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    1962 Indo China War

    1962 INDO CHINA WAR


    Recently I gone through some papers and India’s China War by Neville Maxwell (who was South Asian correspondent of The Times) from IIM library published in 1970. By this I came to know that it was a total failure of Indian policies.

    Here is the summary of the whole instances that lead to the collision.

    Instead going directly to the War part, first let us clear the issues. What were the issues that lead to War?

    1. Aksai Chin. (It is the No-Mans land beyond Ladhakh)
    2. NEFA (North East Frontier Agency) which is the part Of Arunachal pardesh and above it.


    India and China were both having claims on these two parts. Aksai Chin is on the western part and NEFA is on the eastern.

    What is the history of these two areas? And whom claim is stronger?

    First Aksai Chin, this is the no mans land of white rocks and a plateau 17000 feet above sea level where nothing grows and no one lives under the killing winds. An ancient route lay across it; in brief summer when for few hours only the ice melts and the caravans of Yalks crossed it from Sinkiang to Tibet carrying silk ,salt and wool. So it was the no mans land having an old way to move from the Eastern Tibet to the Western Part of Tibet to Khotan. In 1846-47, Maharaja Gulab Singh who was put on the Muslim and Sikh people of Kashmir as Raja by the British invaded Ladakh and he captured up to the Mansarover lake and to the Spiti River and British asked him to stop there. At that time Russia was the main threat in that reason for the British and they don’t want the Russians to stop beyond the China to protect the plains of India those were the main source of income to British. For this British played a tactics and had friendly relations with the weak govt. of china that time and used this region as the buffer region.

    Several British went to this area to make the boundary line and each of them proposed their own lines e.g. W.H Johnson. The British kept on changing the maps depending on the situation in that region and in 1842 they showed it in their territory and in 50’s again left it, in 1877 Atlas they showed it again under them and again till 1914, it was left to please China. As in 1914 the Chinese Govt. was very loose and Tibet became sovereign region, British again claimed that region and also now Tibet was under British but only for the foreign policies.

    In 1842 when British did a treaty with the Tibet officials and not with the Chinese govt. regarding the Western region and they forced the Tibet officials to keep it under British Territory. But the Chinese govt. had never accepted that treaty at all.

    Now for the NEFA region, The Nepal and Bhutan both were having their own Rule but they were bound to the British for their Foreign policies. Sikkim and Darjeeling were taken by the British from Tibet because of their climate and natural beauty. There is Tawang having a great Monastery and Buddhist population overall in that region full of thick forests and here in 1844 British restrict themselves at Udalguri that is lower down the hills of Tawang region. Again here British didn’t invade so as to please the Chinese. In this region also survey’s done. There were two boundaries proposed one is at the foot of the hills and the other one was above. British were angry at the killing of Noel Williamson by the tribes and also when in may 1910 Chinese occupied Rima which is at the right uppermost corner of Arunachal. They decided to occupy up to outer boundary but that also was not having Tawang under it. Later MacMohan in 1914 surveyed that area and proposed the boundary that is shown in the Indian maps these days and also known as MacMohan line. And After the fall of Chinese govt. in 1914 and arise of the Tibet as a sovereign region British again had a treaty with the Tibet officials now for the NEFA and they agreed upon the MacMohan line to be the boundary. The Tawang region as it was totally Tibetian by people, Culture and geographically also so in 1938 Atlas, British showed it as part of Tibet. Here one thing to be noted that Chinese govt. was never agreed upon this new marking of the region and claims that area up till foot hills to be its own but due to week govt. they couldn’t did anything.

    At the time of Indian freedom, India got Tibet which was dependent on India for her foreign policies, same as Bhutan.

    People’s Republic of china was established on 1st Oct. 1950 and soon after that they announced attack on Tibet and to take it under china again. Here comes the week policy of Nehru first time, Indian Ambassador in Tibet K.M Pannikar had exchanged files with the Chinese there and Chinese soon take over Tibet. That time Truman even asked Nehru to provide all possible Air and field help to take Tibet under full control. Sardar Vallabh Bhai Patel who was deputy prime minister wrote NEHRU a long letter in Nov. 1950; he implied that Pannikar had had the wool pulled over his eyes by the Chinese whom he accused of perfidy and malevolence for changing the word “sovereignty” to “Suzerainty” and not even holding the independent status of Tibet.

    Now Indian Govt. occupied the NEFA region full to the MacMohan line in Feb. 1951 and even captured Tawang despite of opposing by the civilians and providing direct notice to Tibet and not the Chinese who had now taken Tibet under them.

    1. In Sept. 1951 Chou En lie suggested the Indian ambassador to clarify all the boundaries with India, Nepal and china and further confirmed that china is willing to accept MacMohan line as the boundary in the east but for that first of all a joint survey and discussion on bench is required. Indian govt. accepted but never followed.


    2. China in July 1952 again proposed to fix any pending boundary issues. Mr. G.S Bajpai India’s first Secretary-General wrote a letter to PM stating that there are some issue related to the boundaries in Aksai Chin and NEFA that Chinese govt. had never accepted as they had been between the Tibet and British and not with China. So it’s better to talk to China once as they are now ready to accept the MacMohan line also. But the think tank of NEHRU – Krishna Menon refused badly and it was decided that nothing would be discussed with China related to the NEFA as they felt that they are at better position now and after that they have to leave some parts to China.


    3. After the death of Sardar Patel, author told that the whole govt. was NEHRU, MENON and later KAUL joined them. And these three took each and every decision without even consulting the cabinet and even sometimes they didn’t call the panel of Home minister and other senior leaders like Kriplani and lalbahadur.

    4. BK Nehru was Ambassador in US (cousin of Nehru) and one more cousin RK Nehru was Sec. Gen. of ministry of external affairs. KAUL was a military person who once gone to Burma with army and never had any experience of wars and enjoying the friendship and power in Delhi.

    5. NEHRU is well known for its PanchSheel which he introduced after coming from Indonesia and originally he took two rules out of these from the foreign policy of China itself.

    6. Up till 1954 Sikkim was not part of Indian Constitution though it was shown in Indian map of that time; this was accepted by Congress in 1967.

    7. Indian Map in 1954 now showed the MacMohan line as Indian boundary in East and in west they showed a color wash instead of any particular boundary in that region as Indian territory, means included the Aksai Chin but without and specific boundary and the same case in some areas with Nepal.

    8. The most advance post in the west region was chusul and in 1952 Indian petrol was sent only up to Lanak Pass.

    9. NEHRU gave a slogan of HINDI CHINI BHAI-BHAI and had friendship with Chou En Lie according to PanchSheel.

    10. July 1954, when army asked about the scene of the disputed boundary near to Himachal, Nepal and china border then the think tank asked them to move forward and so in 1954 Indians rushed into disputed boundary.


    11. Author tells that Nehru was “a poor debater, his speeches too long and more like soliloquies than communications, he was a parliamentarian by commitment and not by temperament. Enjoying his dominance in house. ‘Childish’ and ‘infantile’ were favorite words to rebuke the other members. But was afraid of Kriplani and the left leaders during 1957 when kriplani was in opposition as he left congress.


    12. In Sept. 1957 the Indian Ambassador in peeking sent a magazine showing some road in Aksai Chin part build by China. Now Nehru Came out of sleep and in 1958 only India Formally claimed Aksai chin as part of India.

    13. Interestingly China claimed that even in the Discovery of India Written by Nehru in 1946. He himself had not included Sikkim and NEFA in India.

    14. Here one thing to be noted that Nehru was such a big liar that according to the Author he hides many things from the parliament and even lies about the conversation between him and Chou En Lie which were later came out of his letters. The same he did when He was aware and knowingly let the march of Chinese army from Eastern to Western Tibet through so called Indian Aksai Chin in 1953. For 4 years he had hidden this thing from the parliament.

    15. He wrote even a single telegram by himself in that period being a single man foreign ministry.

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    16. During this friendship period NEHRU and CHOU EN LIE both visited each other countries and both were given great regard.

    17. In 1956 during their meeting Chou En Lie again raised the Mac Mohan Line issue by telling that they had accepted MacMohan line as boundary with Burma and now he wants to accept it with India and so have a discussion on table on that also. This time again Nehru escaped.

    18. In 1959 China attacked Tibet Lama and Dalai Lama from the NEFA region run into India and India accepted him and provided DharamShala as his place to establish his territory.


    19. Nehru’s diplomatic knowledge can be judged by this statement only. In Sept. 1959 in LokSabha he openly told that,” MacMohan line is by and large fixed except in some parts in Subansiri area and some where varied by us. Even before the war he openly stated that China cannot do such being India not so strong”.


    20. By the autumn 1959 Indian troops despite of Chinese opposition fired at them and captured Longju, Migyitum, Tamaden and Khuzemane and established posts there.

    21. By this time the pressure in parliament and election made NEHRU a different person and now he started openly saying that Chou cheated him.


    22. Looking back at the Indian Scene, Menon and Kaul created such situations that General Thimayya was forced to resign. After that General ManekShaw was blamed and enquiry was applied on him.


    23. Overall Letters are there even just before the war China asked to settle disputes and they were openly saying that they can apply the status quo (means jo jahan hai wahan rahe but Nehru and his team never gone on table with them for these issues and now NEHRU in the pressure of elections made sharp and volatile statements that We will not give and inch to China and a great hatred environment was created against China in India. Nehru again won by majority).


    24. Now comes the time of 8th Sept. 1962 Nehru was out in common wealth PM’s conference in London and Kaul was away in Kashmir on long leaves even in such tensed situation. And back in Delhi now PM was MENON. Menon on his own called up a meeting (ha ha not of the cabinet and congress leaders) but of SS Khera Cabinet sec. SC sarin and one official Malik. He solely took decision of Eviction and appointed KAUL as the leader in Command bye passing ManekShaw and other seniors than KAUL and it was clear that KAUL has no experience.


    25. KAUL immediately called up but he didn’t listen to Menon and he was only brought back after NEHRU came back. He joined Tejpur to command.

    The placement of battalions was as follows:

    1. On the Namka Chu : 9 Punjab, plus one company of two Rajput.

    2. At lumpu : HQ 7 Brigade and 2 companies of Rajput,1/9 Gorkha rifles and a troop of heavy mortar and remainder of machine gun company.

    3. At Tawang : 1 Sikh + 4 Garhwal rifles + 4 artillery brigade.

    4. Rest of NEFA: under 5 infantry Brigade.

    5. 5 JAT infantry was posted in the front in Ladakh.



    General Umrao Singh of XXXIII corps and Brigadier Dalvi were leading there and they were very well aware of the situation. Umrao Singh even went back to Lacknow and asked them to reverse or stop the order of Eviction as the situation was totally against them. He had written back to HQ and Ministry but he was not listened. Also adding to this during 1959 crush military demanded of ammunition but NEHRU denied directly that the foreign exchange is very short and they can’t afford.


    Umrao Singh was not listened and plans were to shift him back to some other post near to East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) but later orders cancelled as his full battalion was there.

    When General Prasad and Sen ordered of Eviction Brig. Dalvi told the same as Umrao. According to Dalvi, Prasad told him in Lumphu, “Look here Old boy, no one is interested in your bloody appreciation. They only interested in your D-Day for eviction the Chinese”

    The operation was Named Leghorn and they were willing to launch it by Oct. 10. The 7th brigade were having 50 rounds per man and in summer clothing and only one blanket during that winter season. Ammunition and ration was dropped by air but due to bad weather and area only 30% was picked. When Dalvi told Kaul about this Kaul barked on him, “Either picks the rest or Starve”.

    Kaul after his air round and looking the situations on the posts went back to Delhi to request NEHRU personally on night 11th Oct. but again Menon and others asked him to go and carry on the operation at the earliest. All were concentrating only on the eastern part and assuming that China will not attack on the western part. This was later accepted by Nehru in Parliament.

    War begun and by 25th Oct Tawang was in hands of China in the east and in west on 27th they took Demchok.

    Now can you guess where KAUL was? He got bronchitis at once after 4 days of clash and was back to Tejpur and then Delhi and Commanding on Phone from his Delhi residence.

    Also after that IV corps got their new commander l-General Harbaksh Singh, Prasad was replaced by General A S Pathania and 62 Birgade was given to JAT Brigadier Hoshier Singh Rathi (Sankhol Wale) who was at BomDi La.

    Truth was put forward by General Thimayya when he said, “Every Sepoy in the Army knows that Kaul has never been a combat soldier, you can’t hide that sort of thing in army”. On the other hand our Great PM CHACHA NEHRU JI told in parliament,” I want to mention his name especially because quite extraordinarily unjust things have seen about him. Some people say that he had not experience of fighting. That is not correct.

    Kaul was back to Tejpur on Oct 28th. Each and every Indian Soldier fought bravely lacking full clothes, half ration and even ammunition under the command of good generals now e.g. Brig. KK singh, Dalvi, Umrao Singh, Hoshier Singh and Pathania.

    Mahan JAT:


    When Pathania proposed withdrawal from Se La, Hoshier Singh Protested that his troops could hold out and the gorkhas were also with them to block the Chinese. But Pathania’s reports also were found unmatching after the war?? Though Hoshier Singh denied withdrawing but under pressure he starts withdrawal and told that it would be disastrous to do it. Wahi hua jo JAT ne kaha tha ….. Chinese attacked by machine guns and the only Party who tried to knock out the Guns was that of Our JAT Leader Hoshier Singh but failed lacking strength. And after a brave fight, this great Soldier Shot Dead at Phutang on November 27th.


    After reaching the foot hills China herself declared Cease Fire and by December 8 – 15th were back to their original position but they remained the same in west.

    After that Lady Bhandarnaeke of Ceylone(Srilanka) become mediator and even at that time China called a table conf. and written a letter to PM to finalize the boundary disputes but again NEHRU said that first CHINA should withdraw the forces from Aksai Chin and long back to upper MacMohan then only he will talk.

    Still now it is unresolved and INDIA is showing both of them in her territory. Aksai Chin is totally in china now and Do not know what is the situation in the East??

    This is how INDIA was controlled and ruled by three people up till 1962 (NEHRU, MENON and KAUL).


    According to defense ministry released figures:

    Killed: 1383
    Missing: 1696
    Captured: 3968

    UN SAB VIRON KO SAT - SAT PRANAM


    [ Please correct if anywhere found something ambiguous ]
    Last edited by jitendershooda; September 6th, 2005 at 08:54 PM.

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    Thanx For The Update

    Quote Originally Posted by jitendershooda
    16. During this friendship period NEHRU and CHOU EN LIE both visited each other countries and both were given great regard.

    17. In 1956 during their meeting Chou En Lie again raised the Mac Mohan Line issue by telling that they had accepted MacMohan line as boundary with Burma and now he wants to accept it with India and so have a discussion on table on that also. This time again Nehru escaped.

    18. In 1959 China attacked Tibet Lama and Dalai Lama from the NEFA region run into India and India accepted him and provided DharamShala as his place to establish his territory.


    19. Nehru’s diplomatic knowledge can be judged by this statement only. In Sept. 1959 in LokSabha he openly told that,” MacMohan line is by and large fixed except in some parts in Subansiri area and some where varied by us. Even before the war he openly stated that China cannot do such being India not so strong”.


    20. By the autumn 1959 Indian troops despite of Chinese opposition fired at them and captured Longju, Migyitum, Tamaden and Khuzemane and established posts there.

    21. By this time the pressure in parliament and election made NEHRU a different person and now he started openly saying that Chou cheated him.


    22. Looking back at the Indian Scene, Menon and Kaul created such situations that General Thimayya was forced to resign. After that General ManekShaw was blamed and enquiry was applied on him.


    23. Overall Letters are there even just before the war China asked to settle disputes and they were openly saying that they can apply the status quo (means jo jahan hai wahan rahe but Nehru and his team never gone on table with them for these issues and now NEHRU in the pressure of elections made sharp and volatile statements that We will not give and inch to China and a great hatred environment was created against China in India. Nehru again won by majority).


    24. Now comes the time of 8th Sept. 1962 Nehru was out in common wealth PM’s conference in London and Kaul was away in Kashmir on long leaves even in such tensed situation. And back in Delhi now PM was MENON. Menon on his own called up a meeting (ha ha not of the cabinet and congress leaders) but of SS Khera Cabinet sec. SC sarin and one official Malik. He solely took decision of Eviction and appointed KAUL as the leader in Command bye passing ManekShaw and other seniors than KAUL and it was clear that KAUL has no experience.


    25. KAUL immediately called up but he didn’t listen to Menon and he was only brought back after NEHRU came back. He joined Tejpur to command.

    The placement of battalions was as follows:

    1. On the Namka Chu : 9 Punjab, plus one company of two Rajput.

    2. At lumpu : HQ 7 Brigade and 2 companies of Rajput,1/9 Gorkha rifles and a troop of heavy mortar and remainder of machine gun company.

    3. At Tawang : 1 Sikh + 4 Garhwal rifles + 4 artillery brigade.

    4. Rest of NEFA: under 5 infantry Brigade.

    5. 5 JAT infantry was posted in the front in Ladakh.



    General Umrao Singh of XXXIII corps and Brigadier Dalvi were leading there and they were very well aware of the situation. Umrao Singh even went back to Lacknow and asked them to reverse or stop the order of Eviction as the situation was totally against them. He had written back to HQ and Ministry but he was not listened. Also adding to this during 1959 crush military demanded of ammunition but NEHRU denied directly that the foreign exchange is very short and they can’t afford.


    Umrao Singh was not listened and plans were to shift him back to some other post near to East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) but later orders cancelled as his full battalion was there.

    When General Prasad and Sen ordered of Eviction Brig. Dalvi told the same as Umrao. According to Dalvi, Prasad told him in Lumphu, “Look here Old boy, no one is interested in your bloody appreciation. They only interested in your D-Day for eviction the Chinese”

    The operation was Named Leghorn and they were willing to launch it by Oct. 10. The 7th brigade were having 50 rounds per man and in summer clothing and only one blanket during that winter season. Ammunition and ration was dropped by air but due to bad weather and area only 30% was picked. When Dalvi told Kaul about this Kaul barked on him, “Either picks the rest or Starve”.

    Kaul after his air round and looking the situations on the posts went back to Delhi to request NEHRU personally on night 11th Oct. but again Menon and others asked him to go and carry on the operation at the earliest. All were concentrating only on the eastern part and assuming that China will not attack on the western part. This was later accepted by Nehru in Parliament.

    War begun and by 25th Oct Tawang was in hands of China in the east and in west on 27th they took Demchok.

    Now can you guess where KAUL was? He got bronchitis at once after 4 days of clash and was back to Tejpur and then Delhi and Commanding on Phone from his Delhi residence.

    Also after that IV corps got their new commander l-General Harbaksh Singh, Prasad was replaced by General A S Pathania and 62 Birgade was given to JAT Brigadier Hoshier Singh Rathi (Sankhol Wale) who was at BomDi La.

    Truth was put forward by General Thimayya when he said, “Every Sepoy in the Army knows that Kaul has never been a combat soldier, you can’t hide that sort of thing in army”. On the other hand our Great PM CHACHA NEHRU JI told in parliament,” I want to mention his name especially because quite extraordinarily unjust things have seen about him. Some people say that he had not experience of fighting. That is not correct.

    Kaul was back to Tejpur on Oct 28th. Each and every Indian Soldier fought bravely lacking full clothes, half ration and even ammunition under the command of good generals now e.g. Brig. KK singh, Dalvi, Umrao Singh, Hoshier Singh and Pathania.

    Mahan JAT:


    When Pathania proposed withdrawal from Se La, Hoshier Singh Protested that his troops could hold out and the gorkhas were also with them to block the Chinese. But Pathania’s reports also were found unmatching after the war?? Though Hoshier Singh denied withdrawing but under pressure he starts withdrawal and told that it would be disastrous to do it. Wahi hua jo JAT ne kaha tha ….. Chinese attacked by machine guns and the only Party who tried to knock out the Guns was that of Our JAT Leader Hoshier Singh but failed lacking strength. And after a brave fight, this great Soldier Shot Dead at Phutang on November 27th.


    After reaching the foot hills China herself declared Cease Fire and by December 8 – 15th were back to their original position but they remained the same in west.

    After that Lady Bhandarnaeke of Ceylone(Srilanka) become mediator and even at that time China called a table conf. and written a letter to PM to finalize the boundary disputes but again NEHRU said that first CHINA should withdraw the forces from Aksai Chin and long back to upper MacMohan then only he will talk.

    Still now it is unresolved and INDIA is showing both of them in her territory. Aksai Chin is totally in china now and Do not know what is the situation in the East??

    This is how INDIA was controlled and ruled by three people up till 1962 (NEHRU, MENON and KAUL).


    According to defense ministry released figures:

    Killed: 1383
    Missing: 1696
    Captured: 3968

    UN SAB VIRON KO SAT - SAT PRANAM


    [ Please correct if anywhere found something ambiguous ]





    Jitu thanx for the Update. Brig. Hosiyar was a true nationalist without an iota of doubt. I too salute those brave soldiers.
    "LIFE TEACHES EVERY ONE IN A NATURAL WAY.NO ONE CAN ESCAPE THIS REALITY"

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    hooda ji thanks for sharing this information..............
    Sandeep Dahiya
    ______________
    "If you can't win don't play"

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    go through this thread

    Dear Jitendra Bhiya,
    Thanks for sharing it with us. By the way in below link there is a world (zip) file have attached in reply no.#9 about the 1962 Indo-China War. I hope you will like to read it. I found it very interesting and informative.

    http://www.jatland.com/forums/showth...Indian+History
    “Lead me, follow me or get out of my way”

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    There is a saying that the truth may not necessary be what we read and what we hear. Neville Maxwell appears to be one who was paid by Chinese to write what all he has written. Most of his writings on 1962 war is posted at the following link;

    http://www.centurychina.com/plaboard...ds/1962war.htm

    as the name of website suggests, its supported by Chinese. I wrote long back to our PM about this and requested him to instruct Ministry of External Affairs to post our own version of 1962 war on some government website. Chinese are much smarter players in diplomacy and we should accept it.

    RK^2

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkumar
    I wrote long back to our PM about this and requested him to instruct Ministry of External Affairs to post our own version of 1962 war on some government website. Chinese are much smarter players in diplomacy and we should accept it.

    RK^2
    Rajender ji aap PM/CM ne likhte raho ho, here one thing I request you to flash upon ...

    1. On what mail ids we can reach them ? e.g PM and CM of haryana. From where we can find out the mail ids of the ministers etc.
    2. Do they themselves read those mails or some assistant read them and filter. Means do these busy personalities reply to us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jitendershooda
    Rajender ji aap PM/CM ne likhte raho ho, here one thing I request you to flash upon ...

    1. On what mail ids we can reach them ? e.g PM and CM of haryana. From where we can find out the mail ids of the ministers etc.
    2. Do they themselves read those mails or some assistant read them and filter. Means do these busy personalities reply to us?
    I am not sure of CMs, but PM certainly has a mechanism where all the emails to him are printed in the guest book of his website and taken note of by appropriate person in his office.

    Haryana CM: cm@hry.nic.in, cmo@hry.nic.in

    Prime Minister: http://www.indianprimeminister.org/p....php?linkid=21

    My personal experince has been that PM offices takes note of sensible suggestions.

    Rajendra

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    Thanks for Posting it

    Dear Mr. Hooda,

    Thanks for posting it. We all know, that 1962 was a total failure of diplomacy on part of Mr. Nehru and his team. I was too young to know about the politics then, but I heard that Mr. Menon was very intelligent person and probably was made scape goat in the aftermath of 1962 debacle.

    As far as Brigadier Hoshiyar Singh Rathi is concerned, I am proud to say that I share the same gallery as this great man. He commanded my Battalion (2nd Battalion The Rajpuratna Rifles) twice. He was awarded Mahavir Chakra Postumously in 1962 and I remember was a house hold name in 1962. I also had the previlage to serve with Brig. Hoshiyar's son Lt. Col. G. S. Rathi.

    There is a lot that had been written about 1962 war. Whether this version is right or wrong we don't know, but one thing is sure, Chinese are very tough negotiators. We know for sure how they acted in Korea agains UN forces during Korean War. And if that be any indication of their way of diplomacy, I don't think that they would have invited Indian Leaders for negotiations on any acceptable terms. And if they did, then nothing is lost, if India wants Mc Mohan Line as boundry and they agree to it then there is hardly any dispute. I think cost of Aksai Chin may not be much for a prolonged peace in the region. The only question is that if we accept Aksai Chin demand of China, would that stop there? They are already claiming entire Arunanchal Pradesh as part of their territory.
    Col (Retd) Virendra Tavathia


    "A person should not be judged by the nature of his/her job, but the manner in which he/she does that".

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by raj2rif
    Dear Mr. Hooda,
    As far as Brigadier Hoshiyar Singh Rathi is concerned, I am proud to say that I share the same gallery as this great man. He commanded my Battalion (2nd Battalion The Rajpuratna Rifles) twice. He was awarded Mahavir Chakra Postumously in 1962 and I remember was a house hold name in 1962. I also had the previlage to serve with Brig. Hoshiyar's son Lt. Col. G. S. Rathi.
    Thanks a lot Tevatia ji for sharing this info .... I was just wandering about the family of Hoshiyar Singh ...its nice to found that his son was also at good rank ...

    Rajendar ji ho sakta hai ye paise kha gaya ho china walon se but i found some strength in his words as he is going day by day month by month and referring to the atlas and the letters ...even

    and if india is having some letters then they should put forward clearly the situation and should not keep parda on these ... kaya India kabhi tak aisa bana rahega ....why they are not putting forward the reality with evidences for her people.

    And thanks a lot Rajendar ji for the email details .... dekhan kime likh ke ne ...

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