Experiment !

[anilsinghd]

I did a small experiment so to say!

Sampling: Looked at all the threads of Social responsiblitiy section. Took only either the very low response ones ( creterion: only a couple of or one or none replies ) or very high ones ( generally more than 50 replies ).

I took things at face value so not going into details of what the thread was and waht the thread contained and waht are/were the replies!!!

Only the name of the thread is what I looked at and what I want all of you to look at!

Here is the list :
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High reply ones:

I Owe My Parents! (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21231)

why people say i love INDIA (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21391)

For all those educated-illiterate pigs who lack civic sense (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21585)

Open letter to all politicians...present occupant and future aspiring (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21694)

~~ Lovely lonliness ?? (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21540)

^..^ Pardaa hai pardaa ...... (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23350)

Low female to male ratio... a concern (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21327)


Jat Charity - Donation for kids (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21783)

Shudh Hindi......... (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23041)

HOUNOR KILLINGS IN INDIA AND JATs (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24248)

Let Us Talk About Agriculture (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22762)

Problems due to the 'Kawar' in UP and some other areas (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24974)

Let Us Stand Up And Be Counted (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24453)

Can U bring any good change as an individual in the society (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24495)

Kitni himmat ho gai haan ajj musalmaano ki....? (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25433)


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Low Reply ones :

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[/URL][URL="http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20725"]Save Female Foetus In India. (http://www.jatland.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=29&order=desc&page=7#)

Let's Develop a Knowledge Based Society (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20727)

Be social,natural & Be a human lover (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21512)

Elimination of Political Corruption in India (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21357)

Promoting Haryanvi Culture through Community-based International Tourism (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21027)

Jats working in Corporate world - A call for JJ (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21934)

Kheti Bachao---- Beti Bachao (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22173)

The Hymn of creation (rigveda) (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23658)


Haryanvi Sanskriti ... and its carriers (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23109)

Adaa (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22425)

Motivating the girl child (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24056)

prgress of community (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24054)

Vibha: For underprivileged children in India (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25393)

Read & reply: Humiliation of jat women wrestlers !! (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25100)

'Bare' Minimum (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24831)


ADAA home for special kids (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24680)

Time has come to repeat the history (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25605)

ADAA - donate used clothes for street children (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25565)
Farmers and Politics (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25448)


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What I wish to ask/analyse/discuss is that just looking at the face value i/e. the name of the threads ,

can we see a distinct kind of behaviour by us ?
is there any trend as to a particular kind of thread is being pampered most and other kind is overlooked?
Any particular characteristic of people that is being highlighted by this ?
Feel free to add more dimensions!

And to guess , this thread might end up in type 2 :)

[brahmtewatia]

I did a small experiment so to say!

Sampling: Looked at all the threads of Social responsiblitiy section. Took only either the very low response ones ( creterion: only a couple of or one or none replies ) or very high ones ( generally more than 50 replies ).

I took things at face value so not going into details of what the thread was and waht the thread contained and waht are/were the replies!!!

Only the name of the thread is what I looked at and what I want all of you to look at!

Here is the list :
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What I wish to ask/analyse/discuss is that just looking at the face value i/e. the name of the threads ,

can we see a distinct kind of behaviour by us ?
is there any trend as to a particular kind of thread is being pampered most and other kind is overlooked?
Any particular characteristic of people that is being highlighted by this ?

Feel free to add more dimensions!

And to guess , this thread might end up in type 2

gud experiment !!! :D
my answer :


can we see a distinct kind of behaviour by us ? YES
is there any trend as to a particular kind of thread is being pampered most and other kind is overlooked? YES

Any particular characteristic of people that is being highlighted by this ? YES

affirmatively yours,
brahm p tewatia ;)

[anilsinghd]

gud experiment !!! :D
my answer :


can we see a distinct kind of behaviour by us ? YES
is there any trend as to a particular kind of thread is being pampered most and other kind is overlooked? YES

Any particular characteristic of people that is being highlighted by this ? YES
yours truly

brahm p tewatia ;)



And can you elaborate please ?

Or do I need to request moderators to put this thread in a section where people can make some kind of "good" ( I deliberately kept that fuzzy) responses?

:)

[Samarkadian]

I did a small experiment so to say!

Sampling: Looked at all the threads of Social responsiblitiy section. Took only either the very low response ones ( creterion: only a couple of or one or none replies ) or very high ones ( generally more than 50 replies ).

I took things at face value so not going into details of what the thread was and waht the thread contained and waht are/were the replies!!!

Only the name of the thread is what I looked at and what I want all of you to look at!

==================================

What I wish to ask/analyse/discuss is that just looking at the face value i/e. the name of the threads ,

can we see a distinct kind of behaviour by us ?
is there any trend as to a particular kind of thread is being pampered most and other kind is overlooked?
Any particular characteristic of people that is being highlighted by this ?
Feel free to add more dimensions!

And to guess , this thread might end up in type 2 :)

Anil, lets try to answer your questions regarding the compartmentlization of threads which somehow reflects mentality of populace here.Let me start it with a small story going back to times of Kings and rulers where Sher Shah Suri was trying to capture Delhi and once he succeeded in disguising as a soldier in King's( Humanyu!? I'm not sure) army. Bairam Khan used to be the senapati.. King came for routine parade from soldiers along with Baram Khan.He was observing each and every soldier by looking in their eyes..Gradually he happened to look at a soldier who also looked back in King's eye and after that particular soldier managed to ran away before he was caught by Bairam Khan.That soldier was Sher Shah Suri which later defeated the Mughal King.

Significane of the above story is recognising something(person , event, or lets say thread in your argument) in first look.Yes!! it is very easy to analyse or precisly observe a particular thread and tentative replies and views of it.Its being discussed in an another thread that average populace is more compared to special taste or say high tasteed group.And it is very obvious that average populace would definitely be reactive towards ''sensational '' topics or threads and in this blow of average taste some posts/threads go unnoticed . I can diagone one reason which is number..Number of average populace is more which is hardly come of their zone unless there is some survival issue.Thaty someone said that,' World's humanity( meaning population of humans) has tolerance in abundance that it would forgive a moron or fool but would easily forget a genius'. So we can call it a nature's curse or gift.But that is what it is.

Now coming to your first question:-

can we see a distinct kind of behaviour by us ?
>Yes! we can provided we resolve to be distinct in overall behaviour and strict to what we practise and say.Regarding subject matters to thread sometime low response could mean that most of people who view it either are satisfied with the matter posted and do not think/feel any further need to contribute or they are plain dumb abt subject.

is there any trend as to a particular kind of thread is being pampered most and other kind is overlooked?

> As I explained above 'easy and sensational' threads would always be popular(hence more reviews and replies) but here popular should not be taken as quality.Again it would depend on quality thread author to guide it in interesting way to maintain both: a reasonable popularity along with average populace's replies in rhythm with quality subject.

Any particular characteristic of people that is being highlighted by this ?

>> I think I 've explained it.

Face value..yes matters it also a challange to present your matter in front of a mixed population.Jo dikhta hai wahi bikta hai..Depends how much you want to sell.

Now my question to you and all:-

What are the ways to conclude a thread with satisfactory outcome?
How it should be done and how many threads have touched this?
Personaly, I would rate such authors as good leaders in face value.

[choudharyneelam]

indeed very sensible obervation made by u....but the reasons above analysed can be due to many reasons:


easy and sensational one gets the highest priority
interest area also bends towards a particular thread
sometimes due to login and logout time gap many threads remain unread as everybody first looks for his/her individual answers
and many related reasons can be cited but like i said (sometimes due to login and logout time gap many threads remain unread as everybody first looks for his/her individual answers)....same i've to do as i've to take my dinner right now :)

[navingulia]

Man has to confess that controversy, spice, gossip attract him more than intellectualism. I confess that at times i am not able to hold back myself but i am glad that a majority of me finds intellectualism intoxicatingly appealing.

Every one criticises tv serials and IndiaTV but still they are the most watched.

It is near impossible for intellectualism to maintain its appeal in this world of brand building and aggressive marketing.

[positivelook]

It is near impossible for intellectualism to maintain its appeal in this world of brand building and aggressive marketing.

Hmm which is good in a way, becos if u are intellectual than u can do wonders in world.

Abhimanyu Phougat

[vicky84]

Yes it is obvious on the topics as first impression is the name of thread.

Depending upon iterest of people you might expect the number of hits and posts on that particular thread and indulgence is obvious.

Yes you will find some sort of a distinguishing quality.

Now i would like to discuss few things and would like to be precise on these..

Thread topic : The need to form JATSENA
Narender Singh Sangwan ji was coming with Be positive.Think Positive.Act positive attitude.

Responses:
Anil Dalal--> I am not sure whether you are accurate but you are precise.
Kidding , just ignore! (September 16th, 2008, 03:42 PM)

Anil Dalal -->hum bhi tahe dil se aapka swaagat karte hain.(September 19th, 2008, 11:06 PM )

Anil Dalal -->yeh to hamara saubhaagya hai Brahm Sir jo humein aap jaise mahanubhaav ki sangati ka mauka mila!!!.(September 22nd, 2008, 02:09 PM)

Anil Dalal -->Vijay : It is only aft er coming to JAtland that I have started having faith in God ! Now i realise how great is he to give me birth is this great , great caste JAT.
I am so so pleased , happy and what not! Days go by else I will just slap my boss tight across his face and say I am a JAT!
(September 26th, 2008, 02:50 PM)

Anil Dalal --> Are moderators blind or is it a policy to let these stupid things continue for ever ?(September 26th, 2008, 10:36 PM)

Anil Dalal -->for anyone who did not get the underlying sarcasm in this post of mine , let me say it :
The post was with "put" of sarcasm.
Thanks,(September 28th, 2008, 09:39 PM)

And So on......

Distinct kind of behaviour: Yes
indulgence : I am not sure with these responses.
distinguishing quality : Yes

Gentleman came up with an idea, and our responses are far away from the topic....
And finally thread has been closed as In more than 80 posts no giving back.Your contribution: 6 Responses and there are 11,626 members as of now might have some interest to contribute here and even if 50 out of them start responding like this means there are 300 responses.Moderators are expecting us to be precise.

[anilsinghd]

Yes it is obvious on the topics as first impression is the name of thread.

Depending upon iterest of people you might expect the number of hits and posts on that particular thread and indulgence is obvious.

Yes you will find some sort of a distinguishing quality.

Now i would like to discuss few things and would like to be precise on these..

Thread topic : The need to form JATSENA
Narender Singh Sangwan ji was coming with Be positive.Think Positive.Act positive attitude.

Responses:
Anil Dalal--> I am not sure whether you are accurate but you are precise.
Kidding , just ignore! (September 16th, 2008, 03:42 PM)

Anil Dalal -->hum bhi tahe dil se aapka swaagat karte hain.(September 19th, 2008, 11:06 PM )

Anil Dalal -->yeh to hamara saubhaagya hai Brahm Sir jo humein aap jaise mahanubhaav ki sangati ka mauka mila!!!.(September 22nd, 2008, 02:09 PM)

Anil Dalal -->Vijay : It is only aft er coming to JAtland that I have started having faith in God ! Now i realise how great is he to give me birth is this great , great caste JAT.
I am so so pleased , happy and what not! Days go by else I will just slap my boss tight across his face and say I am a JAT!
(September 26th, 2008, 02:50 PM)

Anil Dalal --> Are moderators blind or is it a policy to let these stupid things continue for ever ?(September 26th, 2008, 10:36 PM)

Anil Dalal -->for anyone who did not get the underlying sarcasm in this post of mine , let me say it :
The post was with "put" of sarcasm.
Thanks,(September 28th, 2008, 09:39 PM)

And So on......

Distinct kind of behaviour: Yes
indulgence : I am not sure with these responses.
distinguishing quality : Yes

Gentleman came up with an idea, and our responses are far away from the topic....
And finally thread has been closed as In more than 80 posts no giving back.Your contribution: 6 Responses and there are 11,626 members as of now might have some interest to contribute here and even if 50 out of them start responding like this means there are 300 responses.Moderators are expecting us to be precise.

Hi Atish , thanks for the analysis . I am not sure if we would really want to discuss a case by case scenario here ! If you so wish we can discuss about this thread by getting it unloacked from the moderators!

And that said , I said in my first post on the thread that I took things on face value , not the contents , so it would be unjustice to the thread if we go deep in the contents of the threads for the reasons!Ofcourse we can do that once we finish up the initial discussion of just taking into consideration the face value!

What say ?

[mittu]

Most probably the first survey on a "caste" :rolleyes:
still the difference in both lists is not as serious as INDIA TV(news channel) vs DD NEWS(actually a news channel), so no worries till now!!!
No prizes for guessing that in which list this thread will be indexed. :p



Yes it is obvious on the topics as first impression is the name of thread.

Depending upon iterest of people you might expect the number of hits and posts on that particular thread and indulgence is obvious.


dude!! google "sarcasm"

NOTE: if somehow, someone felt offended, please sulk in private, n treat this as my most humble apology.

[vicky84]

Dear Anil

I found it hard to analyze on the basis of looking at the face value to answer which thread is being pampered most and other is overlooked. And same with characteristic of people that is being highlighted by this. I would like to emphasize on the same example as is on my last post. With just looking at the number of responses on a particular thread how would i imagine and how would i be able to give you the answer of indulgence and distinguishing quality.
I found you a responsible person as you have started this thread and that’s why i took your example and tried to work on term 'Analyze'.

Exercising on each and every response on this site is a nightmare and your idea on just looking at numbers does make a sense but the answers we want are hard to find i suppose.Might be some injustice somewhere and somehow.

As you are coming with a good idea on this thread, i just tried to add some dimensions and dont want to make a cranky situation here.

Cheers

[anilsinghd]

Instead of quoting everyone and then replying let me try and summarize without that.

Ofcourse makes more difficult for people to reply but interested "enough" will do it anyways ! :)


I liked the Samar's idea that number of post has nothing to do with quality but i would love to hear more on why such a phenomenon is apparent even on a section like social responsibility ( I chose this section for a reason).

Neelam's point is very valid becasue i have seen people behaving as patrons and promoters of a particular thread more often than not their own! Also depending on the depth at which a paticular thread is there , one might tend to miss the lower ones! So it would be a good idea to remove thread which have not attracted enough response and put them back and keep the ones who can still invite discussions/replies afloat.


I did not get Navin when he said it's impossible for intellectualism to maintain its appeal , i guess it simply does not have to! Intellectuals had and will always appeal , ofcourse in a negative way for those who dont fall in that league! No Brand / Marketing can replace the novel and genuine ideas!


Amit's comments were incomprehendible for me , and for sure it was not a survey on a caste! Ohh , I am on Jatland , i remember , but I was just trying to dive into how people behave at large! If we can have some solid conclusions , am pretty sure we will not run into difficulties while generalising them!


Coming to Atish , well mate I agree to some extent that one has to dig deep if really finding how and why of the response phenomenon. My take as reiterated in the previous post of mine was to try and generate some ideas by just looking at what the thread says(hypothesising that the thread went in direction similar to what the title says ) on why did(did not) people resonded!



Probably it is time when I put forwad my crude observations for inviting criticism/acknowledgement of the participants here!
Let me call the high response category as Category H and the low response as category L.

category H : to me contains more of the abstract topics , inviting discussions , opinions! More philosophical ones ? may be!
Which can be opined on for hours , perhaps ages!
A sense of "Discuss" types!

category L : some of them have a bit of active , solution specific tinge in their head lines :: " SAVE " , "LET's DEVELOP " , "BE" , "PROMOTING", "CALL" are some of the words used in this category!
JJ/ADAA ( other than the legacy JJ thread ) come under this category (I hope Navin would not mind taking the names of these organisations , apologies in any case). A Sense of " DOER " types!

So does that mean we are more talker than doer ?


Happy if people can counter argue or if anyone wants to substantiate!


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Atish ,

On that particular thread you referred , the title was instigating to say the least , even if it was with a "B+" attitude as you said , it sounded more like a clarion call. ( for what ? i don't know! ).
Then for me it was soudning with a lot of desperation ( words like need of hour don't help) , prudence was rampant ( Jat is next to god ?? ). I hate this rhetoric of saying on one hand we are so good , so much so .. bla bla and on other we are on the verge of extinction? Neither is true of course!

And i do not understand what you mean by indulgence and when saying "moderators expecting us to be precise"?

I am strictly against letting any kind of extreme ideas to be propogated on the forum and always with moderators on taking stern actions on the people who do the same!
Hope that helps!

[devdahiya]

Every individual on this earth is unique and has so different taste.Impossible to decide as to why a thing happens this way or that way.....The magnitude of this dimension is beyond the possibility of a accurate crux to be arrived at(not withstanding the tools used to do so).........and hence futility too can not be defined and measured.Lets respect the view points.

[vicky84]

Dear Anil

I am not sure how you are hypothesising that the thread went in direction similar to what the title says and why someone responded or not.But if you look at your response on Thread topic : The need to form JATSENA, i found half of your responses had nothing to do with the topic of thread.On the rest i found your concern with the people responded but again that was not precisely to the topic of thread.And if we start doing like this we may end up with x number of responses with no giving back.That means we need to be precise on whether there is any concern with thread topic.And with analysis on face values of threads i am not sure we can get what we are trying to. That is a patient attention to thread(indulgence) .

Cheers