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jitendershooda
November 3rd, 2008, 05:54 AM
A bunch of new blood and thoughtful members have been raising their voices for the last few months for some kind of participation or some kind of task sharing here on JL. And a result of this is the new Editorial section.

I got an Idea and wish to share with you all. Please provide your views and if found good then let us do it.

I propose to make several groups.
1) Judges - They will be ranking the efforts out of the teams. Encourage them and provide their valuable thoughts and feedbacks time to time. Also they will maintain decorum and their actions will be acceptable to all of the teams with no regrets and counter attacks.
Some names I suggest for this ...
Col. Tewatia, Dev Dahiya ji, Dnd Ji, Col. Jagmohan, Harvinder Malik, Satyeshwar, BLS ji, Poonam, Shailendra hooda, virender
narwal, Navin Gulia etc.

2) Teams
These will keep changing and judges will keep shuffling the members and teams after each events.

We can start with few teams say 5 initially. And will keep discussing after each event and judges will decide who will be the next team leaders and members.

Say to start with have the following five teams under
a) Anil Dalal
b) Samar Kadian
c) Maniisha
d) Shweta Dhaka
e) Jitender Takhar

They can pick 4/5 members each and publish their names.
Currently I am having a topic in mind which can be given to them to come up with presentations, materials and other nice material related to that topic. After a complete study and submission of the material. Judges can rate them. Here either that team will gain a sticy thread in their appreciation for a month with names of all the members and contribution. "Members of the Month".

Now the material can be used by Adaa or any other NGO or person who is willing to use that material.

In this way we will be having some nice presentations, posters, cartoons (Shail types) and material. Also there will be some good positive contributions and energies floating here on JL.

1) First step is to get the responses.Judges and Team leaders named can come up and write to me visitor message if they are willing to take this responsibility or not for the time being due to some issues.
2) I will then publish their names here and a judge Panel will be formed. Also the team leaders who accepted will also find their names here.
3) Now here I would like to ask Satyeshwar if any group mailid can be there for this judge panel where the teams can send mails to communicate. Or it will be better to communicate on the thread only.
4) Judges will talk to each other say they can fix dates for the replies. Each team lead will be the channel between the judges and team members. Judges will decide dates for the presentations/material to be submitted.
5) Judges will announce the ranks. Also share the material by each team.
6) The material can be clubbed and used as it is by the members/ngo/children for the welfare.

Please provide your views and suggestions.

I am sure we all are responsible enough to take it forward without any controvercy.

Anjalis
November 3rd, 2008, 09:45 AM
A bunch of new blood and thoughtful members have been raising their voices for the last few months for some kind of participation or some kind of task sharing here on JL. And a result of this is the new Editorial section.

I got an Idea and wish to share with you all. Please provide your views and if found good then let us do it.


I am sure we all are responsible enough to take it forward without any controvercy.

Dear Sir,

Great idea!!!!

delhione
November 3rd, 2008, 10:33 AM
and i will be the Chairman.

cooljat
November 3rd, 2008, 01:18 PM
Bhai Hooda, count me in . :)
.

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choudharyneelam
November 3rd, 2008, 07:50 PM
If all the activities taking place here only, then I'm also willing to participate :)

rajivsp
November 3rd, 2008, 11:37 PM
I propose to make several groups.
1) Judges - They will be ranking the efforts out of the teams. Encourage them and provide their valuable thoughts and feedbacks time to time. Also they will maintain decorum and their actions will be acceptable to all of the teams with no regrets and counter attacks.
Some names I suggest for this ...
Col. Tewatia, Dev Dahiya ji, Dnd Ji, Col. Jagmohan, Harvinder Malik, Satyeshwar, BLS ji, Poonam, Shailendra hooda, virender
narwal, Navin Gulia etc.

The statement indicates towards an Autocratic System, giving Absolute power to few and withdrawing power of speech to many.

In my opinion JL is a democratic platform and everybody has equal right to raise his voice unless you are going to make it XYZ Pvt. Ltd. And all members will be warned if there is any counter attacks against these Judges, they will be expelled.

anilsinghd
November 4th, 2008, 02:31 AM
The statement indicates towards an Autocratic System, giving Absolute power to few and withdrawing power of speech to many.

In my opinion JL is a democratic platform and everybody has equal right to raise his voice unless you are going to make it XYZ Pvt. Ltd. And all members will be warned if there is any counter attacks against these Judges, they will be expelled.


Not to start any controversy , but on a big system , there is no absolute democracy ( like Manmohan is PM , tomorrow if he decided to fire you , he can , right ? ) . But he is chosen democratically!

Now the same goes with these judges. I am sure even if you want to have polls to decide them , the suggestion of Jitender will make it. So accepting the majority decision is what is democracy to me on Jatland.


I whole heartedly apprecaite Jitender's suggestions for the names. :)

anilsinghd
November 4th, 2008, 02:40 AM
A bunch of new blood and thoughtful members have been raising their voices for the last few months for some kind of participation or some kind of task sharing here on JL. And a result of this is the new Editorial section.

I got an Idea and wish to share with you all. Please provide your views and if found good then let us do it.

I propose to make several groups.
1) Judges - They will be ranking the efforts out of the teams. Encourage them and provide their valuable thoughts and feedbacks time to time. Also they will maintain decorum and their actions will be acceptable to all of the teams with no regrets and counter attacks.
Some names I suggest for this ...
Col. Tewatia, Dev Dahiya ji, Dnd Ji, Col. Jagmohan, Harvinder Malik, Satyeshwar, BLS ji, Poonam, Shailendra hooda, virender
narwal, Navin Gulia etc.

2) Teams
These will keep changing and judges will keep shuffling the members and teams after each events.

We can start with few teams say 5 initially. And will keep discussing after each event and judges will decide who will be the next team leaders and members.

Say to start with have the following five teams under
a) Anil Dalal
b) Samar Kadian
c) Maniisha
d) Shweta Dhaka
e) Jitender Takhar

They can pick 4/5 members each and publish their names.
Currently I am having a topic in mind which can be given to them to come up with presentations, materials and other nice material related to that topic. After a complete study and submission of the material. Judges can rate them. Here either that team will gain a sticy thread in their appreciation for a month with names of all the members and contribution. "Members of the Month".

Now the material can be used by Adaa or any other NGO or person who is willing to use that material.

In this way we will be having some nice presentations, posters, cartoons (Shail types) and material. Also there will be some good positive contributions and energies floating here on JL.

1) First step is to get the responses.Judges and Team leaders named can come up and write to me visitor message if they are willing to take this responsibility or not for the time being due to some issues.
2) I will then publish their names here and a judge Panel will be formed. Also the team leaders who accepted will also find their names here.
3) Now here I would like to ask Satyeshwar if any group mailid can be there for this judge panel where the teams can send mails to communicate. Or it will be better to communicate on the thread only.
4) Judges will talk to each other say they can fix dates for the replies. Each team lead will be the channel between the judges and team members. Judges will decide dates for the presentations/material to be submitted.
5) Judges will announce the ranks. Also share the material by each team.
6) The material can be clubbed and used as it is by the members/ngo/children for the welfare.

Please provide your views and suggestions.

I am sure we all are responsible enough to take it forward without any controvercy.


Dekh Jit bhai , joot baaj jaaga karda ..... :D Copy paste ki naa rakhi sai ....
not taking any credit away from you ( and also not away from mine ;)) , i have been crying over this same rhetoric for at least a few months now.


I am totally up for such kind of a thing. The activities can be constrained for astart and then can range upto any thing including some real concrete ground work , later on this , i will try to show things by examples rather than talking. :)

What I want is that all moderators , senior members , team leads and tema members to pursue this with all the energy.

Keeping your structure , I am suggesting only 3 teams. Club some people together ! Ofcourse if we gather success we can always break the teams , I propose the following :

1) Samar and Jit

2) Maniisha and Nysa ( I could not keep them separate , else bahut maarti mere ko :p )

3) My team is full : Anil Dalal, Vijay Singh , Shweta Dhaka, Devender Kumar, Sumit Sehrawat, Braham Tewatia. :D ( Am sure this one is going to be a deadly combo :p ).

Ofcourse I chose all the team members of mine without any consent , please feel free to drop out if you so wish :)



Am excited about it ! :D

rajivsp
November 4th, 2008, 04:17 AM
( like Manmohan is PM , tomorrow if he decided to fire you , he can , right ? ) :)
Are you sure?????? He can fire me........and there is no counter attack from my side?? forget the effect of my attack, but possibility is there in a democratic system.

PM just a representative and Parliament represents the whole nation each and every individual. PM is answerable for his each action and anyone can raise his voice against him if he is not right ( if system is big, there are ways to do that).

The term absolute democracy, I don't think exists. Its different how effective is our democratic system.

Thoughtful, senior and respected members are supposed to perform their duties without having the titles. And what are their duties...not required to explain here.

Each thread starts with a topic and anybody express his views, then whats the use of giving topic specifically to a team, And if it is given to a specific team of 4-5 members then there is no choice for other members to share/express their views on that particular topic????????? is it fair...

Now judges will going to decide who is the next team leader for a particular topic rather than the master/specialist in that must be the team leader, Who can give right direction to the thread.

Pls don't take it as controversy, what I think I expresses.

satyeshwar
November 4th, 2008, 07:37 AM
I would like to absolve myself from the judges responsibility or it may be construed as favoritism by a moderator.

Nishantrathi82
November 4th, 2008, 09:00 AM
Idea is good but what i think lets decide the topic first then team, so that there will not any contradiction in team itself.

dkumars
November 4th, 2008, 12:37 PM
Bhai Jitender, indeed a gud start with a productive idea and count me in for any kinda activity. Also, i am comfortable with any team.

But my fear is how much practical this idea is and that too on JL. Anyway, lets give it a shot, may be it will prove that we jats are changed(imbibed something gud):)

Count me in and i am happy with team leads, team members and judges :)

brahmtewatia
November 4th, 2008, 12:49 PM
i have been the most irresponsible member at JATland (my painted record says so ;);))

the idea floated by jitender bhai is very ambitious. i am glad to see the excitement in anil nd other worthy members, but at the same time the concerns raised by bhai rajeev(ji) singh(ji) paweria(ji) (plus another extra bonus "ji" :p) are very genuine and should be appreciated.

my take : "जानी हमें भी जज वज बनाओ तो हम भी खेलेंगे... ये मेंबर शेम्बेर बनना हमारी फितरत में नहीं, और ना ही हम इसके लायक हैं." (refer my 1st line on the post) :D:D:D

p.s. : i solemnly declare, if granted this opportunity (my hands on geeta :p <<< pls. note krishanji waali geeta, koi aur nahin) i will serve this idea with utmost dedication and sincerity without any prejudice, bias or ill feeling towards any worthy member. ;););)

dkumars
November 4th, 2008, 01:05 PM
i have been the most irresponsible member at JATland (my painted record says so ;);))

the idea floated by jitender bhai is very ambitious. i am glad to see the excitement in anil nd other worthy members, but at the same time the concerns raised by bhai rajeev(ji) singh(ji) paweria(ji) (plus another extra bonus "ji" :p) are very genuine and should be appreciated.

my take : "जानी हमें भी जज वज बनाओ तो हम भी खेलेंगे... ये मेंबर शेम्बेर बनना हमारी फितरत में नहीं, और ना ही हम इसके लायक हैं." (refer my 1st line on the post) :D:D:D

p.s. : i solemnly declare, if granted this opportunity (my hands on geeta :p <<< pls. note krishanji waali geeta, koi aur nahin) i will serve this idea with utmost dedication and sincerity without any prejudice, bias or ill feeling towards any worthy member. ;););)



I also suggest Mr. Brahm ji as one of the judges. His knowledge is vast on many subjects as well as i find his replies unbiased may be little funny sometimes but that just for a break. He has that capability to judge and see all with same sight. Instead of Sateyshwar(as he said it may give rise to controvercies) we can have Mr Brahm as judge.
Aot say guys ?

shweta123
November 4th, 2008, 01:22 PM
Idea is good but what i think lets decide the topic first then team, so that there will not any contradiction in team itself.
Agreed !

The idea proposed by Jitender bhai is indeed nice & creative, but I feel that topic must be given before hand. An illustrative example of a dummy topic and what all is expected from the members can also be given so as to facilitate the people out here to develop a framework about what this is all about.

Moreover, there can be a sort of mixed judging. Say, 40% marks will be alloted by the prospective judges and the rest 60% marks can be given by all the members of Jatland through a poll. This will ensure more transparency and a mixed result.

avesh
November 4th, 2008, 02:17 PM
Hooda bhai idea to apka ek dum mast hai lakin judges me apne ek senior most admi ka naam to likha hi nahi. Rakesh sangwan (Raka) I am sure raka bhai saab can handle this position very well. :rock

anilsinghd
November 4th, 2008, 03:53 PM
The statement indicates towards an Autocratic System, giving Absolute power to few and withdrawing power of speech to many.

In my opinion JL is a democratic platform and everybody has equal right to raise his voice unless you are going to make it XYZ Pvt. Ltd. And all members will be warned if there is any counter attacks against these Judges, they will be expelled.



Thoughtful, senior and respected members are supposed to perform their duties without having the titles. And what are their duties...not required to explain here.


That is contradictory to what you said in the earlie post of yours as quoted above. And whatever idea of democracy you have , i am pretty sure more than that would be there if any of the members quoted by Jitender is put to vote. :) And lets not go in what is "supposed" to. No process can ensure an absolute democracy here , so there aint any democracy unless yu believe in some people , unless you have faith and your first statements dont reflect any kind of faith even in the senior members.

Each thread starts with a topic and anybody express his views, then whats the use of giving topic specifically to a team, And if it is given to a specific team of 4-5 members then there is no choice for other members to share/express their views on that particular topic????????? is it fair...


This makes me so very sad , trust me it does. It really asks me to go and bang my head on the wall literally. I am starting to internalise what Satinder had to say about me in an "fun" thread :( Nowhere Jitender mentioned to start threads and nly let these team members to express. Totally makes me believe that people cannot go beyond the notion of Jatland being an online forum where you have threads and you can put your views in writing , or a Chaupal where you can go and chat.
What Jitender is saying , or lets better put it , what i understood was of an initiative by which the energy , creativity of Jatland can be utilised for some good causes. The topics can range on vast variety of subjects and can be utilised by NGOs or others and also can be presented to audience in general. This should be the first step towards makeing JL venture in reality.

Now judges will going to decide who is the next team leader for a particular topic rather than the master/specialist in that must be the team leader, Who can give right direction to the thread.

No body stopped you from coming out with your ideas/presentations or any other material and Jitender bhai please have a wild card entry for people who believe that the team members are not the "right" people to give directions to that topic!

Pls don't take it as controversy, what I think I expresses.


This was another jolt to my confidence of thinking of some better things from the JL. People who should take responsibilities shy away to prevent themselves from controversies ( they are scared beforehand). Then there are those who want to be judges rather than team members. Then there are those who are a bit concerned , and so are reserved. And then there are those to whom there cannot be anything beyond a forum of threads and chatrooms.

I am sorry for my excitement.

Let me also put the model reply to what ( to me orginally) is a great idea:



Model reply:
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Good initiatve Jitender Bhai.

Please count me in :)

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mukeshkumar007
November 4th, 2008, 04:21 PM
A solid response to doubts can be given by doing something really constructive instead of writing long-long posts which makes no sense instead of fuelling the controversy further.

brahmtewatia
November 4th, 2008, 04:31 PM
This was another jolt to my confidence of thinking of some better things from the JL. People who should take responsibilities shy away to prevent themselves from controversies ( they are scared beforehand). Then there are those who want to be judges rather than team members. Then there are those who are a bit concerned , and so are reserved. And then there are those to whom there cannot be anything beyond a forum of threads and chatrooms.

different ppl think in different ways ;) http://www.jatland.com/forums/showpost.php?p=170912&postcount=55

as said earlier, the idea indeed is vry gud nd highly ambitious. i hope it takes shape... watever is the outcome, pls do count me in.

choudharyneelam
November 4th, 2008, 07:44 PM
Shweta suggested another good idea.....though the percentage ratio can be altered. So, I'm just waiting in which team I fit to share my little ideas/opinions....just the leader need to guide me what way to move to put the best...and then, I'll try my best....so always there, untill and unless I've some very important work at home :)

sumitsehrawat
November 4th, 2008, 09:49 PM
Anil, your enthusiasm is very much needed here so please don't be sorry of or on anything and to anyone. You have very good 'Task Initiation" skills. Getting started on something comes easy to you, with an action-orientation and propensity to get the job going without any undue delay. Very few people have such skills. It's very good. Maintain that.

I am sorry for my excitement.

sumitsehrawat
November 4th, 2008, 09:53 PM
Regarding my participation, unfortunately I would not be able to chip-in for a while after Nov22 (purely personal reason) and so of two minds if to press my presence. Possibly, my sabbatical! Till then, I would love to contribute towards our team's task.

rajivsp
November 5th, 2008, 01:28 AM
Lets start with Model reply:
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Good initiatve Jitender Bhai.

Please count me in :)

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This makes me so very sad , trust me it does. It really asks me to go and bang my head on the wall literally.

cool.... cool..... cool....... my dear friend
you are a born leader and going to become a great teacher. This type of excitement doesn't suit you......

A silly statement makes you to bang your head on the wall???? why???? pls dont expect all your followers and pupils will be brilliant like you.
This world is full of fools. And every time you can not answer everybody. "A fool may ask more question in an hour than a wise man can answer in seven years."

Now I have given my views and if these are useful to make the original idea better then it is good to consider otherwise just discard it. And there is no controversy. If you are going to satisfy each and everybody then there will be only arguments nothing else.........(Muft advice - i know u dont need/want it, still.... )

No doubt Mr. Jitender got a very brilliant Idea.

Now please be HAPPY.

ps: u quote my msg, even if i want to delete it, it will be there

dkumars
November 5th, 2008, 12:34 PM
Bhai Jittu kitt gaya .. shuru toh karo yo idea ibb .. waise mein poori tarah samjh nahi paya hoon ki karna kya kya hai aur kis type ki presentation rahegi.

jitendershooda
November 5th, 2008, 04:57 PM
Thanks all for your replies.

:) Bhaiyo will be replying in detail later on. For this time I wish to just share my mind with you about this thread. I have not at all thought of this to be monolithic. Its flexible and its all you members who will join this who will decide and take it to some level, if you want to.

Agar ye safal ho to bhi aacha aur agar na ho to bhi aacha ... atleast apne dimag ke kitanu to shant kare manney :)

Perhaps the suggestion from Anil seems to be good to merge the teams. Rest of two teamLeaders please choose your members too. This activity should give enough time for the event. As mentioned by Sumit that each would be having different constraints.

Regarding topic. I feel that this also is flexible if majority of you find it irrelevent. You can decide the topic.

I was thinking of the issues we have in our society and how we can address them. I though of the general issues that are affecting all the citizens of a country rather whole earth. Like ... Polythene issue.

I was thinking that Navin Bhai and others through JJ/ADAA/their respective organisations can deliver something related to this. Even if they will be making their home free of these issues then also it would be a great help. We know that each and every person is concerned with the changing environment these days. So better to target this first. All types of people will be accepting us for this.

What we can do?

1) We can first change our practices in our houses first.
2) We will be addressing the same in our organisations also. Like I/We are doing in ours. Will share this later on.
3) We as an NGO like JJ/ADAA can visit all the schools in our city to address the students and I feel that these are the building blocks of future society and the best person to make understand of the issues, needs and how they can contibute.

I thought of first pick, "SAY NO TO - POLYTHENE" compaign. As it is better to address issues one by one.

Now to do this we will be requiring n number of things. Like

1) What is Polythene?
2) What harm they do to the environment?
3) What are the options available?
4) Where we use these un-necessarily in our daily lives?
5) How we can cut-off the un-necessary uses?
6) What practices we can adopt in schools and organisations to avoid their usage?
7) What we can do to attract the shop-keepers/big stores to promote the other means of carriage rather than polythenes?
8 How we will be benefitted of this in future?

So for all these if there would be good material with us, then everybody who wants to go for presentation in any school, group of people, shop-keepers, organisations etc. can put their stand in a better way. Every organisation these days is going 'GREEN'. So you can easily contribute in their efforts too.

And now whats benefit doing it in group here on JL? I feel that this can be done individually too but with different inputs of intellects from different fields, it would be great output. Some body artistic like Shailender bhai would provide good Cartoons or paintings to catch students. Or somebody from bio side will provide good chemical or technical details of the harm caused and who to address it. Some with good presentation skills will provide a nice presentation of these. One with good hand in design will do ultimate flash or other presentation.

So I request the team leaders to choose a variety of persons from different fields and skills. Take your own times and pick people in your teams so that your team can provide the best.

So my idea was this. I thought of going with it good being less complicated and to set the things up for further more if things goes well.

Its ours and not mine. Come up with your views and stick to one in a day or two regarding the topic. Then take a week or ten days to pick the teams. In the meantime we can decide the judges or other things. Let us have the output as a new years gift or 26 Jan. All is flexible for the time being. The need is of healthy mindset and cooperation.

anilsinghd
November 5th, 2008, 05:27 PM
My team is full : Anil Dalal, Vijay Singh , Shweta Dhaka, Devender Kumar, Sumit Sehrawat, Braham Tewatia. :D ( Am sure this one is going to be a deadly combo :p ).

Ofcourse I chose all the team members of mine without any consent , please feel free to drop out if you so wish :)



I still stand with what i wrote. Jitender please settle the deadlines of any submission and sort out other details.

Meanwhile i owe a personal reply from the members mentioned in my quoted post whether they want to do this together with me or not :)

Thanks,
Anil

dkumars
November 5th, 2008, 05:31 PM
I still stand with what i wrote. Jitender please settle the deadlines of any submission and sort out other details.

Meanwhile i owe a personal reply from the members mentioned in my quoted post whether they want to do this together with me or not :)

Thanks,
Anil


Thumbs up dude .. move on ... I am in.

anilsinghd
November 5th, 2008, 06:09 PM
Thumbs up dude .. move on ... I am in.

And as cleared with Shweta , i am in her team rather she in mine :p :D Jokes apart , we three ( myself , you and Shweta are in ) , Sumit as well.

Just need Brahm to clarify some bhram :p :D

dkumars
November 5th, 2008, 06:16 PM
And as cleared with Shweta , i am in her team rather she in mine :p :D Jokes apart , we three ( myself , you and Shweta are in ) , Sumit as well.

Just need Brahm to clarify some bhram :p :D


Doesnt matter who is in whose team. Its the outcome that matters, whoever leads. I am again ok if Shweta or Sumit or Brahm ji leads. :)

brahmtewatia
November 5th, 2008, 06:20 PM
Doesnt matter who is in whose team. Its the outcome that matters, whoever leads. I am again ok if Shweta or Sumit or Brahm ji leads. :)
same here, if the outcome is constructive... i'm all for it :)

anilsinghd
November 5th, 2008, 06:58 PM
same here, if the outcome is constructive... i'm all for it :)

Cool , "OUR" team is all up for it. We will start working. :)

minichaudhary
November 5th, 2008, 11:40 PM
Appreciable Intiative on JL !!!!
I hope that this would be an excellent plateform for exchanging creative and inovative ideas ...
And I am 'UP' for this...!

poonamchaudhary
November 6th, 2008, 10:15 AM
If there is scope for new members i too will like to participate in this wonderful initiative.

jitendershooda
November 6th, 2008, 04:46 PM
1) Samar and Jit

2) Maniisha and Nysa ( I could not keep them separate , else bahut maarti mere ko :p )

3) My team is full : Anil Dalal, Vijay Singh , Shweta Dhaka, Devender Kumar, Sumit Sehrawat, Braham Tewatia. :D ( Am sure this one is going to be a deadly combo :p ).



Friends, now that we came upon three teams after reduction. Anil has come up with his teams count and names.

Could the rest two team leaders (Jit/Samar and Maniisha/Nysa) please come up with their teams too. Let us do this by the coming Wednesday EOD IST i.e. 12/11/08.

Thanks for the members who come forward for this. Team Leader please consider names who has come forward on this thread.

anilsinghd
November 6th, 2008, 04:47 PM
Appreciable Intiative on JL !!!!
I hope that this would be an excellent plateform for exchanging creative and inovative ideas ...
And I am 'UP' for this...!


If there is scope for new members i too will like to participate in this wonderful initiative.

Please anyone who too wishes to pitch in , please feel free to join any of the three teams mentioned and if we have more in numbers , we might decide to split it up with new team leads! :)

Thanks!

jitendershooda
November 7th, 2008, 03:54 PM
No replies from rest of the two teams?

I have dropped a visitor message for Jitender Takhar to choose his team.
Anil bhai ya kise aur ne Maniisha/Nysa dikhein to bera pahuchaiyo :).

rameshlakra
November 7th, 2008, 08:43 PM
Jitender Bhai,

An excellent idea, But the implementation has to chalked out in more clear terms. I am afraid i am not been able to spare much time on JL these days as i am in mumbai and sailing a lot. I wish i could be part of this and contribute in anyway. Irrespective of limited availability, i will try my best.
Frankly speaking if u could bring out more clearity in terms of "goal" of the whole exercise, it would be much better to achieve the same.

Regards,

anilsinghd
November 7th, 2008, 10:12 PM
No replies from rest of the two teams?

I have dropped a visitor message for Jitender Takhar to choose his team.
Anil bhai ya kise aur ne Maniisha/Nysa dikhein to bera pahuchaiyo :).


Bhai re donouaan tai bol di sai at chat ! :)

Maniisha
November 8th, 2008, 01:16 AM
I would like to make my contribution to this cause ... As I am pretty occupied with something personal these days and hence I don't think I will be able to do justice. I am sorry. Since the idea looks very exciting and constructive .. :)
Prashant Hooda n team will tke over it... :):)

brahmtewatia
November 8th, 2008, 04:20 PM
can i suggest few names who can be very good group leaders/members (its my observation... i may be wrong)

1. neelam chaudhary
2. poonam chaudhary (khokhar) (very promising)
3. bhavana singh
4. meenakhi chaudhary

1. sumeet malik (gem)
2. sunil kadian (untapped)
3. vijay singh
4. Sanjeev nandal (untapped)
5. satinder goyat
6. phool kumar (untapped)
7. rajeev(ji) singh(ji) paweria(ji)
8. prashant nauhaar
9. prashaant hooda (already listed in abv post)
10. mukesh samota
11. nishant rathi
12. pradeep beniwal
13. ... is also there (cant recollect as of now)
14. ... is also there (cant recollect as of now)
15. ... is also there (cant recollect as of now)

there are other worthy and senior member wch i am not listing, cos of their less active participation at JL.

************************************************** **********
jitender bhai any news from judges? pls. update?

skarmveer
November 8th, 2008, 05:28 PM
Why you are not a team leader or active particpent in all this good work.
If I am not misteken you are only a proposer, its not good.

I am also ready to do somthing if required for Social causes specially for less fortunate people of our society, Handicapeds etc..

cooljat
November 8th, 2008, 07:03 PM
Bhai Jitu,

Ram Ram

Bhai, will announce my team members by Monday, right now am outta station :)



No replies from rest of the two teams?

I have dropped a visitor message for Jitender Takhar to choose his team.
Anil bhai ya kise aur ne Maniisha/Nysa dikhein to bera pahuchaiyo :).

anilsinghd
November 8th, 2008, 07:12 PM
Nice to see people gearing up . All please club yourself in some team or other. :)

sumeetmalik
November 9th, 2008, 06:01 PM
Its great to see Jats getting together to construct something worthwhile. I would like to join in but these days I am working on something similar. Now ideally I wouldn't be writing the details but I think there are many energetic Jats here who might find this also interesting.

Its called beingyogi.com and its blog will be operational in a few days.

The idea is to start conversation (virtual first) about Yoga and alternative lifestyles. Yoga as we know has not just the physical aspect to it. Being in the West for a couple of years has shown me an opportunity for a field that we from Jatland know so well yet fail to capitalize on.

Since its an initiative by the community, the community will also get back from it.

It also, I think has a decent revenue model although being a Microbrand in its infancy, it will take a year to get some money in.

If any of you are interested in knowing more about it and getting involved, please connect with me. It is a great project to be involved in for someone who belives in Yoga Philosophy (Karma, Gyana, Bhakti, Raja) and social enterpreneurship.

Samarkadian
November 10th, 2008, 09:42 AM
My Team for this discussion:

1. Poonam Khokhar

2. Mini Chaudhary

3. Neelam Chaudhary

4. Samar Singh

Nishantrathi82
November 10th, 2008, 11:29 AM
can i suggest few names who can be very good group leaders/members (its my observation... i may be wrong)

1. neelam chaudhary
2. poonam chaudhary (khokhar) (very promising)
3. bhavana singh
4. meenakhi chaudhary

1. sumeet malik (gem)
2. sunil kadian (untapped)
3. vijay singh
4. Sanjeev nandal (untapped)
5. satinder goyat
6. phool kumar (untapped)
7. rajeev(ji) singh(ji) paweria(ji)
8. prashant nauhaar
9. prashaant hooda (already listed in abv post)
10. mukesh samota
11. nishant rathi
12. pradeep beniwal
13. ... is also there (cant recollect as of now)
14. ... is also there (cant recollect as of now)
15. ... is also there (cant recollect as of now)

there are other worthy and senior member wch i am not listing, cos of their less active participation at JL.

************************************************** **********
jitender bhai any news from judges? pls. update?

Please count me IN :)

sachinb
November 10th, 2008, 12:32 PM
Due to time constraints I will not be able to accept any responsibility of becoming a Judge:D:rock,,,,,,

,,,,,Vaise jo bhai ya behan Judge banaaye jaayenge,,,unko free internet connection with unlimited usage milna chaahiye:rock

Team Leads ko 50% discount milna chaahiye on monthly Internet Bill.

That way, they will be able to do justice to the role assigned to them:),,,,,,,

Above alllll they should be given Bullet Proof Jackets also,,,:rock,,,,iski sabse jyaada jarurat hai,,,,saath mein First Aid Box,,,,,,,,,4-5 Doctors oncall hone chaahiye :)

choudharyneelam
November 10th, 2008, 02:40 PM
My Team for this discussion:

1. Poonam Khokhar

2. Mini Chaudhary

3. Neelam Chaudhary

4. Samar Singh

Thanks Samar, I'm ready to participate as your team member :)

dkumars
November 10th, 2008, 02:44 PM
My Team for this discussion:


1. Poonam Khokhar

2. Mini Chaudhary

3. Neelam Chaudhary

4. Samar Singh


Thanks Samar, I'm ready to participate as your team member :)


Great to see enthuciastic participation.
But wanna say one thing. It will be good if we can use 'OUR' rather than MY and YOUR and similar pronoun. It gives a feeling of team when we use OUR. Off course Leads are required for a group of ppl but just avoiding such words and use of words like OUR for whole team is more appropriate. No one is anyone's team. We all are in our team. This is my personal feeling :)

choudharyneelam
November 10th, 2008, 02:47 PM
can i suggest few names who can be very good group leaders/members (its my observation... i may be wrong)

1. neelam chaudhary


Sir, I'm ready to participate with other members....Samar leading our team :)

Regards
Neelam

cooljat
November 10th, 2008, 02:50 PM
Our tentative list is -

Mukesh Samota
Shobhit Deshwal
Satinder Goyat
Prashant Nauhar
Dr Neels

Final list and Team Leader name will be announced shortly.

Jit

choudharyneelam
November 10th, 2008, 02:54 PM
Great to see enthuciastic participation.
But wanna say one thing. It will be good if we can use 'OUR' rather than MY and YOUR and similar pronoun. It gives a feeling of team when we use OUR. Off course Leads are required for a group of ppl but just avoiding such words and use words like OUR for whole team is more appropriate. No one is anyone's team. We all are in our team. This is my personal feeling :)

You are absolutely right dear

This difference was due to the way I was addressing Samar. For your kind information, I've used the word 'OUR' in my next response :)....So, as a team member I understand what is the feeling behind I, You, We, My, Your and Our....Difference comes because of the message....and that was personally spoken to Samar.

Anyways, Thanks for sharing good opinion :)

jitendershooda
November 10th, 2008, 03:46 PM
I would like to make my contribution to this cause ... As I am pretty occupied with something personal these days and hence I don't think I will be able to do justice. I am sorry. Since the idea looks very exciting and constructive .. :)
Prashant Hooda n team will tke over it... :):)

Thanks Maniisha, for clearing your stand beforehand.

anilsinghd
November 10th, 2008, 03:56 PM
Thanks Maniisha, for clearing your stand beforehand.


Jit its time you think over the various time lines for these things , set up deadlines , set up the desired panel etc ... and also as someone suggesteed , should be willing to take responsibilities.

jitendershooda
November 10th, 2008, 03:59 PM
3) My team is full : Anil Dalal, Vijay Singh , Shweta Dhaka, Devender Kumar, Sumit Sehrawat, Braham Tewatia. :D ( Am sure this one is going to be a deadly combo :p ).




My Team for this discussion:

1. Poonam Khokhar

2. Mini Chaudhary

3. Neelam Chaudhary

4. Samar Singh


Our tentative list is -

Mukesh Samota
Shobhit Deshwal
Satinder Goyat
Prashant Nauhar
Dr Neels

Final list and Team Leader name will be announced shortly.

Jit

Thanks friends.
The teams are as follows (as of now, still two days to go for the final list):

1) Anil Dalal:
Anil Dalal, Vijay Singh , Shweta Dhaka, Devender Kumar, Sumit Sehrawat, Braham Tewatia

2) Samar Kadian:
Poonam Khokhar, Mini Chaudhary, Neelam Chaudhary, Samar Singh

3) Jitender Takhar:
Mukesh Samota, Shobhit Deshwal, Satinder Goyat, Prashant Nauhar, Dr Neels, Jitender Takhar

As indicated by Jitender Takhar that their team may choose some leader from theirs. This is fine and these three teams can do the same till wednesday EOD IST.

Now, how many members per team would be good? Say 6-7? Anil has already 6 members and so Jitender Takhar. So please involve Nishant Rathi, Ramesh Lakra Ji and others who come and are interested till we have space. If we dont have space in our teams then members please bear with us till the next event without any hard feelings.

Good Luck Guys, its nice to see the enthu. Regarding Judges we will discuss in the mean time, whether we really need them out of the teams or from them will do?

cooljat
November 10th, 2008, 10:20 PM
Our tentative list is -

Mukesh Samota
Shobhit Deshwal
Satinder Goyat
Prashant Nauhar
Dr Neels

Final list and Team Leader name will be announced shortly.

Jit

Lil update !..

Neels is not able to join in due to her hectic schedule; am not sure about Prashant either ... need to confirm with him as well !

Samarkadian
November 11th, 2008, 12:14 AM
Great to see enthuciastic participation.
But wanna say one thing. It will be good if we can use 'OUR' rather than MY and YOUR and similar pronoun. It gives a feeling of team when we use OUR. Off course Leads are required for a group of ppl but just avoiding such words and use of words like OUR for whole team is more appropriate. No one is anyone's team. We all are in our team. This is my personal feeling :)

Thanks but I think I might consider this thing sometime later like 3-4 months from now.Till then keep sending me a reminder about difference and usage of MY n OUR on weekly basis.

I think Polythene issue is of more imporatnce to everyone in this discussion rather than puking in with confused personal feelings at every single word of anyone's post.

Such posts are turn offs!!

ram6april
November 11th, 2008, 07:00 AM
Bhai Jitu yo ke saang chalaa diyaa tanne... ibb taii koi baat samajh me nahi aayi akk karnaa ke sai............ team taam te banwaa dee.. inkaa kaam bhi bata de ibb..........arr Samar singh yo teraa bridge nahi banaa se ibbe........

well may be i m off topic.. but i gone through many posts.. was trying to understand what we wnat to do.......... jab kuch saruuu ho jyaa te manne bhi bulaa liyo...... hope Jitu know i m always up for social work...........

gud luck guys

regards

Ram

pnauhwar21
November 11th, 2008, 08:57 AM
Lil update !..

Neels is not able to join in due to her hectic schedule; am not sure about Prashant either ... need to confirm with him as well !

Jit..I will be there..no worries..bas jara asla, bandook stock karna shuru kar do..we may need it!!

As for the topic of discussion, even I am not too clear of the exact goals and process of team presentations as some others pointed out. Jitu bhai, please explain.

If we take polythene issue as a sample topic, do you expect each team to send their comments on best way to solve the problem? will that be a final consolidated list from all team members and needs to be posted as the single response from that team?

Are judges going to review and tell whose idea/presentation was best on that topic?

What are the respective team leaders expected to do?

Why do you even need teams for this? Isn't individual contribution in a thread more or less same?

Hope to get more clarity on the goals. As for teams, we can have names for each team viz. Lathmaar Rockstars :) and don't limit no. of teams to 3 if you want to follow team concept. Also, provide an option for some 'Indpendents' too who don't want to be associated with any party but still want to participate!!

dkumars
November 11th, 2008, 11:21 AM
Thanks but I think I might consider this thing sometime later like 3-4 months from now.Till then keep sending me a reminder about difference and usage of MY n OUR on weekly basis.

I think Polythene issue is of more imporatnce to everyone in this discussion rather than puking in with confused personal feelings at every single word of anyone's post.

Such posts are turn offs!!

That post was not for particular individual. And I feel there is something constructive in that rather than leg pulling but its up to ppl how do they take things. Well, I accept it was my mistake and please accept my apologies. I shall refrain to write something similar.

cooljat
November 11th, 2008, 11:38 AM
Thanks bhai, Tyaari ka agaaz kar diya hai mene !! :)


Jit..I will be there..no worries..bas jara asla, bandook stock karna shuru kar do..we may need it!!

As for the topic of discussion, even I am not too clear of the exact goals and process of team presentations as some others pointed out. Jitu bhai, please explain.

If we take polythene issue as a sample topic, do you expect each team to send their comments on best way to solve the problem? will that be a final consolidated list from all team members and needs to be posted as the single response from that team?

Are judges going to review and tell whose idea/presentation was best on that topic?

What are the respective team leaders expected to do?

Why do you even need teams for this? Isn't individual contribution in a thread more or less same?

Hope to get more clarity on the goals. As for teams, we can have names for each team viz. Lathmaar Rockstars :) and don't limit no. of teams to 3 if you want to follow team concept. Also, provide an option for some 'Indpendents' too who don't want to be associated with any party but still want to participate!!

shweta123
November 11th, 2008, 01:13 PM
Well, the race is about to start ! But can I come forward to suggest few topics which just came into my mind ?

The sample topic given to us is indeed an apt topic considering the present scenario and need of the hour, but in my opinion I found this topic to be revolving around certain scientific facts and it will be more of a search for already known measures and our personal input will be limited around assembling the various aspects related therein owing to our limited knowledge of the subject area.

Thereby I thought of few topics which are topics which have a vast scope for self-analysis and further evaluation, and moreover these speaks of societal benefit. In case we wish to pick any of these topics it will be even more thought provoking and even appealing to the members who are not participating as part of any team :)


I can come up with few more activities which can also be accommodated in this whole process to make it more interesting and a really never-before kind of thing at JL !




Liberalism, westernization & globalization – where to draw the line to retain our best, adopt the best and stay away from the rest?

:)
What all can a common man do to change India for the better?

:)


How not to let difference of opinions tear us apart, and arrive at the most apt one?

:)


How do you think a common man can stand and fight against corruption?


:)


We Indians are a mixed breed – how to co-exist, flourish and stand tall?

:)


Every individual has immense potential – how to recognize and churn it for best results?

:)

I know I can fly in the skies but I am too lazy to open my wings and give it a start – how to fight against our own self and kick start our dream life!

:)


Requirements of an ideal education system for Inida – a thoughtful analysis.

brahmtewatia
November 11th, 2008, 01:46 PM
Great to see enthuciastic participation.
But wanna say one thing. It will be good if we can use 'OUR' rather than MY and YOUR and similar pronoun. It gives a feeling of team when we use OUR. Off course Leads are required for a group of ppl but just avoiding such words and use of words like OUR for whole team is more appropriate. No one is anyone's team. We all are in our team. This is my personal feeling :)


Thanks but I think I might consider this thing sometime later like 3-4 months from now.Till then keep sending me a reminder about difference and usage of MY n OUR on weekly basis.

I think Polythene issue is of more imporatnce to everyone in this discussion rather than puking in with confused personal feelings at every single word of anyone's post.

Such posts are turn offs!!

same is true with yr underlined words... i personally feel dev was nowhere wrong in pointing tht out. although it is obvious nd understood, but i guess heavens have not fallen if he said so. ;):)

p.s. : my apologies on my remarks, pls dont blow the issue out of proportion and put a full-stop immediately (me included). :)
p.s. : pls appreciate u are on a JAT portal... errr their outlook and mentality.

choudharyneelam
November 11th, 2008, 02:23 PM
same is true with yr underlined words... i personally feel dev was nowhere wrong in pointing tht out. although it is obvious nd understood, but i guess heavens have not fallen if he said so. ;):)

p.s. : my apologies on my remarks, pls dont blow the issue out of proportion and put a full-stop immediately (me included). :)
p.s. : pls appreciate u are on a JAT portal... errr their outlook and mentality.


putting full-stop from our side.

Team No. 2 :)

jitendershooda
November 11th, 2008, 03:53 PM
Bhai Jitu yo ke saang chalaa diyaa tanne... ibb taii koi baat samajh me nahi aayi akk karnaa ke sai............



As for the topic of discussion, even I am not too clear of the exact goals and process of team presentations as some others pointed out. Jitu bhai, please explain.

If we take polythene issue as a sample topic, do you expect each team to send their comments on best way to solve the problem? will that be a final consolidated list from all team members and needs to be posted as the single response from that team?

Are judges going to review and tell whose idea/presentation was best on that topic?

What are the respective team leaders expected to do?

Why do you even need teams for this? Isn't individual contribution in a thread more or less same?

Hope to get more clarity on the goals. As for teams, we can have names for each team viz. Lathmaar Rockstars :) and don't limit no. of teams to 3 if you want to follow team concept. Also, provide an option for some 'Indpendents' too who don't want to be associated with any party but still want to participate!!

:)

Bhaiyo thanks for your inputs/queries. First thing I wish to clear is that I have started this with a feeling that its for all of us and if you found it feasible we can change it accordingly as to get maximum out of it.

Now what were my initial thoughts, perhaps I have shared in previous posts but still again I am jotting down them all-together.

1) I thought of having some nice collection of material on some topics. these topics can be chosen by us. I had given an example. I was willing to choose topics related to some root level issue and that we can address some way or the other. Discussing a topic to lengths will not have any effect if that cant be applied in real lives. So I thought to pick topics like ... Polythene issue, Safe Driving (wear helmets, wearing belts, pollution check etc etc), Reduce power/water wastage (harvesting water and means to do it) ....

2) I was thinking that such topics if discussed in teams with different people of different areas would yield good output in terms of material. Now Shweta said that there are obvious facts about polythene issue ... first its flexible to be changed but I feel that it will be better to go with easier or lighter ones first. Second though its obvious but for sure you will not find one stop document or presentation with all inputs to be taken directly for any presentation etc. We are doing discussions here on JL for many topics and I feel that if those energies can make a collection of nice docs or presentations it would be helpfull for members or others to use them in real lives.

3) Now where I thought these would have been used ..... In Schools (by students, NGOs, Teachers etc.), In organisations (Some organisations are going 'Green' these days and members working in them can participate in organisation level debates or seminars or encourage their organisations with these presentations, material, charts to attaract attention towards these issues. Like for polythene issue ... if somebody take initiative in their respective organisations and ask them not to use polythene where it can be avoided like carrying lunches ... hope this will have some little contribution ... likewise many organisations dont shut their monitors or machines in night time ... we can go ahead and propose them solutions ... second how to reduce wastage of paper ... like by using printers those can print both ways ... and to encourage people only to print things when needed ... etc etc.)

Like JJ/ADAA or any other NGO Sparsh (Anil, nysha etc) may be able to use these to visit schools as they are the building blocks for future and making them understand can change the coming times.

4) Now why this team effort and not individual posts like happening on threads .... also the team leader thing .... I thought and see in past that in threads people posts and there are several good points but I havent ever seen a full fledged ready to pick thing .... one have to spent lots and lots of time to do so. Like regarding Jat Reservation issue one person sent me a message long back and asked me to generate a complete ready to go document from your side. I have posted n number of posts but was not able or got will to do so. (THOUGH THIS WAS JUST AN EXAMPLE ... PLEASE DONT TAKE THIS JAT RESERVATION THING FURTHER ON THIS TOPIC BEING CONTROVERSIAL HERE ... :))

So if we would be in teams, one person will be coordinating the team means picking one thing from other and discussing among them and distributing work like one will do cartoons/charts types, presentation or doc .... and club the material altogether and talk to judges if any concern (if we will be going to have judges for the same?) .... So I thought of having a one person in team to contact.

5) Now yesterday Anil Dalal have come up with nice thought that I was also thinking. He said this was we will be having few teams and all will be doing the same redundant task. So it is better to pick several topics and then assign randomly to the teams. It will remove the redundancy and we will be having n number of topics discussed and good output material of them.

Also we can judge which team has better presentation, doc or which has best cartoon etc.

Now things which we can decide here:

1) How many teams? 3-4 or many?
My thoughts are that first start with 3 only and we can improve by first experience later on.
2) Time span ... aisa na ho ki baton mein hi lage rahe ki ye karna chahiye aur wo .. aur ho kuch na ... better is to start with some concrete and small in start and then we can increase it further after first experiment.
3) What can be the topics? Say three for the time being?
Now I fear that people coming up with their inputs and not being picked will be irritated. But please dont do so.
4) Judges ... if we really require them. Now if yes.
then will it be better to pick them from the teams only or some outside person. As nobody from the names mentioned have come up.
5) What all should be there for the teams to prepare.
My thoughts:
a) A document related to topic. Covering the Issue, what are the causes, Where we are adding to it, How we can improve, real life things like in indian schools where we can reduce polythene usage, at homes (increasing jholla usage instead of polypacks), in organisations etc. What will be the benefit and our share to it. If we will not do so what may happen.

I think it should not be a thesis but concrete and nice real life with easy english language used so as to reach maximum. All things simplified and presented with examples and very real life small small things where we can bring change. Talking of changing system is the last step but we should think minimum that we can with very ease. Like making people to carry cloth carrier for lunch in schools or offices instead of polythenes, or to carry JHOLLA for carrying vegetables from market. Also wearing helmets and seat belts. I am sure many people will have many small small ideas.
Navin Bhai once rightly said that we start talking big at once but we should think of the bare minimum that we can do and not merely talk.

Here number of lines limitation can be done like 300-400 etc.

b) Presentations that catch humans mind. Yesterday I was watching one Ad regarding "How Important is to Wear seat belt". They have shown that two cars got collided and there was a steering balloon too but even then the person died of the internal body parts wear and tear. Some artery of his heart got too much stretched with sudden shock and thats why he died.
It was catching one. So such kind of presentations can be there like we know in our country students dont wear helmets for shosha, mach ke ... ha ha ... so its time to address it and if we will be able to influence even a small number that will also be good. If presentations are good enough we as ADAA/JJ can meet different schools and ask them to play/slideshow it during some particular sessions.

Number of slides limitation can be applied like max 20-25 slides or so?
c) Cartoon/Chart:
Cartoons/Charts will be required by the people to stick somewhere in their work area. We can take a print and use. If such can be build its great. I am sure Shailender bhai can do it really well. And they are indeed the stoppers.

Please provide your views.

anilsinghd
November 11th, 2008, 05:09 PM
:)


1) I thought of having some nice collection of material on some topics. these topics can be chosen by us.

Jitender , I am sure you have started with the right approach. No process like this can be well defined at the initiation. It has to be iterative , we have to see how and what of response we generate and then can take it from there.
Though I would say that we should be at least looking at a presentation by each team or any of its members to some insitutions / schools / colleges under the banner of lets say JL so as to really venture into reality and that sounds very well for the future.


4) Now why this team effort

Very essential to have a face which represents the team , We will let you know about ours pretty soon.

5) So it is better to pick several topics and then assign randomly to the teams.

Absolutely agree , since we formed our team first and are already on the work , we take up the polythene one , please find other topics for the other teams.



My personal opinions:

1) How many teams? 3-4 or many?

Starting with 3 is not a bad idea , we can include more in second round.


2) Time span ...

2 weeks is a good enough time i believe! :)


3) What can be the topics? Say three for the time being?
Now I fear that people coming up with their inputs and not being picked will be irritated. But please dont do so.

Topic for each time , the people not included this time in the meantime can form their teams and we can include them in the next round!

4) Judges ... if we really require them.

If we can find some volunteers , god enough , else i would go with 25% weight to the polls of members , and 25 % by judges ( if we dont find any , then some forced judges ( senior members ) , 50 % to the rival teams. Each team would be judging the content and presentation etc of the rival teams as well ).


5) What all should be there for the teams to prepare.
A document related to topic. , Presentations , Cartoon/Chart , Anything else they wanna show.



Please note that we already have started to put our processes in place.

Thanks,
Anil

sannand
November 11th, 2008, 07:23 PM
Let the judges suggest the topics !

That will make it more transparent. Hope appointed judges are learned enough and know what exactly is being asked for from the teams, so as to utilise this effort for the betterment of wherein required viz. ADAA/JJ .

jitendershooda
November 12th, 2008, 05:42 PM
Thanks Anil for such a positive response.

Samar and Jitender Takhar, please put final list of your teams. Also Samar/jit please include Nishant Rathi and Ramesh Lakra with you if have space as they have shown interest earlier.

Anil have chosen topic "Say No to Polythene".
Both the other teams are open to choose a topic of their choice that they found realistic and which can be applied in real scenerio by our NGO groups or somewhere by members themselves. And their contents also proove helpful to them.

So, Leaders please provide your final names and topics at the earliest.

Start your team work from today itself. Good Luck!!!

Submit your final material by December 20. We can then have polls till Dec 31st and on 1st Of Jan the final Result can be declared. (After the judges in place teams can approach them for any changes they require regarding schedule, but it will be better to be in timelines)

In the meantime I will chase seniors for their names for judges and by the end of next week we will be having 3 judges in place. Teams can then approach the judges for any of their issues.

cooljat
November 12th, 2008, 06:50 PM
Bhai Hooda by tomorrow Morning my final list will be out.






Samar and Jitender Takhar, please put final list of your teams. Also Samar/jit please include Nishant Rathi and Ramesh Lakra with you if have space as they have shown interest earlier.

shailendra
November 12th, 2008, 09:12 PM
...Okay folks, I am here too... one more interested party! ;)

I am still trying to read thru the complete thread (gosh!) and gather the basic thumbrules that are being suggested/created; so personally still a lil' grey in some areas.... BUT anyways- 'am here!

Eitherways wouldn't even mind being that 'judge' as suggested (if that is even the right word for trying to critique any of the initatives that end up being discussed here) and/or as one of the contributors to a topic that totally grabs the imagination (think cartoons! :D),

BUT firstly I think Jitender you for one should go ahead and clearly lay down a set of rules, guidelines and format for the whole process- something like a manifesto [without being too careful of treading carefully... or trying to please everyone, I mean...]
You apparently have a thought (a method to this whole madness ;)) and we all would surely like to hear that fully laid out first by you the initiator and then can always (AT THAT POINT) give our two cents, fine tune if something needs to be changed on these rules and guidelines... but someone clearly needs to make that call first!

Samarkadian
November 13th, 2008, 02:53 PM
Okay Hooda, Ramesh Lakra ji is in my team. So now we are full 5 members as of now.

cooljat
November 13th, 2008, 05:10 PM
My Team is:

1) Prashant Nauhar
2) Mukesh Kumar
3) Shobhit Deshwal
4) Satinder Goyat
5) Neetu Sherawat

We also have chose one topic and that is, -


Farmers in India : Act before they become rebel !!

a) Everyone in the country talk about the farmers and their problem but hardly there has been anything done to give a voice to their everlasting problems. Why this sorry state of affairs??

b) There have been n numbers of agriculture oriented polices framed but irony is that not even a single time the main stakeholder (farmer) is taken into confidence, thus all policies failed miserably to address the issue. Why can’t a farmer be asked that, what he has to say on his problem?

c) Why we (common people) don’t give much attention to their problems and never support them whereas we got too much worried when the Sensex falls down. Why such double standards approach? Will we act only when we will have the shortage of grain in stock?

d) Today farmers don’t find much space in the election manifesto of political parties, where it used to rule sometime back? What it shows?

e) Prices of Agri products are rocking but still the farmers are not getting their due as they are being paid the low prices in which they are even unable to recover the operation cost.

f) Farming used to be a profit making business but today, it is a crush. How we could bring the old glorious days back? What could be done to regain the lost confidence of farmers?

So what we feel that there are n numbers of issues related to farming and farmers which, we can address and could even present workable solutions of all such problems, which could be very helpful as well.



Wish us luck guys !! ..


Rock on
Jit

jitendershooda
November 13th, 2008, 09:45 PM
Jitender you for one should go ahead and clearly lay down a set of rules, guidelines and format for the whole process- something like a manifesto [without being too careful of treading carefully... or trying to please everyone, I mean...]


There are three teams.

1) Anil Dalal:
Anil Dalal, Vijay Singh , Shweta Dhaka, Devender Kumar, Sumit Sehrawat, Braham Tewatia
TOPIC: Say No To Polythene

2) Samar Kadian:
Poonam Khokhar, Mini Chaudhary, Neelam Chaudhary, Samar Singh, Ramesh Lakra
TOPIC: Yet to be decided???

3) Jitender Takhar:
Jitender Takhar, Prashant Nauhar, Mukesh Kumar, Shobhit Deshwal, Satinder Goyat, Neetu Sherawat
TOPIC: Farmers in India : Act before they become rebel !!


Rules, Guidelines and process:

1) Teams have one Team Leader each. Who will coordinate among the team and talk to the panel of judges (will be 3).
Leaders are Jitender Takhar, Anil Dalal, Samar Kadian.


2) Teams have to pick one topic each.

a) Topic must be some realistic one in which the teams can provide the material that can be of use to somebody in real scenerio.
b) Topic must be one for which a JL member can utilize the output of the teams in as is manner. As it will include the simple ways and means that members can do in society.
c) A topic that have real implication and which the members can also utilize will be weighed more by judges.
d) Topic should be general and not for a particular caste/religion.
3) Teams have to provide the following on 20th december:

a) Document:

i) This may range from 200 - 400 lines.
ii) Should have easier and effective language so as to reach maximum audience.
iii) Clearly defines the problem, how it is affecting, what can be the measures and benefits, how common man/NGOs/corporate organisations become a part of the support, Small small methods in which a common man can bring some change etc.

b) Presentation:

i) May contain 20-30 slides.
ii) Can be a PPT, Flash or any other presentation with details how to use it. (Rest Same as Document)

c) Cartoons/Charts

i) Max 10 - Min 3
ii) Shailender Bhai can be approached by any of the teams.
4) Important Dates:

December 20: Date of material Submission
December 21: Start a Poll thread for members with the material
December 30: Last day of members poll
January 1: Results


Deciding Ranks:

1) A : 50% Judges numbers on a scale of 10. Mean of the numbers given by judges.
2) B : (No of votes gained by a team / all votes casted) * 10
3) A + B = Result
4) The above ranks will be separate for Presentation, Document and Cartoon. In this way each team has an opportunity to excel in any.
5) Total of all can lead a team to Rank 1, 2 and 3.


Judges:

1) 3 Judges will be there.
2) They can talk with each other and decide on every matter.
3) In case of any different thoughts, majority will lead.
4) Can ask the team leader to think again for the topics.
5) Can extend the deadlines looking at the situation and discussing with teams.
First Judge we found is Shailendra Hooda. Will talk to a few and update for the rest two.


Hope now I have covered most of the things. Still if you found any grey area, please write and let the panel decide in the coming week. All these are just my thoughts and I put it across and these can be amended by the panel as they found feasible.

jitendershooda
November 13th, 2008, 09:46 PM
Wish us luck guys !! ..

Rock on
Jit


Thanks and Good Luck Jitender and All the teams.

jitendershooda
November 13th, 2008, 09:47 PM
Okay Hooda, Ramesh Lakra ji is in my team. So now we are full 5 members as of now.

Thanks bhai ... please choose your Topic and start as both others have already. Good Luck!!!

anilsinghd
November 13th, 2008, 10:42 PM
[quote=jitendershooda;187595]There are three teams.

1) Anil Dalal:
Anil Dalal, Vijay Singh , Shweta Dhaka, Devender Kumar, Sumit Sehrawat, Braham Tewatia
TOPIC: Say No To Polythene
Leaders are Jitender Takhar, Anil Dalal, Samar Kadian.


[quote]

Hi Jit , thanks for putting it more formally! :) appreciate that , it gives us more clarity.

Meanwhile a couple of comments from our side:
1) Sumit and Vijay have asked to be kept out at least for the time being , so we will be adding a couple more members! We will do that ourselves and let you know!
2) Shweta will be the leaader of our team.

Thanks and we wish the other teams all the very best! :)

Regards,
anil

jitendershooda
November 13th, 2008, 11:05 PM
Meanwhile a couple of comments from our side:
1) Sumit and Vijay have asked to be kept out at least for the time being , so we will be adding a couple more members! We will do that ourselves and let you know!
2) Shweta will be the leaader of our team.

Thanks and we wish the other teams all the very best! :)

Regards,
anil

Thanks Bhai. Good Luck and carry on.

One good news from my side too. We have now two judges and waiting for the reply from the third one :)

Laxman Burdak Ji & Shailender Hooda

jitendershooda
November 17th, 2008, 03:41 PM
Hope you all are doing well!!!

Samar bhai aapki team ki taraf se topic abhi nahi display hua. Also please contact Shailendra and Burdak ji for any issues.

One more thing I wish to add is that the Names before the judges numbers/marking will not be displayed or the mean of their numbers would be shown directly to avoid personal issues later on.

Good Luck!!!

jitendershooda
November 17th, 2008, 04:10 PM
Good to see the below effort ... Log sambhal rahe hein ....

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2008/20081117/haryana.htm#9
The Senior Citizens Club (SCC), Ladwa, launched a campaign to eradicate polythene bags and a cleanliness drive here today. The campaign was inaugurated by the chairman of the Managing Committee of Indira Gandhi National College, Dhanaura (Ladwa), Pawan Garg, under the leadership of project chairman Kailash Bansal, municipal commissioner, Ladwa.

The campaign, which started from Hindu High School, Ladwa, passed through Thakri Devi Girls High School, Shugni Devi Girls Senior Secondary School, Sangam Market, Athvadiya mandir, old sabzi mandi, Bajaja Bazar, Sarafa Bazar and Masjid.
It concluded near Brahm mandir and Khera mandir.
Besides senior citizens, other residents of Ladwa and Ladwa municipality employees joined the campaign and inspired the people not to use polythene bags and keep their surroundings clean.
They urged the people to avoid using polythene bags and instead of throwing them these should be destroyed as the polythene bags choke the drainage system, create hindrance in water recharge and destroy fertility if thrown in garbage. Meanwhile, SCC members appealed the state government to set up a polythene treatment plant in Ladwa and other towns.

Samarkadian
November 17th, 2008, 09:00 PM
Hello Hooda,

I apologise for being late.Earlier I thought every team has to prepare over the issue of '' Polythene''.Since every team now has to come up with different topic , so my team would not go far away than JL.

Our team's topic would be { JL: A Case Study: Online Virtual World's effectiveness and issues to increase its effectivity in possible means.}

Team members please note, we will have to start with our own JL about its scope, achievements, possiblities, potentials, etc.

PS: Any volunteer please feel free for advicing, suggesting in this case study of JL.But initially in PM or an email.It could be of great help to the site for fruitful ideas as well as to topic.

ritu
November 17th, 2008, 11:34 PM
yeah.....main stores in us also stopped using plastic bags.instead they are encouraging ppl to use reusable bags and selling these bags for cheap price.some volunteers are sewing linen bags and distributing them for free.ppl are going back to the oldways..i still remember my mom bringing groceries in tokris ,jhollas and hand held baskets.
Good to see the below effort ... Log sambhal rahe hein ....

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2008/20081117/haryana.htm#9
The Senior Citizens Club (SCC), Ladwa, launched a campaign to eradicate polythene bags and a cleanliness drive here today. The campaign was inaugurated by the chairman of the Managing Committee of Indira Gandhi National College, Dhanaura (Ladwa), Pawan Garg, under the leadership of project chairman Kailash Bansal, municipal commissioner, Ladwa.

The campaign, which started from Hindu High School, Ladwa, passed through Thakri Devi Girls High School, Shugni Devi Girls Senior Secondary School, Sangam Market, Athvadiya mandir, old sabzi mandi, Bajaja Bazar, Sarafa Bazar and Masjid.
It concluded near Brahm mandir and Khera mandir.
Besides senior citizens, other residents of Ladwa and Ladwa municipality employees joined the campaign and inspired the people not to use polythene bags and keep their surroundings clean.
They urged the people to avoid using polythene bags and instead of throwing them these should be destroyed as the polythene bags choke the drainage system, create hindrance in water recharge and destroy fertility if thrown in garbage. Meanwhile, SCC members appealed the state government to set up a polythene treatment plant in Ladwa and other towns.

jitendershooda
November 19th, 2008, 06:50 PM
Hope you all are doing well!!!

Samar bhai aapki team ki taraf se topic abhi nahi display hua. Also please contact Shailendra and Burdak ji for any issues.



Thanks Samar for your nice topic. Good Luck!!!

Teams, now we have these three with us in the judges panel:
Laxman Burdak Ji
Shalendra Hooda Bhai
Dr. Neelam Rathi Ji (neels)

Please be in touch with them for any kind of issues or queries.

Judges, please spare some time to carry this forward now.

cooljat
November 24th, 2008, 01:54 PM
Just a lil update from my side -

Satinder is out of team ... he is tied up with so much work so can't devote time here thus decided to resign!!

Anju Choudhary is our new joinee ... :)


Final List is -

1) Prashant Nauhar
2) Mukesh Kumar
3) Shobhit Deshwal
4) Anju Choudhary
5) Neetu Sherawat


Thanks !


Rock on
Jit


My Team is:

1) Prashant Nauhar
2) Mukesh Kumar
3) Shobhit Deshwal
4) Satinder Goyat
5) Neetu Sherawat

We also have chose one topic and that is, -


Farmers in India : Act before they become rebel !!

a) Everyone in the country talk about the farmers and their problem but hardly there has been anything done to give a voice to their everlasting problems. Why this sorry state of affairs??

b) There have been n numbers of agriculture oriented polices framed but irony is that not even a single time the main stakeholder (farmer) is taken into confidence, thus all policies failed miserably to address the issue. Why can’t a farmer be asked that, what he has to say on his problem?

c) Why we (common people) don’t give much attention to their problems and never support them whereas we got too much worried when the Sensex falls down. Why such double standards approach? Will we act only when we will have the shortage of grain in stock?

d) Today farmers don’t find much space in the election manifesto of political parties, where it used to rule sometime back? What it shows?

e) Prices of Agri products are rocking but still the farmers are not getting their due as they are being paid the low prices in which they are even unable to recover the operation cost.

f) Farming used to be a profit making business but today, it is a crush. How we could bring the old glorious days back? What could be done to regain the lost confidence of farmers?

So what we feel that there are n numbers of issues related to farming and farmers which, we can address and could even present workable solutions of all such problems, which could be very helpful as well.



Wish us luck guys !! ..


Rock on
Jit

jitendershooda
December 2nd, 2008, 08:38 PM
Bhaiyo ke baat sare tum itne karde hoke mandge ek koe update bhi nahi deta .... itne tareekh aavegi itne to iss taagge ke talla lag jyaga :).

Keep posting and encouraging each other friends and judges.

Also I came across need for one more thing last week and for this we have lots and lots of people here to pour in. Many of our senior members like Dev Ji, Jagmohan, BLS ji, Tewatia Ji, Navin Gulia bhai etc are from military background and have good experiences. Some of them might have been in selection panels too. One of my relative has cleared NDA exam and he was asking me about Whether he should go for SSB training given by many retired personnels or what should be the pattern for preparation. And many other queries he have. I can only provide things by my mind and that is for sure not perfect. I have consulted Navin bhai and thanks to him for his time that he has given to that chap. But if these people can join and make their team and come up with

1) All the FAQs/Queries that a aspirant may have regarding military and selection procedure like .... is it good to go for this job these days, what are the benefits, what are the hardships that may come, whether they should go for some kind of coaching or not, whether they should give money to some or not as there are lots of known institutes who take money for this, what are the 14 qualities that they hunt for .... etc etc

2) What is the complete procedure starting from screening, individual tasks, joint tasks, interviews, phyco tests ..... along with the things needs to take care in each.

3) Which books may help and for how long preparation would be fine

etc etc.

And we can put that material here on JL for usage of all and it will have great help for the thousands of students.

devdahiya
December 2nd, 2008, 08:49 PM
Jitu......i am ready to help such young people in whatever way they want.Can mail him my advise if he/they can't come.Any thing for the good of our community will be my Khushkismati.

jitendershooda
December 2nd, 2008, 09:07 PM
Jitu......i am ready to help such young people in whatever way they want.Can mail him my advise if he/they can't come.Any thing for the good of our community will be my Khushkismati.

Thanks a lot Dev Ji for your support. Dev Ji, please spare some time and make a team of you retired officers here on JL so that the final document will contain full views and aspects with good inputs from all of you. Which we can place here on JL for help of our new generations.

What we youngers can help you out is we can post the queries and questions that a student have at that point of time. Me, Mukesh samota (as he addressed the same many time here perhaps he would be happy to share) and others too.

What you can do is collect all kind of queries and then coordinate among your team and ask inputs from all of them and then jot them down in a single full fledged document or whatever way you seniors find it feasible to you people.

Team:
Dev Dahiya, Jagmohan Malik, Col Tewatia, BLS, Navin Gulia etc.

devdahiya
December 2nd, 2008, 09:13 PM
Thanks a lot Dev Ji for your support. Dev Ji, please spare some time and make a team of you retired officers here on JL so that the final document will contain full views and aspects with good inputs from all of you. Which we can place here on JL for help of our new generations.

What we youngers can help you out is we can post the queries and questions that a student have at that point of time. Me, Mukesh samota (as he addressed the same many time here perhaps he would be happy to share) and others too.

What you can do is collect all kind of queries and then coordinate among your team and ask inputs from all of them and then jot them down in a single full fledged document or whatever way you seniors find it feasible to you people.

Team:
Dev Dahiya, Jagmohan Malik, Col Tewatia, BLS, Navin Gulia etc.



Jitu you have already made the team......we will do it as desired.

choudharyneelam
December 2nd, 2008, 09:21 PM
Jitender Ji, what's the deadline?

Is it 20th Dec. or extended?

jitendershooda
December 2nd, 2008, 10:16 PM
Jitender Ji, what's the deadline?

Is it 20th Dec. or extended?

Neelam ji, I dont know about this if this happen in personal messages between Team Leaders and judges but it doesnt reflect on this thread.

Please confirm this with the TLs or Judges (Laxman Burdak, Shailendra, Neels)

The post that I made today is an idea that I got and this is for the seniors only and have no affect on the current ongoing event.

mittu
December 3rd, 2008, 08:48 AM
looking forward to your work guys :)
keep working hard.

devdahiya
December 3rd, 2008, 09:45 AM
After having cleared written exam ie UPSC one is called for SERVICES SELECTION BOARD interview.At services selection center a guy is tested in three fields ...namely ....Psychological,Ground test and Interview by the president of the SSB.Each test compliments eachother.For example in psychological test one exhibits ones traits in a class room.The test is so designed that one can hardly bluff things away as the test is almost rapid fire with very little time to fabricate the thoughts.This test is divided into the following sub heads:

a)Word building: Here about 60 words are given to the candidates to form a sentence.Mind you all these words (set of 5 words]) are jumbled in a perfect way.Basically the psychologist wants to test the candidates in 12 symbolic qualities...a pre-requisite towards the selection.These words are normal words like MOTHER,ENEMY,SNAKE,FLOWER etc but when a sentence is made out of them a lot is revealed through them by the candidates.Each set of 5 jumbled words need a similar pattern of answers if one has to be considered.One word out of them can be at serial no 1,second can be at Serial 18,third at 32..so on and so forth.For example i take these five such words..complimenting each other necessitating similar kind of responses.For example:

Mother ...sr 5: God could not be every where and so he created mothers: here the candidate is showing not only intelligence but also is able to describe the mother beautifully.

Sacrifice....Sr 21: No sacrifice is big enough in the service of motherland: Again this sentence compliments the feelings expressed in the above sentence made with mother in focus and hence so far so good for the candidate....there can be many such sentences.

SERVICE.....at Sr 34: If my life can be sacrificed in the service of my nation..it will be wonderful thing.

Selflessness....at Sr 43: There can not be a more selfless love than that of a mother.

ADORE..at Sr 56: I adore my beautiful nation.



Now if a person is honest and is not trying to become what he is not...will only give correct picture about his thinking.....and it is very easy for the psychologist to catch the bluff and put a cross in front of the candidate.



b) Next test is the TEST OF BASIC INTELLIGENCE: Here there are a few tests for finding out the basic IQ level of a candidate...Like filling the slots out of a disfigured board and some written questions.Here one has to be found out about his sharpness of brain.They are not tough and a person with average intelligence can do a good job of it provided he respects the time given to answer these calls.

c) Third is TAT..thematic Aptitude test : Here some real life photo clips are shown to the candidate on a screen.The clip will be there in front of the candidate for 30 seconds to observe the clip and identify the objects and the kind of situation pasted.....after that the candidate will be given 3 minutes to write the situation he observed in the clip.There will be 15 such clips to write the descriptions about.This is a very important test as lot many things are generated by an individual through what he makes out of that situation in the clip and how one describes the situation highlighting certain leadership qualities ABOUT HIM/HERSELF.

d) Last and not the least is the SRT...Situation reaction test: Here some situations are provided to the candidate on a piece of paper to have his say as to what he..the candidate will do if faced with a situation.....Like:'you are going with your sister walking in a isolated area.All of a sudden you come across two Dagger born goons who demand to hand over every thing you have else they will take away your sister...what will you do?".......There will be thirty such situations and one gives out his/her fears,apprehensions,priorities, presence of mind,attitude,boldness,fearlessness,calmness etc.....the qualities SSB is screening for.



Rest about GTO task in next post...Any one have any questions or additions to what i said above is welcome.....i will deliberate more on each test highlighted above during the discussions.

choudharyneelam
December 3rd, 2008, 03:45 PM
looking forward to your work guys :)
keep working hard.

The other two teams already started and ours also trying to match the same pace.

Nice to see people like you showing interest in the work :)

Wishing Goodluck to all the teams :)

jitendershooda
December 3rd, 2008, 04:03 PM
The other two teams already started and ours also trying to match the same pace.



Thats great Neelam, Carry on!!!

jitendershooda
December 3rd, 2008, 04:14 PM
After having cleared written exam ie UPSC one is called for SERVICES SELECTION BOARD interview..

Thanks a lot for your prompt initiative Dev Ji.

Dev Ji, ek ragni se "Karke Ghal tadapti chodi jyan kyona kadh legya" Mehar Singh ki to usmein Rajkishan ne jod rakhi thi ... ek premkaur ki chithi jib Mehar Singh dhore pachuci er wo ek aud ne jaa ke padhan lagya .... to aur rangroota ne gher liya ... Mehar Singh padh ke sunan lagya .... te nue boley ek nue nahi bhai ... GAA KI NE SUNA ....

To dev ji this way it will be another thread and the student or consumer will be getting things here and there. Here on this thread we are having teams and these teams are talking to themselves and in some way or the other whatever the approach they find good .... but output will be contribution of all ....BUT IN FULL FLEDGED DOCUMENT ...ready to use. Jaise Complete guide to a particular problem. Means GAA ki ne sunana padega :)

So it will be appreciated if you all among the team distribute/discuss the things and topics and come up with a nice one document containing n number of examples and answers best possible for them. Just like a virtual online book or training to them. Means the document would be like that after going through all of their queries got resolved and all the knowledge regarding how to prepare and what to prepare they got just like a BOOK.

Haan if you feel that before coming up with the final document for the same it will be better to have a thread then you can have one separate for it.
But final aim would be a complete output one stop guide .... please spare some time for the youngers by coordinating among the team and come up with a very nice full fledges document, time is no constraint but output matters a lot.

choudharyneelam
December 3rd, 2008, 05:13 PM
Thats great Neelam, Carry on!!!

:):):):):)

mittu
December 3rd, 2008, 05:58 PM
Nice to see people like you showing interest in the work :)



people like me...hehe :D :D

choudharyneelam
December 3rd, 2008, 06:29 PM
people like me...hehe :D :D

Yes, I had written.....PEOPLE LIKE U.....as you are showing good/healthy concerns :)

devdahiya
December 3rd, 2008, 06:35 PM
Thanks a lot for your prompt initiative Dev Ji.

Dev Ji, ek ragni se "Karke Ghal tadapti chodi jyan kyona kadh legya" Mehar Singh ki to usmein Rajkishan ne jod rakhi thi ... ek premkaur ki chithi jib Mehar Singh dhore pachuci er wo ek aud ne jaa ke padhan lagya .... to aur rangroota ne gher liya ... Mehar Singh padh ke sunan lagya .... te nue boley ek nue nahi bhai ... GAA KI NE SUNA ....

To dev ji this way it will be another thread and the student or consumer will be getting things here and there. Here on this thread we are having teams and these teams are talking to themselves and in some way or the other whatever the approach they find good .... but output will be contribution of all ....BUT IN FULL FLEDGED DOCUMENT ...ready to use. Jaise Complete guide to a particular problem. Means GAA ki ne sunana padega :)

So it will be appreciated if you all among the team distribute/discuss the things and topics and come up with a nice one document containing n number of examples and answers best possible for them. Just like a virtual online book or training to them. Means the document would be like that after going through all of their queries got resolved and all the knowledge regarding how to prepare and what to prepare they got just like a BOOK.

Haan if you feel that before coming up with the final document for the same it will be better to have a thread then you can have one separate for it.
But final aim would be a complete output one stop guide .... please spare some time for the youngers by coordinating among the team and come up with a very nice full fledges document, time is no constraint but output matters a lot.



Jitu any thing for our people........any thing.

mittu
December 3rd, 2008, 06:46 PM
Yes, I had written.....PEOPLE LIKE U.....as you are showing good/healthy concerns :)

Concern jesss, however being audience am more curious. i am pretty sure of quality of stuff you guys will come up with...just waiting to be amazed:)

stokas
December 13th, 2008, 12:20 AM
What's going on dear all!

Didn't get the point!

jitendershooda
December 23rd, 2008, 07:44 PM
There are three teams.

1) Anil Dalal:
Anil Dalal, Vijay Singh , Shweta Dhaka, Devender Kumar, Sumit Sehrawat, Braham Tewatia
TOPIC: Say No To Polythene

2) Samar Kadian:
Poonam Khokhar, Mini Chaudhary, Neelam Chaudhary, Samar Singh, Ramesh Lakra
TOPIC: Yet to be decided???

3) Jitender Takhar:
Jitender Takhar, Prashant Nauhar, Mukesh Kumar, Shobhit Deshwal, Satinder Goyat, Neetu Sherawat
TOPIC: Farmers in India : Act before they become rebel !!


4) Important Dates:

December 20: Date of material Submission
December 21: Start a Poll thread for members with the material
December 30: Last day of members poll
January 1: Results



:) We missed deadlines :confused:

Or some decision has been taken on back screen to extend the dates. It seems the case as nobody has replied of the teams or judges either.

Khair keep it up :)

Thanks a lot Dev Dahiya Ji .... hope the elders team will provide some example for the youngesters here too.

cooljat
December 24th, 2008, 10:59 AM
Bhai deadline is postponed to 31st Jan 2009. :)



:) We missed deadlines :confused:

Or some decision has been taken on back screen to extend the dates. It seems the case as nobody has replied of the teams or judges either.

Khair keep it up :)

Thanks a lot Dev Dahiya Ji .... hope the elders team will provide some example for the youngesters here too.

anilsinghd
January 6th, 2009, 07:54 PM
Bhai deadline is postponed to 31st Jan 2009. :)

Sorry Jitender bhai , i am out of internet since December first week !i will be back from 12th Jan onwards and will surely try and meet the 31st Jan Deadline.Thanks all ! Keep up the good work! :)

rajivsp
February 4th, 2009, 10:56 PM
Bhai deadline is postponed to 31st Jan 2009. :)

New deadline???
Members Poll???
Conclusion???