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    Imperial History of India 700 BC to 770 AD by K P Jayaswal

    Imperial History of India by 700 BC to 770 AD K P Jayaswal

    The book:

    Imperial History of India, by K P Jayaswal in now available online at the link below

    http://www.archive.org/details/imper...toryo035289mbp


    This will be useful to readers.

    Ravi Chaudhary
    the future belongs to those who appreciate their past

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JatHistory/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ravichaudhary View Post
    Imperial History of India by 700 BC to 770 AD K P Jayaswal

    The book:

    Imperial History of India, by K P Jayaswal in now available online at the link below

    http://www.archive.org/details/imper...toryo035289mbp


    This will be useful to readers.

    Ravi Chaudhary

    Thanks!

    can you provide these books-
    1)Jat and Jutland,
    By M.S.Jindal,
    Agra, 1982.


    2)The Jats-An Ethnographic Survey (An unpublished Thesis) submitted to the Oxford University, 1962.

    By G.A.Tiemann,

    3)"On Jats of Haryana",
    By G.A.Tiemann,
    Published:in Sociologus, 18, 1968.

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    http://www.archive.org/details/imper...toryo035289mbp
    It is shows an error simply enter

    K P Jayaswal

    in the search box

    That will work

    The book will show up. It can be downloaded in PDF format

    Ravi Chaudhary
    the future belongs to those who appreciate their past

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JatHistory/

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    Kashi Prasad Jayaswal was a lawyer and a noted historian in th early twentieth century in India.

    He did much research and wrote a number of books which presented a completely different picture from that which was being painted by the colonial historians.

    He built up a picture of India’s history, for the period which had been treated as the dark age of the Indian subcontinent, the period prior to 800 CE.
    In particular he write a numbers of books”

    The Imperial History of India, Hindu Polity, The History of India from 150 Ad to 350 AD. He also wrote a numbers of papers.

    This was decried by some colonial historians and their followers.

    Along with Rahul Sankritiyayan, another great Sanskritist, he recovered and preserved many ancient manuscripts.

    One such manuscript was the Arya Manjushree Mulakap, which work is ascribed to a Tibetan Buddhist Historian, who is dated about the 8th century AD.

    Leaving the dates aside, for the dates and chronology can be questioned, the picture he built was a picture of an continuity of History in India, and that there was no dark period of history.

    From a Jat perspective he showed how the second Guptas were Jats, from the Mathura regions.

    This was not accepted by some of his contemporaries.

    However it is known that the Goth of the Guptas was Dharan , and Dharan is a Jat goth.


    His chronology was built, upon the sheet anchor of the synchronization of Alexander and Sandrkottus, who was equated the 1st Maurya Chandragupta, on the basis of similar sounding names, by the 18th century historian Jones.

    These chronologies are now being questioned, as current researchers try and reconcile the data from Indian traditions sources with other sources. That however is anther story.

    From our immediate perspective, we have thanks to the great pioneer, a mass of primary data, which can be used by us to further our researches.

    Thanks also to the internet, his work, which was not so well known, is now available to us worldwide.

    We hope more historians with the knowledge and skills of Sanskrit, Pali, etc can bring to bear their talents on this subject.



    Ravi Chaudhary
    the future belongs to those who appreciate their past

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    There has been plenty of discussion of the yahoo Jathistory group.

    see.

    Guptas were Jats- Arya Manjushri Mul Kalpa- 8th Century AD


    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JatHistory/message/2409
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    About K.P. Jayaswal

    Mahamahopadhyaya Dr. Haraprasada Sastry writes:-

    "In the eighties my European friends advised me not to touch the Rarnayana, the Mahabharata and the Puranas for the purpose of getting Indian history from them. They worked hard with coins, inscriptions, notices of foreign travellers, archaeology, sculpture, architecture for extracting chronology and history from them. In fact they studied every thing but the Puranas. But lo! Mr Pargiter and Mr. Jayaswal now produce a chronology from the Puranas themselves which agreed in the outline prepared with so much toils of nearly 150 years by Orientalists.
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    Mr.Pragiter amd Mr.Jayaswal rescued the Puranas from the disrepute in which they were placed and heightened the respect for them (Vide. J.B.O.R.S. Vol. XIV- p 325,326)"

    Pandit Kota Venkata Chelam wrote:

    'The sorriest part of the whole business is that in this fanciful reconstruction of the history of ancient India almost every source of information has been used except the most direct and valuable ones, namely the historical material contained in the sanscrit Itihasas and Puranas. Scholars, with an infinite deal of labour, hunted out referencres to India in the stray scribblings of Greeks and Romans. in Ceylonese traditions, Chinese travellers' tales, Tibetan gossip, Assyrian remains; they searched in every region from China to Peru other than India itself, till at a late date they tried to find confirmation, and only confirmation, of preconceived theories in Indian "archaelogical evidences" as conventionally interpreted by themselves.

    K.P. Jayaswal published a study on "Historical Data in Garga Samhita ( Journal of the Bihar and Orissa Society 1928, Vol. XIV. Part III. pp. 397-408). Pandit Chelam made a critical study of the same and some of his comments are as follows:

    1. The chapter entitled "Yuga Purana" could not have been the work of Vriddha Garga. There is no place for such historical material in a tretise on Astronomical Science. No astronomer, historian or Pauranica mentions it.

    2. K.P. Jayawal makes the misleading statement " The work has been quoted by Varahamihira as an established authority", relying on the authority of Dr. Kern, but has not cared to verify the correctness of the statements by reference to the text of Varahamihira's Brihatsamhita. Varaha-mihira quoted profusely from the astronomical portions of Garga Samhita but never, not even one sentence, from the alleged historical chapter in it, the Yuga-purana.

    3. K.P. Jayaswal asserts that the Kaliyuga ended in the 2nd century B.C.(Vide. J.B.O.R.S. Vol.XIV p.417).
    It is not true. It is not a statement made with any knowledge of any basis for it. He alleges that it is stated in the Puranas; nowhere it is stated in the Puranas. Prehaps, he relied implicitly and blindly on the biased and interested statements of foreign historians and their Indian followers.

    4. Sri Jayaswal, in his innocence, natural to the Hindu mentality, accepts this Yugapurana as authentic and endeavours to determine the exact dates of the Saka and Yavana invasions menthioned therein, on account of his inability to detect the composition as, in the main, a forgery concocted in the 19th century A.D. and not at all the work of Vriddha Garga of revered memory.

    5. Vriddha Garga composed his Garga Samhita in pure classical Sanskrit. But the language of this Yuga-purana is a curious mixture of Sanskrit and Prakrit. Sri Jayaswal suspects it might have been, even originally, composed in Prakrit or a mixture of Prakrit and Sanskrit and asserts that it could not have been in pure Sanskrit. " The text bears unmistakable traces of Prakritisms, and it seems that the original was either in pure Prakrit or in mixed Sanskrit and Prakrit. It seems that a text thoroughly correct from the Sanskrit point of view is not to be expected".(Vide J.B.O.R.S. Vol. XIV p 328)

    6. It is strange that Indian historical scholars of the eminence of Sri. K.P.Jayaswal and Prof. K.H.Dhruva should take this concoction for and authentic Purana,interpret it in conformity with the false history of ancient Bharat which they had imbibed from the European Orientalists and published it as a historical document.
    His( Sri Jayaswal's) interpretation of the text in general, and in particular, his identification of the Saka and Yavana princes, his determination of the time of composition of the Yuga-purana, or the reigns of the kings mentioned in it, are all incorrect and unacceptable.

    7. There is no other final and reliable authority for the ancient history of Bharat except the Puranas. Even the wrong history of ancient Bharat fabricated by the western Orientalists is based mainly on the lists of the kings of the Magadha given in our Puranas. The Puranic chronology is based on the Maha-Bharata war of 3138 B.C., as the starting point for reckoning time.

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    Mr. Prasad, I am pretty sketical in considering the unbiased nature of the puranas 's authors. Countless unbelieveable stories have been cited in puranas. Yarns of imaginations had been spun and furnished to the people . Most of the ignornat people fell prey to their myths. In all of the purans brahmins and others, who accepted their myths and pampered them, have been glorified, Rest of the people have been snubbed and addressed as shudra, mlechhas etc. We all know who are authors of these puranas?. Now let me know how can someone rely on this biased nature of the puranas?. Puranas are not the light of wisdom but a pit of darkness in my view.
    Become more and more innocent, less knowledgeable and more childlike. Take life as fun - because that's precisely what it is!

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    If we are to totally reject the Puranas , as a source for the ancient history of the Indian subcontinent,some suggestions may please be made as to where should we look?

    Let us not make this a Caste discussion. It is a history question!

    Ravi Chaudhary
    the future belongs to those who appreciate their past

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JatHistory/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ravichaudhary View Post
    If we are to totally reject the Puranas , as a source for the ancient history of the Indian subcontinent,some suggestions may please be made as to where should we look?

    Let us not make this a Caste discussion. It is a history question!

    Ravi Chaudhary
    Ravi ji, I didn't ask you or anyone else to reject puranas at all. I am just giving my opinion about the biased amd unbiased nature of puranas. I find them lopsided. I just expressed my views and i don't see any harm in that. If you still find that objectionable, remove that post. But it's not history it's caste/tribe history we are searching for.
    Become more and more innocent, less knowledgeable and more childlike. Take life as fun - because that's precisely what it is!

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    Bias is there in all writers/historians.

    The ability and proof of a good researcher is the ability to go beyond the bias.

    A difficult task

    Ravi Chaudhary
    the future belongs to those who appreciate their past

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JatHistory/

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    An Imperial History Of India (c.700 BC - c.770 AD) By K.P. Jayaswal - the Sanskrit Text, Revised by Rahul Sankrityayana

    Publisher - Motilal Banarasi Dass, The Punjab Sanskrit Book Depot, Sasdmrha, Lahore, 1934

    This complete book has been digitized and Wikified now available on Jatland Wiki at

    http://www.jatland.com/home/An_Imper...story_Of_India

    It mentions about Jat dynasty from pages 51 to 53 . I reproduce here -

    In that country, undoubtedly, (then) there will be a king a great king of Mathura Jata (जाट) (Jat = जाट) family, born of a Vaisali (वैशाली) lady (T.), originally Vaisya . He became the king of the Magadhas (758-60).

    Comments

    Owing to the name Gupta the dynasty has been considered by the author as Vaisya originally. But the author is careful to note the fact in the next verse that they were described before him (prokta) as leading Kshatriyas (kshatriyah agrani) (क्षत्रियः अग्रणी) (761).

    The invasion mentioned above refers to the Kota vs. Gupta fights for two generations.

    It is to be marked that although the king is not named, he is described as the son of the Vaisali Lady in the Tibetan text. He is said to have been a Mathura-Jata (जाट) (Sanskrit- Jata-vamsa जाट-वंस) . Jata-vam'sa, that is, Jata Dynasty stands for Jarta, that is, Jat. That the Guptas were Jat, we already have good reasons to hold (JBORS, XIX. p. 115). His Vaisali mother is the Lichchhavi lady. Evidently the ancestors of Samudra Gupta, according to this datum, once belonged to Mathura.
    Laxman Burdak

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    Excellent

    This will make the material available to all, ordinary readers as well as serious readers


    Can we do the sanskrit text as well

    Ravi Chaudhary
    the future belongs to those who appreciate their past

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JatHistory/

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    The sanskrit format of the Book by KP Jayaswal is in JPG. So we have to type the content in Mangal font. I have typed following sanskrit text and added to Jatland Wiki also in Section 38 of this book. Here is the text:

    :महादुर्भिक्षसंपातं परचक्रसमाकुलम् ।
    :प्राच्या जनपदा व्यस्ता उत्रस्ता गतमानसा ।।758।।

    :भविष्यन्ति न संदेह: तस्मिं देशे नराधिपा: ।
    :मधुरायां जातवंशाढ्य: वणिक सूर्वी नृपो वर: ।।759।।

    :सोअपि पूजितमूर्तिस्तु मागधानां नृपो भवेत (T.463b)
    :तस्याप्यनुजो भकाराख्य प्राचीं दिशि समाश्टत: ।।760।।

    :तस्यापि सुत: पकाराख्य: प्राग्देशेष्वेव जायत: ।
    :क्षत्रिय: अग्रणी प्रोक्त: बालबंधानुचारिण: ।।761।।

    see for [http://www.archive.org/stream/imperi.../n177/mode/2up Sanskrit text])
    Laxman Burdak

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