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anilsangwan
August 20th, 2006, 07:11 PM
Hi,

I was wondering, we Jats have been following some kind "Reeti-Riwaaz"...esp more in Rural and sub urban areas... this makes us really proud that we have been following. But was thinking what could be the logic / rationale behind the same?

I am listing a few..

1. Chhori ne vida karte waqt gaadi ke tyre pe paani daalna...lugaaiyon ka geet gaana?

2. Chhori tein jaroor peese dena, Bhaat bharna etc?

3. Chhori ke gharaan paani bhi na peena?

4. Bujurg se saath khaat pe sirhaaney ki aur na baithna..

Please add more...and if possible, write what can be reason behind the same..

downtoearth
August 20th, 2006, 11:56 PM
Hi,

I was wonder

I am listing a few..
4. Bujurg se saath khaat pe sirhaaney ki aur na baithna..

Please add more...and if possible, write what can be reason behind the same.. o bhai liley,,, kelleay le jana kyu bhull gaya?:p;)

saaryaan mein nd riwaaz>>...pehley din saaliyaan ka rooti mein ghana namak ya loggard bhar key jijey tahi khuan ka majak ......:p;).

sandook khulwaayi,,dewar ka gooddyaan mein bethna
thaapa lagwan ka riwaaz
banney bethna,, teal taarna
koordey marna,,kangna khelna,,,buudhey ki dhariwal ki chadder dena:p,,,bhaat nyoond ke aana,,paatdey chadna,, bhaat ka badaa laadu dena,,,chorery hoowey pey thaal bajana,,, feeryaan pey mama ka choori ney lyaana,,,juttey lakoona.................. rey jelli aaley jaat,, ghaney ey sein riwaaz to......:)

anilsangwan
August 21st, 2006, 06:47 AM
O Bhai Naas thaa diya re..... Menne saare note kar liye sein bhai... saare ke saare ND aale... Jibbey to menne yoh "Taaga" shuru kara sei bhai... ghanni e isi cheez likadd ke aawengi.... Thanks bro...

Aar haan... bhaat nyoondan khatir gudd ki bhelli le ke jaya karein.... Mere bhai ke byah mein apni maa ne mein le gya tha mama ke gaam mein ... baddi mushkil tein kise baaniye ki dukan tein bhelli tohi thee menne ( mein to nyu kahoo tha ki Maa 5 killo gudd le chaal....ek e baat sei...par Maa Bhelli bina maani e na...).... he he he he

Kelley Le jaana... ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...Kelley aali baat pe to kayee jokes bhi sein bhai susraad ke....



o bhai liley,,, kelleay le jana kyu bhull gaya?:p;)

saaryaan mein nd riwaaz>>...pehley din saaliyaan ka rooti mein ghana namak ya loggard bhar key jijey tahi khuan ka majak ......:p;).

sandook khulwaayi,,dewar ka gooddyaan mein bethna
thaapa lagwan ka riwaaz
banney bethna,, teal taarna
koordey marna,,kangna khelna,,,buudhey ki dhariwal ki chadder dena:p,,,bhaat nyoond ke aana,,paatdey chadna,, bhaat ka badaa laadu dena,,,chorery hoowey pey thaal bajana,,, feeryaan pey mama ka choori ney lyaana,,,juttey lakoona.................. rey jelli aaley jaat,, ghaney ey sein riwaaz to......:)

jyoti4679
August 21st, 2006, 06:37 PM
Good thing you have started. i think if people participate in this, we can document our cultural traditions and i think this will defenately help in awareness about our reeti riwaz.

first of all i wold like to answer above questions:

1. we do not sit on sirahne with an elderly person to give him/her due respect.
2. parents do not drink water or eat anything at their doughter's place because it considered a 'karz'. Why Debt? because at the time of merrige they perform kanyadaan.
3. people (specially ladies) pour water with a kalash (lota) that is called sail karna, that is performed on many occations, not only after vidai. a kalash signifys so many things and it is considered the most aouspicious symbol in our hindu religion from the time of vedic age. it signify life, prosperity, heppiness in its fullest form.
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we can devide our reeti riwaz mejorly into two heads:-
1. religious
2. social
Again social coustoms are mainly related with three main occassions in life:
1. child birth-Janam
2. Merriage- Shadi Byah
3. Death.


i will add on somthing to the list next time till keep going.

deepakchoudhry
August 21st, 2006, 07:23 PM
feeryaan pey mama ka choori ney lyaana ??

Can someone pls explain this.

Cheers,

Deepak

captkalkal
August 28th, 2006, 10:36 PM
Dear,

Atleast I can reply to one of the queries :

Pahiyen par paani isliye dala jata hai ki purane dinon mein log baag
gaadiyon meil chala karte aur gaadi ka pahiyan jis dhuri par ghumta tha wo
garam ho jaya karti.

That's why water to keep it cool.:cool:

RamRam,
Capt Pawan.


Good thing you have started. i think if people participate in this, we can document our cultural traditions and i think this will defenately help in awareness about our reeti riwaz.

first of all i wold like to answer above questions:

1. we do not sit on sirahne with an elderly person to give him/her due respect.
2. parents do not drink water or eat anything at their doughter's place because it considered a 'karz'. Why Debt? because at the time of merrige they perform kanyadaan.
3. people (specially ladies) pour water with a kalash (lota) that is called sail karna, that is performed on many occations, not only after vidai. a kalash signifys so many things and it is considered the most aouspicious symbol in our hindu religion from the time of vedic age. it signify life, prosperity, heppiness in its fullest form.
************************************************** ********
we can devide our reeti riwaz mejorly into two heads:-
1. religious
2. social
Again social coustoms are mainly related with three main occassions in life:
1. child birth-Janam
2. Merriage- Shadi Byah
3. Death.


i will add on somthing to the list next time till keep going.

jyoti4679
August 29th, 2006, 05:10 PM
Dear,

Atleast I can reply to one of the queries :

Pahiyen par paani isliye dala jata hai ki purane dinon mein log baag
gaadiyon meil chala karte aur gaadi ka pahiyan jis dhuri par ghumta tha wo
garam ho jaya karti.

That's why water to keep it cool.:cool:

RamRam,
Capt Pawan.

Dear Mr. Pawan Kalkal

what you have written may be the scientific reseason.
what i have written is the symbolical meaning of that action which is mentioned in so many ancient texts also related with rituals and religious social practices.

if you ask your elders they will also give you similar reasons.

thanks

nd-chora
August 29th, 2006, 06:51 PM
Anil re ghanniye cheej yaad aagi yo thread padh ke..

chori ka doosher,teesher ar choochhak.
ar ek issi cheej sei bhai ya te kitte pawwe ye kouna....MODD.
kai sports bhi sein bhai......BITTI-DANDA, DILAM-DILL KUHADIYA(suna sei ke yu), ar bhai kimme bhi na paawe KHELANN KA te aa jao PAKDAMM-PAKDAI, KHULIYYA etc.

ar bhai SAANG( eb te band se hogge).
loogaiyan ka DHAATTA( jismein sirf aankh-aankh deekha karren :rolleyes: )

bhai anil ghanniye sein ke-ke likhun.
We are lucky and should be proud that god blessed us so rich culture....no comparison yaar.

anilsangwan
August 29th, 2006, 07:15 PM
Bilkul Sahi Dangi bhaisaab, Jyoti and Capt kalkal..

Thanks so much for adding all this to the thread,...

captkalkal
August 29th, 2006, 09:41 PM
Jelli Aalle Anil,

Ek aur yaad aa gyi, jo yo THAPA ho hai nai yo hoya karta ek proof,
yo pahelde jamane main fingerprint ka kaam karya karta.

Kade dhyan diya ho to aapanle budhe Thape aale kurte nai baarat main te ulte jaate saath sandook main dhar diya karte.( Ek khaas baat ya bhi thi ek daaki kati naya kurta shimaya karte jispe Company ka chaapa (stamp) bi nyu ka nyu dikhya karta:) ).

Ek addition main bi kar dyun. Bhaat main NANA kadye nahin jaya karta,
koi karan hai ke ??

Ram Ram,
Capt Pawan Kalkal,

'VEER BHOGYA VASUNDHARA'

jyoti4679
August 30th, 2006, 01:35 PM
hello all

dangi ji aapne sahi bataya aaj kaal moad jaise chise to gayab hi ho gayi hai. in my last memory i have seen moad in my cousins wedding almost 20 years back when i was little child.
- hamre reeti riwajo me shadi ke time me baan baithana, tel chadana utarna, ubtan, mahendi, mandha pujana etc to ladka- ladki ki shadi me ek jaise hi hote hai per kuch jagah inme antar hota hai jaise Chak pujana har jagah nahi hota.

kya aap logon me se koi bata payega ki jab kisi ki death ho jati hai or kanagaton me uske naam se teen roti hi kyon nikalte hain?

jyoti

sunitahooda
August 30th, 2006, 02:12 PM
Anil...tanney kyu iski dookhti ragg pakadd li....dekh koonsa riwaz dhyan aaya sai iss kai....;) :D koye na Rups kalli manna maane tere naam ka logadd bi koye tai sangwa kai dhar ri hogi ....killki
o bhai liley,,, kelleay le jana kyu bhull gaya?:p;)

saaryaan mein nd riwaaz>>...pehley din saaliyaan ka rooti mein ghana namak ya loggard bhar key jijey tahi khuan ka majak ......:p;).

sandook khulwaayi,,dewar ka gooddyaan mein bethna
thaapa lagwan ka riwaaz
banney bethna,, teal taarna
koordey marna,,kangna khelna,,,buudhey ki dhariwal ki chadder dena:p,,,bhaat nyoond ke aana,,paatdey chadna,, bhaat ka badaa laadu dena,,,chorery hoowey pey thaal bajana,,, feeryaan pey mama ka choori ney lyaana,,,juttey lakoona.................. rey jelli aaley jaat,, ghaney ey sein riwaaz to......:)

sunitahooda
August 30th, 2006, 02:18 PM
Baalak hoye paachey....
Chhochakk dena...
Peeliyaa dena....
Kuaa poojna....
Teel baandhna....
Sankrant pai mannana....
Kothli dena:)
Naye makaan ke muhurat pai TOTTA BAANDHNA:D
Byah mai Jeth pai Fulljhaddi baandhwana
Teejaan pai Saanjhi banana
Chottey balkaan ka Dashottan karna
Byahle nai baan bithana/ tel chadhana

devdahiya
August 30th, 2006, 07:52 PM
Mama ka chhorri ko pheryan pei uthha ke lyanna; Basically to remind the girl that one day my sister [mother of the girl] also came to this house like you and look ...today she has done her duty towards you and now it is your turn to do that duty.


Anil its very emotional thread all the way:

There are so many things which we are missing out on today:

Bateu ka rappiya
Betteu ke aagge-2 challna
Tau harr ki appne father tein bi jyadda izzat karrna
Baddon ke samhi unchhi aawaz mei baat na karrna
Gurru ki izzat baap se jyadda karrna
Pehla tuuk todd kei jannawarra nei denna
Ghuddchaddi karwaati hanna Mandir mei jarrur janna
Bhai ghanni e baat sein pachchhe likhunga.

Thanks

ashwanikalkal
August 30th, 2006, 08:08 PM
Ghudchadi pe Dulhe tai KAACHI LAASI pilana....
Jo woh ek ghoont bhar ke apne dostaan ne diyaa kare

sjakhars
August 30th, 2006, 09:41 PM
1.Ghar me khana banate samaya pahli roti gai (cow) ke liye chhodna. Jise rajasthan me "gai ka mandka" (small roti) kahte hain.:)
2. kharif ki fasal ki buwai shuru karte samay "halsotiya"
click here to know more about halsotiya (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15645)
3.shadi ke samay dulhan ko sasu (mother in law) ka car,jeep:D , gade se :D utarna

anilsangwan
August 30th, 2006, 10:01 PM
Really great to see all of your responses... I am thinking of consolidating all this and updating in Jatland VIKI so that each and every event is explained for benefit of all..

Thanks once again...

Cheers,

trueblueindian
September 6th, 2006, 02:43 PM
bhai sab kuch thik sae, thaum holi pe lugiyan ke lath arrr... ve latte ne bhigo ke maraya karen, (ke keh hai yaar usne) haaaaaaaaann KORDE bhoolge ke, kadi khaye se, bhagwaan kisun lath arr korde khaan ke baad kai din tahi aur kuch khaan ka jee ae hi nahi karta.

captkalkal
September 6th, 2006, 10:15 PM
bhai sab kuch thik sae, thaum holi pe lugiyan ke lath arrr... ve latte ne bhigo ke maraya karen, (ke keh hai yaar usne) haaaaaaaaann KORDE bhoolge ke, kadi khaye se, bhagwaan kisun lath arr korde khaan ke baad kai din tahi aur kuch khaan ka jee ae hi nahi karta.

Jelli Alle Anil,

Ek aur yaad aagi,bera naa kise ne likhi sai ek naa,

Dulhendi khelen pachhe hamesha gud baantya karan, aajkaal to laadu bi bantan lag ge.

captkalkal
September 6th, 2006, 10:18 PM
bhai sab kuch thik sae, thaum holi pe lugiyan ke lath arrr... ve latte ne bhigo ke maraya karen, (ke keh hai yaar usne) haaaaaaaaann KORDE bhoolge ke, kadi khaye se, bhagwaan kisun lath arr korde khaan ke baad kai din tahi aur kuch khaan ka jee ae hi nahi karta.

Jelli Aale Anil,

Ek aur yaad aagi, bera naa kise nai likhi sai ek naa...

Dulhendi khelen paache gud jaroor bantyan karain,
aajkaal to laadu bi baantan laag ge.

anilkadian
September 7th, 2006, 01:39 AM
>>>Ghudchadi pachhe arr baraat chadan tey pehlyan padosiya key baithna.
>>>ghudchadi chalan tey pehle Maa ka doodh peena.
>>>Dulhe ke Jija ka Ghurchadi pey Lagaam rukai karana (jija ghodii ki laggam pakad ke khadya ho sa sei aar kimme acchha sa soudda milya pachhe e ghoodi ney chalan diya karey)
>>> bateu tahi ghee mein khand/bura bhena (chahe aage bufi dhari ho, ghee mein terrr khand bina khatirdari adhuri e reh ja sei;) )

arr sab mein important....yaad rakhan jogga...susraad mein Bateu ka jurab pehre-pehre khat pey sona:D :D

captkalkal
September 7th, 2006, 10:47 PM
>>>Ghudchadi pachhe arr baraat chadan tey pehlyan padosiya key baithna.
>>>ghudchadi chalan tey pehle Maa ka doodh peena.
>>>Dulhe ke Jija ka Ghurchadi pey Lagaam rukai karana (jija ghodii ki laggam pakad ke khadya ho sa sei aar kimme acchha sa soudda milya pachhe e ghoodi ney chalan diya karey)
>>> bateu tahi ghee mein khand/bura bhena (chahe aage bufi dhari ho, ghee mein terrr khand bina khatirdari adhuri e reh ja sei;) )

arr sab mein important....yaad rakhan jogga...susraad mein Bateu ka jurab pehre-pehre khat pey sona:D :D

Anil,

Chhore maan gye bhai,kasuti observation sai.

BATAEU KA JARAB PAHRE PAHRE SONA !!:D

Iske bhai poore number sain rai !!

devdahiya
November 23rd, 2006, 08:50 AM
Kuchh aur:

Chak pujjai[Kumharran ke ja ke byah ke temm...they ..Kehtte hein ke Chak ka aavishkar Jattan nei krya tha]

Subh awssar pe..PANCH PATTASSE PNAH KE BEDDE LE..gana[very auspecious song]


Gae ke gobbar arr peeli maati mila kei saal leepana[It keeps the house neat and clean with soothing fragrence and it keeps insects away+ it keeps the house cool]


Chaumasse mei Ghass-phuss ki DHUMMANI karna[to keep the Machchar&insects away....specailly from animals]


Baar ukkai karna[byah mei]


Saggai pe Rapiya gilass dena


Dakshin mei munh karkke na sonna


Sakraant pe danggran nei farrdde feikkna


Goshalla mei daan karna


Perr tein peir na dhonna


Badde-bujjurggan ke perr chhuna


Deewali aale din Danggran ke galle mei rang-birranggi morrpankhan ki Gaanddalli prhanna

Byah mei BAND-DDE-BANDDADDI gana

Kuwe ki pooja karna

Badde arr balak nei pehlyan bhojjan kranna

Pyar tein mil-jul ke rehna

Ek ghar mei byah arr sarre gaam ka maddad karna

Baraat aawei jib Tokkani bhar ke cha le janna

Danggwara karna

Kathhe hall[ekke khet mei mil kei] chalana

Bijjakkdda dabbna

Kuttiya jibb bachche diya karti tei MALHOTTA manggna[so that the JACHCHA-BACHCHA eat well]

Hanssi-thhathha karna




AUR FERR.......................

jitendershooda
November 23rd, 2006, 02:58 PM
Pahiyen par paani isliye dala jata hai ki purane dinon mein log baag
gaadiyon meil chala karte aur gaadi ka pahiyan jis dhuri par ghumta tha wo
garam ho jaya karti.

Pawan Bhai Saab ram ram ... dikhe pahuch liye ulte bambi ... nu batao paani te jib bhi gera karte jib gadi sari raat ki thamb rahi hoti er tedkaen sheele sheele jamte ... jib wa ke tatti huya karti ... ho sake hai reason aap aala ee ho par pher pache lugaiyan ne iska rivaj e bana diya ho :)

jitendershooda
November 23rd, 2006, 03:01 PM
Ghudchadi pe Dulhe tai KAACHI LAASI pilana....
Jo woh ek ghoont bhar ke apne dostaan ne diyaa kare

hain dhubbi... aaa liya tun bhi ... donu bhai bol batla ke eke tagge ne lyo ho kheech ke :)

Ke Ghudchadi pe Dulhe ka role yaad aave hai ... koe na ghana beecha na hai .. tene bhi pya dyange KAACHI LAASI je mhari gaal mein ke lyae te ;)

lrburdak
November 23rd, 2006, 09:05 PM
Really great to see all of your responses... I am thinking of consolidating all this and updating in Jatland VIKI so that each and every event is explained for benefit of all..

Thanks once again...

Cheers,
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There is one page on Jatland Wiki on Social customs of Jats


http://www.jatland.com/home/Jat_social_customs


I have added some social customs.

Members are requested to add to this in proper form. Very good thread. keep it up.

Regards,