View Full Version : ~~~~~ ? Love is an old wine ? ~~~~~
shweta123
November 21st, 2007, 07:14 PM
Hmmm ! Sounds interesting ! :p
Well, a very genuine question arose in my mind and I thought of seeking opinions here, coz this is a place where multitudes of experiences pour down and mostly it satiates the quench behind asking the question. :)
Coming to the topic now, I have often observed that when a person enters into any kind of "love" relationship, then that relationship witnesses various kinds of phases on its passage down the lane of time. At times the couple feels totally mad for each other, at some other times they feel secure and cared over, but there are times too when this relationship sees gloomy clouds and the same people get a feel of asking their souls out, whether am I loving a right person or was I wrong till date and all the love was an instant infatuation coupled with no use of the practical head ? And hereby sinks in fumes of despair and even some events crop up which end up looking sour. Some relationships come out of this phase unhurt and with a winning smile, but some even just end up leaving behind fields of sorrows ! Now, what I wish to ask comprises of some questions which go like this :
1- Is love a bubble, I mean is love a feeling which is meant to be shortlived or can it be life-long ?
2- A usual quote "Aaj hi saari pyar ke baate mat kar lo, kal ke liye bhi to kuch bachao, kahi aisa na ho ki kal baate hi na mile karne ko" - Does expressing love loses its charm if its expressed daily or frequently ? Here I would love to listen from those 'married' persons who have been happily married since years but today also they feel 'genuinely attached' to their spouse and what is it that binds them together and make them feel incomplete without each other even today? And, have they ever felt that they have been left with so less to talk about and how they manage to get out if ever they feel so?
3- In today's times there are hoards of people which wander in search of a new love every now and then because they are not able to live into one relation for long for one reason of the other, and there are even people who find no fault in being in more than one relation at a time. This may give some instant pleasures but there is no possibility of a common 'happy ending' for all parties involved, but it happens, so why do you think such a situation occurs? Why people want love but with no tags attached ? Is it right ?
4- In the end it will be too funny to ask, but let it be ! What is love ? How one can ensure that he or she is in love and its not an infatuation or attraction ?
5- We have had many tips here about how to make husbands happy, women happy etc, now how to make a lover happy ? And how to make a relation really nice and be in it whole life ?
So, everyone is invited to answer whether loves taste better as it grows old, as a wine is said to be :)
shweta123
November 21st, 2007, 07:18 PM
Since a very long time ago, people have searched for the meaning of love. But even the great philosophers, with their profound definitions, could not fully touch its true essence. In a survey of 4-8 year olds, kids share their views on love. But what do little kids know about love? Read on and be surprised that despite their young and innocent minds, kids already have a simple but deep grasp of that four-letter word.
"Love is that first feeling you feel before all the bad stuff gets in the way."
"When my grandmother got arthritis, she couldn't bend over and paint her toenails anymore. So my grandfather does it for her all the time, even when his hands got arthritis too. That's love."
"When someone loves you, the way she says your name is different. You know that your name is safe in her mouth."
"Love is when a girl puts on perfume and a boy puts on shaving cologne and they go out and smell each other."
"Love is when you go out to eat and give somebody most of your french fries without making them give you any of theirs."
"Love is when someone hurts you. And you get so mad but you don't yell at him because you know it would hurt his feelings."
"Love is what makes you smile when you're tired."
"Love is when my mommy makes coffee for my daddy and she takes a sip before giving it to him, to make sure the taste is OK."
"Love is when you kiss all the time. Then when you get tired of kissing, you still want to be together and you talk more. My mommy and daddy are like that. They look gross when they kiss but they look happy and sometimes they dance in the kitchen while kissing."
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"Love is what's in the room with you at Christmas if you stop opening presents and listen."
"Love is hugging. Love is kissing. Love is saying no."
"When you tell someone something bad about yourself and you're scared she won't love you anymore. But then you get surprised because not only does she still love you, she loves you even more."
"There are 2 kinds of love. Our love. God's love. But God makes both kinds of them."
"Love is when you tell a guy you like his shirt, then he wears it everyday."
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"Love is like a little old woman and a little old man who are still friends even after they've know each other so well."
"During my piano recital, I was on a stage and scared. I looked at all the people watching me and saw my daddy waving and smiling. He was the only one doing that. I wasn't scared anymore."
"Love is-if you hold hands and sit beside each other in the cafeteria. That means you're in love. Otherwise, you can sit across from each other and be okay."
"My mommy loves me more than anybody. You don't see anyone else kissing me to sleep at night."
"Love is when mommy gives daddy the best piece of chicken."
"Don't feel so bad if you don't have a boyfriend. There's lots of stuff you can do without one."
"Love is when mommy sees daddy smelly and sweaty and still says he is handsomer than Robert Redford."
"If you want somebody to love you, then just be yourself. Some people try to act like somebody else, somebody the boy likes better. I think the boy isn't being very good if he does this to you and you should just find a nicer boy."
"Love is when your puppy licks your face even after you left him alone all day"
"When you're born and see your mommy for the first time.
"Love goes on even when you stop breathing and you pick up where you left off when you reach heaven."
"My enemies taught me how to love."
"You really shouldn't say 'I love you' unless you mean it. But if you mean it, you should say it a lot. People forget."
"You have to fall in love before you get married. Then when you're married, you just sit around and read books together."
"I let my big sister pick on me because my Mom says she only picks on me because she loves me. So I pick on my baby sister because I love her."
"Love cards like Valentine's cards say stuff on them that we'd like to say ourselves, but we wouldn't be caught dead saying."
"When you love somebody, your eyelashes go up and down and little stars come out of you."
"Love is when mommy sees daddy on the toilet and she doesn't think it's gross."
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"You never have to be lonely. There's always somebody to love, even if it's just a squirrel or a kitten."
"You can break love, but it won't die."
poonam
November 21st, 2007, 07:25 PM
Love is like a brain on drugs....:D
sidchhikara
November 22nd, 2007, 12:27 AM
Love is like a brain on drugs....:D
hahahahaha! which one? ... i think LSD.
deepshi
November 22nd, 2007, 09:21 AM
Love is when v go crazy kissin ...even though he smells of beer,,onions,,,cigarettes..
Love is when u look up 4 him to turn up--all day,,n wen he does,,u find excuses to disappear...
Love is the constant fear,at d bk of ur mind,,dat u r on a high (alrighty Poons-its a drug,,worse than methylamphetamine) ,,n God may make u fall down badly...with a loud thud,,n ul lose him!
Love is wen u cook his fav things,,do stuff 4 him,,n pretend,,u did it just like dat,,out of a whim,had no other options...cudnt care less!
Love is when he asks--Did u miss him? n u r all flushed, white knuckled,,n put an act of givin an offhand, rude reply..n suddenly regret ur guts off!
Love is when u r writin in such threads,,,n worry dat he NEVER reads them!!
dreamer
November 22nd, 2007, 10:34 AM
I dont know .. in the earlier threads i have put my these thoughts or not !
yet again here are they !!
I read in a book ... "A Road Less Traveled" .. Shweta .. Love is not a feeling for sure ... my little exp. nearing 2 yrs now married life with my loving(u see hopefully love will be there till heaven is there) wife tells me that its not a feeling for sure ...
U know Time is the biggest enemy of feelings ... Feelings die with time if u dont speak to ur best friend for a long time then feelings of so called best friendship itself dies .. And IF some near and dear ones die then after Cries of a month or so ... everything settles down as there was nothing happened ! It always helps too .. so Time is the biggest friend of Us .. It heals everything i really mean it really everything ...
Initial days of marriage are all honeymoon days and anywhere u feel on the moon .. I tell you no need to visit Manali (the most common honeymoon spot yes i know it is :p) when u are in 1st year of marriage. Still people go there in 1st week itself dont know y :confused: !
As time goes on ... The Current u know sensation goes downhill and number of cuddles, touches, embraces, kisses decrease yes they do ! believe it or not !!
U STILL SAY THAT I Love my counterpart !
Because U do ! Really u do ... There is a chapter in the book . LOVE IS WORK .. Constant work . You have to toll hard to stay in love. I have not seen my dad cuddles my mom in my whole life.. But still they love each other.. One have to work because u will have to remember birthdate of his/her's , u will have to ask "what's wrong" when it seems there is something wrong , u will have to take her for a movie BHAIYON , you will have to do things (which show u care for Him/Her) ur whole LIFE.
Ub likh toh kitna hi lyo .. Per all in all ... Love is not a Feeling ...
But remember Love's Labor never lost !! So if u love her/him do something !!
u know do is the "helping verb" used where ever some work is going to happen !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Last but not least ... this all is not only for love birds ... love for anyone Brother, Sister, Mom, Dad and really anyone
CHEERS .. All the Loving and Loved People out there
Waiting for ur comments ... Senior people out there having loads of experience
cooljat
November 22nd, 2007, 11:58 AM
Gud!! or may be like heart on Beer!! :p;):p
Cant really say much here as I've not experienced this divine feeling called Luv....but, but if Luv is like a rare old wine!!...then it wud certainly feel like heaven!! :rolleyes:
Rock on
Jit
Love is like a brain on drugs....:D
mukeshkumar007
November 22nd, 2007, 12:04 PM
Hey Bhagwan Bhai!!!!!!!
nehasinghaz
November 22nd, 2007, 03:42 PM
love is an asset for every body . it gives the strength at the weak moments in the life and makes u stronger enough to cross all the hardles and reach ur distination.The older it is , the stronger it is. More u share the more u get in return .love is a beautiful feeling which makes the earth a better place to live in.
vivekdh
November 22nd, 2007, 04:06 PM
"To love is to suffer. To avoid suffering one must not love. But then one suffers from not loving. Therefore to love is to suffer, not to love is to suffer. To suffer is to suffer. To be happy is to love. To be happy then is to suffer. But suffering makes one unhappy. Therefore, to be unhappy one must love, or love to suffer, or suffer from too much happiness. I hope you're getting this down." - Woody Allen, Love and Death :D:D
stokas
November 23rd, 2007, 12:35 AM
Finding the solutions!!
stokas
November 23rd, 2007, 12:36 AM
Posted over and again! Still finding the solution!
stokas
November 23rd, 2007, 12:40 AM
Finally found myself!!
Samarkadian
November 23rd, 2007, 01:02 AM
Love is child of an illusion and father of delusion.
Some ******* endorphins working in headoffice. and ya no real love exists other than lady who has womb connection for you. rest may show care n concern for you.
stokas
November 23rd, 2007, 01:03 AM
"When my grandmother got arthritis, she couldn't bend over and paint her toenails anymore. So my grandfather does it for her all the time, even when his hands got arthritis too. That's love."
"When someone loves you, the way she says your name is different. You know that your name is safe in her mouth."
"Love is when a girl puts on perfume and a boy puts on shaving cologne and they go out and smell each other."
"Love is when you go out to eat and give somebody most of your french fries without making them give you any of theirs."
"Love is when someone hurts you. And you get so mad but you don't yell at him because you know it would hurt his feelings."
"Love is what makes you smile when you're tired."
"Love is when my mommy makes coffee for my daddy and she takes a sip before giving it to him, to make sure the taste is OK."
"Love is when you kiss all the time. Then when you get tired of kissing, you still want to be together and you talk more. My mommy and daddy are like that. They look gross when they kiss but they look happy and sometimes they dance in the kitchen while kissing."
[CENTER]"Love is hugging. Love is kissing. Love is saying no."
"Love is like a little old woman and a little old man who are still friends even after they've known each other so well."
"Love is-if you hold hands and sit beside each other in the cafeteria. That means you're in love. Otherwise, you can sit across from each other and be okay."
"My mommy loves me more than anybody. You don't see anyone else kissing me to sleep at night."
"If you want somebody to love you, then just be yourself. Some people try to act like somebody else"
"Love is when your puppy licks your face even after you left him alone all day"
"When you're born and see your mommy for the first time.
"You really shouldn't say 'I love you' unless you mean it. But if you mean it, you should say it a lot. People forget."
"You never have to be lonely. There's always somebody to love, even if it's just a squirrel or a kitten."
"You can break love, but it won't die."
I am loving myself Shweta!
I dont know .. in the earlier threads i have put my these thoughts or not !
yet again here are they !!
I read in a book ... "A Road Less Traveled" .. Shweta .. Love is not a feeling for sure!
CHEERS .. All the Loving and Loved People out there
Waiting for ur comments ... Senior people out there having loads of experience
Absolutely, love can never be a feeling! But, it’s definitely an emotion towards some person or some thing!
Love can be:
Shraddha – for Parents or our seniors!
Sneh – for our Children or younger ones!
Bhakti – towards God
Moh – for Money etc.
Mamta – with animals/birds/humans
Mohabbat/Pyaar – with Wife/Husband
Dostana/Yarana – with our nearest friend (and not whole lot of friends!)
"To love is to suffer. To avoid suffering one must not love. But then one suffers from not loving. Therefore to love is to suffer, not to love is to suffer. To suffer is to suffer. To be happy is to love. To be happy then is to suffer. But suffering makes one unhappy. Therefore, to be unhappy one must love, or love to suffer, or suffer from too much happiness. I hope you're getting this down." - Woody Allen, Love and Death :D:D
I don't want to suffer while reading all this:D Although, I have already suffered a lot!;)
I love you all! Keep loving yourselves! Always!!:)
gaganjat
November 23rd, 2007, 01:45 AM
hahahahahah what the hell are you guys discussing ! 2-4 log to likhte likhte ro hi pade mere khayal se
ritu
November 23rd, 2007, 02:18 AM
samar well said.ma ke pyar ke alava har pyar me kahi na kahi swarth chuppa hota hai.
Love is child of an illusion and father of delusion.
Some ******* endorphins working in headoffice. and ya no real love exists other than lady who has womb connection for you. rest may show care n concern for you.
spdeshwal
November 23rd, 2007, 02:28 AM
"To love is to suffer. To avoid suffering one must not love. But then one suffers from not loving. Therefore to love is to suffer, not to love is to suffer. To suffer is to suffer. To be happy is to love. To be happy then is to suffer. But suffering makes one unhappy. Therefore, to be unhappy one must love, or love to suffer, or suffer from too much happiness. I hope you're getting this down." - Woody Allen, Love and Death :D:D
It sounds very negative, whereas love is the most "positive feeling". Love gives you purpose of life.Your sufferings are due to disappointments from over expectations.In fact our high expectations from any relationship is the root cause for are disappointments and sufferings. Love is giving and giving only. love is selfless. So vivek don't stop loving.
with lots of love and cheers!
shashiverma
November 23rd, 2007, 07:11 PM
Love...old wine...hmmm.......not bad at all shweta....That must be something surely great.....grapes taste real gud....and.......old wine must be heaven then....very much like the innocent eyes of kids ...and.......warmth and coziness one can sense in the eyes of an old couple with few words and many unsaid understandings.....one with eyes of dreams of tomorrow..and other with the lovely experiences of past and present.... But I guess both share something wonderful...called love
Faces and expression of love may vary depending upon the shape of relation....but i m sure love at every stage discover its own language......be it innocent smiles in school days.....be it words....be it moments of joy...be it lovely arguments....be it the blank phone call mumma wait for after a fight with dad, even after so many years......be it a concern shown by grany although she know that grandpa would do irrespective of what she suggest....but she know that her words are awaited as they mean something more than mere words of concern.........
Perhaps any journey accompanied with the sweetness and bitterness of love.....carry its own kind of charm...... Tears and smiles together speak volumes....
navingulia
November 23rd, 2007, 08:34 PM
for me its very simple
when you 'care' for other person, his feelings, his needs and wishes, it is true love
if you 'care' for your own desire, possessiveness, jealousy, its not love, its infatuation
for me loving means 'to care'
sumitsehrawat
November 23rd, 2007, 09:10 PM
"To love is to suffer. To avoid suffering one must not love. But then one suffers from not loving. Therefore to love is to suffer, not to love is to suffer. To suffer is to suffer. To be happy is to love. To be happy then is to suffer. But suffering makes one unhappy. Therefore, to be unhappy one must love, or love to suffer, or suffer from too much happiness. I hope you're getting this down." - Woody Allen, Love and Death :D:D
Vivek bhai iska matlab kya hai??:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
dimaag ke ander paseene aa gaye....pls thoda asaaan sa likho :):)
sumitsehrawat
November 23rd, 2007, 09:21 PM
Extracted from : A Walk to Remember(2002)
"Love is always patient and kind. It is never jealous. Love is never boastful or conceited. It is never rude or selfish. It does not take offence and is not resentful. Love takes no pleasure in other people's sins but delights in the truth. It is always ready to excuse, to trust, to hope and to endure whatever comes."
I would recommend this movie(A walk to remember) to anyone who needs to know what love is all about. It is "A Must Watch".
Thanks,
Sumit
raj_rathee
November 24th, 2007, 05:44 AM
Love is the desire to give benevolently.
So what is it that we give? Well it could be anything that we
have a choice over. Our time, thoughts, efforts, money, loyalty,
our physical bodies and so on.
Pure love is the desire to give without any reciprocal desire
to get.It is the highest form of love.
Parent's love for their newborns probably comes closest to pure
love. A mother's love is the purest as she gives the most and
often expects the least in return. However the
nature of this love can change over time as it gets affected
by our desire to get.
All wordly problems that are associated with love are because
most of us humans are baniyas/traders by our very nature.We
give but we expect to get in return as well. The more we give
the more we want to get.When this equation between give and take,
or our perceptions of it, gets off balance, "love" takes a
hit and problems occur.
1- Is love a bubble, I mean is love a feeling which is meant
to be shortlived or can it be life-long ?
If you can love purely it should last eternity. Or at least
a life-time. For most of us, however, it comes down to striking a
good balance between the give and get. If the balance is
maintained then it sure can be lifelong. But of course, such
love is at the mercy of the other as much as yourself.If desires and
expectations aren't in sync it can be hard.
2- A usual quote "Aaj hi saari pyar ke baate mat kar lo, kal ke
liye bhi to kuch bachao, kahi aisa na ho ki kal baate hi na mile
karne ko" - Does expressing love loses its charm if its expressed
daily or frequently ? Here I would love to listen from those
'married' persons who have been happily married since years
but today also they feel 'genuinely attached' to their spouse
and what is it that binds them together and make them feel
incomplete without each other even today? And, have they ever
felt that they have been left with so less to talk about and
how they manage to get out if ever they feel so?
The "baate" element is probably truer in the initial stages
because that is when we are trying to strike the "initial
deal" (remember the trader analogy). We are trying to size up
what we are going to get in return.
As time goes by and love persists, one would assume that the
balance has been struck. It becomes far less necessary to talk.
Expectations have been set and accepted. Trust has been built.
Love thrives in the balance.
The same is true for a great friendship as well.
3- In today's times there are hoards of people which wander
in search of a new love every now and then because they are
not able to live into one relation for long for one reason
of the other, and there are even people who find no fault
in being in more than one relation at a time. This may give
some instant pleasures but there is no possibility of a common
'happy ending' for all parties involved, but it happens, so
why do you think such a situation occurs? Why people want love
but with no tags attached ? Is it right ?
This has nothing to do with "today's times". This has
always existed.Only its manifestation has changed in its character
with changes in society.
We are inherently capable of loving immensely. We can love
many simultaneuosly. Love without tags and boundaries is wonderful
and very joyful. I think our true nature wants to love freely.
However, a relationship is based on the give and take equation.
There are some who feel gated and trapped by this. Perhaps
the "open relationships" are a result of two people of similar
nature coming together and understanding each other's desire to
be free of artifical boundaries.
Nothing wrong with any of this.
But if the equation isn't balanced a relationship suffers.
Simple as that.If part of the equation allows one or
both to "wander", the relationship can work just fine.
4- In the end it will be too funny to ask, but let it be !
What is love ? How one can ensure that he or she is in love
and its not an infatuation or attraction ?
Well love is already defined above.
A man-woman relationship has a strong physical element to it.
This physical element can be the instigator or primary driver
of the relationship (so called love at first sight), or it may
emerge later on (as in a friendship that turns to love).
Love or infatuation? It really ain't easy to know. It is never
easy but we become better
judges with age and experience. Unfortunately, the teens and
20s is an age where we are still too immature to judge.
Frankly the oder we are the better judges we become. And that
doesn't help, does it?
The best bet is trying to ensure that the relationship
is multi-faceted and that the physical element isn't majority
of it.
At the end of the day it again goes back to finding the give and
take balance. And knowing if that balance is likely to be struck
can take time (and requires good judgement).
Family/friends often can judge better as "outsiders" when our
own minds are clouded since they often have a good understanding
of our give-take dynamics.
5- We have had many tips here about how to make husbands happy,
women happy etc, now how to make a lover happy ? And how to make
a relation really nice and be in it whole life ?
Know what you have to give. Know what you want to get.
Try to strike a good deal!!
That's all you can do for a relationship.
As for love, love freely. And if possible, love purely. Loving
purely will always give you joy and never hurt.
cooljat
November 24th, 2007, 10:21 PM
Cant Agree more then it!! Best balanced n thought provoking Reply so Far!! The way Raj Bhai described luv is so Enlightening!! Salutations n Kudos to u bhai! :):):)
I really admire the way u pondered here !! Outstanding indeed!
Rock on
Jit
Love is the desire to give benevolently.
So what is it that we give? Well it could be anything that we
have a choice over. Our time, thoughts, efforts, money, loyalty,
our physical bodies and so on.
Pure love is the desire to give without any reciprocal desire
to get.It is the highest form of love.
Parent's love for their newborns probably comes closest to pure
love. [A mother's love is the purest as she gives the most and
often expects the least in return. However the
nature of this love can change over time as it gets affected
by our desire to get.
All wordly problems that are associated with love are because
most of us humans are baniyas/traders by our very nature.We
give but we expect to get in return as well. The more we give
the more we want to get.When this equation between give and take,
or our perceptions of it, gets off balance, "love" takes a
hit and problems occur.
1- Is love a bubble, I mean is love a feeling which is meant
to be shortlived or can it be life-long ?
If you can love purely it should last eternity. Or at least
a life-time. For most of us, however, it comes down to striking a
good balance between the give and get. If the balance is
maintained then it sure can be lifelong. But of course, such
love is at the mercy of the other as much as yourself.If desires and
expectations aren't in sync it can be hard.
2- A usual quote "Aaj hi saari pyar ke baate mat kar lo, kal ke
liye bhi to kuch bachao, kahi aisa na ho ki kal baate hi na mile
karne ko" - Does expressing love loses its charm if its expressed
daily or frequently ? Here I would love to listen from those
'married' persons who have been happily married since years
but today also they feel 'genuinely attached' to their spouse
and what is it that binds them together and make them feel
incomplete without each other even today? And, have they ever
felt that they have been left with so less to talk about and
how they manage to get out if ever they feel so?
The "baate" element is probably truer in the initial stages
because that is when we are trying to strike the "initial
deal" (remember the trader analogy). We are trying to size up
what we are going to get in return.
As time goes by and love persists, one would assume that the
balance has been struck. It becomes far less necessary to talk.
Expectations have been set and accepted. Trust has been built.
Love thrives in the balance.
The same is true for a great friendship as well.
3- In today's times there are hoards of people which wander
in search of a new love every now and then because they are
not able to live into one relation for long for one reason
of the other, and there are even people who find no fault
in being in more than one relation at a time. This may give
some instant pleasures but there is no possibility of a common
'happy ending' for all parties involved, but it happens, so
why do you think such a situation occurs? Why people want love
but with no tags attached ? Is it right ?
This has nothing to do with "today's times". This has
always existed.Only its manifestation has changed in its character
with changes in society.
We are inherently capable of loving immensely. We can love
many simultaneuosly. Love without tags and boundaries is wonderful
and very joyful. I think our true nature wants to love freely.
However, a relationship is based on the give and take equation.
There are some who feel gated and trapped by this. Perhaps
the "open relationships" are a result of two people of similar
nature coming together and understanding each other's desire to
be free of artifical boundaries.
Nothing wrong with any of this.
But if the equation isn't balanced a relationship suffers.
Simple as that.If part of the equation allows one or
both to "wander", the relationship can work just fine.
4- In the end it will be too funny to ask, but let it be !
What is love ? How one can ensure that he or she is in love
and its not an infatuation or attraction ?
Well love is already defined above.
A man-woman relationship has a strong physical element to it.
This physical element can be the instigator or primary driver
of the relationship (so called love at first sight), or it may
emerge later on (as in a friendship that turns to love).
Love or infatuation? It really ain't easy to know. It is never
easy but we become better
judges with age and experience. Unfortunately, the teens and
20s is an age where we are still too immature to judge.
Frankly the oder we are the better judges we become. And that
doesn't help, does it?
The best bet is trying to ensure that the relationship
is multi-faceted and that the physical element isn't majority
of it.
At the end of the day it again goes back to finding the give and
take balance. And knowing if that balance is likely to be struck
can take time (and requires good judgement).
Family/friends often can judge better as "outsiders" when our
own minds are clouded since they often have a good understanding
of our give-take dynamics.
5- We have had many tips here about how to make husbands happy,
women happy etc, now how to make a lover happy ? And how to make
a relation really nice and be in it whole life ?
Know what you have to give. Know what you want to get.
Try to strike a good deal!!
That's all you can do for a relationship.
As for love, love freely. And if possible, love purely. Loving
purely will always give you joy and never hurt.
dkumars
November 24th, 2007, 11:00 PM
hahahahahah what the hell are you guys discussing ! 2-4 log to likhte likhte ro hi pade mere khayal se
hey dude ... do u know something othr than what the hell ????
in chat and posts everywhere same thing... :D
shweta123
November 26th, 2007, 07:17 PM
Nice to see some Love experts at work !:)Thanks for the commendable explanations.
Well, what I broadly interpretated from the posts is that the more one tries to explain love, the more it becomes unexplainable & the person has to say in the end that 'aur bhi bahut kuch hota hai ......... !!' & this is what makes it so special ! An absolute explanation to it is never possible ! But the expressions here are commendable, love is a drug, is a fear that he may never read my opinions on these threads, love finds its own explanations at all times,love is an all honeymoon phase at times, it has to be supported by a 'helping verb', it may be like a heart on beer & so on !! Well, I also agree that love requires efforts, its a work but an interesting one, its an art and its much more !
I noticed the sentence that with the pass of time number of cuddles, touches etc tends to decrease, but I believe that this is so because the manner of expression undergoes a change depending on the enhanced responsibilities and a firm feeling that the person who seemed to be a newly discovered treasure one day is now mine forever, I dont need to be insecure of its being vanishing as it would have been felt before, but all this is just due to a newer face of relationship that enters as a binding rope between the two loving souls, but it doesnt means that love has lost, rather its shape has changed. A 'socially recognised and responsible couple' enters the shoes of the earlier 'all carefree love birds', I guess marriage is much more than just loving and being loved and this in turn entails a huge responsibilty too. But, I do agree its quiet essential to strike a balance between the social front and a personal front where there must be some add on romantic packages each day :) Its very essential to make that special someone feel becoming really precious and more respected each passing day, and love knows many languages any of which may be used !!
Waiting for some more experiences :)
shweta123
November 26th, 2007, 07:20 PM
[quote=raj_rathee;154780]Love is the desire to give benevolently.
So what is it that we give? Well it could be anything that we
have a choice over. Our time, thoughts, efforts, money, loyalty,
our physical bodies and so on.
quote]
Special thanks for this long & splendid explanation :)
panwaramit
November 26th, 2007, 07:45 PM
jai ho
They do not love that do not show their love. The course of true love never did run smooth. Love is a familiar. Love is a devil. There is no evil angel but Love.
crsnadar
November 27th, 2007, 01:27 PM
LOVE has a direct connection to MIND
A Mental person rarely LOVE anyone cos cann't recognise
An Animal LOVE but depends on its Mental Ability to recognise LOVE
We can easily distinguish the LOVE of Cat, Dog, Buffalow, Horse, Monkey, Flies, Mosquito, Butterfly, Chimpanji, Snake, Virus, Bacteria
So being just a Living Creature doesn't confirm that one LOVE
MIND has no dependency on one's Edu Qualifications
But we see generally .........
................the one who use his MIND more generally creat Greater Emotions so can better understand LOVE & can better understand other's EMOTIONS
So we can say something done without VESTED INTRESTS or to show your EMOTIONS to someone or to see someone HAPPY is "LOVE"
hahhahhaa
.......Kuchh jyada to nahi likh diya maine...........
;)
Chalo jo bhi hai............jo hai so hai kya karein..?
:rolleyes:
cooljat
December 3rd, 2007, 06:59 PM
A thought provokin poem that describes real Luv!! :)
आदर्श प्रेम - डॉ. हरिवंश राय बच्चन
प्यार किसी को करना लेकिन
कहकर उसे बताना क्या,
अपने को अर्पण करना पर
और को अपनाना क्या |
गुण का ग्राहक बनना लेकिन
गाकर उसे सुनाना क्या,
मन के कल्पित भावो से
औरों को भ्रम में लाना क्या |
ले लेना सुगंध सुमनों की
तोड़ उन्हें मुरझाना क्या,
प्रेम हार पहनना लेकिन
प्रेम पाश फैलाना क्या |
त्याग अंक में पले प्रेम शिशु
उनमे स्वार्थ बताना क्या,
देकर हृदय हृदय पाने की
आशा व्यर्थ लगाना क्या |
Rock on
Jit
solankimk
December 4th, 2007, 08:58 AM
Hmmm ! Sounds interesting ! :p
Well, a very genuine question arose in my mind and I thought of seeking opinions here, coz this is a place where multitudes of experiences pour down and mostly it satiates the quench behind asking the question. :)
Coming to the topic now, I have often observed that when a person enters into any kind of "love" relationship, then that relationship witnesses various kinds of phases on its passage down the lane of time. At times the couple feels totally mad for each other, at some other times they feel secure and cared over, but there are times too when this relationship sees gloomy clouds and the same people get a feel of asking their souls out, whether am I loving a right person or was I wrong till date and all the love was an instant infatuation coupled with no use of the practical head ? And hereby sinks in fumes of despair and even some events crop up which end up looking sour. Some relationships come out of this phase unhurt and with a winning smile, but some even just end up leaving behind fields of sorrows ! Now, what I wish to ask comprises of some questions which go like this :
1- Is love a bubble, I mean is love a feeling which is meant to be shortlived or can it be life-long ?
2- A usual quote "Aaj hi saari pyar ke baate mat kar lo, kal ke liye bhi to kuch bachao, kahi aisa na ho ki kal baate hi na mile karne ko" - Does expressing love loses its charm if its expressed daily or frequently ? Here I would love to listen from those 'married' persons who have been happily married since years but today also they feel 'genuinely attached' to their spouse and what is it that binds them together and make them feel incomplete without each other even today? And, have they ever felt that they have been left with so less to talk about and how they manage to get out if ever they feel so?
3- In today's times there are hoards of people which wander in search of a new love every now and then because they are not able to live into one relation for long for one reason of the other, and there are even people who find no fault in being in more than one relation at a time. This may give some instant pleasures but there is no possibility of a common 'happy ending' for all parties involved, but it happens, so why do you think such a situation occurs? Why people want love but with no tags attached ? Is it right ?
4- In the end it will be too funny to ask, but let it be ! What is love ? How one can ensure that he or she is in love and its not an infatuation or attraction ?
5- We have had many tips here about how to make husbands happy, women happy etc, now how to make a lover happy ? And how to make a relation really nice and be in it whole life ?
So, everyone is invited to answer whether loves taste better as it grows old, as a wine is said to be :)
Shweta
first marry than love. it will not end even after death , be attached to your family. today love is not love its become bad intentions at later stage
bls31
December 21st, 2007, 11:55 AM
An extract from my Book . This happened on the Metro in New York.
Jeet helping to tie my shoe laces makes the matrons around us amazed and go nearly choking with shock and surprise at this strange act. Was it due women’s lib or cross -culture shock?
This was love!
Bls
addy
December 21st, 2007, 03:10 PM
"Well, a very genuine question arose in my mind and I thought of seeking opinions here, coz this is a place where multitudes of experiences pour down and mostly it satiates the quench behind asking the question"....
...I dunno mch abt Love like the rest of u all..parr Shweta ur purpose is met...:)And this is jst the beginning..kyunki humm jat e tae sabb tae badde Philosparr saan..
Maniisha
December 21st, 2007, 03:24 PM
Shweta Di.... Nice topic ..:)
here is some lines wanna share with u all ..
Unki har Nazar me, Ek Dilkash Nasha he Humare Liye ;
Unke har Alfaaz me, Anera Apnapan he Humare Liye;
Unki har Takraron me, Pyaar ka Samundar Chhupa he Humare Liye;
Unke Dil ki Gehraiyon me, Ek Alag sa Shish-mehal he Humare Liye;
Unki Muskurahat ke Khajane me, Base hue he Hum.
Aaj ye Ehsas hua he hame, Ki Ji raha he Aaj bhi koi Humare Liye
Samakar Hume Unki Zindagi ke har Lamhe me..... :)
Love is sweet, love is grand; Love is walking hand in hand. Love is knowing the sweet embrace;
Love is knowing the sweetest taste. Love is knowing the brightest smile;
Love is walking that extra mile. Love is standing all the test; Love is knowing both are best.
Love last through the toughest times; Love is knowing you?ll always be mine.
Love endures the toughest pain; Love is sharing things that are the same.
Love can be tough, but if it is love, it will last; Love is forgiving bad times of the past.
How do you know love is love? Must you find answers from the one above?
Or will the answers come to you .... In a way that is special and true....
asuhag
December 21st, 2007, 03:30 PM
Very nice Maniisha ... kya baat hai everyone on JL is a poet! I feel like a loser :o
bls31
December 21st, 2007, 04:29 PM
In this multitude of youth searching for the definition of love ;some experienced other still seeking the meaning ,here is an old man's take on the subject.
This what my love and late wife of 42 years had to say the day before she left for her heavenly abode: " I don't know what Love is but I can't live without you even for a moment" It summed all. BLS
shweta123
December 22nd, 2007, 12:48 PM
In this multitude of youth searching for the definition of love ;some experienced other still seeking the meaning ,here is an old man's take on the subject.
This what my love and late wife of 42 years had to say the day before she left for her heavenly abode: " I don't know what Love is but I can't live without you even for a moment" It summed all. BLS
Nice to hear :)
This brings to light yet another aspect of love, a person need not be philosophical or deeply understand the various realms of this term to be in love ! This expression is beyond explanation many a times. We cant actually say why is it so, why we are feeling this way, but we do feel the special warmth from within, a peculiar and unselfish desire which keeps us longing for that someone special.:)
shweta123
December 22nd, 2007, 12:53 PM
Shweta
first marry than love. it will not end even after death , be attached to your family. today love is not love its become bad intentions at later stage
Love doesnt only means the one which two so called 'lovers' do share amongst them, it is a much wider term. :)
Many people do interpret this term very loosely, but I am not talking about it in that sense.:)
skarmveer
December 22nd, 2007, 03:08 PM
Jaab kesi key dukhi honey ke aashanka say he hum dukhi ho jatey hai.
Jab keseekey lotney mein deree honey per man mey burey khayal aatey hai.
Jab keesi kee awaaj sunney ko kan taras jatey hai.
Jab keesi ko hum bahut seedha samjhtey hai.
Jab keesi key coll key intjaar mein hum bar-bar phone dekhtey hai.
Jab keesi ka har mausam mein apney say jayada khayal rakhtey hai.
To mujhey lagta hai ke wo payar hai.
Mujhey lagta hai ke Pahla payar maa ka, dusra wife ka or teesra beti ka hota hai uskey baad or koi payar aata hai.
Shaadi key 20 saal baad bhee agar mere wife 2-4 din key liyea aapney maikey jaaney ko kehtee hai to lagta hai ghar kaatney ko aayega.
shweta123
December 22nd, 2007, 04:08 PM
Jaab kesi key dukhi honey ke aashanka say he hum dukhi ho jatey hai.
Jab keseekey lotney mein deree honey per man mey burey khayal aatey hai.
Jab keesi kee awaaj sunney ko kan taras jatey hai.
Jab keesi ko hum bahut seedha samjhtey hai.
Jab keesi key coll key intjaar mein hum bar-bar phone dekhtey hai.
Jab keesi ka har mausam mein apney say jayada khayal rakhtey hai.
To mujhey lagta hai ke wo payar hai.
Mujhey lagta hai ke Pahla payar maa ka, dusra wife ka or teesra beti ka hota hai uskey baad or koi payar aata hai.
Shaadi key 20 saal baad bhee agar mere wife 2-4 din key liyea aapney maikey jaaney ko kehtee hai to lagta hai ghar kaatney ko aayega.
:):) So Sweet :):)
aashishmour
December 22nd, 2007, 04:19 PM
"To love is to suffer. To avoid suffering one must not love. But then one suffers from not loving. Therefore to love is to suffer, not to love is to suffer. To suffer is to suffer. To be happy is to love. To be happy then is to suffer. But suffering makes one unhappy. Therefore, to be unhappy one must love, or love to suffer, or suffer from too much happiness. I hope you're getting this down." - Woody Allen, Love and Death :D:D
Vivek Bhai ekdam badiya likha hai
asuhag
December 23rd, 2007, 12:38 AM
Don't know about love being an old wine but i do love wine & older the better! :p
sandeeprathee
December 23rd, 2007, 05:39 AM
Love resembles Beer more....... shuru main jor se ufaan aata hai, finally all settles down :)
ranjitjat
December 23rd, 2007, 04:23 PM
2.5 aksar prem ky
2 Atmao ka milan hi love-pyar-prem hae.
Jase Internet per 2 bhatki huye Atma
Bhoot- Bhootni takra jate han
Aur ho Jata hae Love
pher Atma mae kuch 2 hota hae
Dil mae feeling hoti hae
karky darsan hogi parsan Dekho love ka chala
Chat room mae diya dekhai mera Mohan murliaala
Merry X-MAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR 2008
to all kache- pakey lovers and learners and
LOVE GURU