How Many Of You Want to Settle Outside India ?

[parity]

Hi all Indian Jats,
Tell me how many of u want to settle outside India or ever wanted ?? Also why so ??
Please dont reply if u cant be honest :)

[devdahiya]

Hi all Indian Jats,
Tell me how many of u want to settle outside India or ever wanted ??
Please dont reply if u cant be honest :)




No question of leaving India for anything.Never ever thought of it.The very thought puts me off.Nothing like my own MATRABHUMMI...and nothing like my roots.

Jo yahan hei wo pardesh mein nahin
Merre India jaissa koi aur desh nahin
Sabhi tammannayein hui yahan puuri
Ab koi tammanna seshh nahin.

[parity]

Arey I am Indian n i av asked to i shud also answer na :D
I dont want to live outside my country, really :) But for sure, i want to see whole world :D

I wont say big things that i luv my country or wanna do anything for the pride of India :D Only 1 reason which is very simple also- Apni cheez apni hoti hai chahe jaisi bhi ho. Whether v luv our family or not v cant leave it, S/O or D/O wud always be there, surname or cast or religion will always be there same ways my country is mine.

Hey please dont take it otherwise, it is big for me so i said but may be for some people its true, vo sach me kuch karna chahte hon country k liye.

[netrapalsingh]

No question of living India for anything.Never ever thought of it.The very thought puts me off.Nothing like my own MATRABHUMMI...and nothing like my roots.

Jo yahan hei wo pardesh mein nahin
Merre India jaissa koi aur desh nahin
Sabhi tammannayein hui yahan puuri
Ab koi tammanna seshh nahin.

bhoot ache sir jee maja agayaa mai bhee aapke saath hoo
jo maja apne watan apnee matrbhoomee me hai wo kahi
bhee nahi hai hamare pass sabhyata hai sanskrity hai
apnapan hai. wha kya hai sirf paisa..........................

netra......

[ravinderdahiya]

Bhai India konya choddya ja
pehli baat te India te education li, haaday e saari cheeza pe subsidy ne jeem gaye arr je pher haam contribution kittay aur karan laag jaawa tai yaa theek baat koni.
so, pehlya kuch apnay desh tahi karo, chahe soldier ban ke, engineer ban ke, aur aur kimmay ban ke arr jai koi iss sab ke baad bahar ja ke desh ke liye kuch kar sakta hai too beshak jaao.
arr bhai mera India na choddan ka sabta badda karan akk bahar halwa, churma, haara saag arr beraa na kk.........konya milay
pher k faayda jan ka.

[raj_rathee]

Bhai India konya choddya ja
pehli baat te India te education li, haaday e saari cheeza pe subsidy ne jeem gaye arr je pher haam contribution kittay aur karan laag jaawa tai yaa theek baat koni.
so, pehlya kuch apnay desh tahi karo, chahe soldier ban ke, engineer ban ke, aur aur kimmay ban ke arr jai koi iss sab ke baad bahar ja ke desh ke liye kuch kar sakta hai too beshak jaao.
arr bhai mera India na choddan ka sabta badda karan akk bahar halwa, churma, haara saag arr beraa na kk.........konya milay
pher k faayda jan ka.

ha ha ha good one...
Vaise halwa, churma, err hara saag ke maare uss khachar khane mein
koi pada ho tae bhai besak chod ke aa jao. Yahre inn cheeja ki
koi kami na sae. Ude tae bhi faaltoo sae. :D

Global citizen hon ka nyara eh sawaad sae.

Mahara hisab kitab tae yo sae ki saal do saal mein desh ka ek zhatka le
aawaan saen tae woh eh ghane dina tahin desh jaan ki kacch-kacchi
ne kaabu mein kar lewe sae.

...but true...the heart always tugs for home...

[swati]

No question of leaving India for anything.Never ever thought of it.The very thought puts me off.Nothing like my own MATRABHUMMI...and nothing like my roots.

Jo yahan hei wo pardesh mein nahin
Merre India jaissa koi aur desh nahin
Sabhi tammannayein hui yahan puuri
Ab koi tammanna seshh nahin.

ghumman ki liya theek hai par puri zindgi ka naash thana kya majhe
to ji mera to koi vichar ni baharey ja key settle hon ka

[jagmohan]

To be frank I wanted to born in a European Country!!!! But since that didn't happen I am now stuck here. Jee te bhot kare se par Bhai ib te phans liye aade ar aadat pad gi apne desh ki. Pher Fauj mein rahe paache yu 'Deshbhkti' ka rolla bhi beech mein aa jya se ar kahni pade se ak mhare jissa desh or koi bhi konya!!!!

Ek baat to hai. Yahan par jitni aazadi hai vo shyad or kahin par nahin hai. Jo marzi aawe vo e karo, koi kuchh nahin kahtaa...

[hdsura]

Along with homour, there is some philosophical and emotional content in it.

For me, there is a sentimental value in the place where I was born and spent my childhood. Once left that there is no limit and I follow the Green. -:)

[brainspeak]

will like to go out on a tourist visa but not on immigration visa.....:)

[sunnysangwan]

From my perspective, considering I'm already "abroad", I'd like to return to India "one day" (don't ask me when's that day gonna be).
Actually let me explain it a little, its like a bavandar here, jo ek baar fans gaya vo fans gaya, isse bahar nikalna mushkil hai (namumkin nahin). Its a humungous confusion as to which place is better. Its a dilemna, I think, everybody has whether to move back or to continue and probably by the time one realises that, its probably too late to go home (kids start going to school, one gets used to the system etc. etc.)
When I came here, I was pleasantly surprised by the system here, you don't have to bribe your way out of everything, everything is systematic, roads are terrific etc. etc. so it was a pleasant surprise in a way but in the end it comes down to just one thing, "Its just not Home".
Now that I have a job, I can support my family better, I can help out friends who're not dng good with their jobs, I can be extravagant at times etc. etc. but in the end it comes down to just one thing, "Its just not home".

This has been my story so far, I don't know what's in store for me in future but yes, I'd like to settle in india.

Sangwan

[skarmveer]

Na jee na main nahi ja sakta hamesh key liyea kisi bhee dusrey desh may.

I got 5 chances to go abrod for job but every time I think-wahan gharwaley
nahi hongey-dost, resteyday nahi hongey-apne desh nahi hoga- apno ka payar nahi hoga--yahan apnoo ko koi dukh,dard hua to main aapno key saath nahi hunga. Fir us paise ka kya fayada hum to yahan kum khaa ker bhee
khush raheygay. Jo kush ho sakeyga aapeney desh mey rehker desh key liyea karangey.

Appne desh kuchh bee kar, dusrey ka desh thukney ka bhee dar.

Har Janam Mujhey Bharat hee melay or woo bhee Jaat key ghar.

Regards
Regards


From my perspective, considering I'm already "abroad", I'd like to return to India "one day" (don't ask me when's that day gonna be).
Actually let me explain it a little, its like a bavandar here, jo ek baar fans gaya vo fans gaya, isse bahar nikalna mushkil hai (namumkin nahin). Its a humungous confusion as to which place is better. Its a dilemna, I think, everybody has whether to move back or to continue and probably by the time one realises that, its probably too late to go home (kids start going to school, one gets used to the system etc. etc.)
When I came here, I was pleasantly surprised by the system here, you don't have to bribe your way out of everything, everything is systematic, roads are terrific etc. etc. so it was a pleasant surprise in a way but in the end it comes down to just one thing, "Its just not Home".
Now that I have a job, I can support my family better, I can help out friends who're not dng good with their jobs, I can be extravagant at times etc. etc. but in the end it comes down to just one thing, "Its just not home".

This has been my story so far, I don't know what's in store for me in future but yes, I'd like to settle in india.

Sangwan

[rsdalal]

When I came here about 11 years back. most of the people who came here were in IT field and every now and then this discussion used to be there in the gatherings. And most of 95% or may 100% people used to be of the opinion that they want to go back. Few of them even used to give like 5 years from now, 2 years later and so and so. Today I see most of the people here may be 95% of them.

Mere hisab te te, live where ever you feel comfortable or if not comfortabl;e than make your self comfortable.

As a kid when we moved from villege to Faridabad, it used to be just like pardes, even if it was in Haryana. Par gam me ja ke jo swad aya karta ussa Faridabad me katti nahi aya. So if I can justify move from villege to Faridabad, why not from Faridabad/Delhi to US. And in future why not back to India, if find more appropriate.
Any way you never know where life takes you.

[itsnavin]

I would say it's a personal choice. I know there are guys in India who are dying to get out of India at any cost. I met one in a family marriage and whole night he kept requesting me to arrange something for him abroad. 2 years on he still has some hope. But I couldn't tell him the truth that it's not possible for a guy with his profile to immigrate to Europe. May be he'll be able to make it illegally.

On the otherhand, there are desi guys here with me who always in social meeting say that they are more Indian than others. One of those cases is funny..that guys works for Texas Instruments in Bangalore, he's on a 2 years long project in France...How one can be more Indian if he works for US company and works in France...very strange!!

Personally I am here in France for last 5 years but won't stay here for life. Main reason for my going back would be the career for my kids. Here there is no competition...but my kids needs to have a taste of what exists in India. They must be able to compete in that world as well. In that there is no choice but go back.

Navin

[deepshi]

In yestday's Jay Leno Show..
he was jokin bout inhabiting on2 a new planet, n said 'Then there will b new IT jobs, n then there will b 'INDIANS' !'

wel, theres more 2 us then bein ITans!!

[rkumar]

In my life I have reached to a point where my location on the face of Earth hardly makes any difference. My life style is hardly affected whether I am in India or anywhere else in the world. I am very comfortable where ever I travel and I rarely identify myself with the place. Truely speaking, I have created a small USA for myself in India and a small India in UK and USA. Therefore it hardly matters where I am....LOL

RK^2

[rajeshrathee]

When I came here about 11 years back. most of the people who came here were in IT field and every now and then this discussion used to be there in the gatherings. And most of 95% or may 100% people used to be of the opinion that they want to go back. Few of them even used to give like 5 years from now, 2 years later and so and so. Today I see most of the people here may be 95% of them.

Mere hisab te te, live where ever you feel comfortable or if not comfortabl;e than make your self comfortable.

As a kid when we moved from villege to Faridabad, it used to be just like pardes, even if it was in Haryana. Par gam me ja ke jo swad aya karta ussa Faridabad me katti nahi aya. So if I can justify move from villege to Faridabad, why not from Faridabad/Delhi to US. And in future why not back to India, if find more appropriate.
Any way you never know where life takes you.


Ranbir Bhai,

Well said

I think this might be the most appropriate answer, rest depend on person to person and his/her priorities.

[trueblueindian]

To be of a very honest openion, i would definately luv to get settled outside, desh prem hai aur bahut hai, but how does it makes a diffrence if someone is in india or outside india.... on the other hand i cannot compare the two as i have never ever been given a chance to be settled outside india, whn i visited out of india as a turist i did discover that life is different, and it was all appealing me to be a western by nationality.

malik saab i do agree in india one is a freewilly, but then also thers a fact that respect for LAW and LIFE does not exist here.

a bit humrous but if sumone has loads of money, thers absolutely no better place than india, coz one can buy any thing here.:D :D :D

[rsdalal]

Main reason for my going back would be the career for my kids. Here there is no competition...but my kids needs to have a taste of what exists in India. They must be able to compete in that world as well. In that there is no choice but go back.

Navin

Very true Naveen, I like the idea

[pnauhwar21]

Nobody would like to settle outside India if following things are mended in our country :

1) Improved traffic sense..everybody driving in lanes, 2-wheelers in a separate lane, nobody criss-crossing, everyone stopping at red-lights and no more 20 ka note to traffic havaldar

2) Most basic necessities available to each common man : Clean drinking water, 24hr electricity

3) All government run organizations are made internet savvy so that we can fill our water, electricity bills, tax forms online and no more chakkars of government babus and greasing their palms

4) Effective, compassionate and educated police force. Nobody has to fear to goto police station and giving money to them for getting your complaint registered

5) And last but not the least, basis civic sense in every citizen. Everybody treating public property as their own

Money is not the only factor in settling outside India. But even after the above factors, every Indian wants to return back to india for one basic reason, Own family, own people, own country and the chahal-pahal and raunak of India which is missing in foreign countries..

[naveenbazad]

i will be settling where my would be want as I am presently working in CBOT , LIFFE ..... as MBA's are better in US so after a year I would be heading for US ....then whatever she decides what is suitable at that time for children we will follow

[neels]

Hi all Indian Jats,
Tell me how many of u want to settle outside India or ever wanted ?? Also why so ??
Please dont reply if u cant be honest :)


Intersting question Sukarma....well i wanted to n still look forward to. Why..? for the wide-wide scope in the west for my subject, specialy in research, which unfortunately we dont have here in our MotherIndia. And i dont understand why we are so against of settling outside of India as seen in most of replies...Do we think NRIs are less dedicated to their motherland than we people who are living in India.? It isnt so...i ve been abroad.. n frankly speaking the kind of work culture those people have, we seriously lack here and Indians there are as much concerned and in touch with the day to day ongoings in every field.. be it politics, cricket, or bollywood. Com'on we are living in an age of global universe, so what difference it makes which part of world we are living in. And that doesn't mean at all that I love my country less than any other citizen. I am deeply rooted to my culture n country , and so ll I always be, whereever I live.

[parity]

i will be settling where my would be want as I am presently working in CBOT , LIFFE ..... as MBA's are better in US so after a year I would be heading for US ....then whatever she decides what is suitable at that time for children we will follow

Very rare to hear this kind of thing from a guy :) Ur partner wud be the luky one :D

[naveenbazad]

hi .... i agree with neelam and have the same opinion. I think the best way of serving mother india is to help it make it better and i think best way i think is that if i have enough money more then what i need then i will give it to needy one and have their education sponsored .. as i am unmarried still and i really dont what lies ahead in life ..... i think that i can do if i will go abroad and have my savings though its possible here also .... i will try to help those parents who r hardworking and still need some help to have their child education sponsored ......STILL I AM HAVING MY FINGERS CROSSED BECAUSE JINDAGI KAB KIS KO KIS MOD PE LE JAAYE KUCH NAHI PATA....ONLY THING I HAVE IN MY HAND IS DOING HARD WORK AND REST DEPENDS ON GOD WHAT HE HAS STORED FOR ME

[neels]

well said naveen, and truly once what was blamed as 'Brain Drain', now has given the status of IT professionals providing country and has helped the whole world to recognize India's and Indians' worth. and NRIs are investing all their savings here in India only.
Still its equally true, you never know where your destiny is going to take you....We should work hard to realize our dreams, rest leave on the God; as certain things are so uncertain in life ! I liked your idea of being open to all options..that way one wud be happy where ever he lives.
hey me too belong to Rohtak, our CM city..:)

[parity]

1) And i dont understand why we are so against of settling outside of India as seen in most of replies...
2) the kind of work culture those people have, we seriously lack here
3) so what difference it makes which part of world we are living in.

1) No one here against anything, only expressing views :)
2) How can we have that kind of work culture here, our most of the working class (cream) is there :D
3) Bilkul difference hai, aap sab migrate ho jaenge to India ki development kaise hogi :D India doesnt need money only :)
No issues Neelam Ji & Naveen, only a view. We all know humans value after losing. So i agree NRIs luv their country :)

[ritu]

what u want or not aapka jaha dana paani likha h vahi rahna padta h.I have to come to america because my husband wanted to.and now ihave to may be settle here because my son is doing really well in studies here and we think its for his best interest to continue studies here only .so i wont be able to go for his sake.
but that does not mean we r not indian .or i am not D/O of my dad .being in india u can not claim u love ur parents more than daughters living here.
baat to ye h ki jaha ho vaha aapne desh ka naam roshan karo.
aap ko apni feelings show karni h 100% karo but not by hurting others.

Arey I am Indian n i av asked to i shud also answer na :D
I dont want to live outside my country, really :) But for sure, i want to see whole world :D

I wont say big things that i luv my country or wanna do anything for the pride of India :D Only 1 reason which is very simple also- Apni cheez apni hoti hai chahe jaisi bhi ho. Whether v luv our family or not v cant leave it, S/O or D/O wud always be there, surname or cast or religion will always be there same ways my country is mine.

Hey please dont take it otherwise, it is big for me so i said but may be for some people its true, vo sach me kuch karna chahte hon country k liye.

[parity]

that does not mean we r not indian .or i am not D/O of my dad.
aap ko apni feelings show karni h 100% karo but not by hurting others.

Plzzzzz ritu mujhe chod do :D
Jo thread sabko acha lagta hai, aapko senseless lagta hai :confused: Jatlanders PM me that my views are good but aapko wrong lagte hain :confused:
JO meaning kisi bhi Jatlander ko nahi lagta, mujhe nahi lagta aap vo aap nikal lete ho. meri +ve statements -vly interpret kar lete ho :(
Ab to maine aapke darrrr se post karna bhi chod diya :( Jaise hi main post karongi aap apne acc meaning nikalengi n mujhe daantengi :D
Tell me what more i shud do ????

[rajeshrathee]

:D
Tell me what more i shud do ????[/FONT][/COLOR]

Keep posting, what else?

Sukarma don't think that Ritu is after you.

She is expressing her view and you are expressing yours.

Everyone have his/her own peculiar way of expressing things.

So don't mind it. Its a public forum.

You have started some very good topics, so keep it up.[/COLOR]

[ritu]

thanks rajesh for clearing the misunderstanding.
and yes u r rt its a public forum and everybody including myself has the rt to express views especially if the thread has something related to u.
and sukrama if people r praising u its very good.then you should be ready for some criticism too.

Keep posting, what else?

Sukarma don't think that Ritu is after you.

She is expressing her view and you are expressing yours.

Everyone have his/her own peculiar way of expressing things.

So don't mind it. Its a public forum.

You have started some very good topics, so keep it up.

[parity]

and sukrama if people r praising u its very good.then you should be ready for some criticism too.

:D :D :rolleyes: :rolleyes::confused: :confused: :D :D

[ritu]

:D :D :rolleyes: :rolleyes::confused: :confused: :D :D
good you felt that way.vaise kaphi acchi lagrahi ho tum:) pm me likhu kya. aur jo smileys tumne use kiye h onse pata lagraha h ki kitne bhavo se vibhor ho rahi ho.:)

[parity]

Keep posting, what else?

You have started some very good topics, so keep it up.[/color]

Thank u Rajesh Sir for apreciating my effort :)
But boora lagta hai jab wrong interpretation hota hai :(
I think we shud close this topic here :)