time in the 1940s. And those other countries were razed to ground after the war. They started from scratch. While we had a head start for all the infrastructure the British left behind. I look at India as a sorry debacle. I am glad I am out of there. But I want to do something. Because I look at things practically, as I dont wear rose colored glasses and say the sky is clear.

Lets not say htings that provoke each other, and strictly adhere to the topic of discussion.

[mukeshkumar007]

What happened in New Orleans wasnt expected.

Well, what happened in India due to Tsunami and what happened in Gujrat due to earthquake and what gone in mumbai due to rain was expected :confused: :confused: yehi kehna chate hai kya aap?

Give me one good reason, why we should be proud. OUr political system stinks. Just becuase our guys in bangalore can write wending machine codes, and kids in Gurgaon can sell calling cards, doesnt make India that kind of bullish economy either. Just imagine where would our economy go, if countries like UK and US stop buying our services. Hamendra bhai, if you ever get a chance, come and look at things here. The standard of living is mind boggling.

We are India this is why I proud to be an Indian I don't think that one has need to give any reason for this. aur bhai saab agar UK and US apni service karidna band kar denge na to wo bi bhooke marenge....koi ahesan nahi kar rehe hai wo, is hath se le and us hath se de... isi sidant par chal reha hai yeh sab kuch....... :( .whatever you have written is completely out of facts and figures. We are happy with our standars of living. We have nothing to do with their standards of living. We are much able to decide how we have to live. SO HAME BATANE KI KOI JARURAT NAHI HAI.........

I look at India as a sorry debacle. I am glad I am out of there. But I want to do something. Because I look at things practically, as I dont wear rose colored glasses and say the sky is clear.
YOU DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING FOR INDIA. MUJHE LAGTA HAI AAP KUCH JYADA HI PRACTICAL HO GAYE HAI... APNI YEH PRACTICAL THEORY APNE PASS HI RAKHA KARO.............

Lets not say htings that provoke each other, and strictly adhere to the topic of discussion.
APNE BHOOT SAHI LIKHA HAI NA... :(

[rkumar]

Ok guys. Stop making up things. It wasnt the rains that drwoned new orleans. It was becuase a Lake broke into the city. Its one big @$$ lake. It has frreghliners and oil tankers going all the way into it. So the logic says that it had enough water to drown a city, 6-8 feet under sea level.

What happened in New Orleans wasnt expected. They were prepared for the storm destrying the city, not the lake drowning it. Even two days after the storm, people were saying thak god New Orleans dodged the bullet.

USA has its own problems. A large chunk of its troops are deployed overseas. The government majorly runs on loans borrowed from foreign governements. It was difficult bringing the two together, just in time, for a calamity of this size.

I really do not see why people say "I am proud to be Indian," at the drop of a hat. Give me one good reason, why we should be proud. OUr political system stinks. Just becuase our guys in bangalore can write wending machine codes, and kids in Gurgaon can sell calling cards, doesnt make India that kind of bullish economy either. Just imagine where would our economy go, if countries like UK and US stop buying our services. Hamendra bhai, if you ever get a chance, come and look at things here. The standard of living is mind boggling. And people have some really good reasons to be proud to be American. While some are proud because their govt. kicks @$$, others understand hwo hard every generation has worked to bring America where it is today. India has a lot of weaknesses, and its way to go before we can say we are proud of it. Dont compare yourself with Pakistan. Compare yourself with Japan, Germany and Italy. We all started off together around the same time in the 1940s. And those other countries were razed to ground after the war. They started from scratch. While we had a head start for all the infrastructure the British left behind. I look at India as a sorry debacle. I am glad I am out of there. But I want to do something. Because I look at things practically, as I dont wear rose colored glasses and say the sky is clear.

Lets not say htings that provoke each other, and strictly adhere to the topic of discussion.

Bhai Dahiya,

Like they made USA great, our forefathers also had made India great many times during history. There was a time when India was one of the strongest economy on the Earth and we Indians made it. We were rapped mercilessly by the same very Europeans and left by roadside. It has taken time to get up and put our dress in place...Just watch...we will make it happen again...Thank God we lost everything, but pride still remains...There is nothing that everything is great in USA or Europe and everything is bad in India..Both sides have enough to clean.. The way they were rapping and looting in New Orelanes, did not happen in India or else where in Asia..No one went hungry in India during such disasters...

RK^2

[mukeshkumar007]

Bhai Dahiya,

There is nothing that everything is great in USA or Europe and everything is bad in India..Both sides have enough to clean.. The way they were rapping and looting in New Orelanes, did not happen in India or else where in Asia..No one went hungry in India during such disasters...

RK^2

Lakin yeh baat Dahiya shaab ko nahi dikh rehi hai na. inki to ankho par Gandhari ki tehre kali pati bandi huwi hai... :( isliye inhe USA ke alawa kuch bi nahi dikai deta hai

[devdahiya]

Ok guys. Stop making up things. It wasnt the rains that drwoned new orleans. It was becuase a Lake broke into the city. Its one big @$$ lake. It has frreghliners and oil tankers going all the way into it. So the logic says that it had enough water to drown a city, 6-8 feet under sea level.

What happened in New Orleans wasnt expected. They were prepared for the storm destrying the city, not the lake drowning it. Even two days after the storm, people were saying thak god New Orleans dodged the bullet.

USA has its own problems. A large chunk of its troops are deployed overseas. The government majorly runs on loans borrowed from foreign governements. It was difficult bringing the two together, just in time, for a calamity of this size.

I really do not see why people say "I am proud to be Indian," at the drop of a hat. Give me one good reason, why we should be proud. OUr political system stinks. Just becuase our guys in bangalore can write wending machine codes, and kids in Gurgaon can sell calling cards, doesnt make India that kind of bullish economy either. Just imagine where would our economy go, if countries like UK and US stop buying our services. Hamendra bhai, if you ever get a chance, come and look at things here. The standard of living is mind boggling. And people have some really good reasons to be proud to be American. While some are proud because their govt. kicks @$$, others understand hwo hard every generation has worked to bring America where it is today. India has a lot of weaknesses, and its way to go before we can say we are proud of it. Dont compare yourself with Pakistan. Compare yourself with Japan, Germany and Italy. We all started off together around the same time in the 1940s. And those other countries were razed to ground after the war. They started from scratch. While we had a head start for all the infrastructure the British left behind. I look at India as a sorry debacle. I am glad I am out of there. But I want to do something. Because I look at things practically, as I dont wear rose colored glasses and say the sky is clear.

Lets not say htings that provoke each other, and strictly adhere to the topic of discussion.



FEEL FREE TO FEEL,WHAT YOU FEEL ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS BUDDY. BUT For the sake of mutual respect and principle of Co-Existance, spare others from your single track so called practical thinking please. I still and will always Feel and i am proud to feel that " INDIA IS THE BEST COUNTRY AS PER ME" Let us discuss out in friendly manner and let others get benefitted by the heavy BRAIN CURRENTOOZING OUT FROM ALL DIRECTIONS.

[dahiyarules]

Mukesh Mere yaar !

Tu to kuch zyada hee senti ho gaya.

You know something. A lot of people really care for India, thats why we are so pissed off. I really have a tough time sometimes, enjoying the few good things I have in my life. Images of unprovided people in India run through my mind. I remember going to see "Swades" last year. There were some scenes, that I could rlate to personally. I remeber visiting some really desitute Jat farmers, with my Grand father. My Grandfather is a retired Colonel, and decided to settle down in his village (Kheri Asra) after retirement. So hes fairly well off compared to most other people in his villlage. He lends money and other help to the needy in his village. So sometimes the poor guys didnt have enough to pay back their loan on time. But when we would go there, money was never the reason for how we were treated or respected. "Khattirdari" is a completely separate theme. Its the things that dont ahve a monetary value that bind us together with love. And that love stings, when we see these people who we love and care for, are in desparate need of help. Poor destitute pople begging at stop signals and railway platforms, or selling water during summer are a common sight. And when all this goes through my mind in a flash, it leave a big "?" behind. Was I lucky, or was I selfish and self centered that I got out of there. But if I didnt leave what would I have been doing there. I was a total failure. Even though I passed ym high school with good grades and got into osme really reputed programs in Delhi UNiversity, I dropped out not once but thrice. First year I dropped out of College of Business Studies. Second year I dropped out of Bachelor of Info. Tech. program at Khalsa College. This year I appeared for BCOM pass correspondence. I didnt wait for the results. Before the fourth year set in I left India. Now I am about to graduate with degrees in finance and economics form not one of the best, but from one of the good schools here in the US. I am a Honors student, and am also on the Dean's list. Next year I hope to get an internship with an investment banking firm. One day I will be an investment banker. Now compare the two situations. What was better for me. What I am doing now, or what I was doing in India. Pride has to have a reason. I am not proud of what I did. But I am proud of what I am doing.

Dekh dost, dil pe nahin lene ka. There are a lot of highly motivated jats settled overseas. This website pools in our resources. We are networking with each other to push our community to greater heights. And the overall effects are going to be felt back home. Sending back money is not the solution. We have to setup enterprises and create wealth crating opportunities. We have to give our youth a reason to not to drop out of school, because there would be an opportunity out there waiting for them.

And as Kalkhande Sir said, India has had a glorious past. We are working hard to get it all back. Socialism held us back for some time. Ever since our conomy has sarted opening up, better things arehappening back home. Compare the India of 2005 with the India of 1985 or 1975. The best thing to have happened with me was that I got a chance to personally know some very highly educated and experienced indiaviduals. Their ideas move a lot of people. When I am in their company, I feel like Alexander in the company of Aristotle.

Whatever. Dont ver feel like I am or for the matter of fact, any other Jat bhai or Behen, who livs here lives in the seventh sk, and completely disconnected from India or from reality. We all care, and we feel bad thats why we cry.

You are a very smart guy. I love your posts. I wish I could learn more from you. Keep the motivation high bro. Email me at mailme@sumitdahiya.com and keep in touch. I am sorry to have offended you. I hope it doesnt happen again.

[haritta]

Mukesh my friend you are very bright youngman. I have enjoyed reading your posts and never thought you would react the way you did. Just remember if you want to be a leader or lets say you want people to follow your suggestions then never repeat never get " PROVOKED" by any views that come across. Just remember no culuture is superior then other by same token no country in the world is superior then other its the peoples thinking or views have made it so. Kalkhande sahib is right its only a question of time. So is Sumit it is taking longer then it should. Why? The system is failure thats all. More interested about chairs. Sad but fact and dont react to this one it is true and you know it in your heart its the politicians who are responsible. Why more so now as politics is the biggest business in india today. Tell me one politician who has stayed long enough isn't rolling in money. Thats why i call it is a business. Stay calm send me an email we can talk about this at length or if you have time we can meet in one of my visits to India I can see lot of potential in you to do good for jat community. good luck for your convention.

[anujkumar]

Mukesh Mere yaar !

Tu to kuch zyada hee senti ho gaya.

You know something. A lot of people really care for India, thats why we are so pissed off. I really have a tough time sometimes, enjoying the few good things I have in my life. Images of unprovided people in India run through my mind. I remember going to see "Swades" last year. There were some scenes, that I could rlate to personally. I remeber visiting some really desitute Jat farmers, with my Grand father. My Grandfather is a retired Colonel, and decided to settle down in his village (Kheri Asra) after retirement. So hes fairly well off compared to most other people in his villlage. He lends money and other help to the needy in his village. So sometimes the poor guys didnt have enough to pay back their loan on time. But when we would go there, money was never the reason for how we were treated or respected. "Khattirdari" is a completely separate theme. Its the things that dont ahve a monetary value that bind us together with love. And that love stings, when we see these people who we love and care for, are in desparate need of help. Poor destitute pople begging at stop signals and railway platforms, or selling water during summer are a common sight. And when all this goes through my mind in a flash, it leave a big "?" behind. Was I lucky, or was I selfish and self centered that I got out of there. But if I didnt leave what would I have been doing there. I was a total failure. Even though I passed ym high school with good grades and got into osme really reputed programs in Delhi UNiversity, I dropped out not once but thrice. First year I dropped out of College of Business Studies. Second year I dropped out of Bachelor of Info. Tech. program at Khalsa College. This year I appeared for BCOM pass correspondence. I didnt wait for the results. Before the fourth year set in I left India. Now I am about to graduate with degrees in finance and economics form not one of the best, but from one of the good schools here in the US. I am a Honors student, and am also on the Dean's list. Next year I hope to get an internship with an investment banking firm. One day I will be an investment banker. Now compare the two situations. What was better for me. What I am doing now, or what I was doing in India. Pride has to have a reason. I am not proud of what I did. But I am proud of what I am doing.

Dekh dost, dil pe nahin lene ka. There are a lot of highly motivated jats settled overseas. This website pools in our resources. We are networking with each other to push our community to greater heights. And the overall effects are going to be felt back home. Sending back money is not the solution. We have to setup enterprises and create wealth crating opportunities. We have to give our youth a reason to not to drop out of school, because there would be an opportunity out there waiting for them.

And as Kalkhande Sir said, India has had a glorious past. We are working hard to get it all back. Socialism held us back for some time. Ever since our conomy has sarted opening up, better things arehappening back home. Compare the India of 2005 with the India of 1985 or 1975. The best thing to have happened with me was that I got a chance to personally know some very highly educated and experienced indiaviduals. Their ideas move a lot of people. When I am in their company, I feel like Alexander in the company of Aristotle.

Whatever. Dont ver feel like I am or for the matter of fact, any other Jat bhai or Behen, who livs here lives in the seventh sk, and completely disconnected from India or from reality. We all care, and we feel bad thats why we cry.

You are a very smart guy. I love your posts. I wish I could learn more from you. Keep the motivation high bro. Email me at mailme@sumitdahiya.com and keep in touch. I am sorry to have offended you. I hope it doesnt happen again.


For fun: Some strategic suggestion to keep Jatland strife free.

1) There should be limit on number of time one can use a capital i (and lower case i alone) in a single response.

2) In sections 'current affair', and 'general talk, the number of response by a SINGLE member to a SINGLE thread should be FIXED (say 2). So that the integraty of the thread would be maintained. Every thread has as it's backbone an "issues", "event", "idea", "person" etc and a member should be a able to write all his thought in a single response. The second options should be given to clarify some very necessasoty unclear points on demand. This could result in new thread with very funny titles but would definitely put some control to the problem.

:)

[avinashnehra]

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[dahiyarules]

lets all keep living in the fools paradise. if this country wasnt that great, millions wont be staking their lives by swimming across oceans and walking accross deserts to be here.

[rkumar]

lets all keep living in the fools paradise. if this country wasnt that great, millions wont be staking their lives by swimming across oceans and walking accross deserts to be here.

Correct Sumit. However, no swim is complete till swimmer returns to the same place where from he/ she started. Enetreing Chakravayhoo is great, but coming out of it is the true measure of success....In my view greatest are those who use every possible opportunity and help India become great...

RK^2