Bhaiyo .... and tewatia ji ... if you have found my words towards narrow minded ness ... then I wish to tell you that I had neither any opinion to pull leg or to pick and comment on others post negatively .... What i shared was only my feelings and I am always open to grasp and change my views if some logical reasoning is there .... It was just in healthy direction and not in negative one ... it may be that I had my concepts wrong for the topic in discussion ....
1) Firstly I felt that Navjot is a sikh and I never found them to use CH. in front of their names. If they then I can correct myself at any good response from fellow members. I said this because I have never seen any sardar using CH. either it is Jat or non jat Sikh. Haan Jat ... Jat musalman .... bengali to karein hein ....
2) Second is whether Jats, Jat-Sikh are different. I would in that case would like to collect Jat-Musalman also in this category as they are also our closest races. We are considering Jat-Sikh to be Jats only because 800-900 or so years earlier they were Jats only and then to fight against Muslims they turned to be Sikhs. Panch jatiyo ke log aae they suna hai Sikh banane ke liye ... Jat, Nae, Luhar ...baki do mein confusion hai mene. And then they have started following some different religion that is Sikh ... as said by Tewatia ji initially they were among hindus only but later they started calling Sikhism as a different religion.
And now-a-days SIKHISM is a relgion and they dont like to called as part of hindu religion. Neither I have heard any Manch-Gurudwara-Commette of SikhsJatts-Sang ... to be having any NON-SIKH JAT to be its head.
I respect all the religions and people .... no religion caste creed is inferior and other one is superior .... each and every kind of people are every where.
Only thing I like is to make our community progress and have respect for Others.
If a person believes in Jats (Either in combination of Hindu/Sikh or Hindu/Sikh/Musalman or Hindu Jats only) ... he is indirectly favouring the division itself. And if we are members here in this site, it also reveals that our heart beats for this community and we have some special feeling for this than the others ones, it might be that some will have different opinions about other castes, creeds and religions. But for sure we are titling towards Jats.
The same do I, but I feel is that there is no harm in looking and caring for your own community. I am not saying that I am having hard feelings for Sikhs or others. But If we believe in Jats then why not a bit more specific to hindu Jats (from different states of haryana, Delhi, raj, MP, Maharastra, UP and punjab (hindus) ...) as they are having some different beliefs and presently the closest ones.
If we will start including then why Sikhs only ... go a bit early to Musalim jats ... a bit more to yadavs ...Bishnois ... Burdak ji in history section have told that in Orissa and Chattisgarh also there are jats .... also like some other dear members have pointed that even in western countries there were Jutts .... like wise moving some day back we will found all relgions or castes to be the same ones. So if tomorrow they will choose Kuldeep Bishnoi to be the head then also there should be no pointing towards that or either rao Dharambir would also be a good leader ....
And if we have JatSabha of this specific hindu Jats region then I dont found myself in sink with them to chose some person who is not from this group of people to head that Manch. Choose somebody from this community .... some having talent and dont make these manchs to be a place of politics only. Even in politics there are many better faces than this Convicted Sidhu ... better to have those. If I will point again some separate debate can go on counting their lackings ... but if you are choosing a jat politician then there are many .... sajjan kumar ... Surjewala is much better open leader .... Deepender is a learned one and can prove to be much better than this ....
One Member was saying ...that we are not pointing towards the working .... haan bahut aacha kaam karya Navjot ne aate hi ... ek mahila wing banai aur uska head banaya ... Smt Verma ..... taaliyan .... aur mene apne post mein bataya ki aarakhshan ke julus mein aya tha to bahut badi badi baatein ki thi aur baad mein kabhi bolte nahi suna na hi koe aawaj uthai apani taraf se .... But these things comes later first IF IT IS A MANCH OF JATS THEN THERE SHOULD BE A JAT HEAD OF IT. You can find many better leaders in other castes and creeds too but if some people have created a manch for a community or group of people then it should be from that one only.
Ek gaam mein sarpanch usse gaam ka hona chahiye ... as he can better understand and will have more urge to work for that village than from a very friendly nearby village person to be the sarpanch of this village. halanki maan liya ki dono gaon bahut close hein ...
jaise example ke taur par .... mhara gaam kiloi mein te bassya tha 800 saal pahelyan jib ye sardar bane they ... .... and now a person from my village only will be a better choise and will have more feelings for my village than someone from kiloi ... though we aal have our linings there too ....
I welcome all posts even having different opinion to me .... and will surely my thoughts will be effected by the logical ones ...