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Samarkadian
February 5th, 2007, 11:17 AM
"God might not reach to everyone,Thaty He created Women n hence Mother"

Hello Warriors,
Like world is shrinking in refernce to technology,war for resources, clash of cultures happening frequently.Counteries are getting intolerant.Peace seems to be a rare commodity, always in demand but absent in stock. Since woman is more pro-peace than war-obsessed man.Its her natural make up. And men has to confront women at home , be he is president of a nation or soldier or a scientist or a comman man. I want to ask women ( Men, How do you think ,if she can,How can she?) of Jatland, How you can contribute ,if given a chance, to add up to the world peace.?

dahiyarules
February 5th, 2007, 12:12 PM
From what I believe, women have been the cause of most wars in the world.

Theres nothing like spilling blood for the sake of your sentiments for your lady...or so it goes according to medieval traditions.

Samarkadian
February 5th, 2007, 03:09 PM
Yeah Sumit, They have been cause of few wars in medvial era n pre medivial era.I'm talking about modern times.I guess more of it being greeds for petrodollars or probably water resources in coming time.And like you said there nothing like spilling blood for your lady.When traditions have been changed and so does motives behind wars.So how can women be a part of peace process?





From what I believe, women have been the cause of most wars in the world.

Theres nothing like spilling blood for the sake of your sentiments for your lady...or so it goes according to medieval traditions.

chhillar
February 5th, 2007, 10:26 PM
It's mostly a bad mouth regardless of the gender that invades the peace to start with.....

rkumar
February 5th, 2007, 11:02 PM
World has never been so peaceful as it is now. Frequency and intensity of wars these days are much lower. Some violance is in our genes and there is no way we can get rid of it till we reach our grave. Absolute peace is detrimental to human evolution and progress and should never be aimed.

I don't understand what women have to do with peace.

RK^2

chhillar
February 5th, 2007, 11:41 PM
Total number of reported crimes has gone down in the world but total number of reported crimes has gone drastically up which has worked both ways...good and bad too

Samarkadian
February 6th, 2007, 01:53 AM
Its my request to all, Kindly contribute to topic.Instead of going personal, something productive would help much better.You all are mature n educated person and you know that topic isnt in fun and humour section.Your suggestion are valuable always.Think n produce for betterment of our society, country n world.

ritu
February 6th, 2007, 02:29 AM
ok serious hogye.
women have definately role in ghar ki peace i mean ghr ki sukh shanti.
but at world front there is nothing much she can can do.at present na to al queda ki head woman hai .na taliban ki na hi iraq war woman ne karvayi hai.

poonam
February 6th, 2007, 03:00 AM
I don’t know the answer to the question asked here as to how women can bring peace in the world but what I do know for sure is that they can do a lot if given a choice of breaking free the barriers imposed by nature, customs and for that matter, the imperatives of raising a family.

Peace has got nothing to do with gender, however, that X chromosome does make females stronger in many aspects. Way to go….!!!

I apologize for the slight digression from the main topic, but worth a read.

Did you know that even though more baby boys than baby girls are born, more girls than boys survive. The reason is that girls have the advantage due to the presence of two X chromosomes.. In boys, however, there is only one X chromosome, since the other is a Y Chromosome (does nothing except deciding “maleness”). The mosaic nature (XX) of girls gives them the advantage of added resistance to infections and thus an edge for better survival. So, in a natural population, not only is the ratio of women to men slightly higher, but the life expectancy for women is also slightly more than that for men. Ofcourse, we dont let it happen, who wants a girl child anyway..!!:rolleyes:

Here are is an excerpt from an editorial published in Current Science last year , focusing primarily on women, science and X chromosome:

The X-chromosome, dubbed on Nature’s cover as ‘the chromosome that unites the sexes’ is really the female characteristic; women have two X-chromosomes, one inherited from each parent. In one of biology’s magical events, most genes on one of the two X-chromosomes are silenced. Men possess an X and Y pair of chromosomes, with the latter possessing relatively little by way of genetic information, although it does determine ‘maleness’. While the X and Y chromosomes evolved from a common ancestor, the latter has ‘disintegrated to a shadow of its former self’(Gunter, C., Nature, 2005, 434, 279). To the non-specialist descriptions of the ‘male’ Y-chromosome convey an impression of a bleak, molecular wasteland, limited to controlling a few defining characteristics of sex. The X-chromosome is more fertile, displaying a genetic richness which surely must yield many new insights in the years to come.

Or the entire editorial: http://www.ias.ac.in/currsci/apr102005/1017.pdf


Amartya Sen once said, “The changing agency of women is one of the major mediators of economic and social change, and its determination as well as consequences closely relates to many of the central features of the development process. …Nothing, arguably, is as important today in the political economy of development as an adequate recognition of political, economic, and social participation and leadership of women. This is indeed a crucial aspect of development as freedom.”

Again, don’t know about peace from women, but surely we need to give a lot including peace to women in current scenario. Give freedom to them, the rest would follow!!

Samarkadian
February 6th, 2007, 10:15 AM
Amartya Sen once said, “The changing agency of women is one of the major mediators of economic and social change, and its determination as well as consequences closely relates to many of the central features of the development process. …Nothing, arguably, is as important today in the political economy of development as an adequate recognition of political, economic, and social participation and leadership of women. This is indeed a crucial aspect of development as freedom.”

Again, don’t know about peace from women, but surely we need to give a lot including peace to women in current scenario. Give freedom to them, the rest would follow!![/QUOTE]

This is the best answer I wud say, so far.Indeed quote of A.Sen is realistic.Freedom,peace,joy all are interlinked emotions.One follow another in the process.Like you said XX chromosome, I wud like to Pro-peace nature fo women is in genes.Hence I thought to start the topic.Thanks.
And yes! Women has a lot to do with world Peace.

Samarkadian
February 6th, 2007, 10:27 AM
World has never been so peaceful as it is now. Frequency and intensity of wars these days are much lower. Some violance is in our genes and there is no way we can get rid of it till we reach our grave. Absolute peace is detrimental to human evolution and progress and should never be aimed.

I don't understand what women have to do with peace.

RK^2

Genes express only when supported by surrounding enviornment.I dnt know Sir which Data of modern times you are refering regarding world at its best stage.Kindly throw some light.World is at its worst stage.

Human was much at peace without all these technology,historical opnions in his early stage.SO which way evolution is going.?

And Sir, If you understand ,How women dnt have to do with peace,Let us understand as well. I'm quite eager.

neels
February 7th, 2007, 02:37 AM
Well the first question comes in mind is - What is peace? Then, What is the connection between women and peace? Surely women enjoy better inner peace. But then, What is the relationship between inner peace and peace in the world? Which I guess perhaps is not just a narrow concern about violence and aggression, rather a broader persepective of bringing peace at a global scenario starting from the grass root level from every home, and then proceeding to family, community, society, country, and the universe.

How do women bring about this just and sustainable peace?

Women are initiating all over the world in their families, communities, and the public spheres to dignify and legitimize the values of love and communication; to heal societies and individuals from the scars of violence and war; and to create imaginative and effective approaches to conflict.

While conflict may be inevitable, war is not; and while disagreement can foster understanding and growth, violence does not.

Credit stamina, stoicism - or call resilience, the ability to come back from serious adversity, such as war, rape or the devastation of a hurricane. Regardless of the name, its a powerful combination of biology, social behavior and psychology, all of which conspire to give women some boosts that men don't have.

Their health advantage long has been chalked up to hormones. What poonam has mentioned is correct. Scientists are now starting to explore the DNA within each cell, and they are finding some protective benefits to having a double dose of the X chromosome. And with such extra resilience and values of love, compassion, empathy, healing and prosperity, they can definitely be a posively contributing factor to enhance the peace on a global level.

Samarkadian
February 7th, 2007, 01:04 PM
Now topic seems to get its direction.Yes Neelam Ji you are right women can be a contributing factor towards global peace.

choudharyneelam
February 7th, 2007, 01:50 PM
From what I believe, women have been the cause of most wars in the world.

Theres nothing like spilling blood for the sake of your sentiments for your lady...or so it goes according to medieval traditions.

Mr. Dahiya ye baat aapne bilkul galat kah di yahan....agar aadmi mein chidne ki bhavna , chhoti chhoti baat par gussa aana, aurat ki izaat ko kuch na samajhna, aise sab galat vichaar dil aur deemag se nikal jaayen to he will always find every woman good.....Draupdi ne apne shabdon ki deceny khoi aur Duryodhan ko andhe ka beta andha bol diya....aur usmein bhi galti pahle Duryodhan ki thi jo parayi naar par nazar daalne ki sochi.....exactly janne ke liye to fir se padhna padega mujhe ki Duryodhan ki kya galti thi...lekin shuruwat usi ne ki thi issliye uska jawab mila tha usse Draupdi se....lekin jahan aurat ki kadar nahin hoti wahan bhagwan krishna jaise uska pura saath dete hain jo ki mahabharat mein sabne dekha hoga.

and for sure i can say a woman in a family is like a backbone of that home....even man is also good but only thing where he lag behind is his uncontrolable anger....at some places i've heard some wrong acts by females and somewhere by males....so talking about world peace is in hands of both men and women.....ek baar hate, anger, jealous, etc. etc. ye sab buri adaton se door rahkar dekhen sab whether that person is male or female....and this whole world will be a good place to enjoy then,filled with entire love which one would have never seen in his/her life.

dndeswal
February 7th, 2007, 03:01 PM
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डरता हूं कहीं जाटलैंड की जाटणियां बुरा न मान जायें । पुराने इतिहास में ज्यादातर युद्ध किसी महिला के कारण ही हुए हैं - शायद आज भी हो रहे हैं । रामायण, महाभारत, Helen of Troy, Cleopatra आदि इसके उदाहरण हैं । पहले भी कई बार राजसत्ता उन्हें सौंपी गई है पर वे अपने राज्य में शान्ति स्थापित करने में कामयाब नहीं हो सकीं । यह एक आम धारणा है, जरूरी नहीं कि हर जगह यह बात सच हो । अमेरिका में भी आज तक किसी महिला को राष्ट्रपति नहीं बनाया गया ।

वैज्ञानिकों का यह भी कहना है कि महिलाओं के मस्तिष्क का साईज पुरुषों के मुकाबले कुछ कम होता है और धीमे काम करता है - ठीक एक कंप्यूटर के प्रोसेसर की तरह - जिनकी स्पीड अलग-अलग होती है ।

शान्ति का पता नहीं - तुलसीदास ने तो यहाँ तक लिख दिया - तिरिया चरित जाने नहीं कोई, पति मार कर सती होई । इस पर तुलसीदास की काफी आलोचना भी हुई ।

एक धागा लिखूंगा "तिरिया चरित" शीर्षक से - humor फोरम में । अगर यहां या Current Affairs में लिख दिया तो शायद कईयों को करंट लग जायेगा ! :p :p
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yashbeniwal
February 7th, 2007, 04:05 PM
kar do kaam nai deshwal ji,,,,,,,

ritu
February 7th, 2007, 07:21 PM
triyacharitar thread shuru karne se pahle ek thread maryada p bhi shuru karna chahiye.humor section me nahi general me.

VPannu
February 7th, 2007, 07:31 PM
manne dikkhe aadmi shaanti na chaahte.......i mean did we really need this discussion?:confused:

dndeswal
February 8th, 2007, 01:20 AM
kar do kaam nai deshwal ji,,,,,,,


कर दिया काम भाई - पढ़ ले मेरा धागा :

Women Tactics (Tiriya-Charit) (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19070)

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Samarkadian
February 8th, 2007, 10:26 AM
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डरता हूं कहीं जाटलैंड की जाटणियां बुरा न मान जायें । पुराने इतिहास में ज्यादातर युद्ध किसी महिला के कारण ही हुए हैं - शायद आज भी हो रहे हैं । रामायण, महाभारत, Helen of Troy, Cleopatra आदि इसके उदाहरण हैं । पहले भी कई बार राजसत्ता उन्हें सौंपी गई है पर वे अपने राज्य में शान्ति स्थापित करने में कामयाब नहीं हो सकीं । यह एक आम धारणा है, जरूरी नहीं कि हर जगह यह बात सच हो । अमेरिका में भी आज तक किसी महिला को राष्ट्रपति नहीं बनाया गया ।

वैज्ञानिकों का यह भी कहना है कि महिलाओं के मस्तिष्क का साईज पुरुषों के मुकाबले कुछ कम होता है और धीमे काम करता है - ठीक एक कंप्यूटर के प्रोसेसर की तरह - जिनकी स्पीड अलग-अलग होती है ।

शान्ति का पता नहीं - तुलसीदास ने तो यहाँ तक लिख दिया - तिरिया चरित जाने नहीं कोई, पति मार कर सती होई । इस पर तुलसीदास की काफी आलोचना भी हुई ।

एक धागा लिखूंगा "तिरिया चरित" शीर्षक से - humor फोरम में । अगर यहां या Current Affairs में लिख दिया तो शायद कईयों को करंट लग जायेगा ! :p :p
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Dear Dayanand Sir,
No One would feel sad if you talk with logic and facts.In older time, like you cited here accusing women for most wars.I would like to add women are possession of men in a men dominated society.In Ramayana it was the war of arrogance of Ravna,to humiliate n challange Ram, Ravana kidnapped his Wife.Sita didnt ask Ravana to kidnap her. On the other side, it was the greed of power and stubborn nature of Duryodhan which lead a war,Droupadi had not declare a war.Okay these there are examples of war(acc to you) lets talk abt other in last 200 years.Were women wanted to invade bouenderies?

For How much significant times they had been in power as compared to men?

America merely has a history of 500 years.If they cant make a women president, but they do have full freedom of women expression.Neither they did war for women.

Scientific facts are more of opnions like history, their could be another thing with this fact regarding size of brain, which could be replaced in future times.

Like someone said, I would love to read another thread on Maryada.

Also if you can contribute in women involement for peace,That would be great.Otherwise Thanks so much for being here.
We have a Nobel peace prize winner for 2004 is Prof W.Mathai from Africa.
MY role model.

Yes they can bring peace.How many more want to say? Come on!

Samarkadian
February 8th, 2007, 10:32 AM
manne dikkhe aadmi shaanti na chaahte.......i mean did we really need this discussion?:confused:

Right Vivek, Men dnt want peace........Then we need this discussion urgently.
Isnt it

dndeswal
February 8th, 2007, 11:00 AM
Also if you can contribute in women involement for peace,That would be great.Otherwise Thanks so much for being here.
We have a Nobel peace prize winner for 2004 is Prof W.Mathai from Africa.
MY role model.

Yes they can bring peace.How many more want to say? Come on!

Yar Samar, please do not be serious. I wrote only in a specific context, it should not be generalised. Our society has given highest regards to womenfolk, compared to Western societies. Wherever there is no respect for women, no happiness can be achieved. Well said: यत्र नार्यस्तु पूज्यन्ते, रमन्ते तत्र देवता:| Read my earlier thread : Jatland ki Chaupal (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14985) . Any good human being can bring peace.
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cooljat
February 8th, 2007, 11:52 AM
Well, I think not at all!!
I remember famous kahavat - 'Ish Duniya mein teen hi cheezon ki sabse badi ladai hai - Jar, Joru aur Jameen!!'
so I wonder how come women bring peace to world!!
just curious....dont take me otherwise, plz!!

Rock on
Jit

netrapalsingh
February 8th, 2007, 12:47 PM
Well, I think not at all!!
I remember famous kahavat - 'Ish Duniya mein teen hi cheezon ki sabse badi ladai hai - Jar, Joru aur Jameen!!'
so I wonder how come women bring peace to world!!
just curious....dont take me otherwise, plz!!

Rock on
Jit

theek kaha aapne jeet bhai par aage ladaiy jar, gulam or jameen kee hovegee:) :) ...........jo nyue tarakki hotti rahee............(joru shabd sirf kitabo me rah gaya hai)



netra

netrapalsingh
February 8th, 2007, 12:51 PM
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डरता हूं कहीं जाटलैंड की जाटणियां बुरा न मान जायें । पुराने इतिहास में ज्यादातर युद्ध किसी महिला के कारण ही हुए हैं - शायद आज भी हो रहे हैं । रामायण, महाभारत, Helen of Troy, Cleopatra आदि इसके उदाहरण हैं । पहले भी कई बार राजसत्ता उन्हें सौंपी गई है पर वे अपने राज्य में शान्ति स्थापित करने में कामयाब नहीं हो सकीं । यह एक आम धारणा है, जरूरी नहीं कि हर जगह यह बात सच हो । अमेरिका में भी आज तक किसी महिला को राष्ट्रपति नहीं बनाया गया ।

वैज्ञानिकों का यह भी कहना है कि महिलाओं के मस्तिष्क का साईज पुरुषों के मुकाबले कुछ कम होता है और धीमे काम करता है - ठीक एक कंप्यूटर के प्रोसेसर की तरह - जिनकी स्पीड अलग-अलग होती है ।

शान्ति का पता नहीं - तुलसीदास ने तो यहाँ तक लिख दिया - तिरिया चरित जाने नहीं कोई, पति मार कर सती होई । इस पर तुलसीदास की काफी आलोचना भी हुई ।

एक धागा लिखूंगा "तिरिया चरित" शीर्षक से - humor फोरम में । अगर यहां या Current Affairs में लिख दिया तो शायद कईयों को करंट लग जायेगा ! :p :p
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तिरिया चरित जाने नहीं कोई, पति मार कर सती होई

sir jee ram ram, ye doha to theek hai par aslee bhool gaye aap
tulsidas jee ka dhol.....................................adhikari. ....
jisme 4 purush or ek naree par doha nari ke lye hai.

netra..

Samarkadian
February 8th, 2007, 08:04 PM
Thanks a ton Ladies and Gentlemen for contributing towards this thread.After going through sevral interesting and though provoking posts,I have decided to write again what I have learned.

What can a woman do in bringing peace? This is strictly speaking about the theoretical aspects. In real sense peace is a very subjective issue. Many might agree that peace is a state in which a person perceives no threats – physical as well as emotional. Leaving aside the definition and perceptions, peace as comprehensive human security and not just absence of war or armed-conflicts is something people can look forward to and strive for.

It has been stressed time and again that women can play constructive roles in bringing peace wherein a human can aspire for a secure life. But how far is this true and possible? Women, because of their negotiation skills, might have been unanimously chosen as the forerunner of peace. And this assumption is well supported by the fact that 1000 women were nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize 2005 and collectively referred to as Peace Women. These women worked in different fields to bring peace. There was a woman from Sudan who initiated a movement against female circumcision, a doctor trying to build an emotional bridge between Palestinians and Israelis, a social activist rescuing and helping the victims of Godhra rebuild their lives, an illiterate woman striving for a superstition-free world in an interior village of Assam.

If a woman is given the responsibility of bringing peace, she should be given the right to decide how this responsibility should be materialized. If a woman is not yet able to decide, her capacity must be built. the participation of women as mothers and parents crucial to develop the proper qualities in children to become agents for peace, but the influence of women in the affairs of the world, through their participation in all areas of activity on a full and equal footing with men is also an essential element to make war once and forever obsolete.

Further, women could help reverse a prevalent philosophy of life that assumes that human beings are captive of the natural world, and that human behavior must therefore resemble that of animals; since the resultant struggle for material wealth is one with which women are very familiar, having long been victims of a system that values material productivity as the mark of success, but does not lead to security, happiness, or well-being for anyone.

There is a great need in our world today to include in education cooperative approaches involving respect for the potential realization of the highest qualities in every human being. Further cooperative attitudes and respect for others in the family will encourage the acceptance of rights for everyone: the respect for children and for women is enhanced in families where moral and spiritual values underlie the concern for material well-being. In addition, when these attitudes are extended from the family to the nation and the world, they hold great promise for lessening and eventually abolishing those divisive prejudices that have seriously inhibited growth and development.

In Last, I would love to share my favourite poem by Ada Aharoni.



"PEACE IS A WOMAN AND A MOTHER"

How do you know
peace is a woman?
I know, for
I met her yesterday
on my winding way
to the world's fare.
She had such a sorrowful face
just like a golden flower faded
before her prime.

I asked her why
she was so sad?
She told me her baby
was killed in Auschwitz,
her daughter in Hiroshima
and her sons in Vietnam,
Ireland, Israel, Lebanon,
Bosnia, Rwanda and Chechnya.

All the rest of her children,
she said,
are on the nuclear
black-list of the dead,
all the rest, unless
the whole world understands -
that peace is a woman.

A thousand candles then lit
in her starry eyes, and I saw -
Peace is indeed
a pregnant woman,
Peace is a mother

neels
February 8th, 2007, 08:07 PM
We have a Nobel peace prize winner for 2004 is Prof W.Mathai from Africa.
MY role model.

Yes they can bring peace.How many more want to say? Come on!

Y only One,,, In the History of Nobel Peace Prize, it has been awarded to 12 women. And then the collectively nominated 1000 women from around the world for the Nobel Peace Prize in 2005.
Have people forgotton Mother Teresa or Sister Nivedita's contribution....?


I remember famous kahavat - 'Ish Duniya mein teen hi cheezon ki sabse badi ladai hai - Jar, Joru aur Jameen!!'
so I wonder how come women bring peace to world!!
Really wondering Jit If you think so....? If there has been any fights over Jar, Joru, aur Jameen, its because these 3 have been considered the mark of dignity in any ones' life, and one who respect these, will do anything to maintain their respect.

neels
February 8th, 2007, 08:12 PM
"PEACE IS A WOMAN AND A MOTHER"

How do you know
peace is a woman?
...........................-
Peace is indeed
a pregnant woman,
Peace is a mother

Very B'ful, touchy n meaningful....!

poonam
February 8th, 2007, 08:14 PM
In Last, I would love to share my favourite poem by Ada Aharoni.
"PEACE IS A WOMAN AND A MOTHER"

How do you know
peace is a woman?
I know, for
I met her yesterday
on my winding way
to the world's fare.
She had such a sorrowful face
just like a golden flower faded
before her prime.

I asked her why
she was so sad?
She told me her baby
was killed in Auschwitz,
her daughter in Hiroshima
and her sons in Vietnam,
Ireland, Israel, Lebanon,
Bosnia, Rwanda and Chechnya.

All the rest of her children,
she said,
are on the nuclear
black-list of the dead,
all the rest, unless
the whole world understands -
that peace is a woman.

A thousand candles then lit
in her starry eyes, and I saw -
Peace is indeed
a pregnant woman,
Peace is a mother

Very touching!!

rkumar
February 8th, 2007, 08:41 PM
"PEACE IS A WOMAN AND A MOTHER"

How do you know
peace is a woman?
I know, for
I met her yesterday
on my winding way
to the world's fare.
She had such a sorrowful face
just like a golden flower faded
before her prime.

I asked her why
she was so sad?
She told me her baby
was killed in Auschwitz,
her daughter in Hiroshima
and her sons in Vietnam,
Ireland, Israel, Lebanon,
Bosnia, Rwanda and Chechnya.

All the rest of her children,
she said,
are on the nuclear
black-list of the dead,
all the rest, unless
the whole world understands -
that peace is a woman.

A thousand candles then lit
in her starry eyes, and I saw -
Peace is indeed
a pregnant woman,
Peace is a mother

Fathers are as if all violence ? As if they don't have heart and its all monopoly of mothers...LOL

RK^2

ritu
February 8th, 2007, 08:58 PM
bahut hi acchi poem jisne bhi likhi hai

monikadahiya
February 8th, 2007, 09:43 PM
bohot hee acchi poem..:)

pnauhwar21
February 9th, 2007, 03:33 AM
Thanks a ton Ladies and Gentlemen for contributing towards this thread.After going through sevral interesting and though provoking posts,I have decided to write again what I have learned.

What can a woman do in bringing peace? This is strictly speaking about the theoretical aspects. In real sense peace is a very subjective issue. Many might agree that peace is a state in which a person perceives no threats – physical as well as emotional. Leaving aside the definition and perceptions, peace as comprehensive human security and not just absence of war or armed-conflicts is something people can look forward to and strive for.



Good write up Samar bhai but lagta hai kuchh log tumhara lekh chura rahe hain or probably you write with a different name too.. any idea who is Akoijam Sunita from Imphal?

http://www.kanglaonline.com/index.php?template=headline&newsid=1442&typeid=0

Please don't mind, but either write on your own or mention the source of write-up. It has happened so many times on Jatland that I get impressed with some really great write-ups and then find out its plagiarism. Please correct me if I am wrong...

Samarkadian
February 9th, 2007, 10:15 AM
Good write up Samar bhai but lagta hai kuchh log tumhara lekh chura rahe hain or probably you write with a different name too.. any idea who is Akoijam Sunita from Imphal?

http://www.kanglaonline.com/index.php?template=headline&newsid=1442&typeid=0

Please don't mind, but either write on your own or mention the source of write-up. It has happened so many times on Jatland that I get impressed with some really great write-ups and then find out its plagiarism. Please correct me if I am wrong...

Right Sir, I referered so many sources,It just skipped.Thanks for adding.I will try to mention in future.Intention here was not to impress anyone with write up rather to bring topic in focus.

cooljat
February 9th, 2007, 10:47 AM
Very Touchin :)






"PEACE IS A WOMAN AND A MOTHER"

How do you know
peace is a woman?
I know, for
I met her yesterday
on my winding way
to the world's fare.
She had such a sorrowful face
just like a golden flower faded
before her prime.

I asked her why
she was so sad?
She told me her baby
was killed in Auschwitz,
her daughter in Hiroshima
and her sons in Vietnam,
Ireland, Israel, Lebanon,
Bosnia, Rwanda and Chechnya.

All the rest of her children,
she said,
are on the nuclear
black-list of the dead,
all the rest, unless
the whole world understands -
that peace is a woman.

A thousand candles then lit
in her starry eyes, and I saw -
Peace is indeed
a pregnant woman,
Peace is a mother

dndeswal
February 9th, 2007, 11:01 AM
Very Touchin :)


This poem has been written by Ada Adorni, who has written several books. Some of her works are mentioned on the following web page:

http://www.iflac.com/ada/books.htm (http://www.iflac.com/ada/books.htm)
.

cooljat
February 9th, 2007, 11:33 AM
hey neels,
u got me wrong!!
I meant that its not in hand of women bring peace to world rather its in the hands of Man and in general Human!!

Its not the women fault if she comes in these 3 things!!

Rock on
Jit





Really wondering Jit If you think so....? If there has been any fights over Jar, Joru, aur Jameen, its because these 3 have been considered the mark of dignity in any ones' life, and one who respect these, will do anything to maintain their respect.

cooljat
February 9th, 2007, 11:35 AM
hummmm. Uncleji le aaye aap result kaad ke....haaaa eib bera naa kad google devta band ho jaaye aur apne jat devta Deshwal saab internet pe raaz karen!!:D :D :p :D :D

in a lighter note...dont be frown!! :)

Rock on
Jit





This poem has been written by Ada Adorni, who has written several books. Some of her works are mentioned on the following web page:

http://www.iflac.com/ada/books.htm (http://www.iflac.com/ada/books.htm)
.

delhione
February 10th, 2007, 02:49 PM
Dear samar and all,
i deeply acknowledge your distinguished and beautiful thoughts. your understanding on this topic and opinion based on your academic studies and personal research is remarkable. the topic chosen by samar and contribution by the rest of the participating community is of immense importance because in the recorded history of world we have only few examples where the woman was a key factor for the ignition of war , but there have been a very acceptable track record of woman as a peace icon.
thankyou all for your valuable time and sharing of your glowing minds.
thank you !!

rkumar
February 10th, 2007, 05:34 PM
there is a big diffrenece beteen peace and violence. We need involvement of everyone to bring peace whereas one person is enough to create violence.. This is why peace is very rare commidity..

RK^2

desijat
February 12th, 2007, 11:38 PM
har kisi ne suna

Saas - bahu ke kisse

Devrani Jethani ki ladaiyan

Nand Bhabhi ki Takrar....

:p :p :p
Aadmi kaa sirf ek jagah suna hoga, Sarhad par.......

Samarkadian
February 12th, 2007, 11:50 PM
Comman but true to a limit.Raising up kids isnt less than a battle.

bls31
February 19th, 2007, 10:47 AM
"God might not reach to everyone,Thaty He created Women n hence Mother"

Hello Warriors,
Like world is shrinking in refernce to technology,war for resources, clash of cultures happening frequently.Counteries are getting intolerant.Peace seems to be a rare commodity, always in demand but absent in stock. Since woman is more pro-peace than war-obsessed man.Its her natural make up. And men has to confront women at home , be he is president of a nation or soldier or a scientist or a comman man. I want to ask women ( Men, How do you think ,if she can,How can she?) of Jatland, How you can contribute ,if given a chance, to add up to the world peace.?

Why alone make women responsible for bringing peace?Can even humanity by it self bring peace to this world?Now we are talking of militarization of space, the last frontier.In any case men and women compliment eachother so if peace has to brought about it has to be a joint responsibility
BLS31

Samarkadian
February 19th, 2007, 10:55 AM
Indeed participation of both is the key,since biologicaly women are pro peace , she has to be given space in decision making.Like in our culture woman has given the name 'Ardhaangini' . In male dominated society,definatly women's role is there in peace process. Since there is huge imbalance regarding role of women in major things, thaty i started this debate.

bls31
February 19th, 2007, 05:46 PM
Indeed participation of both is the key,since biologicaly women are pro peace , she has to be given space in decision making.Like in our culture woman has given the name 'Ardhaangini' . In male dominated society,definatly women's role is there in peace process. Since there is huge imbalance regarding role of women in major things, thaty i started this debate.

A noble thought, a noble mission that you have undertaken shall we also think about bridging the gap between Jat and Jat . my good wishes for the venture in any case.

Brig Lakshman

Samarkadian
February 19th, 2007, 08:18 PM
Indeed Your blessings and wishes are the best contribution Sir.Gap between Jat And Jat would definatly be narrow.Thanks