no difference between jats and jatts

[bajwajatt]

i m new 2 jatland.
i m a bajwa jatt sikh. i want 2 told u that there is no difference between jats and jatts.we bajwas became sikh at the time of 10 guru govind singh ji.when we were hindu at that time also our ancestors are very brave.so we became sikh 2 fight against mugals.our village is in sialkot before 1947.my grand father told me that in our village there are both hindu and sikh jatts(BAJWA). and we live like brothers.my mother is from dhaliwal jatt family.i want 2 know that bajwa and dhaliwal are jat also.

[ravinderdahiya]

Welcome on board Surdeep,
Enjoy your time at jatland.

[bajwajatt]

thanks ravinder ji

[rajoura]

Hi Surdeep

Welcome to jatland. Indeed JATT sikh and jats are brothers. Thanks for joining us.

Sanjeev

[cooljat]

welcome bro!


Rock on!
Jit

[trueblueindian]

i m new 2 jatland.
i m a bajwa jatt sikh. i want 2 told u that there is no difference between jats and jatts.we bajwas became sikh at the time of 10 guru govind singh ji.when we were hindu at that time also our ancestors are very brave.so we became sikh 2 fight against mugals.our village is in sialkot before 1947.my grand father told me that in our village there are both hindu and sikh jatts(BAJWA). and we live like brothers.my mother is from dhaliwal jatt family.i want 2 know that bajwa and dhaliwal are jat also.

dear Surjeet Bajwa bhai

welcome to jatland..... well most of us know about sikkhism..... its existense .... n whn it all started... so no confusions on that aspect.

A JAT IS A JAT... weather jat, jattt or jutt.... i have many jatt sikh friends in my personel friends..... n i know that we are more or less same.

i donno wot promoters / mods / other members feel on this but from my honest side ...... welcome hai and hunnnn chakkk dae phatttte !!!!!!!!

[bajwajatt]

yes brothers we have lot of comman surnames like gill,garewal, sidhu;sandhu,chahal,dhaliwal,atwal.chohan,warrich, bal,bhatti,dhillon,lamba,sangwan,mann,narwal,i want 2 know that bajwas are jat also

[trueblueindian]

yes brothers we have lot of comman surnames like gill,garewal, sidhu;sandhu,chahal,dhaliwal,atwal.chohan,warrich, bal,bhatti,dhillon,lamba,sangwan,mann,narwal,i want 2 know that bajwas are jat also

i guess Bajwa's arent there in haryanvi / rajashani / up jats..... may be they only existed in punjab / sindh region

like am dabas and thers are 16 villages of dabas jats in delhi... n very few in haryana and then some in rajasthan.... so primarilly Dabas's are frm delhi... likewise bajwa's could be in sindh region only..... but to my knowlidge jatt sikhs are frm punjab belt only... never heard of jatt sikh frm lahore / sindh belt

[bajwajatt]

brothers do u know that it is true that no of our sikh gures is a jatt.but jatts also give maximum 2 sikhism.
like maharaja ranjit singh who is also called sher a punjab. he is a sandhu jatt who through mugals out from punjab.he also rule over pathanes.he is a persom who banned jizya tax.

hari singh dhillon he is a maharaja of amritsar he also fought against afgans. he is the first jatt sikh 2 conquer multanThey ruled over most of the major cities of Punjab (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punjab_region), including Amritsar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amritsar), Lahore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lahore), Multan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multan), Chiniot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiniot), Jhang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jhang), Bhera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhera),and sialkot

baba buddha he is a randhawa jatt.he is very close 2 guru nanak dev ji is is the first granthi of (goldan tempel) shi harmandir sahib

mai bhago she is a dhillon jatti she is a first women soldiers who fight against mugals

baghal singh he is a dhaliwal jatt he was an important military general in turbulant times of Eighteenth century . He was born in village Jhabal, and grew up to become leader of the KarorSinghia sikh fighting which filled the power vacuum after decline of once formidable mugals
After establishing his military grip over Punjab, Baghel Singh took control territories like Meerut, Saharanpur, Shahdra and Awadh. In March 1776, Baghel Singh's forces defeated imperial Army of mugal emperor, Shah Alam II near muzzarbad. Baghel Singh established an octroi post in Chandni Chowk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandni_Chowk) outside the red ford in mugale capital delhi in March 1783.
Baghel Singh is credited with establishment of following gurudawara or Sikh Temples in delhi.

kapur singh he is a virk jatt he is also a great persom he also defeted mugala in many places

Sardar Chet Singh he is a bajwa jatt he was a deorhidar serving Maharaja Ranjit Singh as well as Maharaja Kharak Singh


jodh singh he is also a bajwa jatt is is also a great warrior

we jatt sikh r also very proud 2 be a jatt is u people .we jatt also give lot 2 sikhiism.this is also true our gurus are not jatt they all are khatris.the real sikhism start at the time of guru govind singh ji

[narenderkharb]

Welcome brother

Thanks for this informative post.

Yes Jats and jatts are one and the same thing.

I read there is a Bajwa Jat MP from Jammu and Kashmir looks jats are in good no. there also.

[bajwajatt]

ssa narinder ji .u r right hi is a mp from rspura . bajwas is jammu r both sikh and hindus jatts but our back ground is same.i punjab all r sikhs. i want 2 know bajwas r there in haryana

[vijay]

Yes Surjteet Bhai,

Whenever i meet a person with having same gotra between jat and jatt, i feel so gud.

I came across Warraich Jats once and had met Dahiya Jatts too.

[bajwajatt]

ssa dabas ji.bajwas r not from sindh region.we(bajwa) r from west punjab the are of sialkot,multam,narowal,and jammu. as my grand father told me there r about 100 bajwa villages all bajwas are not sikh bajwa some r hindus and and some r muslams also.but maximum r sikhs.bajwas became sikh at the time of guru govind singh ji. and some became sikh at the time of mararaja ranjit singh.we have very strong hold in sialkot distt.the muslams cant touch us at the time of partiation(1947) my grand father told me that the hindu bajwas settle in the area of present day haryana and some in jammu.

u guys think all punjabi jatt are sikh but some punjab jatts r hindu also.like (balram jakher)a very strong politication of punjab ok by

[bajwajatt]

ssa vijay ji. h r u.i hope u r fine.i has respect with all jat.we should not hate each othere.see all sikhs r not khalisthani.ther r some but ther population is very less.

[vijay]

u guys think all punjabi jatt are sikh but some punjab jatts r hindu also.like (balram jakher)a very strong politication of punjab ok by

SSA, Abohar and Fazilka area of Punjab have more hindu jats than sikh jatts. Jakhar, Jyani, Godara, Rinwa, Sihag are some influencive gotras there. There are some villeges of Bishnoi's too.

[bajwajatt]

dabas ji i get some bajwa history

Bajwa (Urdu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urdu): باجوہ) (Hindi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindi): बाजवा) is a Jat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jat) gotra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotra) or clan. They are spread across the Punjab region (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punjab_region) divided between Northern India (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_India) and Pakistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan).
Bajwa are believed to be the bravest clan of Jatt. Bajwa means the Clan of the Hawk, and is a common last name amongst Punjabis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punjabi_people). The word itself "Bajwa" is derived from the word Baaz Wala (pronounced as Baaj in colloquial Punjabi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punjabi_language)), the Arabic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language) word for hawk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawk) or falcon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falcon).
Bajwa in Persian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_language) also means "the people who levied Tax". Bajwas living in the Bajwat area (the Sialkot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sialkot_District) and Narowal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narowal_District) districts in Punjab (Pakistan) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punjab_%28Pakistan%29)) were known to harass the invading armies of Timur (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timur), Ahmed Shah Abdali (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Shah_Abdali) and others, who invaded India from the northwest.
Bajwa is a prominent Jat clan of the Punjab. They claim Suryavanshi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suryavanshi) descent.
The ancestor of the Bajwas is Baba Manga. Their place of origin is Bajwat in the Sialkot and Narowal districts of Pakistan. This place is located in the Shiwalik (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiwalik) foothills and is quite near the Indian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India) border as well as the city of Jammu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jammu). At one time, Bajwa Jats had eighty-four villages in the Sialkot area.
Another legend is that one of their ancestors, Rai Jaison, was forced to leave Delhi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delhi) by Rai Pithora (Prithvi Raj Chauhan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prithviraj_III)).
Baba Manga had seven sons. The eldest, Naro established a village, which was named as Narowal after him. Another son, Deepa founded Kotli Bajwa and a third one, Chandu founded Chanduwal.
The founder of the Bajwa clan, Bajwat (or Wajab) used to live in Jaisalmer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaisalmer) in Rajasthan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajasthan). From there, he migrated to Sialkot and Gujranwala (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gujranwala). One of his descendants became the ruler of Multan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multan). Raja Shilp, a Bajwa ruler, was ousted from Multan by Sikandar Lodhi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikandar_Lodhi). Raja Shilp had two sons named Kala and Lis. Both used to rear hawks
Bajwa Jatts are closely linked to the Bajju Rajputs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajputs).
Lis migrated to Jammu. There, he married a Rajput girl. His descendants were called Bajju Rajputs. Kala, on the other hand, married a Jat girl and settled in the Pasrur area. Kala’s descendants came to be known as Bajwa Jats. Thus, both groups have common ancestries
Both Bajwa Jatts and Bajju Rajputs are settled in the Bajwat region of Jammu-Sialkot-Narowal. Their customs are very similar. They take their newly wed brides to the Samadhi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samadhi) of their ancestor, Baba Manga to pay obeisance. Baba Manga is worshipped. Like other Jat clans, Bajwas give a cut to the tree of Jand.

[vijay]

i want 2 know bajwas r there in haryana


When i was studying in Kurukshetra University, Kurukshetra i came came across a Bajwa jat from Yamuna Nagar area though i don't know him personally

[bajwajatt]

vijay ji is dhaliwal r hindu jat also.i want 2 know because my mother is from dhaliwal jatt family.they told me dhaliwal r haryani jat also

[trueblueindian]

ssa dabas ji.bajwas r not from sindh region.we(bajwa) r from west punjab

u guys think all punjabi jatt are sikh but some punjab jatts r hindu also.like (balram jakher)a very strong politication of punjab ok by

know very well about all this bajwa bhai... also vijay gave u a very true picture.....

BTW i really doubt meeting / knowing bajwa gotra in haryanvi jat's

[vijay]

vijay ji is dhaliwal r hindu jat also.i want 2 know because my mother is from dhaliwal jatt family.they told me dhaliwal r haryani jat also

Sabte pehlayan to ee ki mainu Ji na akhaya kar prah,

Dhariwaal jaat hain and maybe Dhaliwaal too, but never came across till date. :)

[cooljat]

Takhar is also a big Sikh Jat Gotra!!!

Rock on
Jit


yes brothers we have lot of comman surnames like gill,garewal, sidhu;sandhu,chahal,dhaliwal,atwal.chohan,warrich, bal,bhatti,dhillon,lamba,sangwan,mann,narwal,i want 2 know that bajwas are jat also

[bajwajatt]

Takhar is also a big Sikh Jat Gotra!!!

Rock on
Jit

ssa jit ji .takhar r jat also.its good. we also have relatives with takher gotra.they r jatt sikh.there village is near jalandher.in punjab takher jatts r found in jalandher distt.its good information.one of my friend is also takher jatt