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navingulia
December 28th, 2005, 12:12 PM
*** Name changed to Jan Jagriti ***

The begining of "Jat Jagriti- An Awakening"

Dear and Respected Everyone,
My trust and faith in the community's goodwill and the society's goodwill is further strengthened today. The way everybody came together to make this event a successul begining, is motivating and inspiring. I had just visited the 5 schools to inform the principal's about this event and our plan s and all of them were present at the venue in full strength and with full support. People came forward volunteeriingly and selflessly to take on various responsibilities.
A brief account of the day:-
1. We gathered together at Bahadurgarh and at 11.30am headed for the village, where we were given a warm welcome with hot Tea.
2. There after we were taken to Sidhanti Bhawan for meeting/discussion with the village elders and sarpanch. The important points brought out by village elders -
a) The unavailability of any fund in the village to do any developement work despite the current government being in place for one year. I would like to bring this point in the kind notice of Bhai Dipender Hooda.
b) Principal of the school - brought to our notice that very good students spoil their performance after 8th/9th grade in the absence of guidance. He also complained that the parents dont allow their children to be punished for mistakes and also that the parents dont allow to make the children do some community work.
c) Vaid Jee, brought out the need for moral education and promotion of work culture in students.
d) Our group members assured the people of support in improving quality of education and encouraging sports.
3. There after we were taken for the much awaited Desi Lunch - bajre ki roti, saag, chane ke patte ki chatni, bathue a raayta, churma, chawal, daal, seet
4. we went to the compound of govt girls school where the sports event were taking place. There was a huge crowd of children, young and the elderly too. The races for different age groups were con ducted. But the superhit run was that of the elderly (over 60yrs) an d it was too good, they could have competed with the 18yr olds and beaten them too.
5. There after the handball match was conducted in which some national and international players took part. The prize distribution took place in which the prizes were given away by Bhai Shailender, Priti, Ramesh Lakra and myself.
6. Ramesh gave a talk to the gathering telling them about the work we intend to do and also inpiring students to do well in their studies. I gave a small motivational talk to the children.

IMP:- I will request all members present to bring out their opinion an d feedback about what we all learnt from this event and what we should do in future to take this cause forward.
I have lot of pending work today so right now i am not adding more. I will be writing more soon.

vpsmalik
December 28th, 2005, 12:40 PM
Very nice gesture. Keep it up Navin.......You are a special human being.

jagmohan
December 28th, 2005, 12:49 PM
Dear All,

(Dear Navin: I am posting my reply in this new thread)

A good beginning and my congratulations to all those who were involved in this ice breaking and trend setting meet. The task is huge and there is no time to waste.

The key to a successful community development effort is to take everyone together without expecting anything in return. More often than not despondency sets in after a while and that is the biggest challenge. There are more reasons than one for such a stage to arrive and the foremost is having an AIM that is impractical. If the AIM is modest and targets the grass root problem, success is likely. Therefore, the aim must be well thought out and maintained at all times.

Nothing would happen till the times the villagers themselves are not convinced of the urgent need of ‘Education’ and ‘Being Equipped to Face the Challenges’. And they would be convinced only when the group wanting to make a difference is well equipped to make that difference. By being well equipped I mean that members should be able to devote time, energy, resources and money to achieve the chosen aim. It is a long haul and the results would take years. As time passes one would also realise that no amount of effort was enough and so much more could have been done. Therefore, it is important to chart out a well thought out ‘Rural Developmental Schedule’ so that it could be taken up elsewhere too as a ‘Model Project’.

I strongly believe that in order to make any progress on this front we need a group that visits the villages (better if one is from that area) and assesses the need. I can give out a few even without visiting a village: Clean drinking water, Sanitation, Primary education, English speaking, Primary health, Inoculation, Access to Markets for Agricultural Produce, Liquor, Drugs, Crime, Focus on Girl Child, Dowry, Village Politics, Alternate Energy Sources and Accountability of Panchayats.

Once the needs are assessed, the next step is to tackle them in their order of priority, as each area would have a different priority.

How to find the resources to best address each issue? Besides sincerity of purpose and will to make a difference, the most important factor that would decide the outcome of the effort would be FUNDS. However, I feel if we can all join hands even that should not be a major problem. I had given this suggestion in my village 25 years back and was laughed at but I was right because my suggestion meant sacrifices from those who had left the village for greener pastures. The suggestion is simple and I don’t mind repeating it here. Each person who has left his village and has a monthly income (Government, Private, Self-employed, Business, Thief, Dacoit, Smuggler etc etc) must make a monthly contribution in cash to a fund that should be controlled. There is no other way to do any of the above mentioned insurmountable tasks without a collective effort of this nature. If each person can contribute even 3 - 5% of his income for the betterment of his own village, we can succeed. Can we start doing so from 01 JAN 2006? No NEW YEAR RESOLUTION can be better than this? You would be surprised to know the amount of money that can be collected. Each village has at least 200, if not more, persons who are working. An average salary of Rs 20,000/- per month is taken for rough calculations. 200 people X Rs 20000 X 12 Months = Rs 4,80,00,000. And 3 - 5% of that is Rs 14,40,000/- & Rs24,00,000/- respectively (hope my calculation are right?). We can change the face of our villages in 10 years flat.

There is nothing to ponder but members may have a different view.

Regards,

JS Malik

navingulia
December 28th, 2005, 01:07 PM
Thanks Malik Sir, for the detailed suggestions. The plan for collecting funds is very good, the main setback to the plan will be that people will not trust the person who is holding the funds. People have lot of mistrust and we cannot blame them because this mistrust has come from the exploitation people have faced from their leaders and politicians for ages. We have to win the faith of the people and everyone with our sincere work.
We have currently selected 2 areas of work as education and sports.
Malik Sir, your blessings and guidance will be an asset to the effort.

navingulia
December 28th, 2005, 01:34 PM
Sandeep Balyan 1002
Ramesh Lakra 500
Suvigya Rathi 500
Vinay Siwach 300
Gajesh Dhariwal 4,500
Vijay Dhankad 500
DrVinod Shanwal, Achal Singh and Rajesh Rathi 1300
Neeraj Rathi, Deepak Dahiya, Jitender 500
Navin Farswal 1500
Sunil Dabas 501
Priti 500

Total - 11,603

Shailendra Bhai gave a cricket set and badminton raquets for kids.

Prize Money

Open Category
Boys 1st prize 501 2nd prize 250
Girls 1st prize 501 2nd prize 250

11 to 15yrs
Boys 1st prize 400 (100cash, books and pens), 2nd prize 250 (books, color pens and geometry box)
Girls 1st prize 400 (100cash, books and pens), 2nd prize 250 (books, color pens and geometry box)

Under 10yrs
Boys 1st prize 300 (100cash+books+color pens), 2nd prize150(books, pen and colors)
Girls 1st prize 300 (100cash+books+color pens), 2nd prize150(books, pen and colors)

Above 60yrs
1st prize - Dhoti Kurta (cost 250rs)
2nd prize - Dhoti Kurta (cost 250rs)

Handball
Winner 3500rs
runner up 1500rs

5000+500+900+1300+1502+3020
Total spent 12,222rs

Total recd - 11,603rs
Som e miscellaneous expenses have been born e by me (i consider it my privilige)
The cost of conducting the event has been borne by the village.

The handball coach and players contacted me after the match with a request of providing them proper goalpoasts for a new handball court they are preparing. I promised them that i will get it sponsored for them.

anildabas1701
December 28th, 2005, 01:36 PM
JAT JAGRITI, its a very nice start by you MR. NAVIN GULIA and i also thanks TO MR SHAILENDRA TOKAS SAHAB for a good and sincere effort in this direction......................................... .................................................. ..
ZAMEEN HAI, PODHE HAI,
PAANI HAI, HAWA HAI
JARURAT HAI TO ROSHINI KI

navingulia
December 28th, 2005, 01:38 PM
i was really amazed that how well Priti was able to connect to the school girls and the kids. Good work Priti.

navingulia
December 28th, 2005, 01:41 PM
Bhai Anil, First of all,thanks for being there yesterday. The presence of all young people had put an enthusiasm into the event. (Anil, neeraj, sunil, priti, Navin, deepak)
Secondly, i am just a worker. The initiation, concept and making Jat Jagriti a reality is all because of the efforts of Bhai Shailender and others.

mukeshkumar007
December 28th, 2005, 03:29 PM
Congratulation to all of you for the success of this visit. Thanks for the efforts to start something on ground level. Now I am sure none can say that JAT can't do anything except BATE.... keep the spirit on...

sampuran
December 28th, 2005, 04:26 PM
the main setback to the plan will be that people will not trust the person who is holding the funds. People have lot of mistruct and we cannot blame them because this mistrust has come from the exploitation people have faced from their leaders and politicians for ages. We have to win the faith of the people and everyone with our sincere work.
.

Thats right, winning the faith of the people is primary hurdle. Community living and activities are a big help towards that end.

sunilchhikara
December 28th, 2005, 05:57 PM
hello everyone
As navin ji informed about the jat jagrti programme. it was wonderful gathering there. every volunteers r full of ethasisum and wants to do something for the people. The Volunteers which impressed was PRITI she gathered the school girls trying to figure out thier problem.

The initiative for this all goes to navin ji. who have organised such a wonderful programme. Futher backed by tokas bhai.

anujkadyan
December 28th, 2005, 06:54 PM
Great start !!!!
Amazing initiative by Vinod bhai and admirable effort by Navin bhai in making this meet a success.

kudos to all
Regards,
Anuj kadyan

jassyjat
December 28th, 2005, 08:38 PM
A very nice and humble start for a noble cause by Navin ji and other associated members and participants

Wel its a long journey and only God can say so much efforts and time will take to bring the turn around but it is for sure that single step for this long journey has been taken... and i have full faith that this vision is possible and efforts put in this fashion will definately make like minded people to join the cause.

I agree with Col Malik sir point of view and had opporunity also to discuss things in person. What make me very happy and confident is that the conscious level within our community is rising. This will bring the much need change. We as a community must focus on our strenghts and improve the weakness.

A humble suggestion or model which im following i thought i wil share with u also is that we must bring up our near, dear family member and relatives up in education, geting job & business similar to what is generally done by Sardar, Sindhi or Gujrathi community.

At last it gives me immense pleasure to see the tireless and dedicated efforts put in by you all. Please accept my heart felt regards for same. Im particularily impress by Ramesh Lakra sir who has been sincerely contibuting from his mumbai days.

rameshlakra
December 28th, 2005, 11:03 PM
first of all let me thank, all of you who were part of this great gathering on 27th and i believe that it is going to a great day for jats.

Well to start with, the kind of people present both in numbers and quality can easily put any election rally to shame therefore the organisers had tough time controliing them. It only showed that ordinary people has lost faith in politicians and we too made it quite clear that we do not affiliate to any political outfit.

As mentioned above, by Navin Bhai the programme went smooth.During the discussion with elders,sarpanchs the following emerged:

1) Sarpanch grant to be reverted back to old system with steps to prevent corruption.
Jat jagriti--- they were told that this is beyond the focus area of JatJagriti but it would still be represented across to Mr.deepender hooda, a member on our site

2)Good people leave villages stating that "gaon mein maahol kharab hain"
Jat jagriti--- Better education only can be solution with a stress on moral education

3)Priority level for education is missing.
Jat jagriti--- they were told that this is the exact reason the jagriti people are here they are going to be there more frequently.

4) Lack of Sports facilities and equipment
Jat jagriti--- reply at sl 3

5)Role model for village boys is absent as even the seniors who have finished masters or higher education are unemployed.
Jat jagriti---They were promised that more frequent jagriti people would visit the village to motivate boys with their own self example.

6)Students who do well at primary level generally gets demotivated in higher classes and gets involved in unlawful activities
Jat jagriti---refer to reply at serial 3.

7)No teacher for class 8 and 11th and also no rooms for them too.
Jat jagriti---Well we were helpless but we promised to do something about it by way of conveying it to Mr. Deepender hooda.

8)Dispensary.
Jat jagriti --- It is important to note here that there had to be TWO sarpachs and it was a pity that there was no dispensary nearby.But we told them that we have left all these things to the politicains and please dont expect much from them as we are looking for tomarrow's young people who will become doctors themselves and will not need a dispensary,therefore.


9) Stress on moral and hygiene education is lacking in a village teahers..
Jat jagriti---refer reply to sl no 3


I think the above mentioned points are serious and need to be discussed as the story is simillar elsewhere in our belts of jats.I would like to mention it here that on behalf of jat jagriti we made it quite clear that we are a group of jats but we are for eveyone present here irrespective of the caste and there shall be no discrimation whatsoever.

last but not the least jatjagriti informally discussed to visit the village every fortnight in rotation( say for example the technical guys can go on one weekend and doctors next time,may be with with free health camps etc and likewise defence people) and it was left to Navin to liase regarding this. suggestions and recommendations are welcome here regarding this and please be a part of it by making urself available on some weekends.

personally let me thank solanki for bestowing all the faith in me.thankx a lot.
thank you all of u once again, signing off as of now with promise to post rest half of the happening that day.

regards

positivelook
December 29th, 2005, 07:25 AM
Bhai Navin And all

Its a good start and ur appeal is not new Navin its already been on jatland several times but here most of the members only beleive in posting posts and doing nothing and they dont come forward and i have no answer for this that why they act like this. Well "Jat Jagriti" is a good start and i know there are some jatlanders who are really serious in doing something but there is a need of platform, now if u guys are thinking to register "Jat Jagriti" a registered NGO than we can all gather under this roof and start doin something. We all know we have limited resources and unlimited wants but still where there is a will there is a way. If u see Navin how many members have replied to ur post so far can give u the answer of lots of questions. But i beleive still we have some strength who can go for this challenge. As Col. Malik said first hindrance is finance which is true and we need funds on every step and for this we cant look towards govt. cos we all know that wht politicians are whether its hooda or its Chautala, i know exceptions are always there but still whom we are thinking exception they have to prove themselves and so far they are not doing as they were expected.
Now come to ur point Col. Malik abt contribution i dont think we can gather 200 people of our village to contribute Rs. 2000-3000 each month cos it needs lots of courage and sincerity and unselfishness which i dont think is in there in the masses. But still i m not opposing the idea and i m saying that first if we can gather 200 people from jatland is a big success at the initial stage cos all jatlanders are educated, they can understand each others feeling and now if we head toward this direction we can organise some events on every six month basis and a annual event can be organise (something like Rural convention oct. 2006 which we already talked abt). So this all need dedication and support of serious Jats from all over the Globe.

Well Shailender Bhai i heard that ur registering the Jat Jagriti than i support u to go ahead and we all will get together now , so this is the best time to strt and lets take it a new resolution.

Abhimanyu Phougat

navingulia
December 29th, 2005, 10:13 AM
Just a few related thoughts -
1. We cant have perfect solutions, we can only have perfect sincerity. We should just intend to do some good work and if we are able to help 5 people and motivate 5 kids, we should be happy.
2. It cannot be an overnight change. A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
3. We have to think about the ways in which we can contribute towards the cause. We should all have a minimum aim of helping atleast 5 people and motivating 5 kids.
4. Funds will help and might be needed at times but the first thing needed is sincere action and sincere work. In my mind I am not worried/concerned about funds, I am only thinking of actions.
5. What happened on 27th was an event. Now we will have activities.
My course of action -
a) I have decided to open an education cell in the village for providing guidance and help relating to education. The 9th and 11th std which dont have teachers, i and khushi will be going to teach them on few days and i will try to organise self-study for them and to advise them how to conduct self-study.
b) I have decided to make a list of all un-employed youth in the village and to do all to get them employment/self-employment.
c) I have decided to help the 5-6 physically challenged kids to get independent and do well under the other project ASFA (www.asfa.co.in)
d) I will be visiting some schools in Jhajjar and some smaller villages soon.
More than funds, we need volunteers, people who are willing to work on ground. Sabko saath leke chalna hai. Ekta mei shakti hai.

We shouldnot be critical and negative about things. We should believe in the goodness of people and their intentions. When we meet and interact with warmth and love it alwasy gets reciprocated. I have never run short of good people. When i need one, i find eight.
I was returning that night and my car screen was covered with mud. I stopped at a house and asked the man siting there "Bhai ek dallu paani milega sheeshe pe daalne ke liye" and he said "paani se bhi patla kya hoga? aap aao, chaay paani, roti tuuk sab hai". The point is when we believe that people are nice we meet nice people and my belief in this philosophy is only strenghthened every day.
Regards
Navin Gulia

stokas
December 30th, 2005, 01:39 AM
Mission ‘JAT JAGRITI’ has taken-off!!

More than funds, we need volunteers, people who are willing to work on ground. Sabko saath leke chalna hai. Ekta mei shakti hai.

We shouldnot be critical and negative about things. We should believe in the goodness of people and their intentions. When we meet and interact with warmth and love it alwasy gets reciprocated. I have never run short of good people. When i need one, i find eight.

Navin Gulia

We are with you Navin dear!!

Although, we (the DJM members) were enthusiastic enough, but we didn’t knew what to do or how should we go - till we met Navin! He is the one who motivated, guided and supported us! Without him, we are (and will be) nothing!

Navin bhai, we are also workers like you!

Hamne to sirf ek chhota sa sapna dekha tha – Navin ney usey asliyat banaaya!!!!
(He has turned our dreams into reality and we are very much optimistic about our future endeavors!)

Our visit to Barhana village on Tuesday, 27/12/05:

Many ladies were busy in the kitchen and working hard for our lunch! Navin forgot to mention about ‘nooni ghee’ we had in bulk - along with ‘pinkish’ seet to top it all!

Villagers were equally enthusiastic about everything – be it about education quality and awareness, sports activities etc. Hundreds of people thronged the venue – where the sports activities were going on!

3 girls recited a ‘swagat gaan’:
Phool khilte rahein,
Muskurate rahein,
Ae parwasi aate rahein,
Yoon hi jaate rahein.

Priti got ‘laapata’ for a long time. When enquired about her whereabouts – we found that she was busy with and surrounded by those little girls and kids in other corner of the ground (very good Priti dear – that’s why we were there!). She only can tell about further developments on that ‘small panchayat’! She even gave 2 basketballs to the sports cell.

Lakra’s simplicity to attach with the village people is amazing. Although, being in service, it’s heartening that he is providing his full time and support. That’s his commitment towards our community! Keep it up Ramesh dear!

One snapshot at the venue; during the handball match:
Navin was near the ground, watching the match. Priti was far away with girls. Neeraj, Deepak, Chhikara and Anil were taking snaps and shooting live; all over the ground. Sunil Dabas and Farswal were interacting with the villagers. Khushi (with her ‘ghoonghat’ and saas!), Priti’s mother and mamaji, Ramesh and many others were enjoying the game from the stage. Public was all over the ground. But, what was myself doing at that time?? I was enjoying watching them all!!

More afterwards!

Thanks to everyone for their overwhelming support –outside and inside Jatland.com

People who visited the village:

Navin & Khushi Gulia
Navin’s mother
Priti Shokeen
Priti’s mother and mamaji
Ramesh Lakra
Sunil Chhikara
Shailendra Tokas
Navin Farswal
Sunil Dabas
Anil Dabas
Deepak Dahiya
Neeraj Rathi

(http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?p=31598)

devdahiya
December 30th, 2005, 07:39 AM
It was indeed heartening to see Navin taking this initiative and lit a candle of hope in a barren land of dwindling fortunes. It was not a simple exercise of going to a village for a picnic but an experiment with truth. I am fully aware as to what it takes to think good of others who don't matter to you on the surface? When somebody travels in a direction, not intended to garner popular support and profits, it is the shere character that motivates a person to leap on the troubled horizons. It was a selfless act on the part of Navin,Shailendra and all those people who could spare their valuable time and could be there where people don't wish to pass through. I am simply moved by the way things were taken care of. I wish i could be part of it on ground, however i find myself mentally involved in it. Very good initiative taken and hope kindled. Keep it up and a long way to go. God speed !

deepakdahiya
December 30th, 2005, 12:09 PM
Jai Mata Di,

To all JAT bhai

yes friends its much more than a starting.....whatever we thinked, we

got more than that.
the way they welcome us, the way they discuess with us and the way all

activities take place.

So friends we have to maintain the level which we have achieved in the

first village visit, as the expectation for the next visits are also

there.
Now, we have to prepare in advance in many ways, like:
....Better control over the activities
for that we require more poeple in the next visit.

....Better control over resources handed over thereso that we can better know the feedBack from the authorised person in village.

....Divide the JAT-JAGRITI members into different depatments to deal in
specialise area

like, member deal in Sports related activities
" " Education " "
and same for other activities


AS WE ALL HAVE DECIDED TO CHANGE THE NAME OF " DELHI_JAT_MEET " INTO " JATJAGRITI "....IT IS CHANGED

Now all previous links which point to Delhi_jat_meet yahoo group in

JATLAND.COM, will no longer work.

the new link to the group is :


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JatJagriti


so, be the member of this group for all updates and please also communicate this group to all your friends in delhi....
....i am also doing that by sending mails to all jatland.com members and all other groups in yahoo, google etc.



Deepak Dahiya
***Jai Mata Di***

mukeshkumar007
December 30th, 2005, 12:21 PM
so, be the member of this group for all updates and please also communicate this group to all your friends in delhi....
....i am also doing that by sending mails to all jatland.com members and all other groups in yahoo, google etc.

Deepak Dahiya
***Jai Mata Di***

bhai deepak Jai mata di,

you are really doing a great job man.. Keep it up..Our community need dedicated member like u...

gsvijay1
December 30th, 2005, 01:54 PM
Naveen Bhai and otehrs,

You guys are doing great work for our people. Keep it up :) .

Cheers,
-Vijay

navingulia
December 30th, 2005, 10:11 PM
the pictures of the visit can be seen at this link
http://photos.yahoo.com/jatjagriti

Priti has sent some good pics from her camera. I liked the gosa and chulha pic very much. Now I know what priti was doing when she was missing. :-)

Please do have a look. They are a must see.

sunilchhikara
December 30th, 2005, 10:43 PM
Just a few related thoughts -
1. We cant have perfect solutions, we can only have perfect sincerity. We should just intend to do some good work and if we are able to help 5 people and motivate 5 kids, we should be happy.
2. It cannot be an overnight change. A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
3. We have to think about the ways in which we can contribute towards the cause. We should all have a minimum aim of helping atleast 5 people and motivating 5 kids.
4. Funds will help and might be needed at times but the first thing needed is sincere action and sincere work. In my mind I am not worried/concerned about funds, I am only thinking of actions.
5. What happened on 27th was an event. Now we will have activities.
My course of action -
a) I have decided to open an education cell in the village for providing guidance and help relating to education. The 9th and 11th std which dont have teachers, i and khushi will be going to teach them on few days and i will try to organise self-study for them and to advise them how to conduct self-study.
b) I have decided to make a list of all un-employed youth in the village and to do all to get them employment/self-employment.
c) I have decided to help the 5-6 physically challenged kids to get independent and do well under the other project ASFA (www.asfa.co.in)
d) I will be visiting some schools in Jhajjar and some smaller villages soon.
More than funds, we need volunteers, people who are willing to work on ground. Sabko saath leke chalna hai. Ekta mei shakti hai.

We shouldnot be critical and negative about things. We should believe in the goodness of people and their intentions. When we meet and interact with warmth and love it alwasy gets reciprocated. I have never run short of good people. When i need one, i find eight.
I was returning that night and my car screen was covered with mud. I stopped at a house and asked the man siting there "Bhai ek dallu paani milega sheeshe pe daalne ke liye" and he said "paani se bhi patla kya hoga? aap aao, chaay paani, roti tuuk sab hai". The point is when we believe that people are nice we meet nice people and my belief in this philosophy is only strenghthened every day.
Regards
Navin Gulia



Few thoughts for jat jagrti

navin ji we can make different cells in society like medical cell, educatoin cell, career guidance cell , computer cell, & most important is personallity development cell, medical cell, sports cell

And we can put duty of every cell on any sunday of every month go to and perform thier work .

And we can organise some competation like painting, singing and motivate students.

We have many teacher, doctor and other professional who can help us .

DEAR ALL MEMBER I PERSONALLY REQUEST TO COME FORWARD TAKE THIS START TO ITS DESTINATATION.

singhkapoor
January 1st, 2006, 08:46 AM
Congratulations to everyone involved in the organization of the event.

Navin, I didn’t see the names of the two Arjuna Awardees (Shakti Singh & Raj Kumar Sangwan) in the list of people who attended the function. I had passed on to you their cell phone numbers after talking to them; they both had agreed to attend. As I had written to you, they were both told that you would contact & inform them of the exact place and time of the meet. I was wondering whether you were able to do so.

Presence of these two Asian Champions/Olympians would have added to the star appeal and the stories of their journey from small Haryana towns to the Olympic arena would have inspired more than a few kids to follow in their footsteps.

Anyways, kudos once again for a job well done!!!

Best Wishes

navingulia
January 1st, 2006, 10:06 AM
Dear Kapoor Bhai,
In your last mail to me you had said that you would be giving another call to RajKumar Sangwan around 25th and confirming with him and then i should give him a call inviting him. I wrote an email to you regarding this on 25th and 26th. I think it was a mixup with a little laziness on my part . I had already told a number of people there and they were expecting RajKumar ji there.
Thanks for the wishes. The event was a success thanks to everyone's cooperation on Ground and all the support and encouragement received on the net from all over the globe. We never felt short of encouragement and that kept us going.
In near future we can organise a sports event to involve a number of villages of an area and also we can aim at providing sports facilities to an entire area where there is absence of such facilities as of now.
In village Barhana, a sport supported on such a small scale (they had only two wooden goal post and 2 handballs) has been able to produce national and international players. It is an example of what we can achieve if we work on this line. We wont need costly stadiums or luxurious facilities, we just need a little will to begin with.
Kapoor bhai, I am looking forward to your advice and guidance on this.
Warm Regards
Navin Gulia

navingulia
January 1st, 2006, 10:28 AM
Shailender bhaisaab, aapne to itni taarif kar di, ab khud ko us taarif ke laayak banane mei bahut mehnat lagegi.
Dear All
Frankly, when i attended my first jat meet, i was really impressed by bhai shailender's eagerness to work, it inspired me to do all i could.
As I mentioned earlier, we have had an event, now is the tim e to begin activities. While events get us the attention, evetns need funds. Activities will need more investment of efforts and sincerity.
Sunil bhai, your suggestions are right. Only, we will not and cannot start all things at once, we have to start from scratch and build on.
Regards
Navin Gulia

rameshlakra
January 1st, 2006, 12:02 PM
Dear all,

When do we plan to do what we had promised to undertake. For the benefit of all this movement has to carry on and i think broad things asking for our attnetion are:

1) fullfill all our promises made and to take only that much what we can digest.

2)Ask for volunteers with a firm propasal to carry it out in systematic manner.

3) Spread it out to other villages after self sustained growth/volunteers at this village we adopted.

regards

ramesh

navingulia
January 1st, 2006, 09:43 PM
Bhai Ramesh, valid point we have to start the work. I have already stated my plan, i am just waiting for schools to open in a few days. I am planning to teach the 9th and 11th class for 2months so that they dont miss their year. Paralelly i will work on other things as mentioned below.
Now, do i have volunteers? for expanding this work.

My course of action -
a) I have decided to open an education cell in the village for providing guidance and help relating to education. The 9th and 11th std which dont have teachers, i and khushi will be going to teach them on few days and i will try to organise self-study for them and to advise them how to conduct self-study.
b) I have decided to make a list of all un-employed youth in the village and to do all to get them employment/self-employment.
c) I have decided to help the 5-6 physically challenged kids to get independent and do well under the other project ASFA (www.asfa.co.in)
d) I will be visiting some schools in Jhajjar and some smaller villages soon.
More than funds, we need volunteers, people who are willing to work on ground. Sabko saath leke chalna hai. Ekta mei shakti hai.

cooljat
January 2nd, 2006, 02:41 PM
dear respected Navin bhaisaab n fellow JatJagriti Members,
salutations!
its been proved that we all beleive in action here on Jatland & kudos to Navin Bhaisaab for inisitating sucha noble task, salutations to u :)

Although I missed it but I can feel how rocking this event wud been btw really ain't got words to describe u ppl's greatness, keep up the JAt spirit!

rock on
Jit

vinodks
January 2nd, 2006, 04:40 PM
Good job guys!

internet is slow, keyboard is bad so message is short:-)

V.

puneetsheoran
January 3rd, 2006, 11:44 PM
First of all I would like to extend my congratulations to all concerned.

I would like to kindly request the powers to be to please pin this thread so that it is easily accessible at all times. Thanks and God bless.

rkumar
January 4th, 2006, 01:02 AM
Great job Navin. It might be worthwhile if a calander of activities can be prepared in advance and posted on Jatland. Many of us will try to join the future activities of the manch.

Rajendra

anurana
January 4th, 2006, 09:29 PM
First of all I would like to extend my congratulations to all concerned.

I would like to kindly request the powers to be to please pin this thread so that it is easily accessible at all times. Thanks and God bless.
Done , the thread is a sticky now.

navingulia
January 5th, 2006, 10:22 PM
Thanks anu jee.
we will now work out our future plans.

deepender
January 6th, 2006, 01:15 AM
Great work Navin, Ramesh and all others involved.

I've taken a note of the couple of points that you've mentioned for me to take note of....and let me tell you this - both your observations (that of school infrastructure and shortage of teaching staff) unfortunately are not limited to this particular village, but are pretty widespread in rural schools.

Education is one of my key focus areas as well and I am working overtime on various plans - at the moment have started involving a few NGOs and other non-gov groups in my efforts too - please feel free to drop in any time to meet-up perhaps we can add in our energies.

All the best in your endevours. This is a great start! congratulations.

Deepender Singh Hooda

spdeshwal
January 6th, 2006, 10:58 AM
Dear Deepender,

It was nice to see your post and am pleased that you are following this all important thread! I hope Naveen Bhai and his group would have all the support from you.

Bhai 'Ladhaut, ka bhi dhyan rakhiyo!


Redards

Sateypal

rameshlakra
January 6th, 2006, 11:22 AM
Dear Deepender bhai,

It is very encouraging of u to have taken a note of our efforts in improving education and moral values amoungst our youths.

We promise you to take these initiatives to new heights, very soon, ofcourse with an eye on more participation from the site.Here, personally i do agree with views of sh Rajender Kalkunde to have a Calender of events made public so that people confirm their participation early.

You are very right when you say that all the villages today have simillar stories across the board and that exactly is the reason we are probably targeting the young people and their education and overall growth. So five years from now when a 6th class child becomes a lad with all the good intentions and self sufficiency, that is all that would make the difference to the villages with scores of such lads.Alas, it is easier said then done, and it would require tremendous amount of volunteers to organise themselves and spread the movement.

Accept my appreciations for having spared time for us. We would definately want to see you after carrying out some home-work.

regards,
ramesh

navingulia
January 6th, 2006, 12:23 PM
Together we can make a difference.

Thanks Deepender Bhai for extending your support to this endeavour. I was myself thinking of contacting you but didnot kow your jatland id.
As Reamesh rightly said, we will first do our homework, there are some things to discuss and decide.

1. If we plan to take our work forward with the volunteers we actually need to know who all are willing to give their time on a more regular basis.
2. In improving quality of education, the need to promote english language is an urgency. Members should come with their advice/ideas/suggestions on this.
3. Promotion of sports? We dont need costly stadiums/facilities. What we need is that there should be a small sports cell in the villages where some sports items are available for the children/youth. Sports keeps our youth away from illegal/immoral activities, it breeds a health mindset. Once the interest is generated the child himself takes the interest forward.

Anything done with a good intention will always have good results.

stokas
January 6th, 2006, 01:42 PM
Thanks to Anu and Deepender – that’s the best you both could have done at the initial stage of this movement. These kind of moral supports could work like wonders for our community’s future! We hope for bigger favours in near future!


Done , the thread is a sticky now.


I've taken a note of the couple of points that you've mentioned for me to take note of

Dear Navin and Ramesh,

We couldn’t be successful without villager’s support and some dedicated volunteers from that area! That’s the most necessary aspect at this time. We have already asked the villagers for some vols and Navin could ask them - if they have short-listed some!!

As, Jagmohan Sir has written: once the needs are assessed, the next step is to tackle them in their order of priority, as each area would have a different priority. So, we shouldn’t work on several tasks all at once, juggling everything! But, it would be best to just focus on one thing at a time. We should do our best to stay focused and keep our attention centered on one thing at a time! We should also try to take things at a slower pace and not prefer to move quickly!

Distractions and interruptions could be frequent, so it could take extra energy to get things done.

Navin would keep updated about the latest developments and we do hope for a much bigger participation from other Jatland members (be it Tan, Man or Dhan)! We do also need some senior members for this great cause!

We met a young boy - Bhupender Ahlawat – during this visit and he is already working towards the noble cause of educating children of that area (through “Dayanand Smriti” Shaikshik Jagrukta Karyekram). He distributes printed material and books to school going children, free of cost! One book is helpful for ‘career guidance’ in Army, Navy, Air Force, JBT, B.Ed., LLB, NDA, CDS etc. We will try to make him a part of “JJ”!

Thanks to one and all!

Ram-Ram

dndeswal
January 6th, 2006, 02:15 PM
Navin Bhai,

Your efforts to keep everyone informed is commendable. Kaash hum bhi us event mein hote ! But sitting abroad, we are helpless. We can however pray that our efforts may be successful.

devdahiya
January 6th, 2006, 05:35 PM
Ek kadam tum chalo, ek kadam hum challein
Mita dallo duriyan, Jat fullein aur fallein

Hathhon mein hathh daal, Disha ek tye karein
Saath-2 aage badhhein, saath-2 hum jiyein
Vatavarn mehk uthhe,hum kissi ko na chhalein
Mita dalo.................................

Jagriti aaey nai, Pushpon ki bharmaar ho
Kuchh aissa kar sakein, na koi lachar ho
Mashal Navin bhai ki, hazzaron jalti rahein.
Mita dalo...................................

rajeshrathee
January 6th, 2006, 09:00 PM
Respected all

I hereby announce that i will be giving a scholarship of Rs 12000/- per annum to a deserving Jat boy/girl for pursuing higher studies after schooling. The scholarship will be dedicated to my father LATE SH. KRISHAN CHANDER RATHEE As he has done a lot for JATs during his life and still wanted to do a lot before he departed for heaven in December 2002. It will be given from next session onward i.e JULY 2006.

As to decide as how to give it and to whom, it will be decided by the members of JAT JAGRITI and Naveen Gulia & Shailender bhai sahib will decide the further course of action.

Views/Suggestions of fellow members are also invited and the same can be sent to the honourary members.

regards

Rajesh Rathee

stokas
January 6th, 2006, 10:03 PM
I hereby announce that i will be giving a scholarship of Rs 12000/- per annum to a deserving Jat boy/girl for pursuing higher studies after schooling. The scholarship will be dedicated to my father LATE SH. KRISHAN CHANDER RATHEE
regards
Rajesh Rathee

Dear Rajesh,

It’s a very good decision taken by you and a nice gesture too!

This money will go a long way in strengthening our younger generation and community as well!

A few other members also have some similar plans; but I am not allowed to declare their names over here!

Thanks for your support to “Jat Jagriti”!!


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- Unless commitment is made, there are only promises and hopes, but no plans. -Peter Ferdinand Drucker

- It is finally time to stop asking yourself so many questions and instead focus on finding the answers!

positivelook
January 7th, 2006, 06:59 AM
Dear Members

Its good lots of people are coming forward to do something for our community and if the number grows like this than we can really create the difference , i know this is going to take lots of time and contribution and as indicated by Shailender Bhai we need people to support no matter by Tan, man and dhan. Making a calender for events is a good suggetion and now one more thing we can do is to select some talented kids from our villages who are really good in sports activities and we can sponsor them so that they can do better in future. Shailender Bhai as i asked u b4 also that r u guys going to register the Jat Jagriti or not. If so this will be a platform to get us all together and do something for our community people. Well at this time all looks good and i hope more people will come forward for this work.

Abhimanyu Phougat

navingulia
January 7th, 2006, 09:10 AM
Dear Bhai Rajesh, wonderful! great!
We can find deserving candidate by taking out add in local paper (amar ujala, dainik bhaskar, dainik jagran) asking for students to apply. We an also spread the word by mouth on our village visits and look for candidates ourselves. From the fin al list the team mem bers can select one candidate.
Deserving candidate (my idea)
1. economically weak 2. girl/boy - girl child should get priority 3. academic performance (result of 10th/12th)

Bhai Rajesh- you have to decide
1. Will you giv e sponsorship to a boy/girl till he/she completes education (which will be some years)
2. If we chose a candidate every year, than at a time we may have a number of them after a few years.
Regards
Navin Gulia

radhikachhillar
January 7th, 2006, 11:41 AM
Ek kadam tum chalo, ek kadam hum challein
Mita dallo duriyan, Jat fullein aur fallein

Hathhon mein hathh daal, Disha ek tye karein
Saath-2 aage badhhein, saath-2 hum jiyein
Vatavarn mehk uthhe,hum kissi ko na chhalein
Mita dalo.................................

Jagriti aaey nai, Pushpon ki bharmaar ho
Kuchh aissa kar sakein, na koi lachar ho
Mashal Navin bhai ki, hazzaron jalti rahein.
Mita dalo...................................





Hope it comes true Dev uncle !

mukeshkumar007
January 7th, 2006, 01:34 PM
There are many factors which deeply affect to a student. These can turn his/her life completely. Some may be :-
1. Parents
2. Environment
3. Teachers
4. Goal.
These above factors play a major role in a student’s life. So if we want to improve quality in education then we must need to work on these points by making them favorable to a student.
1. Parents: Parents play a major role in student’s life. Student’s whole development depends on parents. Parents know his child better than other. They are much aware from his weakness and strengths. Parents can teach him good social values and their importance. I think social values are much essential for a student to do well in his/her life and this can be done in a better way only by his/her parents. Mother can inspire him/her to do something new in life while father can make him aware from his/her duties and responsibilities as a student. A Student can be motivated by his parents in better way than others. In rural areas parents understand their duty off only on admitting their child into school. They hardly talk with him/her about his/her study and progress. Parents in villages never visit in the school to check the development of his child. Yeha tak ki jab bacha school se ata hai to usko ate hi kehte hai beta jaa eh kaam kar wo kaam kar , padhai ke liye nahi kehte hai.. Here I am not saying that a student should not do work in farm but there should be a good time schedule for his/her study and other work and I think only parents can help him/her in this matter. This is why we first need to work on this point. We need to make the parents aware that time has changed completely and to make their child more competitive with rest of the world they will have to change their attitude toward their child. Parents need to involve themselves in the progress/success of his/her child. Parents should try to find out their child’s weakness and can help him/her to come out from his/her weaknesses.
2. Environment: It is also an important factor which is not student friendly specially in our rural areas. A student can do well where he/she has good friend circle, good opportunity for better education, friendly competition among students, good sports facilities for using spare time. Such type of environment can bring many brilliant minds from our rural areas. students pass their important time by sitting under tree or GATA (choupal)even in school time by doing smoking or sharing nonsense jokes and in other silly things. To change this system we should discuss with the villagers. We need to motivate students.
Teachers: Less said is better about them. I think in present time they are not doing justice with their job. Education system ki aisi taise kar rakhi hai in mastaro ne to.. bhoot bigadh gaye hai yeh.. sabse pehle to iniko sudharne ki jaroorat hai.. . They have forgotten what is their duty.. They have nothing to do with the interest of students. Inko to sirf mehine ek tarik yaad rehti jab payment milta hai… na to yeh school maie time par ate hai.. and jab ate hai to bi apna time politics gupsap maie pura kar dete hai…hamare samaj ko netawo se jyada khatra to in logo se hai . They force the students to take tuitions. My uncle (who is lecturer in chemistry) earns more money than his salary through tuitions, and if any student doesn’t come for the tuition he may loose practical marks. So to improve quality in education teachers activities must be checked by a system and I think villager can play a good role in this side. We can organize a team of some villagers (non-politician) those can visit in schools regularly to check the presence of teachers and their role.
Goal (Lakshya): without goal a student is like a fish without sea. Student must be aware of his goal if he/she wants to reach at peak. It is pity said that a 10th pass student don’t know what his/her aim in life. Almost student are not able to answer this question due to lack of career guidance in rural areas. If a student can decide his/her goal during primary stage than I think he can put his/her best efforts to achieve the goal. We can talk with students friendly to help them to find out their goal and can provide basic guidance to achieve it. Motivation can play very important role here as a tonic.
There are many brilliant minds in our villages, those can enlighten the name of our community, hame sirf chalni lekar channe ke jaroorat hai…. It feel proud that many people are coming ahead to make this dream a reality.
Raj bhiya ji thanks for your offer. This is what we need. Scholarship exam can be good option (in my views).
In our first step we should concentrate only on one village to make it a role model for our future programs.

gajeshd
January 7th, 2006, 02:59 PM
Dear Navin Bhai and all the Jat Jagriti activists,

I am back to my karm bhoomi after a break of almost 3 weeks.

First of all I extend my sincere thanks to Navin Bhai his equally good half Khushi bhabhi and very actively supportive parents, brother and Col.Kataria for his guidance and full support for the Jat Jagriti.for putting in so much efforts for organising the meeeting on 25th Dec at Gurgaon.

It was so strengthening and empowering to meet so many dedicated and motivated jat brothers and sisters. Each one present there had the spark and
tremendous energy to be directed for the well being of our community. I wish I could name each one individually.

Due to unavoidable cicumstances I was unable to be present on 27th (the real work) for which I sincerely apologise.

It is my privilege and pleasure to be associated with this mission.
However we people who are away from our matrbhumi can contribute very little.

Just two points to share:

1. Let us concentrate our efforts on 1 or 2 villages intially.
2. And focus on the specific areas that we decide.

Once we are better organised we must broaden gradually area of our work.

gajeshd
January 7th, 2006, 02:59 PM
Dear Rajesh Bhai,

It was so nice to have met you in Gurgaon. I could easily make out during so little time we spent together that you are one of the strong pillars of this mission.

The scholorship being offerred by you is big boost. Let the deserving candidate be selected carefully and the scholorship should be linked to his or her performance during the course.

navingulia
January 8th, 2006, 12:56 AM
Bhai Mukesh, The points you have mentioned are the points for spreading awareness. When we plan visits to villages/ village schools these points can be addressed. Would you be willing to visit some village schools?

Gajesh Bhaisaab,
Thanks so much for your appreciation and support.
Student scholarship - a) My suggestion is that besides going for good student, we should go for a needy student from a poor family with little support.
b) We will together make sure that we get a very deserving candidate.
c) One student will recieve a scholarship on the name of Late Shri Krishan Chandra Rathee, Father of Bhai Rajesh.
d) We will work on more students in near future.

devdahiya
January 8th, 2006, 11:58 AM
My dear Navin, Shailendra and all worthy members associated with Jat jagriti,


I have a few suggestions, purely for consideration and not neccessarily for implementation.

1] Though any thing good done by a human being/group of people in unplanned manner through a gesture of goodwill too is a great service and finds mention in the records of God almighty but still when we plan to involve ourselves in an organised manner then most important ingradient after the WILL/BHAVANA will be DISCIPLINE. Unless we have a strict charter with plans afoot, things won't move in a desired direction and results may not be as pictured and hence there will be an urgent requirement for office bearers, who can be for a fix term or life term. Having done that, there will be a need for a fool proof constitution of the welfare body with a possiblity of ammendments as per the needs of the time. Blue print of a task is very important for a group to multiply and progress.

2] Utmost Honesty and Devotion: I have no qualms about that as very able and upright people have initiated this cause and hence that requirement seems met.

3] Transparancy : This is one aspect where a lot of heads have to scratch because people will be curious to know the results/utility of their association/work done/contributions made etc-2. At the end of the day this happens to be the most defficult and challanging tasks of all. Thus a spotless record of every thing needs to be maintained.

4] Faith : this is yet another problem area as faith is not so easily put in place. People tend to be spektical of the intentions of any undertaking freshly taking off and frankly there is some merit in their concerns because of bogus organisations running on every street and corner of even small towns. The faith ofcourse will come by the deeds and practical performance and as such can not be thrust into the psych. Still a proper attention needs to be paid.
5] Registeration Registeration of this organisation will really kick start it and thus every endavour should be made to get it authenticated [ may be if using Jat with Jagriti meets some objection, we can always use word like KISSAN etc]
6] Donations: I suggest that a proper account be opened in the name of the orginisation straight away so that interested people can send DD/cheques directly to the account, so thay funds are readily available towards implimentations of various planned activities.
7] A BOOKLET: I will request the WHO'S WHO to bring out a quarterly/half yearly booklet summarising all the activities of the organisation as it will keep people informed of the activities.




These are a few which i thought to share with all at this point of time. I will contribute to this organisation whole heartidlyand without any questions asked. Wishing Jat Kaum all the best !

ramksehrawat
January 8th, 2006, 12:52 PM
I salute you all who have taken this nobel path. May the Almighty bring success to all your endeavours.

rameshlakra
January 9th, 2006, 10:32 AM
Dear Rajesh bhai,

I dont have words to your kind and great gesture that u have shown, for other members here to emulate.Once the society is registered i dont think funds will be a problem, and shailendra bhai will keep everyone informed about that.

regards,
ramesh

mukeshkumar007
January 9th, 2006, 04:13 PM
Would you be willing to visit some village schools?


Navin Bhiya, Yes, I am always ready.

navingulia
January 9th, 2006, 10:20 PM
Dear Dev Sir,
Your points are 100% of what is needed, we are working on it.

Mukesh Bhai, thanks.
where are you based? jaipur.
which place/village you belong to?

Dear Members,
I want suggestions from you all, as to How to promote english language in our students so that they can get good jobs. ---Imp

anujkadyan
January 12th, 2006, 11:08 AM
I can think of two things as of now :

1. We should try to establish a library in each of the schools and inculcate the habbit of reading. We can volunteer to go there on weekends and read them books.

2. We should try and get books which are in Hindi on one page and English translation of the same on the other. This way they can learn it faster and it will be very effective. I was once approached by such publisher here in Hyderabad for implementing this in schools supported by Asha. I think if we can get the same for Hinidi English ti can be a very effective medium.


Regards,
Anuj kadyan

navingulia
January 12th, 2006, 11:18 PM
Dear Members,
hmmm, after days of pondering i have come up with some ideas, suggestions and plans.

1. We should continue working on the village and expand from there.
2. As for the core issue 'Improving the quality of education'. I feel we need to do something on a larger scale. We need to do extensive campaigning. Some help from government policies and some common support we can make major progress.
It is very important to work on promoting english in schools and personality development. The discouraging point is that even the teachers cannot speak english.
I think even for future teacher selection there should be more importance given to personality test besides qualifications.
Campaigning in schools (even one visit can make a difference) is a good option. I am willing to devote my full time for it but there would be monetory aspects involved in terms of travelling and literature(pamphlets, booklets, banners if any).
I think we should work on this option and come what may, make it a success.

i would request the Other members to discuss and decide.

Bhai Anuj, good suggestions. Libraries an d books are a must

Regards
Navin Gulia

anujkadyan
January 13th, 2006, 10:38 AM
Hi Navain,

Good to know that you want to make sure that we succeed in what we started and not leave it mid way.

I think as you have mentioend the best option would be to start with one school or one village at a time.

They way some of us work here is that we have formed a group of 5-6 people who volunteer to teach on saturdays at a school

That way there is a continuity as even if some cant come there will be 2-3 ppl who wuld go each weekend.
We can very well talk to the teachers and make saturday an activity day where we get all the students involved in activities like learning english, reading books and publick speaking etc.

About monetary help required for this. I think all the volunteers will have to bear some basic expenses on their own and for things like printing of stuff and getting books etc I am sure we have a big enough audience here and raising some money to start a library at a school would not be a problem.

We can start a new thread regarding that once we know what will be our exact requirement and how much funds we will need for that.

Also we can seek help from NAJC chapter and Kapoor singh bhai sahab can be contacted for that.

Regards,
Anuj Kadyan

navingulia
January 13th, 2006, 11:13 AM
dear Bhai Anuj,
Yes, we have already started with one village and i have taken on giving my time to the needs there. This one village wouldnt require much funds. Books and all i can collect here without any problem for one village.
If we decide on extensive campaigning over large number of villages then it will require funds.
In the past i ve been working in the direction of motivating the kids and it really works. Kids have a very impressionable mind and a little motivation can do wonders on them.
navingulia

anujkadyan
January 13th, 2006, 11:59 AM
Yes Navin bhai you are right.

With the right guidance, encouragement and motivation the children can do wonders. And having a Limca record holder for motivation !! No one cna beat that :)

I think we would need a bigger volunteer base incase we want to go ahead with plans of covering up more than one village.

We might need a website and a registration , but I thinkw e shuld give all these sometime and continue with the one village model for sometime.

Regards,
Anuj kadyan

gajeshd
January 13th, 2006, 02:22 PM
Dear Navin Bhai,

As we discussed during Gurgaon meeting we need to do something concrete to help our village students children improve upon thier English with more emphasis on spoken English.

Dear Anuj has given couple of good suggestions.

For the village where we have started our work can we have a weekly class to help them with this. We can hire a teacher to do this job and one of our vounteers should also be present (by rotation). Use audio and video tools will make it interesting and effective. Let this class be not totally free but highly subsidised.If this facility is provided totally free they required sincereity may not be there and the children may not value it.

We may subscribe to couple of English magazines for the students of this English Learning class.

navingulia
January 14th, 2006, 03:48 PM
Dear Gajesh Bhai saab and Vinod Bhai,
Yes, i agree with your points fully. Since i am decided to give my full time to this work. I will take on a lot of task myself. and organise the rest.
Every ones advice, suggestions and guidance will be great.
Yes, we need to have a larger volunteer base and the registration is in progress. We ve to progress towards having a larger volunteer force.
Regards
Navin Gulia
I would request all members to remain involved and not to make it a dormant thread.
The progress of the work will be posted here.

kinha
January 17th, 2006, 05:19 PM
My Ram Ram to all the Members,
Hi,

My joy sees no end on being a member of this club. I had only been talking to have such a forum without realizing there is already one.(we need to popularize this by every means of communication).

Every one knows that to execute the marvellous ideas to promote brother hood and its betterment we need money.

To start with i suggest all the members can volunteer to pay atleast 1% of their earnings per month to a common fund which can be utilized for giving shape to all these ideas.

it is a delight to see every one helping getting jobs to jats.(sadly couldn't find much from Jats settletd abroad on this front)

Another suggestion is that all the Jats abroad try and settle atleast one Jat(either by marriage, adoption or employment in their area). This will make us financially strong.............Ashok Kinha

navingulia
January 18th, 2006, 12:42 PM
Dear Friends,
Education wise-
Me and Khushi have decided to go to village barhana every Sunday and hold classes for English speaking and reading for the students/children.
We will register the students and take proper classes.
However, after discussing with the people there we have realised that we cannot charge a fee if we want more participation because as it is the fee in village pvt schools is about rs 40 and parents wont be willing to pay for any such course. We would there fore be conducting free classes. In fact we will be providing notebook, pen and reading material free of cost to motivate the students to come in. While they can keep the notebook and pen, they will have to return the reading material for use by others.
I am also sure that soon we will be able to provide them 2-3 computers as well.
Sports wise-
Bhai Vireshwar Ahlawat has agreed to sponsor the cost of goal posts for a new better handball court.
I am setting up 2 volleyball courts and a football ground for the kids to play. (I personally can still play volleyball, so that’s my interest there J )
I am sure that we will be able to make a lot of progress soon and then we can emulate the same in other villages we take on.
All members interested in joining this weekly visit are welcome to get in touch with me.
With Warm Regards
Navin Gulia

jagmohan
January 18th, 2006, 01:49 PM
Bhai Navin,

Excellent.

Just one point that you should raise and discuss with the village elders rather forcefully. Anything 'Free of Cost' loses its effectivenes after sometime. Just ask village elders as to how much money they spend on Drinking Liquor each day? Let them give up drinking for one week per month for their own children. In fact put this condition. Everything can happen and we don't have to run around for copies and books.

Is it asking for too much? I don't think so. Let them also take some steps and sacrifice for the betterment of their village. Free ki aadat mat lagne dena Bhai.

I am sure you understand the correct motive and aim behind this post.

Keep doing good and God will bles you and Khushi with all the hardwork & happiness.

God Speed.

JS Malik

navingulia
January 18th, 2006, 08:23 PM
Dear All,
This issue has been coming up again and again but the need has come to raise it again.
I request every one to give their feedback.
The villagers have had a very negative reaction to our naming as "Jat Jagriti" because in the villages it is a touchy issue since the people are Jats, Khatis, Chhipis, kumhar, baniya.... and they live in absolute brotherhood.
I am myself feeling bad because i had myself advocated naming it "Jat Jagriti" without foreseeing this. I therefore request permission to recommend "Jan Jagriti" (Jan as in janta i.e. people) as an alternate name. Our purpose and mission remains same.
The decision remains on every one's advice.
Thanks
Navin Gulia

priti
January 19th, 2006, 12:14 AM
Dear Friends

I am back in Toronto after spending some quality time in India. I apologise for my late response to this thread. Main culprit is lack of internet connection at home and my unwillingness to spend my precious time chasing the mtnl guys to fix a broadband.

Apart from the usual little frustrations, it was an enchanting visit back home. Over here i would discuss the Barhana visit. As you all have already written and read, it was a great initiatives.

Straight to the point, the issue to be highlighted here is school girls and their problems. The girls in Barhana were simply amazing in their enthusiasm to talk to about things to a complete stranger like me. The fact that i spoke their language was a huge facilitator.

Firstly- lack of direction, an example- I asked a girl who was in her 12th standard on what she intended to do after she cleared the exams and she said 'i dont know'. We had some more conversation and what i feared was true. Her parents wanted to get her married off and she did not even know what she should fight for or against.

The second issue was absence of means to learn english. The girls said that there is no english teacher in the school and that they get their lessons from other makeshift teachers or sometimes from the english teacher from the nearby private school. They also mentioned that in the village environment it is very hard for them to learn english properly.

The other issue was regarding the attitude of parents towards allowing the girls in sporting activities. The problem here is dominence of boys in limited sporting spaces available in the village and the conservative attitude of the parents and the villagers.

the second issue could be handled by the govt. or the local education authorities and it would be great if somebody could highlight this issue to the local authority.

The first and third issues are mainly related to social and psycological pressures on the girl child. These could only be handled with social change which comes with attitude change and a growing conciousness of importance of education for girl child. For this I think the best way to go forward is to put some examples in the village which other girls can aspire to and from which parents can derive strength to support their girls for further education and development.

I would request the jat jagriti group to always include a focus on girl child education and rights. This was something which i felt was missing from the visit. But i understand that this is just the beginning and hopefully much more is to be established.

I was discussing this initiative with some of my development sector friends who have huge practical experience of working in the villages and a good suggestion was to setup a small library in the village where the children can find 'chetna' oriented books. Also, books from great writers on social issues like munshi premchand. We have a rich writing culture in India and am sure that if nothing else, reading occupies creative minds and introduces them to the outside world and new ideas.

The Rajiv Gandhi Foundation provides funds for setting up small libraries in villages. The criteria for getting the funds are very simple. Navin, we can start this with Barhana. I can work on the list of books which should be in this library and also find out about the RGF grant. Seriously, this a tangible and simple task which can bring some good results....

More later...

anujkadyan
January 19th, 2006, 10:22 AM
Hi Navin I totally agree to this.

We can only focus on working in our villages but we cannot afford to brand us as onlya Jat seva group as we can not and should not differentiate between the under privilegded children in these villages.

Also going forward when we would seek help from a bigger community it makes us for acceptable.

But yes our main focus should be to help these children in our villages.


Priti: I totally agree to the suggestion of a library there. Incase its too long a process of getting things done thru RCF I think we can ourselves create a pool pf money and use that to set up a library.

As I had mentioned earlier we can get english books as well and volunteers can read these books to them during their visit to the schools.

And there are bilingual books, with Hindi and English of the same text on the same page. That wat it makes easier for them to read in hindi and then read the same text in english. It can help them learn english very quickly.

Regards,
Anuj Kadyna

navingulia
January 19th, 2006, 11:53 AM
Dear Priti,
Yes, i agree with the points mentioned about the girl child. I was focussing more on education and had missed out the fact that the girls would require a seperate playing area in the village.
Khushi will be there with me and will interact and work on the girls activities. Ofcourse the lady members from jatland who are aroun d nearby can also join in.

Dear Vinod and Priti,
There is an existing library in the village and we can add books. It would only require a few thousand rupees to get study material, where as chasing funds from rgf or govt is a back breaking experience(if it can be done easily then its fine).
Besides, i also feel that we will have to organise activities to bring the children to the class/library. Only the existence of the library wont help. Just like Vinod suggested, readin g books to them and making them read.

anujkadyan
January 19th, 2006, 03:24 PM
Yeah Navin thats even better then.

Incase one of us can come up with a list of books and the price we can post a message here and I am sure we would definitely be able to raise the required money.

After the meeting how many of the volunteers plan to visit the school on regular basis, apart form you and kushi ?

Just curious to know as to how much we can scale up our efforts.

Regards,
Anuj Kadyan

devdahiya
January 19th, 2006, 09:26 PM
My dear Navin,


I have some good collection of books on various subjects. In addition i have other healthy literature with me and would like to send it to you in first instance. Also i wish to meet you in person shortly to strengthen your resolve. Keep up the spirits.......Nobility demands sacrifices and has to undergo an acid test...and then only it shines from behind the clouds. My whole hearted support will always be with you. God bless you and the orginisation. As regards to name of the organisation is concern....it hardly nmatters untill it is watered by pure deeds and hard work. Even JAGRITI itself will do.

singhkapoor
January 20th, 2006, 08:18 AM
Dear Anuj

Thank you very much for reposing your trust in NAJC. J. Jagriti can certainly expect financial contributions from NAJC; especially for projects that resonate with NAJC’s objective and goals.

NAJC, with a membership of 67, provides more than 20 annual scholarships, amounting to approx. 6 lac Rupees, to bright jat students. But, it’s worth mentioning here that NAJC runs quite a few projects in India that are aimed at improving the lives of people, irrespective of their caste or creed. Some of NAJC’s such non-caste based projects are:

Free School in Kalirawan, Hisar – Sponsored by Mr. Ram Arya (NAJC’s Founder)
Free School for Girls in Rathora, Uttar Pradesh - Sponsored by Dr. Jagbir Singh
Free School in Nagauri, Uttar Pradesh – Sponsored by Mr. Jaipal Rathee
Shri Sidhanti Memorial Trust, Barhana, Jhajhar – Sponsored by The Ahalawat Family

Navin had asked for Rs. 12,000 for purchasing equipment for the handball team. Mr. Vireshwar Ahlawat, whose family runs the Shri Sidhanti Trust in Barhana, has agreed to sponsor the items through NAJC..

Best Wishes

NAJC




Also we can seek help from NAJC chapter and Kapoor singh bhai sahab can be contacted for that.

Regards,
Anuj Kadyan

navingulia
January 20th, 2006, 04:39 PM
Dear Vinod,
As of now no one has volunteered for this sunday's visit. We will be going to Barhana this sunday to work on the planning and organising part. The class may start from next sunday only or maybe even a little later than that.
We have bought some books and are already working on the lesson plans/activities that can be conducted.

Dear Dev Sir,
Thanks for offering the books.
It would be a pleasure and honour to meet you. Looking forward to it.

Dear Kapoor Bhaisaab,
Nice to know about all the activities that NAJC is carrying out, wonderful.
I am financially not in a position to contribute much except for the 1000/2000 i can manage from my approx 8000 salary. But i find myself lucky to be in a position to work physically.
And my services are available to NAJC, fora and Jagriti and every one.
I have been fortunate to meet so many nice people on the net and now with the collective energy we will really be able to bring some results. I am very confident and sure.

Warm Regards
Navin Gulia

anujkadyan
January 21st, 2006, 08:45 PM
Navin bhai you are addressing me as Vinod i guess :)

navingulia
January 21st, 2006, 10:55 PM
Yes anuj, absent minded mistake, happens after a certain age. :-)

sunilchhikara
January 21st, 2006, 11:31 PM
Dear Vinod,
As of now no one has volunteered for this sunday's visit. We will be going to Barhana this sunday to work on the planning and organising part. The class may start from next sunday only or maybe even a little later than that.
We have bought some books and are already working on the lesson plans/activities that can be conducted.

Warm Regards
Navin Gulia


Dear Navinji,

I will try my level best with u on next sunday. Sorry not possible on this sunday. My 3 servers r down which is very urgent.


HEY what about the other people who have off on saturday and sunday. I personally request them to come forward and give thier services. U all should contribute in this upliftment of our villages. Being navinji is on a wheel chair is doing so much. why should'nt all member mainly our YOUNG BRIGADE come and join him.

rajal
January 24th, 2006, 04:24 PM
Rspctd navin sir,cann't we people do something constructive,for eg to provide facilites &proper guidance to all the brlnt & willing studnts,esply in villages & 4 grls.if u people r hvng sm kind of group,plz let me know,i'm willing to,as much as possbl.
with regards,
sunita hooda.
The begining of "Jat Jagriti- An Awakening"

Dear and Respected Everyone,
My trust and faith in the community's goodwill and the society's goodwill is further strengthened today. The way everybody came together to make this event a successul begining, is motivating and inspiring. I had just visited the 5 schools to inform the principal's about this event and our plan s and all of them were present at the venue in full strength and with full support. People came forward volunteeriingly and selflessly to take on various responsibilities.
A brief account of the day:-
1. We gathered together at Bahadurgarh and at 11.30am headed for the village, where we were given a warm welcome with hot Tea.
2. There after we were taken to Sidhanti Bhawan for meeting/discussion with the village elders and sarpanch. The important points brought out by village elders -
a) The unavailability of any fund in the village to do any developement work despite the current government being in place for one year. I would like to bring this point in the kind notice of Bhai Dipender Hooda.
b) Principal of the school - brought to our notice that very good students spoil their performance after 8th/9th grade in the absence of guidance. He also complained that the parents dont allow their children to be punished for mistakes and also that the parents dont allow to make the children do some community work.
c) Vaid Jee, brought out the need for moral education and promotion of work culture in students.
d) Our group members assured the people of support in improving quality of education and encouraging sports.
3. There after we were taken for the much awaited Desi Lunch - bajre ki roti, saag, chane ke patte ki chatni, bathue a raayta, churma, chawal, daal, seet
4. we went to the compound of govt girls school where the sports event were taking place. There was a huge crowd of children, young and the elderly too. The races for different age groups were con ducted. But the superhit run was that of the elderly (over 60yrs) an d it was too good, they could have competed with the 18yr olds and beaten them too.
5. There after the handball match was conducted in which some national and international players took part. The prize distribution took place in which the prizes were given away by Bhai Shailender, Priti, Ramesh Lakra and myself.
6. Ramesh gave a talk to the gathering telling them about the work we intend to do and also inpiring students to do well in their studies. I gave a small motivational talk to the children.

IMP:- I will request all members present to bring out their opinion an d feedback about what we all learnt from this event and what we should do in future to take this cause forward.
I have lot of pending work today so right now i am not adding more. I will be writing more soon.

gaganjat
January 24th, 2006, 11:55 PM
It was great to be a part of Gurgaon meet. But its worth regretting not to visit village and contribute there (emergencies happens). Hope to get some more chances to carry on for such a noble cause.

Missed what happened on Jatland as well for more than a month (infact 2 months since I came back to India)

abhirana
January 25th, 2006, 01:37 PM
Hi All,

few days back i got to read this article in frontline
below is the link
http://www.flonnet.com/fl2226/stories/20051230002404300.htm
people from rohtak can get us more details about this.

regards

Abhishek

manisha
January 26th, 2006, 05:52 PM
hi all
keep up the good work. there is a jat kalyan sabha in gurgaon which is also promoting young talent. great to know about such activities.
manisha

navingulia
January 27th, 2006, 10:34 AM
Dear Sunita Jee and Manisha, Thanks. Over a period of time we discussed and decided on concentrating our efforts in two fields to begin with i.e. generating interest in sports and improving the quality of education.
You are welcome to join this effort. Together we can make a difference.

raj_rathee
February 1st, 2006, 12:02 AM
Good show fellas. Keep up the momentum. Yoh
fauji kare bina na data karta. Great going Navin.

Err ya Priti tae ghani kasuti likdi. Kati front line
pe reh sae. Keep up the good work girl ! You are
da Wooomaaaaaaan !!

navingulia
February 1st, 2006, 11:24 AM
Dear Ramesh Bhai, Shailendra Bhai and others,
We can have an event/activity on this sunday 5th feb or the next. Since i have been called to RIMC for a talk i wont be there this sunday.
However if you and any one else is willing we can organise it this Sunday. I can inform the village and the required people will be there.
Agenda- a) I suggest that we call the unemployed youth of the village i.e those who are studying but will need a job in near future or those who have stopped studies at a stage and now are looking for a job.
b) We can collect the data (name, age, qualification) and later can work on what can be done.
c) We can also guide them to the extent we can about the opportunities we know of.
Let it be an event for this Sunday, 5th Feb. All those willing to go can contact Ramesh or myself to co-ordinate.
Regards to All
Navin Gulia

navingulia
February 1st, 2006, 11:34 AM
Dear Ramesh Bhai, Shailendra Bhai and others,
We can have an event/activity on this sunday 5th feb or the next. Since i have been called to RIMC for a talk i wont be there this sunday.
However if you and any one else is willing we can organise it this Sunday. I can inform the village and the required people will be there.
Agenda- a) I suggest that we call the unemployed youth of the village i.e those who are studying but will need a job in near future or those who have stopped studies at a stage and now are looking for a job.
b) We can collect the data (name, age, qualification) and later can work on what can be done.
c) We can also guide them to the extent we can about the opportunities we know of.
Let it be an event for this Sunday, 5th Feb. All those willing to go can contact Ramesh or myself to co-ordinate.
Regards to All
Navin Gulia

priti
February 1st, 2006, 03:26 PM
Dear Navin, Ramesh and Shailendra

I spoke to a friend of mine who works in SRUTI, which is an organisation that works with and for the already active social workers in villages and remote areas all around India. They do not take up any projects but facilitate already active people and work through fellowships. One of the main activity is interaction with the youth. I liked their approach towards social change which is long term oriented and a change in the approach of people and not just opportunities available.

If you think it might be helpful, SRUTI's west Delhi fellows are willing to facilitate interaction with the youth in your next village visit. I dont know how appropriate that is since we are more likely to connect with the people than they will be since we come from the same background and speak the same language. But i think that some professional approach might be helpful. Also, an outside eye is more objective and solution oriented. Anyway, I leave it upto you. Maybe one idea could be that if you find time to speak to this friend of mine and see how this organisation can be of some benefit to the jan jagriti work.

Best wishes
Priti

vinodks
February 2nd, 2006, 09:46 AM
Priti, Thats nice... Share my info about SRUTI with us... they have any website?... we shd be willing to cooperate with other groups but need shd be taken about ideologies of the group... If possible cud you pull-in atleast one representative from that group to our discussion group so that we can talk about possible interaction... if not then plz fwd your friend's info to us(or atleast me:)...

-Vinod


Dear Navin, Ramesh and Shailendra

I spoke to a friend of mine who works in SRUTI, which is an organisation that works with and for the already active social workers in villages and remote areas all around India. They do not take up any projects but facilitate already active people and work through fellowships. One of the main activity is interaction with the youth. I liked their approach towards social change which is long term oriented and a change in the approach of people and not just opportunities available.

If you think it might be helpful, SRUTI's west Delhi fellows are willing to facilitate interaction with the youth in your next village visit. I dont know how appropriate that is since we are more likely to connect with the people than they will be since we come from the same background and speak the same language. But i think that some professional approach might be helpful. Also, an outside eye is more objective and solution oriented. Anyway, I leave it upto you. Maybe one idea could be that if you find time to speak to this friend of mine and see how this organisation can be of some benefit to the jan jagriti work.

Best wishes
Priti

priti
February 2nd, 2006, 11:45 PM
and I thought you had retired from Jatland :-)

Good to see your message. I can definitely connect to SRUTI's fellows if Navin can accomodate them on his visits. Also, the guy who is already working in Barhana, I think his name was Bhupinder can also apply to become a member and can draw from the intellectual resources of the organisation.

Waiting to hear from Navin.

rameshlakra
February 3rd, 2006, 11:05 AM
Dear All,

The visit this sunday has been defferred till next sunday(i.e 12 feb 06).

Could we have the names of the volunteers for this.

Meanwhile, Priti, could we get in touch with SRUTI org.

Agenda for the visit will be as posted by Navin above, suggestion/ideas are welcome.We will try and be there by 9 and wind-up by 1 pm.

Navin, myself and Shailendra have confirmed participation.
Shall post more on agenda later.
regards

sumitpawar
February 3rd, 2006, 02:30 PM
Dear Ramesh Bhai, Shailendra Bhai and others,
We can have an event/activity on this sunday 5th feb or the next. Since i have been called to RIMC for a talk i wont be there this sunday.
However if you and any one else is willing we can organise it this Sunday. I can inform the village and the required people will be there.
Agenda- a) I suggest that we call the unemployed youth of the village i.e those who are studying but will need a job in near future or those who have stopped studies at a stage and now are looking for a job.
b) We can collect the data (name, age, qualification) and later can work on what can be done.
c) We can also guide them to the extent we can about the opportunities we know of.
Let it be an event for this Sunday, 5th Feb. All those willing to go can contact Ramesh or myself to co-ordinate.
Regards to All
Navin Gulia



this time count me in , will be coming on feb 5th :)

vijay
February 4th, 2006, 07:31 PM
Dear Ramesh Bhai, Shailendra Bhai and others,
We can have an event/activity on this sunday 5th feb or the next. Since i have been called to RIMC for a talk i wont be there this sunday.
However if you and any one else is willing we can organise it this Sunday. I can inform the village and the required people will be there.
Agenda- a) I suggest that we call the unemployed youth of the village i.e those who are studying but will need a job in near future or those who have stopped studies at a stage and now are looking for a job.
b) We can collect the data (name, age, qualification) and later can work on what can be done.
c) We can also guide them to the extent we can about the opportunities we know of.
Let it be an event for this Sunday, 5th Feb. All those willing to go can contact Ramesh or myself to co-ordinate.
Regards to All
Navin Gulia


Respected Navin Ji,

I can't come on 5th Feb, but please count for the next event.

navingulia
February 5th, 2006, 07:05 PM
Hi! Priti, Sorry for the delay. I was out to rimc, doon for a talk, just back.
Yes, please request the members from sruti to get in touch with us. After discussing with them we can decide in what ways we can work together to get better results.
As mentioned in the agenda for the visit on 12th Feb, we want to call all the young people – those who are studying will be advised on how to pursue their studies to get a better job in future. Those who are in need of work/job right now would be advised on possible options. We will also collect data on the qualifications/education level of the youth to brainstorm over later.
Regards
Navin Gulia

As suggested by Ramesh, the visit will be on 12th Feb, 9am to 1pm. Everyone willing to join is welcome.
Over the days leading to the visit, every one can contribute ideas as inputs.

navingulia
February 6th, 2006, 03:40 PM
The Agenda for the visit on 12 Feb.: -
We are going to meet the youth in three categories.
a) Senior boys (10th onwards) who are studying would be advised about the courses/career options they can choose. They will be also advised about what to work on as far as studies are concerned.
b) Young men/boys who have stopped studies at some stage and are looking for job – we will try to advise them about possible options.
c) Senior Girls (10th onwards) who are studying – they can be guided and encouraged about their future options. Khushi will be there but if there can be some more female volunteers to talk to them it will be great.

Very specific to the Agenda mentioned above, we would request everyone to give inputs about the options that these youth (in the 3 categories) can have. In terms of vocational courses (metric, inter or grad level) or Job opportunities open to them.

In the 3 categories we will also collect data of the youth i.e. name, age and qualification, so that we can work on it later.

Kindly give inputs/advice on the points mentioned above.

jagmohan
February 6th, 2006, 04:21 PM
Dear Navin,

Wonderful work getting underway.

May I request you and other members who are going for the next visit to also touch upon the issue of 'Controlling Anxiety & Fear', more so for students of Class X & XII as their annual exams are coming up. Those who have opted for CBSE have exams starting from the first week of Mar. In my view the career guidance could wait for a few weeks, till the exams are over. Also they could be told how to 'Manage Time' while answering questions for the exam, 'Neatness in Presentation' and related issues that I am sure worthy members of the team would be already aware of.

Keep at it.

Regards,

JS Malik

PS: An Example Given Below.

EXAM STRESS: NATURAL FEELING LEARN TO DEAL WITH IT

Common Physical reaction during exam preparations:
· Muscle tension
· Indigestion
· Sleep difficulties
· Repaid uneven or pounding heartbeat
· Frequent urge to pass urine
· Fast, shallow breathing
· Chest discomfort
· Change in appetite,
· Constipation or diarrhea
· Backache

Psychological Reaction to Stress
· Feeling under pressure frustration and aggression
· Feeling tense and unable to relax
· Feeling mentally drained out
· Fussy, gloomy or suspicious being constantly frightened or irritable
· Inability to concentrate or complete the task.

Eating Healthy
· Balancing food choices over time is what counts.
· Breakfast provides the energy needed through an active morning
· Children who skip breakfast may have trouble concentrating
· Fast food supply more fat, salt & calories that good nutrition
· Fast food is moderation won 't ruin a healthful diet, especially when consumed with green salads.
· Replace finger chips with an apple
· Add roughage to your diet - Dalia, Corn etc. will help prevent stomach discomfort and you will feel lighter.
· The golden rule for food safety is to keep hot foods hot& cold foods cold.
· Parents should teach good habits by example.

Good Sleep - Good Exam.
· Insomnia (The inability to fall or stay asleep) Can be caused by Stress & anxiety of Exam.
· Disturbances of 'sleep- wake' cycle during exams.
· If sleep struggles continue, talk them over with your doctor .

Exercise and Physical Activity
· Walk or cycle 15 minutes a day at least thrice a week.
· Avoid sitting cross - legged on the ground because this is bad for your knees.
· Avoid being a couch potato.
· Cut out junk food and control your weight.
· Swim or play a sport at least twice a week.

vinodks
February 6th, 2006, 08:38 PM
I agree with Jagmohanji's point. It would be more helpful for students appearing in board exams if quick tips for short-term goals are provided. And students themselves would be more keen in doing better in exams rather than planning long-term goals now... You cud talk to teachers if they cud spend extra time in helping students who run the chance of getting failed...

Good luck
Vinod



Dear Navin,

Wonderful work getting underway.

May I request you and other members who are going for the next visit to also touch upon the issue of 'Controlling Anxiety & Fear', more so for students of Class X & XII as their annual exams are coming up. Those who have opted for CBSE have exams starting from the first week of Mar. In my view the career guidance could wait for a few weeks, till the exams are over. Also they could be told how to 'Manage Time' while answering questions for the exam, 'Neatness in Presentation' and related issues that I am sure worthy members of the team would be already aware of.

Keep at it.

Regards,

JS Malik

.

navingulia
February 7th, 2006, 10:20 AM
Respected Malik Sir and Vinod Bhai,
Yes, I agree too that the students who are giving boards can be advised. We will work on that too but we will also keep our agenda of talking to the young about career options and collecting the data because there are a large number of young who are not studying right now and employment is seen as a more important issue in the village.
My experience with the village kids is that they don’t take tension about studies because they don’t care as much as the city kids about studies. Yes, they can be advised about their studies and the need of good marks and how to get them.
Warm Regards

deswal100184
February 10th, 2006, 12:02 AM
dear compatriot,
it is a great initiative.we really need a consolidation and an awakening program,at least the villages.if people start like the way you have and CARRY ON then surely we will be an invincible force.all the best

deswal100184
February 10th, 2006, 12:07 AM
dear compatriot,
it's a great initiative that you've taken.we really need a consolidation and an awakening program,at least the villages(THE ROOTS).if such initiaives grow even by a small number,their fruits will grow infinitely.carry on,make a difference.ALL THE BEST

navingulia
February 10th, 2006, 08:02 PM
Dear Friends,
We are visiting the village on this sunday, 12 Feb for a 10 to 1 visit.
The agenda of the visit is same as mentioned in my earlier post.
I request the members interested to contact me on my number
9213337996
9891577028

rameshlakra
February 14th, 2006, 11:58 AM
Dear all,
Following spent their valuable time at Barhana on last Sunday motivating youths.

Navin and Khushi Gulia
Shailendra Tokas
Prof. Kadiyan and Mrs Kadiyan
Mother of Prof Kadiyan
Sumit Pawar
And self.

After Detailed discussions the shortlisted points of immediate attention are listed below. Suggestion/views and also contributions are welcome:---

1. Hiring a good English teacher for weekend classes at sidhanti bhawan.A good teacher will cost around 3000 pm and additional cost of books/notebooks/pen pencil will cost 50per head*50students=2500( one time expenditure). Hiring is important for maintaining continuity and for the success of the idea it is important to hire a good, interested person(we can employ some young jat student).. On top of it an independent volunteer from jat land can oversee the entire thing with dos and donts prepared with consensus and monitoring it. This is to be taken up immediately.
2. Setting up of library and benches and classroom at sidhanti bhawan. Can start working on expenditure and level to which the facilities can/should be provided. Off hand we can start by issuing books to 10th, 11th and 12th classes on returnable basis
3. Circulations of dailies , employment newspaper has started from this weekend.
4. Decided to visit the village every Sunday in batches, the details of which will be further taken up by Navin bhai . For the time being please volunteer by sending a mail by clicking on ADD CALENDER EVETS that U ARE AVIALABLE ON SO AND SO SUNDAY/SATURDAYS. Your name will appear in calendar events in a similar fashion that birthdays appear.

Please volunteer for the good cause and take initiative with your ideas. The photographs and more details would be further supplemented by Shailendra and Navin bhai. Over to them….

Thank you

navingulia
February 14th, 2006, 06:37 PM
Dear Friends,
Ramesh bhai, Shailendra bhai and professor Kadyan were able to motivate the young boys present with their long and patient interaction. (I was a little unwell so I did not take an active part) We analysed the feasibility of holding the classes. In addition to the points Ramesh bhai has put up.
1. A blackboard, note books and pens are a must for the classes. Khushi is already working on the lesson plans for these classes.
2. I am very keen on ‘interest generating’ in the kids. My motive is that the kids should love to come to the classes. I am thinking of screening some documentary/educational films in the hall at Sidhanti Bhawan. For the time being I intend to carry my desktop for the class but later on I plan to have a computer there itself for the purpose of showing interesting presentations to the kids, i.e. it will serve as an audio-visual aide.
3. The classes will have to be in 3 categories a) smaller children (upto 12yrs) b) Elder boys c) Elder girls.
4. All members are requested to contribute magazines and books for bringing up the library where children can have reading material. We all have so many old books and magazines lying with us which we no longer use. These can help bring up a library/reading room. You can send this stuff to my address Hno. 213, Sec – 14, Gurgaon – 122001, Haryana. If you live around Delhi, I don’t mind collecting it from your place. Besides your own stuff, you can collect from friends around as well.
5. I carried the goal posts for the new handball court (money contributed by Vireshwar Sir) that has been prepared. Coming Saturday, I intend to go there and arrange to organize 2 hours of sports everyday. The sports stuff will be brought to the playing fields (cricket pitch has been setup, bringing up volleyball courts also) everyday and the boys and girls can play a game of their choise.

Thanks and Regards to every one
Navin Gulia

vinodks
February 14th, 2006, 11:11 PM
Thats great news Navin bhai... Keep us updated for future endeavours... and take care of health too!!!

-Vinod



Dear Friends,
Ramesh bhai, Shailendra bhai and professor Kadyan were able to motivate the young boys present with their long and patient interaction. (I was a little unwell so I did not take an active part) We analysed the feasibility of holding the classes. In addition to the points Ramesh bhai has put up.
1. A blackboard, note books and pens are a must for the classes. Khushi is already working on the lesson plans for these classes.
2. I am very keen on ‘interest generating’ in the kids. My motive is that the kids should love to come to the classes. I am thinking of screening some documentary/educational films in the hall at Sidhanti Bhawan. For the time being I intend to carry my desktop for the class but later on I plan to have a computer there itself for the purpose of showing interesting presentations to the kids, i.e. it will serve as an audio-visual aide.
3. The classes will have to be in 3 categories a) smaller children (upto 12yrs) b) Elder boys c) Elder girls.
4. All members are requested to contribute magazines and books for bringing up the library where children can have reading material. We all have so many old books and magazines lying with us which we no longer use. These can help bring up a library/reading room. You can send this stuff to my address Hno. 213, Sec – 14, Gurgaon – 122001, Haryana. If you live around Delhi, I don’t mind collecting it from your place. Besides your own stuff, you can collect from friends around as well.
5. I carried the goal posts for the new handball court (money contributed by Vireshwar Sir) that has been prepared. Coming Saturday, I intend to go there and arrange to organize 2 hours of sports everyday. The sports stuff will be brought to the playing fields (cricket pitch has been setup, bringing up volleyball courts also) everyday and the boys and girls can play a game of their choise.

Thanks and Regards to every one
Navin Gulia

stokas
February 15th, 2006, 01:26 AM
Navin and Ramesh have already written everything!
English tutor, a computer and a small library are a must for the time being!
I can understand their (student’s) interest in having ‘sarkari naukari’ - after being in sports (that too being in Hand Ball games only!) and done their +2.

I was very much delighted by the presence of Prof. Jagbir Singh Kadyan and his family! A humble request was made to him and he was present there from his busy schedule (that’s the spirit Prof. Sahab!). Our very own Sumit Pawar was also with us (young gun and root-cause for all these happenings!).

To be frank, I may not be as educated as like you people, but dear Navin, Ramesh and others, you all will always find myself behind you, when needed!

Keep on this good work for our/backward community!

I will definitely post the pics available with me!

Thanks to one and all from JJ!!

stokas
February 15th, 2006, 01:34 AM
Dear Navin, Ramesh and Shailendra

I spoke to a friend of mine who works in SRUTI, which is an organisation that works with and for the already active social workers in villages and remote areas all around India.
Also, an outside eye is more objective and solution oriented. Anyway, I leave it upto you. Maybe one idea could be that if you find time to speak to this friend of mine and see how this organisation can be of some benefit to the jan jagriti work.

Best wishes
Priti

Dear Priti,

Please let us in contact with the SRUTI people. Maybe, we can find a great help in them for our future endeavors!

I am in constant touch with Bhupender Ahlawat as well!

Thanks!

PS: So, Priti, you are ‘back to your business’ after some promises dear :)

stokas
February 15th, 2006, 01:43 AM
Shailender Bhai as i asked u b4 also that r u guys going to register the Jat Jagriti or not.

Abhimanyu Phougat

Dear Abhimanyu,

We are surely in the process of registering the same!

Only the thing is – we (or maybe, myself!) are trying to please everyone in the process, but without success (it has already been 4-5 months now - since we planned to register it!)!!

One more thing getting us delayed now is using ‘Jat’ or ‘Jan’ in the title?

Although, both are fine with me!

Hope to do the same in the coming month!

Love and regards!

positivelook
February 15th, 2006, 07:28 AM
Shailender bhai

Actually i was curious to know abt this cos that we are planning to conduct the national Rural convention in oct. 2006 and i am feeling that we can conduct under the Jan jagriti if it get registered up to the time which will solve our lot of problems like getting any permission from the govt. We are planning to get most of the well educated and responsible persons from our rural areas in this convention and my plans are to add maximum Sarpanchas in this convention. This will really help us in achieving our motto. Well so when the work for registration will be done lets us know and then we can go ahead with all the processings.
Together we can really create the difference. Well done for last sunday visit.

Abhimanyu Phougat

navingulia
February 15th, 2006, 08:40 AM
Dear Shailendra Bhai, it was your enthusiasm that inspired me to jump in.
As for work, pleasing every one is not possible. The work will suffer. We can just go ahead with the work. 'Jan Jagriti' has a better appeal in villages so we can decide on it straight away. After all it is more important to take the work forward.
Shailendra bhai, whatever is the need/requirement regarding the registration of Jan Jagriti, please put it up here so that we can do the required.
If some funds need to be contributed towards registration and to begin, we should contribute it. Since you are doing all the work on registration, you will have to guide us on that.
We will soon have a page for 'Jan Jagriti' where we will post pics and details of events and activities as also the details of fund collected and spent for maintaining transparency.

Warm Regards
Navin Gulia

rameshlakra
February 15th, 2006, 10:19 AM
Dear friends,

Mr. Nitin Dahiya has kindly consented to extend all the help needed to set up an interactive discussion here on jatland as the NGO wing of the jatland and to start with the following link is set up( some of u may find difficuty accessing it and it will be refined as we go along). He along with some more people have also agreed to support it financially as the tutor/ libarary needs urgent attention.

http://www.jatland.com/home/Jan_Jagriti

Navin bhai we can take up the English tutor immediately and can work on shorlisting candidate for that and simillarly enrolment of the students.

Regards,

navingulia
February 15th, 2006, 03:41 PM
Its wonderful of Nitin Bhai to have extended his full support to the cause.
The 'Jan Jagriti' page will take a few days to take shape. It would have the latest on events and plans.
As for the classes to begin, i was keen to have a small event to begin with. Something that can attract the children to come. Thats why i was thinking of screening a documentary/film that can awe inspire them.
Yes, I will talk to them today itself for recruiting the tutor. I think for a salary of 3,000 we can find a good tutor, who can spare 4-5hrs on all sundays and gazzeted holidays.
I think we should start the proper classes from next weekend and in the meantime we can work on in to make it a good start. In the meantime we can work on putting everything in place i.e black board, stationary, library, tutor and maybe a desktop too.
Regards
Navin Gulia

priti
February 16th, 2006, 01:53 AM
Dear Shailendra

I did send the contact info to Navin and Ramesh. I will send it to you too. Hope your association with them is fruitful. I have already explained our initiative to the contact person there. I am sorry I have not been as active (its hard to be away and active) but I regularly visit the thread and keep updated with the latest. I am genuienly very happy that things are going so well.

Best wishes
Priti

P.S.: I think Bhupinder is a very 'junooni' person and if he sets his mind to things he can bring some change. Would you have his contact info. (email)?


Dear Priti,

Please let us in contact with the SRUTI people. Maybe, we can find a great help in them for our future endeavors!

I am in constant touch with Bhupender Ahlawat as well!

Thanks!

PS: So, Priti, you are ‘back to your business’ after some promises dear :)

priti
February 16th, 2006, 01:59 AM
Dear Navin

Great work again! Although its a bit away in future, please count me in for any work in the last week of april (i will be in India). Thanks Nitin for the separate webpage.

Best wishes
Priti


Its wonderful of Nitin Bhai to have extended his full support to the cause.
The 'Jan Jagriti' page will take a few days to take shape. It would have the latest on events and plans.
As for the classes to begin, i was keen to have a small event to begin with. Something that can attract the children to come. Thats why i was thinking of screening a documentary/film that can awe inspire them.
Yes, I will talk to them today itself for recruiting the tutor. I think for a salary of 3,000 we can find a good tutor, who can spare 4-5hrs on all sundays and gazzeted holidays.
I think we should start the proper classes from next weekend and in the meantime we can work on in to make it a good start. In the meantime we can work on putting everything in place i.e black board, stationary, library, tutor and maybe a desktop too.
Regards
Navin Gulia

lokeshpawar
February 16th, 2006, 09:52 AM
Hi!!! TO ALL

U people are doing a wonderful job and I got impressed of this. With humble request I have to say that I also want to contribute my services for Jan-Jagriti. I am working in a NGO in Andman & Nicobar Islands as a Teacher Trainer. I am coming on 5th March in Delhi for 15 days holidays. If U people need i can conduct a workshop for students, which will include various playful activities with intersting and motivational talks.
This kind of workshop will create interest in studies and also help them to know themselves better.
WAITING 4 UR REPLY.
With Wishes & Regards,
LOKESH PAWAR

rameshlakra
February 16th, 2006, 10:42 AM
hi lokesh,
First of all nice to know that u r doing so well for ur self and it will be a pleasure and honour to have u there.I think jan jagriti will gain immensely from ur experience. If u can add ur availablity in the calendar above that would help us plan out a maximum participation from the other end.
Would be delighted to see u.
ragards,

lokeshpawar
February 16th, 2006, 11:15 AM
hi lokesh,
First of all nice to know that u r doing so well for ur self and it will be a pleasure and honour to have u there.I think jan jagriti will gain immensely from ur experience. If u can add ur availablity in the calendar above that would help us plan out a maximum participation from the other end.
Would be delighted to see u.
ragards,

Hi!!! Rakesh.
Thanx 4 the reply & for the complement.
Rakesh i will be in delhi from 05-21 Mar 2006. In between these dates you just fix any date. I'll be available there.
What i am worried about is that most of the schools conducts their exams in March.
Regards & Wishes.
LOKESH.

rameshlakra
February 16th, 2006, 11:47 AM
Dear Lokesh,

Keep both 12th and 15th or either of the two dates free. Shall contact u with detailed programme of these dates. Kindly suggest what logistics u want.

Regards,
ramesh

lokeshpawar
February 16th, 2006, 11:58 AM
Dear Lokesh,

Keep both 12th and 15th or either of the two dates free. Shall contact u with detailed programme of these dates. Kindly suggest what logistics u want.

Regards,
ramesh
Dear Ramesh.
Both the dates are fine to my schedule. I will be there.
logistically I need a hall or a open space which is out of any noise pollution and some paper sheets and pencils. Let me know ur detailed plans that will be reallly helpful for me to design the workshop.

Wishes & Regards,
LOKESH.

navingulia
February 16th, 2006, 05:16 PM
Dear Lokesh,
Welcome aboard. We would be able to gain from your experience.

Dear Everyone,
Now to hit the nail on the head.
1. We need to create enthusiasm and excitement in children as well as their parents otherwise they wont come for extra classes on sunday. There has to be some amount of campaigning. Also, i am interested to have an event and screen some documentary and powerpoint presentation for the kids.
2. We need to discipline and organise ourselves well otherwise it will be easy to demotivate the kids. We have to do some real homework before we begin. Once our plan is in place we will ve better results.
3. To begin with, library books can be contributed by every one. But the immediate requirement is blackboard, notebooks and pens (100), and I am very keen on a desktop with 3-4hr battery backup (25,000 approx.)

I want everyone's suggestions and inputs on :-
1. Enthusiasm generating in kids - activities.
2. Please contribute old books(anything informative/interesting) and magazines.
3. Funds? We can maintain total transparency here by posting details of funds recieved and spent on the 'Jan Jagriti' Page. Raising funds is a difficult question. Some suggestions.
a) Lt Col Malik Sir had once suggested that if every one agrees to contribute 1% or 2% of his salary every month we can have enough funds. It was a very good suggestion.
b) I suggest that if we have even 50 active members here and if they agree to contribute 500Rs once in three months even, we will have Rs 25,000 per 3 months, enough for our current set of activities.
c) May be some of us might be rich enough to contribute the entire sum but I feel it has to be group community effort to gain required significance.
d) I am also strictly for minimum funds till the time our activities grow and also till the time we can prove ourselves on ground.
The above was my opinion solely. Please give your inputs.
Warm Regards
Navin Gulia
I would also request all members to regularly give your inputs.
We have to do it together.

anilkadian
February 19th, 2006, 02:35 AM
hi all
being very new to jatland, i don't know much about the activities carried on by our members. i was just going through the threads n found this one....of my major intrest, for sure.
here i just want to inform u all that i am available for any type of contribution , let it be money, time or services..., for this nice attempt.
Presently, i am in Hyderabad n i will be coming to my native land (jhajjar) on 23rd Feb...will remain there upto 5th march.
u can call +91-9849654974, i am available with all my heart.

lokeshpawar
February 20th, 2006, 01:01 PM
Hii!!! ANIL
Welcome to Jatland.

lokeshpawar
February 20th, 2006, 01:04 PM
Hi!!! To all the readers,

I want to know what is the mission & vision of of Jan jagriti. If not than there is the urgent need of brain storming among us. Because without aims & objectives it is 4 sure that hum apna raasta bhatak jayenge.
Also i want to know is that how we are going to tackle monetary issue related to jan jagriti. Obvisiouisly at this moment few small individual contributions will help us to carry our small activities, magar kya yeh sab lambe samya tak chaal payega. I mean to say is, if we have to spread our activities and carry some big projects than we cannot rely on small contributions for long, aur practically sochen to koi kitne baar contiribute karega kabhi na kabhi to hamko na sunne padege na , hallath bilkul wase hee baan sakten hain jase ki ek khadi gaadi ko suroo mein, josh mein dhaka lagane toh log aa jaten hain magar 3-4 daken mein gaadi start na ho to log hatash ho kar side hone lagaten hain. Dekhiye mein Jan Jagriti ko koi khadi gaadi nahin keh raha hoon, main sirf hallath ko visualise kar raha hoon.
Why dont we plan accordingly, I mean to say is yes, we should strive to get individual donations but side by side we should also strive to get big donations both be in the terms of money and infrastructure. For this we can get in touch with rich individual donars ( indians & foreigners), corporates, funding agencies and politicians both from hariyana and delhi. Deepender hooda can help us to find donators. This is for sure that if we have to work and bring some changes we need work extensively both in the terms of activities and area and for this we will require full time paid workers, an office, equipments probably vehical and many more infrastructure items and over above their running cost. for this we need ot manage lot of funds. wwhy not to start it from today.
Agar hamko sahi maiyne mein badlaav lana hai toh hamko bahoot kaam karna hog aur bahoot kaam karne se jyada bahoot sochna aur visualise karna hoga.
This was mere a visualisation from my side.
All the best to Jan Jagriti.
Want to hear more from ur side on this aspect.
Regards,
LOKESH.

navingulia
February 20th, 2006, 10:25 PM
Dear Lokesh,
The points you have brought up are right.
1. Vision – over our meetings in the past and the discussions we had, we decided that the best we can do is to try and improve the quality of education and to encourage sports and we decided to work in this direction. We will definitely try to address other issues when a need arises.
2. We are in the process of getting registered as an NGO but that will take a little time and we have in the meantime started our small activities.
3. Governments at times start projects worth hundreds of crores but in this upward-down process nothing reaches the down part and gets lost in the process. I am therefore of the opinion that we should work downward-up, which will mean that we will actually be able to initiate changes where they are needed.
4. I, in my personal opinion, believe in working at the lowermost level. i.e. the villages, because that is where the change is needed.
5. We have begun and need to keep working consistently to bring results. We need to have a team on ground which can give its time for the work and a team on net (people all over the world) who can give their inputs to the cause. But yes, people need to be very consistant in contributing their thoughts.
Best Wishes
Navin Gulia

anilkadian
February 21st, 2006, 04:30 AM
noble and much planned activities are to follow.
but, i am not sure if we have taken FAMILY PLANNING theme as a part of our programme.
i feel that the root cause of problems should be targeted first n thereafter no looking back! How nice it would be if we can make people think about this issue...ONE IS ENOUGH...DON'T LOOK FOR MORE.
For this we need to target general public....not only students.
...i have failed twice to convience within my family even:(

Yesterday, i posted a thread 'JATs ONLY...is it okay' n today i came to know that the NAME has already been changed..:confused: OOPS, lack of information with me! Anyways, its updated now.

regards
anil

vinodks
February 27th, 2006, 09:07 AM
Dear All,

Silence has pervailed here longer than it ought. Sorry I was so tied down by deadlines of conf and other what-nots. Anyway, I thought we cud have a little talk and catch up on various things. I had few issues that I want to raise here and people shd put their comments.

1) First of all, lets talk about modes of discussions. I have been emphasizing importance of discussion group where "core" volunteers could keep up discussions. So there are different levels (lateral not hierarchical) of involvement of people in a orgn -'core' vols, donars, general vols and audiences. I think Jan Jagriti is at the point where we could begin narrowing down the concept of 'core' volunteers. This would mean intensive internal talks amonst core people through a yahoogrp(for time being atleast) and use of forums (like Jatland) as announcement/publicity avenues. We have 2 yahoogroups and some people are member of one but not other. I think we all have consensus over our goals so it would be better if we move on to one group where everyone can participate. I think Jatland_seva members could move onto Jan_jagriti yahoogrp and revive the discussions the way we used to do in past. If anybody doesn't want it plz let us know. But its imp to have closer communication among vols.

2) We got lot of homework ahead of us before we could establish ourselves as formal orgn. Like, registeration, web site, protocol for vols, donars and lastly standardization. Shailendraji, plz keep us updated about whats going on registeration process, if you need help plz let everyone know even if I don't know how can we help. Its good we got a page in Jatland for Jan Jagriti but for long term we definately need to think about our own independent space.

3) Navin, I agree with your points in couples of last posts but cudn't put comments. Yeah, bottom-to-top approach is what we shd aim at. Yes we are clear and agreed on 2 main points of focus, education and sports. And yr last trip to village was great. We need to discuss more about raising money, e.g. 500Rs per 3 month thing. As we can see nobody responded to that point. Getting this much money from 50 people is not feasible as this stage. Personally I can comfortably give this amount but thats not the point. First of all, decisions of fund raising like this should be discussed among volunteers and then we shd go all out to gather money. Getting 25000Rs per 3 months, i.e. 1 lakh per year is huge money and it brings great deal of responsibilty with it. At the spur of moment and in enthusiasm people even may give lots of money but is this kind of fund raising process going to sustain with time?
With the current level of our internal infrastructure I don't think we can meet this end in a "suistained" manner. Thats why its important to have 'core' group where people first discuss things before taking decision. I agree vols themselves should give monetory kick-start but generally vols DON'T donate money, they work(for which they sometimes get paid, like AID). But we are far way from that level of scale and formal structure. But we certainly could have some basic minimum fee for volunteers, which also means formation of a core group and involvement of everybody in decision-making. Plz put yr comments.

4) I also wanted to raise the issue of task-distribution. Once again, its the people physically present in India who are most imp part of Jan Jagriti. People like me can promise to try other ways of contribution like fund-raising etc. But we need to pool more local people in and thats where I am kind of clueless. What are our plans of increasing vols strength? Once we start as formal orgn, there will be too many things to take care of which 2-3 people might not be able to handle. Navin should have overall supervision of things but more vols are needed to take care stuff at ground level becuz few people can be everywhere at same time. So it becomes important to distribute tasks and call out for vols who is ready to take up something or other.

Once again, I want to emphasize the importance of doing some home work amongst vols who are more involved than others and come up with some sort of by-laws. I know the actual ground work matters but we need to polish our modes of operations to do that in more productive way.

Who are interested in getting involved plz join...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JatJagriti/


Thanks,
-Vinod

navingulia
February 27th, 2006, 11:40 AM
Dear Vinod and every one,
Hmmm, yes, I was having the same questions in my mind and I had put up some points at jatland and these two forums and did not get any suggestions. Some additional points you mentioned, I ve been thinking about. I 100% agree with the points you brought up. They need to be addressed. Thanks for bringing them up.
1. We need a core group/volunteers who agree to devote their time on a regular basis. Those who are on ground like me have to promise to devote their time to take part in the events and activities. Those who are online volunteers should contribute in the brainstorming part and if possible in the fund raising and support building part. We need a list of people who really want to work and not giving their name just for the sake of it.
2. I don’t claim correctness in my thoughts, I just put my ideas up. I will also need to be corrected and directed just like everyone else at times. Together we ve to decide on suggestions and ideas and chalk out our future plans.
3. I agree, we need to unite on one forum for the purpose of ‘Jan Jagriti’ and I also agree that for better results this effort may need a separate space i.e. a website solely for this purpose i.e vision, plans, activities, events, progress, requirements….
4. Funds? Is an important issue. We will need funds little or more. I had suggested one idea infact which had earlier been suggested by Malik sir. People contributing a small amount on a regular basis.
5. Registration is important . Shailendra bhai, please let us know what needs to be done.
6. We have a lot of homework to do. But we ve to decide who all are working ie. Out of the long list of people on jatland, jatjagriti and jatland seva, who all agree to work either by intellectual inputs or by ground work. Silent working will not help. If a topic/point is brought up and there are no responses to it how do we expect to get results.
Warm Regards
Navin Gulia

sunitahooda
February 27th, 2006, 01:07 PM
Dear Guliya Ji,
This kind of efforts are so valuable that it doesn't need an appreciation infact appreciation is a small word for it. I wish to know how can i relate myself with it and how can i contribute to this.
Regards,

navingulia
February 27th, 2006, 09:40 PM
Wonderful Sunita
You can definitely play an important role. Once we start the classes around the later part of march, you could volunteer to take some classes along with Khushi. We will have to classify the kids into these categories. Upto 7th standard a common class for boys and girls. 8th onwards a class for boys and a separate class for girls. You could talk to/teach the senior girls along with Khushi. You don’t need to devote all your time only some Sundays. See if it is feasible for you.

Dear All
It is accepted that when we begin things will take time. We just have to persist with our efforts and we will get results. We cant aim to change the world from the word go. We have to do our bit in the small ways that we can. Generally we tend to say that ‘hamare kuchh karne se kya farak padta hai’ and as a result nothing happens but if we do our bit sooner or later things will change.
Regards
Navin Gulia

priti
February 28th, 2006, 11:25 PM
Hi Navin
I completely agree with you. Development work is by nature slow and requires a lot of motivation and committment. Everyone's little efforts can bring a lot og change for good.

Regarding the points raised by you and Vinod. I think we are slowly beginning towards 'formalisation' of the jan jagruiti work which is good and bad. The good part is that the work can become smooth with designated roles and responsibilities and the bad part is formalisation itself, which many people (including me) dont like. There has to be a flexibility in terms of involvement of people and assigning a core group on actual work and brainstorming, forming by laws etc breeds pre-conceptions about what one SHOULD do as opposed to CAN do. We need creative thinking and work and we need individuals who see no boundaries to their work. Formalisation puts boundaries to what people CAN do.

In my opinion, instead of any strict core groups/procedures/by-laws, what we need is to keep the process open in which anyone can become a core member/general/ or audience. In my own capacity, sometimes, i just like to be an audience, when i have something to contribute to the brainstorming- i post my stuff, if i think my financial or in kind contribution is required, I will do so too in my capacity and when i can actually be physically present- i'd like to do some actual work too. I dont want to be made an outsider (losing ownership of the initiative) or an insider (losing objectivity) by formation of these groups!

I could be wrong too in my strong opinions against formalisation. This is all in the constructive dialogue perspective. Would love to hear other people's views on this. Its also great to see more female participation in the thread especially Sunita, who's actually come forward and offered her involvement. We need more people like you!


Priti



[Dear All
It is accepted that when we begin things will take time. We just have to persist with our efforts and we will get results. We cant aim to change the world from the word go. We have to do our bit in the small ways that we can. Generally we tend to say that ‘hamare kuchh karne se kya farak padta hai’ and as a result nothing happens but if we do our bit sooner or later things will change.
Regards
Navin Gulia]

vinodks
March 1st, 2006, 12:34 AM
Priti, I don't agree with you. Aim of standardization in not to make process strictly formal so that it becomes hindrance to the actual work. Aim is to make actual work and involvement of people little more systematic while keeping it smooth. Well, I guess I don't need to list out all the adavantages which you can imagine after looking at all the major organizations. As the size gets bigger we certainly need to move out of mode of working according to personal preferences and at the same time we can keep everything very general and open which can suit maximum no. of people. Involvement of particulars can be assimilated in whole process by keeping flexible exceptions but we need basic sets of guidlines, which can be as broad as we want to begin with, to keep us on direction we set out in the beginning. Lots of people won't be able to contribute in conventional ways like you, me and others. But lets begin with something which is as less constricting as possible, and modifications can be done later on. There won't as such rules for vols and etc but just very broad rules about general mode of operation.
If any new vols comes up we don't have to explain everything we can just let him browse over our by-laws and other fromal documents.

I know everything can't be changed overnight but we can atleast start thinking about it.

-Vinod





Hi Navin


Regarding the points raised by you and Vinod. I think we are slowly beginning towards 'formalisation' of the jan jagruiti work which is good and bad. The good part is that the work can become smooth with designated roles and responsibilities and the bad part is formalisation itself, which many people (including me) dont like. There has to be a flexibility in terms of involvement of people and assigning a core group on actual work and brainstorming, forming by laws etc breeds pre-conceptions about what one SHOULD do as opposed to CAN do. We need creative thinking and work and we need individuals who see no boundaries to their work. Formalisation puts boundaries to what people CAN do.

In my opinion, instead of any strict core groups/procedures/by-laws, what we need is to keep the process open in which anyone can become a core member/general/ or audience. In my own capacity, sometimes, i just like to be an audience, when i have something to contribute to the brainstorming- i post my stuff, if i think my financial or in kind contribution is required, I will do so too in my capacity and when i can actually be physically present- i'd like to do some actual work too. I dont want to be made an outsider (losing ownership of the initiative) or an insider (losing objectivity) by formation of these groups!

I could be wrong too in my strong opinions against formalisation. This is all in the constructive dialogue perspective. Would love to hear other people's views on this. Its also great to see more female participation in the thread especially Sunita, who's actually come forward and offered her involvement. We need more people like you!


Priti



[Dear All
It is accepted that when we begin things will take time. We just have to persist with our efforts and we will get results. We cant aim to change the world from the word go. We have to do our bit in the small ways that we can. Generally we tend to say that ‘hamare kuchh karne se kya farak padta hai’ and as a result nothing happens but if we do our bit sooner or later things will change.
Regards
Navin Gulia]

navingulia
March 1st, 2006, 05:20 PM
I commit myself to send a weekly report to every one on the activities/on ground progress and every one can send the suggestions/inputs. Starting coming Monday.
The new members wanting to join this effort are requested to give me their email id, either here or at my id navingulia@yahoo.com.

devdahiya
March 1st, 2006, 06:12 PM
My dear Navin and all others associated with this noble cause of uplifting the needy,

I have some questions in my mind which keep on bugging me inspite of the fact that you all are so committed and want to do well and good for the people who need it and frankly in times to come,would like to involve myself also with utmost sincerety and in a selfless manner.Here are my posers....I request people to give clear suggestions and inputs if this organisation has to do something substantial in fast changing scenario on ground in the land we ought to operate:


1] As i brought out in my thread today[Tees lakh ka killa] that situation will be different on ground as the cost of land will scale peaks after peak and as our poor farmers[i suppose they only need help as regards to Education atleast] have smelt a chance of making a fast bulk through selling of their land holdings[mind you they have not seen this kinda money in centuries], will they really need our help or they will have a drink and redicule us???

2] Even when they don't have much means,specially Jats have a tendency of expecting and expecting[not giving] how will they react after being in a position to buy comforts and education.....EHSSAN LENNA AUR MAN-NA JAT KI FIDDRAT NAHIN?????

3] What i know about Jats is that they selfishly monitor any such organization without putting any efforts to assist it and are quick to condemn it in case they find a gap of even one scale or day.....BHAI HUMNNE BERRA THA, PEHLYAN_E NA KAHHON THHA AKK YE SUSSARRE APNA ULLU SUDHHA KARAN TAHIN KATTHHE HO RHE THHE. YOU SPEND WHOLE YEAR GIVING YOUR BLOOD BUT DUE TO ANY REASON DON'T MAKE YOURSELF AVAILABLE FOR 10 DAYS,THEY ARE SURE TO FORGET THE EFFORTS OF FULL 365 DAYS AND WILL NOT HESITATE TO CALL NAMES AND INSULT YOU. THATS FORTUNATELY/UNFORTUNATELY is the truth on ground. What we do to keep them motivated and to shed their this negative and selfish approach??????

4] How many of these villagers are ready to contribute financially and otherwise to get a service at their door step....or they just want to say...BHAI CHHORYO LAGGE RAHO...and don't offer a glass of water also when you need it most?????

5] How many of them will be available round the clock to assist the team of hardworking and educated menpower coming to help their cause from towns/cities....i suppose may be one odd/none???????

6] Is it we who will tell them that WE WANT TO DO GOOD TO YOU or They will request us to help them to come out of quigmire they are badly in??????



These are the real questions we have to ask ourselves before undertaking this tedious journey? And if we can find a satisfactory answers to these questions then i am sure something worth while is possible otherwise it will land us up embaressed and battered ultimately. My posing of these questions should never be taken as passive thoughts but a reality which needs careful consideration before undertaking a voyage into the sea of uncertainity.

Warm Regards!

priti
March 1st, 2006, 08:04 PM
Hi Vinod
Great counter and that was exactly the purpose of my previous post, that in the process, things dont become inflexible and uninspiring. Your post is precisely what should be done. Thanks for this input for me and for others to delve on.

Priti


Priti, I don't agree with you. Aim of standardization in not to make process strictly formal so that it becomes hindrance to the actual work. Aim is to make actual work and involvement of people little more systematic while keeping it smooth. Well, I guess I don't need to list out all the adavantages which you can imagine after looking at all the major organizations. As the size gets bigger we certainly need to move out of mode of working according to personal preferences and at the same time we can keep everything very general and open which can suit maximum no. of people. Involvement of particulars can be assimilated in whole process by keeping flexible exceptions but we need basic sets of guidlines, which can be as broad as we want to begin with, to keep us on direction we set out in the beginning. Lots of people won't be able to contribute in conventional ways like you, me and others. But lets begin with something which is as less constricting as possible, and modifications can be done later on. There won't as such rules for vols and etc but just very broad rules about general mode of operation.
If any new vols comes up we don't have to explain everything we can just let him browse over our by-laws and other fromal documents.

I know everything can't be changed overnight but we can atleast start thinking about it.

-Vinod

vinodks
March 1st, 2006, 08:29 PM
Priti, sorry I was little rough on last post but happy that you agree... Navin bhai, thanks for commiting for weekly reports... once we get on track we can have monthly newsletters or so whose duty can be rotated amongst us... Will get back soon on this.

-Vinod



Hi Vinod
Great counter and that was exactly the purpose of my previous post, that in the process, things dont become inflexible and uninspiring. Your post is precisely what should be done. Thanks for this input for me and for others to delve on.

Priti

priti
March 1st, 2006, 08:34 PM
so the first step comes from the inspiration himself! ok, Navin, I commit to providing input/suggestions/any other help on this report. Also, since you are working in the field, you can outsource some other work to people here (like me). Infact, there is a database i think of jat seva group (Vinod) in which people listed the things they would like to do and can do for this work. This can come in handy for you to allocate work to people.

Regards
Priti

priti
March 1st, 2006, 08:56 PM
Hello Mr. Dahiya

Your doubts are quite relevant and thought provoking. But these should not stop or discourage us (and you from joining in) from doing our work. Some of the points you raised-

1. The land compensation-big money- no knowledge what to do with it issue- i think presence of people working on development has the potential of improving the situation by orienting people's mind towards education, career.

2. There would be many people in the world who would ridicule the work or just benefit from it and forget about it. This should not be a point to ponder because when one is doing such work these sort of things are expected. What one should probably be ready for is counter it in a humble way to change the minds of such people and orient them towards give and take approach.

3. Jats are quick to judge....so true. This is usually due to lack of analysis and subtle perspectives. We have to introduce subtlety of thought- the ability to view a thing in its pros and cons and not outrightly rejecting or accepting it on emotional or other non-objective basis. But again this should not prevent us from doing our work. this should be taken up as a challenge to introduce these perspectives in the minds of our people.

4. & 5. Probably Navin will have better answers..

6. I dont know- maybe it'll be a combination of both- we raise some awareness and they ask for more...its always a two way process- cant be us spoon feeding them all the time and so they have to come up with a response of their own...and they will once the directions are made clear to them....one thing to be noted here is that usually all failures in india in general are blamed on the government's lack...so the philosophy of self-help is probably the best to promote. It was to be seen in the girls in talked to- they conveniently blamed everything on lack of teachers, traditions, parents, everyone but themselves (to which the teacher pointed out- how many of you actually seriously study). This is the attitude inherited from their parents, society...this definitely needs to be changed to God helps those who help themselves...

Thanks for raising these questions, it shows your interest and concern for the work. Would be great to have some thoughts from other people too!

Priti



My dear Navin and all others associated with this noble cause of uplifting the needy,

I have some questions in my mind which keep on bugging me inspite of the fact that you all are so committed and want to do well and good for the people who need it and frankly in times to come,would like to involve myself also with utmost sincerety and in a selfless manner.Here are my posers....I request people to give clear suggestions and inputs if this organisation has to do something substantial in fast changing scenario on ground in the land we ought to operate:


1] As i brought out in my thread today[Tees lakh ka killa] that situation will be different on ground as the cost of land will scale peaks after peak and as our poor farmers[i suppose they only need help as regards to Education atleast] have smelt a chance of making a fast bulk through selling of their land holdings[mind you they have not seen this kinda money in centuries], will they really need our help or they will have a drink and redicule us???

2] Even when they don't have much means,specially Jats have a tendency of expecting and expecting[not giving] how will they react after being in a position to buy comforts and education.....EHSSAN LENNA AUR MAN-NA JAT KI FIDDRAT NAHIN?????

3] What i know about Jats is that they selfishly monitor any such organization without putting any efforts to assist it and are quick to condemn it in case they find a gap of even one scale or day.....BHAI HUMNNE BERRA THA, PEHLYAN_E NA KAHHON THHA AKK YE SUSSARRE APNA ULLU SUDHHA KARAN TAHIN KATTHHE HO RHE THHE. YOU SPEND WHOLE YEAR GIVING YOUR BLOOD BUT DUE TO ANY REASON DON'T MAKE YOURSELF AVAILABLE FOR 10 DAYS,THEY ARE SURE TO FORGET THE EFFORTS OF FULL 365 DAYS AND WILL NOT HESITATE TO CALL NAMES AND INSULT YOU. THATS FORTUNATELY/UNFORTUNATELY is the truth on ground. What we do to keep them motivated and to shed their this negative and selfish approach??????

4] How many of these villagers are ready to contribute financially and otherwise to get a service at their door step....or they just want to say...BHAI CHHORYO LAGGE RAHO...and don't offer a glass of water also when you need it most?????

5] How many of them will be available round the clock to assist the team of hardworking and educated menpower coming to help their cause from towns/cities....i suppose may be one odd/none???????

6] Is it we who will tell them that WE WANT TO DO GOOD TO YOU or They will request us to help them to come out of quigmire they are badly in??????



These are the real questions we have to ask ourselves before undertaking this tedious journey? And if we can find a satisfactory answers to these questions then i am sure something worth while is possible otherwise it will land us up embaressed and battered ultimately. My posing of these questions should never be taken as passive thoughts but a reality which needs careful consideration before undertaking a voyage into the sea of uncertainity.

Warm Regards!

navingulia
March 1st, 2006, 10:00 PM
Dev Sir,
I am giving some responses to the points raised by you-
1.If we remember from the village event, the teachers, principal and village elders had all come forward to organize the event. I always begin with a firm belief that I will get the required support and I have always got more support than needed. I am confident lot of progress will be made and that we will achieve our goal.
2. I always say ‘Education is the solution of every problem’. All evils in the society can be eradicated by spreading education and awareness alone. This was the reason I had advocated that we choose our field of work as education and sports and most people had suggested and agreed to the same. Education will always be a need and education will always help.
3. Irrespective of the apprehension that how people will respond, we have to go ahead and do our work. A good intention will always have good result (little or more) so we need not worry.
Your involvement in this effort will be a boon to the cause.
Warm Regards
Navin Gulia

navingulia
March 1st, 2006, 10:05 PM
My concern right now is to plan some interesting activities to get the children in. This is the time to work out the plan as the students are busy in exams we have some time.
How about educational, street plays (could be done on stage too). I havent worked in this. Anyone?

lokeshpawar
March 2nd, 2006, 09:41 AM
My concern right now is to plan some interesting activities to get the children in. This is the time to work out the plan as the students are busy in exams we have some time.
How about educational, street plays (could be done on stage too). I havent worked in this. Anyone?

Hello Navin,

Street plays will be helpul for creating awareness among students and there parent. But the atudents will be passive participants by just watching street play. I personally will recommend some play way workshops or theatre workshops that they can be the active participants.
I am in hurry , iwill be taling in detail about this matter to u 2moro.
Regards
Lokesh

sunitahooda
March 2nd, 2006, 09:53 AM
Dear Naveen Ji,

It'll be amazing if i get a chance to teach kids as i believe that i could not be anyone better than a teacher and it was my childhood dream- To be a teacher, that didn't come true due to unfavourable circumstances. Apart from teaching i wish to donate an amount of Rs.5100/- please let me know how do i proceed in this regard and do i give it cash or a cheque, if a cheque then in whose name it is to be written. Thanks again.

Regards,
Sunita

lokeshpawar
March 2nd, 2006, 12:15 PM
Hello Sunita,
You impressed me.
Regards
Lokesh.

navingulia
March 2nd, 2006, 02:08 PM
Hi! Sunita,
good, we need all the enthusiasm
As for donating, we will need a blackboard and some stationary for the classes. You could directly buy it rather than giving cash. i am going to chennai for 3 days today. When i get back we will have a 'Jagriti' gang meeting and decide the plan and requirements.
Regards
Navin Gulia

Hi Lokesh, see you tomorrow in chennai.

sunitahooda
March 2nd, 2006, 02:21 PM
HI Lokesh,
Thanks for the appreciation but seriously i havn't done it to impress anyone rather i always like to do secret donation and after writing this here in the thread i thought that i have publicized it and i was upset with myself and i could talk to Khushi and tell her on phone. Thanks again.

Regards,

Sunita


Hello Sunita,
You impressed me.
Regards
Lokesh.

navingulia
March 2nd, 2006, 03:08 PM
sunita, you did the right thing by posting it here because this is a community effort only and every one's contribution in terms of efforts or resources always motivates others as well.
Also, It will always be better to mention such contributions because that will also help maintain transparency which is very important.

lokeshpawar
March 2nd, 2006, 03:56 PM
HI Lokesh,
Thanks for the appreciation but seriously i havn't done it to impress anyone rather i always like to do secret donation and after writing this here in the thread i thought that i have publicized it and i was upset with myself and i could talk to Khushi and tell her on phone. Thanks again.

Regards,

Sunita

Hi!!!

I am impressed not just because u publicized but the way u came forward both for the physical and monetary contribution. Your small contribution shows ur trust and faith on our Jan jagriti. Probably will motivate others to do so.
Aree baba u did the great job, no need to feel upset. Infact, feel proud.

Smiles & Regards,

Lokesh

priti
March 2nd, 2006, 07:48 PM
Sunita, welcome to the group and all the best with the work. I hope it gives you as much satisfaction too.

Navin, how about involving the children and the youth themselves to perform street plays in their village. If they perform, then other villagers cannot outrightly reject the messages given through the plays. I know it'll be tough to persuade some, but once they see that its fun, I'm sure others would join in too!

Another thing which came to my mind was painting competititions (i'm sure together we can provide sheets, colours and other stuff required) where certains themes (like ideal village, future life, my home in ten years etc) are given to the children to paint. This will not only force them to think above their present lives but also give us a lot of information on what the children have on their minds. One key here would be not to give them hints- just the topics.

You could also have cooking competition for boys (it'll be so much fun for them believe me...they wouldn't stop giggling) and football match for girls...this sort of gives them an impression that there no things like gender in terms of what work you do! Maybe some of our boys might turn out to be chefs! Just an idea...people dont bash me for this role reversal thing...

Also, on tangent, it came to my mind that to encourage academic excellence, the class which does the best (collectively not individual students) starting this year, could be taken for day-trip picnic to places like Appu ghar and fun&food (i'm a bit outdated on this...maybe there are better picnic places now) or even 2/3 day trips to outstations. This will encourage teamwork and will work better than individual awards or prizes.

Priti

navingulia
March 7th, 2006, 10:38 AM
Dear Friends,
My return from Chennai was delayed by a day therefore I am sending this weekly mail a day late.
1. We (Lokesh, Shekhar, Abhishek, myself and Khushi) were able to have a small meeting and interaction in Chennai. It was very encouraging (the energy and enthusiasm always adds up) and we were able to share and discuss a lot of ideas. A few points, as I remember, were-
a) Need of having a mission/vision statement- it will be necessary when we want to approach any organization/ngo/govt agency/individual for support/cooperation..
b) Need of having a page to display Jan Jagriti – the activities, plans, messages, contributions and their use.
c) Need for unity of efforts.
2. My chennai experience was very enlightening because I was able to meet so many individuals from different organizations/ngo’s. There was Mr Umashankar Pandey from Banda in UP. He runs a free residential school for handicapped students where 72 students stay and study. He accepts donations only in kind and not in cash. A very good idea for us too. (it would be amazing to know that he collected funds to begin the school by collecting newspapers/books/clothes and auctioning them and also by making and selling paper packets)
3. Priti, your idea to involve the school children/youth themselves in conducting street/stage plays is wonderful. Also, the one regarding holding painting/essay writing competitions to make children dream about their future is again wonderful.
4. From my side, I feel that we should try to involve the local people more and more for better results. Our number on the net is very restricted and we need to involve more and more people on ground.
5. We plan to have a meeting at my place on coming Sunday, 12th Feb at 10 am. Everyone is invited. The agenda/points –
a) Everyone is requested to bring old books/magazines for setting up the village library. It could be novels, magazines, periodicals, text books, story books, comics, anything. You could even collect from your close friends and bring. The point is that we will be encouraging the children to read and for that there should be reading material.
b) We will decide on making our mission/vision statement.
c) We will plan out the classes we are planning to begin and also other activities.
d) Any other issues? Please put up.
6. After making preparation this Sunday, we will visit the village on next Sunday i.e. 19th March to begin the work.
Warm Regards
Navin Gulia

rajnarayan
March 8th, 2006, 01:29 PM
bhai gullia
now times for unity,so keep it up may be you are one who gave air this kranti.
are you comming on 12th march at sampla for veer jat smalen.

priti
March 9th, 2006, 02:48 AM
Hello Navin

Thanks for the update. Its great that you are so active in meeting other people involved in the same area. It always helps and gives more meaning to one's work and other ideas which sometimes an isolated brain cannot think of.

In a similar vein, there was a recent post in Raj Rathee's thread on Gender and Education Equality. It airs same sentiment as yours that local people definitely need to be more involved in this work as they will be the one who will be given ownership of this work later on to make this project a sustainable one. He has some good points to refer:
http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10646&page=6

I think this thread has a lot of ideas (brainstorming) on a broader level and maybe of help.

Anyways, all the best for the upcoming meeting. In case you need any help in designing the vision/mission/scope etc, let me know, I'm good at editing and narrowing things down.

Best wishes to you and Khushi
Priti


Dear Friends,
My return from Chennai was delayed by a day therefore I am sending this weekly mail a day late.
1. We (Lokesh, Shekhar, Abhishek, myself and Khushi) were able to have a small meeting and interaction in Chennai. It was very encouraging (the energy and enthusiasm always adds up) and we were able to share and discuss a lot of ideas. A few points, as I remember, were-
a) Need of having a mission/vision statement- it will be necessary when we want to approach any organization/ngo/govt agency/individual for support/cooperation..
b) Need of having a page to display Jan Jagriti – the activities, plans, messages, contributions and their use.
c) Need for unity of efforts.
2. My chennai experience was very enlightening because I was able to meet so many individuals from different organizations/ngo’s. There was Mr Umashankar Pandey from Banda in UP. He runs a free residential school for handicapped students where 72 students stay and study. He accepts donations only in kind and not in cash. A very good idea for us too. (it would be amazing to know that he collected funds to begin the school by collecting newspapers/books/clothes and auctioning them and also by making and selling paper packets)
3. Priti, your idea to involve the school children/youth themselves in conducting street/stage plays is wonderful. Also, the one regarding holding painting/essay writing competitions to make children dream about their future is again wonderful.
4. From my side, I feel that we should try to involve the local people more and more for better results. Our number on the net is very restricted and we need to involve more and more people on ground.
5. We plan to have a meeting at my place on coming Sunday, 12th Feb at 10 am. Everyone is invited. The agenda/points –
a) Everyone is requested to bring old books/magazines for setting up the village library. It could be novels, magazines, periodicals, text books, story books, comics, anything. You could even collect from your close friends and bring. The point is that we will be encouraging the children to read and for that there should be reading material.
b) We will decide on making our mission/vision statement.
c) We will plan out the classes we are planning to begin and also other activities.
d) Any other issues? Please put up.
6. After making preparation this Sunday, we will visit the village on next Sunday i.e. 19th March to begin the work.
Warm Regards
Navin Gulia

deepakchoudhry
March 9th, 2006, 04:35 AM
sunita, you did the right thing by posting it here because this is a community effort only and every one's contribution in terms of efforts or resources always motivates others as well.
Also, It will always be better to mention such contributions because that will also help maintain transparency which is very important.

Navin Bhai,

Keep up the good work...let us know your material requirements, Though I'm not in India but I will try to help in whatever way I can.

My Best wishes are with you.

deepakchoudhry
March 9th, 2006, 04:43 AM
HI Lokesh,
Thanks for the appreciation but seriously i havn't done it to impress anyone rather i always like to do secret donation and after writing this here in the thread i thought that i have publicized it and i was upset with myself and i could talk to Khushi and tell her on phone. Thanks again.

Regards,

Sunita

Sunitaji,

I'm a great believer in Gupt Daan but I agree with lokesh, at different times, someone needs to step up to set things in motion again.

Your response to the cause is inspiring so keep up the good work. :)

sumitpawar
March 9th, 2006, 09:13 PM
a) Everyone is requested to bring old books/magazines for setting up the village library. It could be novels, magazines, periodicals, text books, story books, comics, anything. You could even collect from your close friends and bring. The point is that we will be encouraging the children to read and for that there should be reading material.



brother will bring my alot of books and try to go to daryaganj too to buy some nice books see ya on 12th :):)

vikaskundu
March 10th, 2006, 12:29 AM
as all of us know this is a gr8 mission in process ,,but we should realise that this may our last chance in consideration of present status so we should try with a full impetus.my suggestions for this wud b

1. as for guys like me who r not near delhi but want to contribute sum channel should b available
2. that could we remote guys creating funds in jat affluent areas
3.for that we need to convice people--i.e-- some registerd offical pamphalets, especially newspaper 4 people who r not interfaced with internet
4.people who contribute should get feedback of their contribution being utilised
5.should go ahead and reach affluent people(v.imp)they might not b knowing this kinda thing exists
6.a system foolproff and transparent from an monetary point
7. people should b able see that the system is actually so..

these are my points,if of any use to the administrator..
plz do comment.

enough of saying how gr8 this mission is now is time to b part of it

navingulia
March 11th, 2006, 11:17 AM
Bhai Vikas,
Great, we need all the participation and support.
I agree with the points stated by you. Only, it will take us a little while to get things at a higher level and establish the work.
You and every one abroad or around the country are a part of it as far as the brainstorming and giving inputs is concerned. You can take some part on ground when you come on leave.
Contribution of funds is an issue we are keeping on hold for a while till we decide its use and transparency issue.
We are having a meeting tomorrow and will put the feedback here.
Regards
Navin Gulia

gajeshd
March 12th, 2006, 02:27 PM
Dear Navin Bhai and all active Jatlanders (including great photographer)

Great going, keep it up ! I eagerly wait for my next vaccation to be a part of the mission in person.

navingulia
March 13th, 2006, 09:43 PM
We were intending to meet up today to discuss the issues we were facing but no one turned up. How ever, I thought I will spend some time thinking and pondering over the issues.
1. If this effort has to be here, it has to be a community effort in either of the two ways: -
a) A group of people have to be members who contribute and work towards the given goal on a regular basis.
b) Other people who cannot contribute efforts on a regular basis can be part of the efforts as and when they can. The details of the events and activities going on will be put up here so that people can take part as and when they have time.
2. Funds? A large number of members have volunteered to contribute an amount which definitely can help start the things and is definitely needed. But if it is to be sustained as a group effort, it has to be a group effort. What I want to ask is – Is it possible to have 50 to 100 odd members who agree to contribute 100Rs every month towards this cause. My this thought was inspired by one Mr Sushil Kumar from Shimla who has formed a group of about 100 odd friends ‘ashadeep’ and by contributing 100Rs a month and by putting in some efforts they have been able to do so much good work around from cleanliness to tree planting, to helping handicapped to blood donation and so on. The point is to have 50 – 100 willing people. It can succeed only if it is a group effort.
3. Also, there is no reason big enough to stop trying. We have to continue working on it. We will visit the village on coming Sunday, 19th March and take things forward.

I have tried to describe the purpose of this effort. Please give your suggestions about any changes needed.

Aim
Through our efforts we intend to promote education and awareness in rural areas with a bigger aim of improving the quality of life in these areas.
We sincerely believe that education and awareness, in the long run, is a remedy for all evils that are adversely affecting the existence and progress of our society, be it alcoholism, crime, discrimination against women/ weaker sections, poverty, female foeticide, apathy towards welfare of the society etc.
We intend to carry out the following activities on a regular basis in pursuit of our above stated aim: -
1. Classes cum activities for the village children on Sundays/Holidays to
a) Encourage and promote their creativity
b) Enhance and encourage their knowledge of language by teaching them and encouraging reading habits.
c) Promoting computer literacy and awareness towards IT.
d) Encouraging sports and games to help build a healthy mindset.
2. Talk to/interact with the villagers to bring about awareness towards social issues. Organising street plays, using the public address system and individual interaction can be the activities involved.
To bring about a sense of unity in the villagers so that they can work together for their own betterment and that of the village.

rameshlakra
March 16th, 2006, 09:48 AM
Dear Navin bhai,

Regarding contributing Rs 100 per month.
Count me in that.

I have started a seperate thread for the volunteers to show their willingness at the thread mentioned below:-

http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?p=81826#post81826

sunitahooda
March 16th, 2006, 10:17 AM
Dear Navin.....Count me as well in this 100Rs contribution effort....apart from that 5100/- which i'll handover to you most probably this weekend or sooner. But i would humbly request you and Khushi to buy the stationary yourself as i dont even have an idea of the requirement, hence, i request you to accept the cash and oblige me as i have complete trust on you and Khushi....One of my friends has also agreed to contribute 100Rs/month....I really appreciate this idea of contributing like this....in small amount....BINGO:)

navingulia
March 17th, 2006, 07:43 PM
Dear Friends,
The enthusiasm in all regarding taking the cause of Jan Jagriti ahead is really encouraging.
As we have decided, we will try to have 100 members at least who are willing to be part of this effort. The members will have to contribute 100Rs per month towards Jan Jagriti. For the ease of transaction, members can choose to pay Rs600 for half year or Rs1200 for the whole year.
The work of Jan Jagriti as a movement and as an effort has already started. In due course it will also get registered as an NGO. Even to get started as an NGO it will need funds. Our sincerity should be more focused on the cause. Yes, it will work towards being an NGO but being an NGO will not ensure its non-corrupt nature. That can be ensured only by the sincerity of the members involved. We will maintain an absolutely transparency on that.
I have been working on the initial website to bring everybody related to Jan Jagriti on one platform. The link is http://geocities.com/jan_jagriti . Please visit the website and suggest. All the details of activities, plans, funds and their use will be on the website for every one to see. Any one can join us in any of the activities on ground at any time to be part of it.

Important – Let us put the funds issue aside for a little while more. Right now, I want the names and email ids of all those who want to be part of Jan Jagriti. Further information will be mailed to you once I have the list ready. Kindly send an email to jan_jagriti@yahoo.com to confirm being a part of Jan Jagriti (immediately).

Any querries what so ever, can also be emailed at the same id.
Warm Regards and Best Wishes
Navin Gulia
navingulia@yahoo.com

navingulia
March 20th, 2006, 10:46 PM
Dear Friends,
1. Great going, we already have 20 members who have confirmed to be part of Jan Jagriti effort. Definitely, a large number more will confirm soon.
2. Activities –
a) Coming Sunday the classes for students will be started, with an initial batch of 15-20 students. This batch would be for 10-12 yr old boys and girls (6th/7th std). In this class we will try to assess the reading, writing and speaking ability of kids through a friendly interaction.
b) A blackboard, chalks, notebooks and pens, books for library will be carried with us. The kids can use this stuff only in classroom and wont be allowed to take things home.
c) After the class from 3pm to 4.30pm, we will go to the games field and take part in and see the utilization of the kits already provided to them. We will also try to encourage more kids to come and play. We will start back at 6.30pm.
3. Jan Jagriti – registration as NGO – Ramesh Lakra’s brother (who has his own NGO registered) will be meeting me soon to advise me on Jan Jagriti registration as NGO. But I have been given a picture that it will take atleast 5-6 months of paper work processing. We will continue working in that direction.
4. Jan Jagriti - bank account- For Society account we will have to wait for registration. A trust account can be opened by providing some documents (which can be obtained with a little running around) but I checked with ICICI today and they said that a minimum amount of Rs 50, 000 is required to open the account.
5. My suggestion (please advise)– Let us just continue with the work and paralelly keep working on NGO registration. Those who want to contribute right now can send the amount to me or Ramesh or Shailendra or Sunita or anybody on ground. Those who want to wait for registration can.
6. Shailendra bhai has contributed 3000 towards purchase of books for library/stationary. Also, a new handball court with proper goal posts has been set up and the payment for the same (Rs 13,000) has been made by Mr Vireshwar Ahlawat sir, who belongs to same village Barhana but is settled in US now. Also, Abhishek bhai had already handed me Rs 1000 and some books. Above contributions have been mentioned on the website.

Please suggest and advise.
Also, request other members to confirm joining the effort Jan Jagriti.
Warm Regards to All
Navin Gulia

The list of confirmations-
Abhimanyu Phougat, Abhishek Rana, Anil Kadian, Anil Rana, Anuj Kumar, Dev Dahiya,
Dinesh Malik, Gajesh Dhariwal, Khushi Gulia, Navin Gulia, Navin Kumar, Priti Shokeen, Ramesh Lakra, Sandeep Baliyan, Shailender Tokas, Shekhar Nehra,
Sitaram Jakhar, Sumit Pawar, Sunita Hooda, Rupendera Sheoran

navingulia
March 22nd, 2006, 10:32 AM
Dear Friends,
I missed out on this, but I will put this point up. I think the students/non-earning members/house wives need not pay the contribution. In fact the contribution shouldn’t be mandatory or within a fixed time frame. Members can contribute as and when they can.
For the Sunday 26 March visit. The activity in the village is from 3pm to 6.30pm. Those who want to come can either directly reach sidhanti Bhawan or can tie up with me. From Gurgaon, we will be leaving at 1pm.
Regards
Navin Gulia

priti
March 24th, 2006, 02:18 AM
Hi Navin

Good thinking on your part...but dont exclude phd students in foreign land :) , they earn enough to pay this much...thanks to exchange rates....

have a good time on sunday...


Regards
Priti


Dear Friends,
I missed out on this, but I will put this point up. I think the students/non-earning members/house wives need not pay the contribution. In fact the contribution shouldn’t be mandatory or within a fixed time frame. Members can contribute as and when they can.
For the Sunday 26 March visit. The activity in the village is from 3pm to 6.30pm. Those who want to come can either directly reach sidhanti Bhawan or can tie up with me. From Gurgaon, we will be leaving at 1pm.
Regards
Navin Gulia

swaty
March 27th, 2006, 02:39 PM
great effort..
after seeing ur effort i too feel an urge to be a part of your team. please do et me know when do u plan such next visit. i am statined in Delhi. it willl indeed be a great pleasure if i and my husband are able to contribute even a percent in this beautiful and meaningful direction... my no. is 9873179289 thanks

navingulia
March 28th, 2006, 11:21 AM
Swaty ji, Thanks for the appreciation. You are welcome to join the effort called jan jagriti. Kindly send an email to jan_jagriti@yahoo.com
Will also request you to visit the website http://geocities.com/jan_jagriti
to know more about the activities and aim.
We will be visiting on coming Sunday, 2nd April too and you are welcome to join us. Kindly feel free to call me at anytime 9213337996 or 9891577028.
Regards
Navin Gulia

navingulia
March 28th, 2006, 11:24 AM
Dear Friends,

1. We (Sunita, Shailender, Khushi and myself) had a successful visit to the village this Sunday, 26 March. We were able to start our first class with 20 students. The children were enthusiastic. The minus point – there were no girl students but we will bring them in soon.
2. Sunita has contributed 5,100 towards jan jagriti and 600 towards the monthly contribution from her side.
3. We will be going again coming Sunday, 2nd April. We will try to get a volunteer from the village to teach on days we are not able to go because of some reason.
4. Shailender bhai will be putting up some photographs we clicked. Will also put up the same at the website.

5. The list of members, who have confirmed joining jan jagriti, is
Abhimanyu Phougat,Abhishek Rana, Anil Kadian, Anil Rana, Anuj Kumar, Baljit, Dev Dahiya, Dinesh Malik, Gajesh Dhariwal, Jitender Mehta, Khushi Gulia, Navin Gulia, Navin Kumar, Priti Shokeen, Ramesh Lakra, Sampuran Singh, Sandeep Baliyan, Shailender Tokas, Shekhar Nehra, Sitaram Jakhar, Sumit Pawar, Sunita Hooda, Vijay Gahlawat, Vinod Kumar Sangwan.
That makes it 24. If i have misses out a name kindly let me know.

Would request others, who want to join, to kindly confirm by sending an email to jan_jagriti@yahoo.com

Regards

Navin Gulia

stokas
April 2nd, 2006, 10:39 AM
Here are some photographs of our recent visit to Barhana village!

stokas
April 2nd, 2006, 10:47 AM
Some more!

devdahiya
April 2nd, 2006, 10:50 AM
Here are some photographs of our recent visit to Barhana village!


Wonderful....keep it up! I wish i could be there with you all,making my contributions? God bless people associated with this mission.Navin& Shailendra.....Yor are simply inspiring!

vinodks
April 2nd, 2006, 09:40 PM
Great work guys. Keep it up. If we cud be helpful in anything plz lets know.

-vinod

rkumar
April 2nd, 2006, 09:55 PM
nice to see some real action on ground. I am sure this movemnet will spread. Any Activity planned between 15th April to 13th May 2006?

Rajendra

sjakhars
April 2nd, 2006, 11:29 PM
Great work ! well done!
I wish to be with you all.
Eager to see you all in October.

cooljat
April 3rd, 2006, 09:59 AM
Tokas bhaisaab
very nice pics!
keep up the spirit!!
kudos to all of u!!

Rock on
Jit


Here are some photographs of our recent visit to Barhana village!

priti
April 3rd, 2006, 08:07 PM
Hello Navin and all other members

Enclosed is a succinct vision and mission statement for Jan Jagriti. Kindly go through it and comment.

Best wishes
Priti

anujkadyan
April 3rd, 2006, 08:18 PM
Nice Job Priti,
My 2 cents


To make Haryana the most educated and progressive state in India and propagating the Haryanvi culture.
(I modified the without loosing part.)

To realize our vision, the mission is to:

- Educate Haryana village youth
- Promote gender equality in education (I think in education can be removed as we shuld do it in all aspects)
- Instill confidence and humility regarding Haryanvi culture
- Provide career guidance and opportunities
- Make the youth responsible, aware and conscious citizens.

Regards,
Anuj kadyan

itsnavin
April 3rd, 2006, 09:07 PM
I am happy that it's all started with high spirits. Pics speak it all. Congrats to the working group. I think we need more volenteers to come forward and give a helping hand to those who are already in business.

Navin

itsnavin
April 3rd, 2006, 09:11 PM
Hello Navin and all other members

Enclosed is a succinct vision and mission statement for Jan Jagriti. Kindly go through it and comment.

Best wishes
Priti

Just a question...Do we want to limit Jan-Jagriti to Haryana only? Or we'll have regional chapters as well.

I am asking this if in future Jan Jagriti wants to do something concrete in Rajasthan/Delhi/UP/Punjab villages, would we change the Vision and mission statement as well?

priti
April 4th, 2006, 01:29 AM
Thanks Anuj, I agree on both corrections....

I will wait for another day for responses and then send it to Navin for finalisation.


Nice Job Priti,
My 2 cents


To make Haryana the most educated and progressive state in India and propagating the Haryanvi culture.
(I modified the without loosing part.)

To realize our vision, the mission is to:

- Educate Haryana village youth
- Promote gender equality in education (I think in education can be removed as we shuld do it in all aspects)
- Instill confidence and humility regarding Haryanvi culture
- Provide career guidance and opportunities
- Make the youth responsible, aware and conscious citizens.

Regards,
Anuj kadyan

priti
April 4th, 2006, 01:32 AM
Well, this could be discussed, i think it really depends on how the work is envisaged in future....i agree with you though that its better to keep it broad....but then too broad means less focussed....i guess geographical location inspires people to come forward....or we could have the name Jan Jagriti Haryana............

What do u say Navin?


Just a question...Do we want to limit Jan-Jagriti to Haryana only? Or we'll have regional chapters as well.

I am asking this if in future Jan Jagriti wants to do something concrete in Rajasthan/Delhi/UP/Punjab villages, would we change the Vision and mission statement as well?

anujkadyan
April 4th, 2006, 10:09 AM
To start with I think we will just keep it as Jan Jagriti and the dsy we have a group from say Rajasthan coming forward we can then name them as Jan Jagriti Haryana..Delhi Raj et al.

And I think we can always change the mission statement a bit as our work expands and based on the learnings our priorities change.

To start with I think I agree with Priti that we need to be focussed :)

Regards,
Anuj Kadyan

navingulia
April 4th, 2006, 10:14 AM
Vision of Jan Jagriti
To spread education and awareness in the villages so as to bring about a social change and to improve the quality of life by getting rid of the evils which adversely affect the existence and progress in these villages.

(Village Barhana is a pilot project and after a certain degree of success we can emulate the success in other JAT villages in Haryana, Rajasthan and UP. Our frontiers are not bound by state but by our cause. We can get the govt/administration involved to the extent we can in any of the states.)

Mission
· To provide quality education to students in villages in order to put them at par with the students in the cities. It would involve the following.
a) Scholarships for needy and deserving students.
b) Classes and campaigns to promote English and IT.
c) Career counseling and opportunities.
· Promote gender equality in education
· Promoting sports for youth to promote a healthy mindset.
· Make the youth responsible, aware and conscious citizens.
· To promote education and awareness among all age groups.
· To remove the feeling of mutual hatred and to bring about a sense of unity for the common cause of the society.
· To carry out drives and campaigns against evils like alcoholism, drugs, female foeticide etc.

navingulia
April 4th, 2006, 10:31 AM
Jan Jagriti has a commong cause - doing our bit to help in the development of Jat villages and society. Vill Barhana being a sort of pilot project. We are learning on ground with every visit and soon in near future we will be in a position to start paralell projects in other villages irrespective of state boundaries. Right now we just have to be focusse on the job at hand and being united to carry that out.
Jan Jagriti is a begining, it has a long way to go, grow and develope as a movement.

Weekly visit -
1. We had a successful visit this sunday (2nd april) too. Sunita took the class. Her enthusiasm and determination is inspiring. Great!
2. I have written an email to Bhai Deepender for opening a computer center in the village. Awaiting his reply.
3. The talk to the village is due. I am working on it.

priti
April 5th, 2006, 12:17 AM
This is great news Navin. It'll be great achievement (for the time being) to start parallel project in other villages. All it needs is persistence of people associated with the jan jagriti.

Shailander, very nice pictures! hope you are well.

Sunita to chchuppi rustam nikali...well done sis, I'm pretty sure that you kept the students in line!

Great going...

Priti


Jan Jagriti has a commong cause - doing our bit to help in the development of Jat villages and society. Vill Barhana being a sort of pilot project. We are learning on ground with every visit and soon in near future we will be in a position to start paralell projects in other villages irrespective of state boundaries. Right now we just have to be focusse on the job at hand and being united to carry that out.
Jan Jagriti is a begining, it has a long way to go, grow and develope as a movement.

Weekly visit -
1. We had a successful visit this sunday (2nd april) too. Sunita took the class. Her enthusiasm and determination is inspiring. Great!
2. I have written an email to Bhai Deepender for opening a computer center in the village. Awaiting his reply.
3. The talk to the village is due. I am working on it.

sunitahooda
April 5th, 2006, 10:22 AM
Thanks for appreciating me Priti....and yes i kept them in line....giggling and still in discipline:) and need not say.....I'm enjoying it and its best utilisation of my weekend....thanks to JaT Jagriti:)

Sunita to chchuppi rustam nikali...well done sis, I'm pretty sure that you kept the students in line!

Great going...

Priti[/quote]

deepakchoudhry
April 5th, 2006, 08:02 PM
Hello Navin and all other members

Enclosed is a succinct vision and mission statement for Jan Jagriti. Kindly go through it and comment.

Best wishes
Priti

Hello Priti / Navin,

Here is my two pence worth...

I have just streamlined the statement a bit...I'm sure its not the final draft but just to give some more ideas...also I feel statement should be written in Hindi / Haryanvi as well.

Vision of Jan Jagriti:
To make Haryana the most literate and progressive state in India.

Our Mission:


To Improve Literacy in rural Haryana.
To Promote gender equality.
To Promote Haryanvi culture
To Provide career guidance, opportunities, assistance and networking within the scope of Jan Jagriti.
To Promote Civic/Citizen Values.

navingulia
April 9th, 2006, 10:43 AM
Dear Deepak Bhai,
Given below is the vision we later agreed on
Vision of Jan Jagriti
To bring about a social change through education and awareness in order to improve quality of life in the villages by eradicating social evils that adversely affect living conditions and progress of village communities

(Village Barhana is a pilot project and after a certain degree of success we can emulate the success in other JAT villages in Haryana, Rajasthan and UP. Our frontiers are not bound by state but by our cause. We can get the govt/administration involved to the extent we can in any of the states.)

Mission
· To provide quality education to students in villages in order to put them at par with the students in the cities. It would involve the following.
a) Scholarships for needy and deserving students.
b) Classes and campaigns to promote English and IT.
c) Career counseling and opportunities.
· Promote gender equality in education
· Promoting sports for youth to promote a healthy mindset.
· Make the youth responsible, aware and conscious citizens.
· To promote education and awareness among all age groups.
· To remove the feeling of mutual hatred and to bring about a sense of unity for the common cause of the society.
· To carry out drives and campaigns against evils like alcoholism, drugs, female foeticide etc.

positivelook
April 30th, 2006, 12:48 PM
Dear Navin

This vision is gr8 and definitely if more and more jatlanders will contribute than its not a big deal. As far the response jan jagriti has got is not bad but still i think we need more people who can work with u on ground level. I feel a bit bound in this cos i m not in my home country so that i can contribute a bit physically.
Well there were lots of people gathered in recently held DJM and there were some senior members and younger members also, did u people had some chat on the jan jagriti.

Shailender bhai aapse poochna chahta hoon kee registration ke baare mein kuch progress hui ya nahi. If ur facing any difficulties than let us know so that we can try to get some solution.

Abhimanyu Phougat

navingulia
May 1st, 2006, 10:54 AM
Bhai Abhimanyu, Yes, we do need more and more people to join in both at the ground level and also on net. We are planning to work in that direction.
We had a discussion on Jan Jagriti at the recently concluded DJM but we deliberately didnt stretch it too long because Jattan ka discussion bhot danger hoya karai sai and we had an evening to enjoy. :-)
Shailender bhai had handed the documents of registration to me and Bhai Sunil has taken them from me. We are working on it and we will try and get it at the earliest.
My computer was down for a week. Now i will just circulate a letter with latest status and plans.
Regards
Navin Gulia


Dear Navin

This vision is gr8 and definitely if more and more jatlanders will contribute than its not a big deal. As far the response jan jagriti has got is not bad but still i think we need more people who can work with u on ground level. I feel a bit bound in this cos i m not in my home country so that i can contribute a bit physically.
Well there were lots of people gathered in recently held DJM and there were some senior members and younger members also, did u people had some chat on the jan jagriti.

Shailender bhai aapse poochna chahta hoon kee registration ke baare mein kuch progress hui ya nahi. If ur facing any difficulties than let us know so that we can try to get some solution.

Abhimanyu Phougat

rameshlakra
May 2nd, 2006, 11:34 AM
Navin bhai,

Waiting for the plans, is this sunday fine so that volunteers have sufficient time to plan it out.

Do let us know ASAP.

Regards,

navingulia
May 2nd, 2006, 06:23 PM
Bhai Ramesh
Coming sunday wont be possible. We will plan for next sunday the 14th May.
A yoga camp is starting in the village at sidhanti bhawan and a large number of children will be present. I will coordinate and let you know the plan in a day or two. I will circulate the plan via email too.

navingulia
May 6th, 2006, 10:59 AM
Dear Friends,
There has been a short break. My computer was down for a week.
1. We are working on the registration of Jan Jagriti. Will take its due course of time.
2. 29 members have joined Jan Jagriti but as mentioned on the website http://geocities.com/jan_jagriti very few have made the minimum monetary contribution that we agreed on. The money being contributed is mentioned on the website for complete transparency. Will request other members to send in their contribution.
3. We don’t have the funds and intention to spend on setting up an infrastructure (it’s a very costly exercise). We intend to use the existing infrastructure of schools, Sidhanti Bhawan and Gram Sudhar Samiti to carry out our activities and campaigns.
4. As suggested by Ramesh we can have a visit planned for coming week. Collecting the people of the required age group wont be a problem but we have to decide the agenda of the visit and the plan of activity we want to carry out.
5. Would request members to try get other members to join the group so that our strength increases.
6. We need to plan a campaign because merely visiting the village wont help. Would request members to give ideas/inputs. I am myself working on it.
Regards to all,
Navin Gulia

devdahiya
May 6th, 2006, 06:52 PM
My dear Navin, My contribution will be sent shortly and i will be regular here after.Wishing you all luck and wisdom!

navingulia
May 15th, 2006, 08:51 AM
Dear Friends,
For the purpose of Jan Jagriti registration as an NGO we need to have 7 members on ground here. For the sake of ease of functioning we need to have those people in this list who are readily available on ground for any official work if need be or for their signatures as and when required.
The required designations are
1. President
2. Vice President
3. Secretary
4. Treasurer
5. Executive Member
6. Executive Member
7. Executive Member

Kindly suggest names/ kindly volunteer. Some names of people who are readily available (and eager to work as well) on ground that come to my mind are:-
Shailender Tokas
Ramesh Lakra
Sunita Hooda
Rajesh Kumar Rathee
Vinay Siwach
Sunil Chikara
Sumit Pawar
Myself
Khushi

This has to be decided on first priority. Kindly give inputs at earliest.
Regards
Navin Gulia

vinodks
May 21st, 2006, 09:00 AM
Navin, All these members are sincere and legible people for board membership. I don't know how could we give input in that, but I guess you guys could talk amongst yourselves to see who would like to take what responsibilty. Appointment of these position is important to move further. I would suggest that you could also have 2-3 mentor positions in which people like RKji, Aryaji, Devji, Jagmohanji and other seniors could be requested to join. Even though these people wouldn't able to be with you at ground level nor they could be involved in all details at organization level but having them and getting their feedback once in a while might be helpful. Just an idea, rest you guys decide.

-vinod


Dear Friends,
For the purpose of Jan Jagriti registration as an NGO we need to have 7 members on ground here. For the sake of ease of functioning we need to have those people in this list who are readily available on ground for any official work if need be or for their signatures as and when required.
The required designations are
1. President
2. Vice President
3. Secretary
4. Treasurer
5. Executive Member
6. Executive Member
7. Executive Member

Kindly suggest names/ kindly volunteer. Some names of people who are readily available (and eager to work as well) on ground that come to my mind are:-
Shailender Tokas
Ramesh Lakra
Sunita Hooda
Rajesh Kumar Rathee
Vinay Siwach
Sunil Chikara
Sumit Pawar
Myself
Khushi

This has to be decided on first priority. Kindly give inputs at earliest.
Regards
Navin Gulia

krishankundu
June 4th, 2006, 03:14 PM
Just a few related thoughts -
1. We cant have perfect solutions, we can only have perfect sincerity. We should just intend to do some good work and if we are able to help 5 people and motivate 5 kids, we should be happy.
2. It cannot be an overnight change. A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
3. We have to think about the ways in which we can contribute towards the cause. We should all have a minimum aim of helping atleast 5 people and motivating 5 kids.
4. Funds will help and might be needed at times but the first thing needed is sincere action and sincere work. In my mind I am not worried/concerned about funds, I am only thinking of actions.
5. What happened on 27th was an event. Now we will have activities.
My course of action -
a) I have decided to open an education cell in the village for providing guidance and help relating to education. The 9th and 11th std which dont have teachers, i and khushi will be going to teach them on few days and i will try to organise self-study for them and to advise them how to conduct self-study.
b) I have decided to make a list of all un-employed youth in the village and to do all to get them employment/self-employment.
c) I have decided to help the 5-6 physically challenged kids to get independent and do well under the other project ASFA (www.asfa.co.in (http://www.asfa.co.in))
d) I will be visiting some schools in Jhajjar and some smaller villages soon.
More than funds, we need volunteers, people who are willing to work on ground. Sabko saath leke chalna hai. Ekta mei shakti hai.

We shouldnot be critical and negative about things. We should believe in the goodness of people and their intentions. When we meet and interact with warmth and love it alwasy gets reciprocated. I have never run short of good people. When i need one, i find eight.
I was returning that night and my car screen was covered with mud. I stopped at a house and asked the man siting there "Bhai ek dallu paani milega sheeshe pe daalne ke liye" and he said "paani se bhi patla kya hoga? aap aao, chaay paani, roti tuuk sab hai". The point is when we believe that people are nice we meet nice people and my belief in this philosophy is only strenghthened every day.
Regards
Navin Gulia
well bahi navin . its really a great work and it is the beginning . i appreciate your work . everyone now have to think abt it. let me know how can i contribute in this great work. thanks

navingulia
June 5th, 2006, 07:17 PM
bhai krishan,
we are just in the process of registration. You can join the gang - kindly pay a visit to http://geocities.com/jan_jagriti
Yo garmi chaale paad rahi sai, kuchh din mai apni activities fer shuru karainge. jib taain paper work pura kar rahe saan

ram6april
June 13th, 2006, 10:32 PM
bhai krishan,
we are just in the process of registration. You can join the gang - kindly pay a visit to http://geocities.com/jan_jagriti
Yo garmi chaale paad rahi sai, kuchh din mai apni activities fer shuru karainge. jib taain paper work pura kar rahe saan


bhai Navin manne dhyaan saa naa diyaa thaa ispe... main te uss humor me ee baddaa raya kartaa...........bahut badhiyaa kaam kar rahe ho... well wenever u hav next program like u had last time in Barhana... let me know.. i m very keen to take part n do these kinda activites... ... i made an yuva club wen i was in villege ,........ per jib gharkyaa ne dhamkaa diyaa boley akk aapni padhaii pudhaii kar le kade netaa paake sai....... we gatherd abt 30 guys from my own vollege only n cleanned many streets.. n put street lights.. but after that i moved to delhi.. n get busy with study........... now i moved up in ireland..... n planning to do something more intersted in life.... n i hope i will be succeess one day..........anyway... bhai sahb next time jab bhi jaroor batana.. n if u make any kinda meet or any other activity near diwalli that will be great.. coz i will be coming on dewalli.... abhi date to fix nahi hai per main definately aaoungaa.. ... coz meri bhatizzi ki shadi hai......welll good luck..... regards
Ram

sjakhars
June 13th, 2006, 10:39 PM
Ramlal bhai is right.
Please organise a meet around deewali if possible as I also coming India on Diwali.
Regards.

rameshlakra
June 14th, 2006, 10:10 AM
Dear Jakhar ji and Ramlal ji,

Let me thank u for showing interest here.We can organise a motivational session around Diwali, as suggested by both of u. You can also suggest a favorable dates around that time , preferably a sunday/ saturday as it would be convinient for other members too.
Navin is out for his road-trip to leh and we are planning to organise something begining of next month.

regards,

navingulia
June 14th, 2006, 12:56 PM
Dear Friends,
Yes, the diwali event will be organised, we will work on it.
Bhai Deepender Hooda is visiting village Barhana (Sidhanti Bhawan)on 18th June, Sunday and Jan Jagriti Members have been invited. I unluckily will be out to Leh. Will request Bhai Tokas and Ramesh to handle the visit. Members interested to join can join.
Regards
Navin Gulia

ram6april
June 14th, 2006, 03:35 PM
well Lakra bhai n Navin........... i think first sat sunday after diwalli will be good time for everyone........ or anyother time u like to organize... as i i m coming on diwalli so will be available for any day..... regards...... Ram

rameshlakra
June 15th, 2006, 09:58 AM
Ramlal ji, shall keep u informed of the development on this.

Regarding 18 Jun meet, i am starting a seperate thread for voulnteers to confirm their participation.

regards,

navingulia
July 1st, 2006, 10:12 AM
There has been some silence on the net but the work is on. Jan Jagriti Registration process is on, the documents are in place including moa.
The website JanJagriti.com is under construction.
A few more days and things will be in place.

stokas
July 1st, 2006, 01:45 PM
We visited village Barhana on 18/06/06.

Navin and Ramesh were not able to make it to the village due to their personal commitments!

Members visited:

1) Ashok Kumar Dabas
2) Prof. Jagbir Kadyan
3) Shailendra Tokas
4) Shobhit Deshwal
5) Hemant Chaudhary

I will update -and upload the pictures of this visit - next week!

Regards to all!

positivelook
July 1st, 2006, 03:23 PM
Great going so far tokas Bhai and others. Really appreciate u guys efforts.

Abhimanyu Phougat

navingulia
July 11th, 2006, 06:25 PM
Dear All,
1. We have now a registered domain www.janjagriti.com . I have built the website to some extent (please have a look and suggest) and have designed a logo too. The website will depict all the information related to the organisation.
2. We had a meeting on 10th July where we signed the Jan Jagriti Registeration Documents. The same will be submitted in a day or two after completing all formalities. The members present were
Shailender Tokas, Ashok Dabass, Vinay Siwach, Sunita Hooda, Dr Vinod Shanwal, Ramesh Lakra, Myself and Khushi.
Regards
Navin Gulia

ram6april
July 11th, 2006, 07:27 PM
good going friends....... i just sent an email..........n gone through website.......

sjakhars
July 11th, 2006, 10:30 PM
Great going Navin Sir.
The logo is beautiful and according the spirit of the group.
Ek jalte hue deepak se badhia "positive sign" kya ho sakta hai? and we are looking forward to do some positive contribution towards community.
I like this since childhood.

Regards.

navingulia
July 14th, 2006, 12:13 PM
The website of our social effort 'Jan Jagriti' has been launched
www.janjagriti.com
Please visit and give suggestions.
The sole purpose of www.janjagriti.com is to unite people for the cause of the comminity.
Regards

stokas
July 14th, 2006, 11:55 PM
We weren’t able (or maybe, we didn’t try) to meet Deepender personally on 18/06/06.

Actually, being a big one; Barhana village has 2 Panchayats. Both the Sarpanchs were having differences among themselves and were complaining to each other – alongwith their supporters – before Deepender could arrive. They have some problems related to Panchayati funds. I thought their problem was the topmost priority – related to the village development – in that ‘apolitical’ meeting. So, I asked my colleagues not to approach the Pradhan (our Nanaji) or junior Hooda and say, “We had come”!!

We stayed there for 1 and a half hour. Children were anxious enough to receive something in favour because they had a week-long Yoga classes. After taking some pictures when Deepender arrived; we started back!

Now, Deepender dear, you need to take serious note of this matter (the Panchayati funds not reaching the villagers etc.)!

The villagers may have some problems – and they could be solved easily – if everyone distracts themselves from politics!!

Regards to all!

navingulia
July 15th, 2006, 09:45 AM
Exactly shailendra bhaisaab
Governments have been coming and going for 60 years now with out results, if we have to make a difference, we have to work TODAY because time doesnt wait and we dont want to be written down in history as a generation which didnt do its bit.

devdahiya
July 15th, 2006, 09:53 AM
Wonderful...just wonderful is the word for your efforts Navin bhai and Shailendra bhai. Keep doing your bit and we are there with you always.Politicians have their own compulsions and reasons and hence i will request you to depend less on them for every thing.Great goings dear...keep it up!

anjana_sangwan
July 24th, 2006, 10:37 AM
Nice to know about the efforts of our community members for the benefit of society. Congrats to all the participants !!!! :)

i have a small suggestion. when all these activities for education and sports improvement are organised in a villege...... how about planting 5 trees (neem, peepal, vat vriksh etc.) over there and request the villegers to take their responsibilty.

it will keep them associated to the activities even when the activists are not there. on the other hand, it will also add a little more fresh air to our environment.

or, we can even do it like this: plant 5 trees and give responsiblity of those 5 trees to 5 families of the villege. we can check the growth/ condition of the plants on every visit and plant more for more families. in this manner, not only the elders will understand the need of environment safety, but even their children will grow up with this culture of taking care of plants in their surroundings.

Regards

rkumar
July 24th, 2006, 11:50 AM
Exactly shailendra bhaisaab
Governments have been coming and going for 60 years now with out results, if we have to make a difference, we have to work TODAY because time doesnt wait and we dont want to be written down in history as a generation which didnt do its bit.

Our Panchayats need to be educated into modern management. Unfortunately this is not done, probably for vested interests by administration, lest they demand their rightful share of resources. Most Panchayats have no clue of various rural schemes and there is no effort on the part of administration to keep them informed. Like new MPs are given orientation, newly elected Panchayat members are also needed to be oriented into administrative procedures and then there should be regular workshops to educate them. In the absence of education, our Panchayats have become nothing more than battlegrounds. If trained properly, Panchayats can take over village administration in totality and can do wonderful things.

RK^2

navingulia
July 31st, 2006, 01:09 PM
Anjana jee, Thanks for the appreciation.
Your suggestion about tree planting is good, however at present it is a small effort and our hands are full as we are just begining.
Also, we decided to focus on education to begin with but as and when we get an opportunity to address any other issue we wont let the chance go. Also, if you wish to join the effort and become a member, i would request you to visit the website www.janjagriti.com and send your details to we@janjagriti.com
Regards
Navin Gulia

navingulia
July 31st, 2006, 01:23 PM
RK Sir, you have hit the nail on the head. Educating the masses holds the key to all issues. If we want change, education and awareness is the only it is going to happen.
i am really looking forward to your settling back so that we can start some similar efforts in UP, shamli and around maybe to begin with.
Regards
Navin Gulia

shamshermalik
August 11th, 2006, 07:49 AM
Hi Naveen I have a suggestion..there are members from each district in the Jatland...try to find out members who can manage the Jan Jagriti at district level...I think that should be the next step along with other regular activities as sheduled...it will take time but certainly in some time you can have a chapter in each district. It will help to spread the movement faster.

Shamsher

shamshermalik
August 11th, 2006, 07:52 AM
One more thing better get it registered.

sunitahooda
August 11th, 2006, 11:44 AM
Dear Shamsher....the registration is already under process and regarding the district level activity i would say that it depends on members because social work can be forced/imposed on a person. But its a good suggestion and after the Pilot project start to run smoothly this can be started on a district level....Jan Jagriti has a long way to cover and keep in motion
One more thing better get it registered.

shamshermalik
August 11th, 2006, 05:18 PM
Dear Shamsher....the registration is already under process and regarding the district level activity i would say that it depends on members because social work can be forced/imposed on a person. But its a good suggestion and after the Pilot project start to run smoothly this can be started on a district level....Jan Jagriti has a long way to cover and keep in motion


Akele chale the karvan ho gayaa. Such projects need patient but if you continue working certainly gather pace...I will try to be part of it and do as much as I can. I am currently involved with three other NGOs but as I am in USA now so cannot do as much as I want but will try to add more people to your movement. Let me know when you want to start a chaptor in Hisar district.

Good luck and keep going.

Shamsher

navingulia
August 12th, 2006, 09:40 AM
Dear Shamsher bhai,
If there are people who want to join 'Jan Jagriti' and if there are people who want to start a paralell effort in any district/village, it will be Wonderful!.
'Jan Jagriti', to succeed, has to be a community effort.
Just like Sunita said, we cant force this effort on people but when volunteers want to join/ start paralell efforts in any district/village, that is exactly the purpose of Jan Jagriti.
Please have a look at www.janjagriti.com to know about the vision/mission and plans.
Also, let us know how you wish to coordinate an effort in hissar.
Regards
Navin Gulia

ssgoyat
August 12th, 2006, 06:06 PM
Hi Naveen I have a suggestion..there are members from each district in the Jatland...try to find out members who can manage the Jan Jagriti at district level...I think that should be the next step along with other regular activities as sheduled...it will take time but certainly in some time you can have a chapter in each district. It will help to spread the movement faster.

Shamsher



yes we should search and contact the jatland.com members who are active DISTRICTWISE........................ their probability would be more

anilkadian
August 22nd, 2006, 02:26 AM
Dear all
I wish if i can participate in any Janjagriti meeting/get-together.
I will be available in NCR from 11/10 to 24/10.
do we have any meeting planned during this period?
Wanna Participate actively...
Regards
anil

navingulia
August 23rd, 2006, 08:26 AM
Bhai Anil,
We dont have fixed date/plans for Diwali but we want to carry out some educational campaign/activity at that time. Will definitely let you know as soon as we have something finalised.
Best Wishes
Navin Gulia

anilkadian
August 24th, 2006, 07:26 AM
waiting for the moment Naveen Bhai....
Thanks for concern

navingulia
August 31st, 2006, 01:44 PM
Dear Friends,
Karan has settled down in the village. He was very excited about it all. He has been introduced to the teachers at the village schools. The 9th and 10th standard students didn’t have a maths teacher for long. He has eagerly taken on this responsibility too. Brother Ramesh has volunteered to make 2-3 visits to help him out and also to work and see other options.
I have a few suggestions:-
1. We can make this option available on the website too, with the necessary requirements. I mean, volunteers who want to stay and work in villages for a period of time. We can coordinate it.
2. I feel, we should decide to take a computer to the village. It can be used as an Audio visual aide for making presentations to the children and is a very good crowd puller (in this case the kids). Please keep in mind that it is not for introducing computer education straight away (we aren’t equipped for that), it is to attract the children to the class and using it as an aide to give interesting and educative presentations. The exercise would require 10-15000 one time and if we want we can do it straightaway. I would strongly recommend it.
3. A third suggestion came from Ramesh and I personally will second that as I have been thinking on same lines. The suggestion is that, there shouldn’t be any fee to join or associate with this effort. Whatever funds we collect should be in form of donations alone. I mean fee should not be a compulsion. We feel we will have more and motivated volunteers that way.
Request your suggestions/advice on this at the earliest.
Regards
Navin Gulia

navingulia
September 5th, 2006, 01:20 PM
Dear Friends,
Every one would be glad to know that Jan Jagriti is now a registered organisation.
In a few days time we will have a bank account in the organisation's name.
Warm Regards
Navin Gulia

sjakhars
September 5th, 2006, 01:26 PM
Thats a great news Navin bhai.
Thanks.

sunitahooda
September 5th, 2006, 02:09 PM
Navin its a very good news....at last:)

positivelook
September 5th, 2006, 04:07 PM
Its a great news Navin that Jan jagriti is a registered NGO from today.
Really nice efforts from You and Tokas bhai and Lakra bhai and by Sunita also.
Well i was in India but didn't meet u guys cos of my busy schedule. But nyway i m coming back in India in Oct. near diwali so if u guys can manage a get- together that would be great.

Abhimanyu Phougat

skarmveer
September 5th, 2006, 06:18 PM
Congrets to you and all team members for this news.

with Regards
Karmveer Chahal


Dear Friends,
Every one would be glad to know that Jan Jagriti is now a registered organisation.
In a few days time we will have a bank account in the organisation's name.
Warm Regards
Navin Gulia

skarmveer
September 5th, 2006, 06:30 PM
Bhai Naveen Ji

I have one advice for the meeting, if all the members are available then make it on 16.09.06 at DJM's place well before DJM and it will very much
conveniant and time saving. I hope most of the members are from Jatland.com.

With Regards
Karmveer Chahal

navingulia
September 5th, 2006, 07:47 PM
Dear Sir,
We will have a Jan Jagriti discussion at the same venue. I would request those interested to arrive an hour early.
Regards
Navin Gulia

trueblueindian
September 6th, 2006, 01:47 PM
couldnt hear better stuff than this guys, hats off to u all, i wish i can also be a part of such a change in our socitey.

KEEP IT UP GUYS

priti
September 6th, 2006, 06:33 PM
Great job People, good to see so many responses to this inititative...Well done, jan jagriti team :)

rameshlakra
September 8th, 2006, 12:15 PM
Congratualtions to Navin and all the people who worked hard on this.
My request to the members here is to provide good publicity to people compassionate to education and rural society. A few good word of mouth and a link of the site can do wonders. More volunteers and a little coordination can see it spread to a number of villages.

My wishes to such a noble cause.

aphougat
September 10th, 2006, 09:25 PM
If u could pl tell the date n venue for Jan Jagriti discussion i would surely like to attend and even work for the org whenever possible...... good work keep it up

rameshlakra
September 11th, 2006, 12:03 PM
There is going to be discussion about JJ, its recent registration and fund raising, future plans etc, during 16th Delhi Jat Meet being organised at Bijwasan.
May be rest of the plans and meet will be able to come out with after 16 meeting. Let me place my appreciation and welcome u in showing interest to join us.

Regards,

navingulia
September 18th, 2006, 12:42 PM
Dear Friends,
We had a good healthy discussion in the meeting
on 16th Sep 06. Every
one's enthusiasm and eagerness to contribute to
the cause was very
encouraging and inspiring.
1. Shiv Karan also attended the meet. He has
bought a large number of
books for the village children. He talked about
his plans for a 4 month
syllabus/course of teaching which he has
prepared.
2. Pro Kadyan suggested that we address the kids
at the schools itself and
also that every member should agree to devote
atleast one working day in a
month to visit the schools. He and Dr Vinod
Shanwal have volunteered to
visit on every 1st working day of the month.
3. Bhai Sandesh suggested that we all can have
better communication
through the net if we add each other on a
messenger service. He also
suggested updating the website with more features
and latest info(will be
done soon) and drafting a letter of
intro/proposal of JJ cause which can
be put up to different agencies for funding and
support.
4. The need to expand our network/group was also
felt. It was decided that
each member will introduce JJ to atleast four
more possible members.
Warm Regards
Navin Gulia

navingulia
September 20th, 2006, 02:22 PM
Dear Friends,
On 15th October Jan Jagriti will have a meeting in the village Barhana, which as all might be aware, is the second village on Sampla-Beri Road.
Agenda of the meeting:-
1. Discuss the progress made till now and the plans for future activities.
2. Take stock of the activities going on.
3. Getting together as Jan Jagriti. Some members who are coming on Diwali can meet others and see the activities too.
Since 15th Oct is a Sunday maximum members should be able to take part.
Suggestions/queries in this regard are welcome.
Warm Regards
Navin Gulia
for Team JJ

rameshlakra
September 22nd, 2006, 10:40 AM
I am attaching a list of members along with their contact info, who attended DJM/JJ meet at Bijwasan on 16th of this month.

rajeshrathee
September 23rd, 2006, 03:08 AM
Lakra ji

My mail id is rajesh3140@................. not Rrajesh3140..............
Secondly i think Mr Karamvir is from North Ghonda and not Ghanda.

Kindly make ammendments

rameshlakra
September 25th, 2006, 11:50 AM
Amended list is as attached

rameshlakra
October 9th, 2006, 10:58 AM
Dear all,

Link below is a relevant post to this thread.


http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?p=118349&posted=1#post118349

navingulia
October 10th, 2006, 09:53 AM
Dear Friends,
1. As decided earlier, we will be visiting the village on 15th October. We should be at Sidhanti Bhawan by 10am.
2. Please confirm your attendance so that we can better coordinate the travel.
3. The agenda is to meet and discuss and plan. Every one is welcome to give their inputs.
Warm Regards
Navin Gulia
for Team JJ

skarmveer
October 10th, 2006, 10:11 AM
I like to go their if every things go's well, You please let me know the programme and how to proceed for Barahana.

Regards
Karmveer Chahal

Dear Friends,
1. As decided earlier, we will be visiting the village on 15th October. We should be at Sidhanti Bhawan by 10am.
2. Please confirm your attendance so that we can better coordinate the travel.
3. The agenda is to meet and discuss and plan. Every one is welcome to give their inputs.
Warm Regards
Navin Gulia
for Team JJ

navingulia
October 11th, 2006, 09:21 AM
Dear Karamveer Sir,
If you reach Sampla and take bypass then the second road going left is the one going to Beri. Barhana is the second village on this road.
Sidhanti Bhawan is after crossing the village just before the water treatment plant('diggi') on the left.
In case of any problem, you can contact me on phone.
Will be talking to you soon on this.
Regards
Navin Gulia
9213337996

sidchhikara
October 18th, 2006, 03:48 AM
Navin bhai,
I was wondering how hard would it be to send money from outside India. I know Paypal is one way of doing it. Do you any more information on it?

Thanks

trueblueindian
October 31st, 2006, 05:38 PM
Navin bhai,
I was wondering how hard would it be to send money from outside India. I know Paypal is one way of doing it. Do you any more information on it?

Thanks

well siddharth i guess u can send it through western union n even indian postal service has tied up wid WU or sum other agency. sendin n receving money frm india should not be a problem these days

navingulia
November 6th, 2006, 01:41 PM
Dear Friends,
1. All required documents have been submitted
with ICICI bank for our NGO
account and fcra (foreign exchange account). Our
account should be
functional by coming Friday.
2. Myself and Khushi visited the village
yesterday the 5th Nov.
a) The amount of goodwill and support Karan
has earned is wonderful.
b) We had a arya samaj yagya at sidhanti
bhawan (photo attached).
c) Shri Vireshwar Ahlawat, who was visiting
from US with family,
attended the hawan. He has assured his support to
the efforts.
3. Now we have to start working full time on our
plans running upto 25th
December when we complete our first year. I
request every one's inputs as
to what should we do to give a major thrust to
our efforts as we reach the
end of our first year.
Best Wishes and Warm Regards
Navin Gulia
for Team JJ

navingulia
November 6th, 2006, 01:57 PM
The picture of the hawan at sidhanti bhawan

devdahiya
November 6th, 2006, 02:06 PM
Dear Friends,
1. All required documents have been submitted
with ICICI bank for our NGO
account and fcra (foreign exchange account). Our
account should be
functional by coming Friday.
2. Myself and Khushi visited the village
yesterday the 5th Nov.
a) The amount of goodwill and support Karan
has earned is wonderful.
b) We had a arya samaj yagya at sidhanti
bhawan (photo attached).
c) Shri Vireshwar Ahlawat, who was visiting
from US with family,
attended the hawan. He has assured his support to
the efforts.
3. Now we have to start working full time on our
plans running upto 25th
December when we complete our first year. I
request every one's inputs as
to what should we do to give a major thrust to
our efforts as we reach the
end of our first year.
Best Wishes and Warm Regards
Navin Gulia
for Team JJ




My dear Navin,
If possible then please arrange a meet Between 03 Dec-16 Dec.Hope it is possible!

navingulia
November 7th, 2006, 07:37 AM
Respected Dev Sir,
We will keep the dates in mind while planning the activities. We will definitely be able to meet on ground as activities will be on.
Warm Regards
Navin Gulia

navingulia
November 10th, 2006, 08:54 AM
Dear Friends,
As we approach one year of our efforts with Jan Jagriti, its heartening
that with every one's cooperation and efforts we have been able to make
some progress-
1. Jan Jagriti becoming a registered NGO
2. www.janjagriti.com
3. Our bank account with ICICI in name of 'Jan Jagriti Evam Kalyan
Sanstha' should become functional today.
4. Thanks to Karan's efforts our classes in the village have gained
momentum and populartiy among the children.

Now, with the funds and volunteers coming in, we can make good progress
in
our activities and plans.

Our one year is ending on 25th December and I propose an event in the
village on this occasion. More than a celebration, it ought to be
something creative and productive. Something that can bring the people
together.
Would request members to come up with ideas about the same. Members can
also volunteer organising specific parts of the event/activities.

Warm Regards
Navin Gulia
for team JJ