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VivekGathwala
December 23rd, 2008, 03:39 AM
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Respected members

After reading lots of thread on JATLAND

i still wont figure out what we guys doing ..after getting such a
gud platform i.e jatland

we people are just giving our views ..jinhe koi bhi kahi pe bhi use nahi kar raha ....vo views yahin threads main lock hoke reh jate hai

kyun na in sabhi views ko hum eksath kar ke kuch aisa shuru kare jisse hum kuch ..JAT clan ke liye sahi main kuch kar sake na ki unhe dobara lock kar de

aaj tak huumne jitne bhi views diye hai kahan kam aye hai ........?

mere khayal se kahi pe bhi nahi

agar hum social welfare ki baat karte hai too ...............vo bhi nahi kar pate ...

kyunki social welfare main bhi apko practically kuch karna padega

or karenge bhi kya ....jatoo ke bachoo ko padha denge/coaching de denge ......sab kuch kar denge fer bhi usko naukri to nahi dilva payenge or dilva bhi denge to kitno ko.........mushkil se 20 ko..usse jyada nahin .......or unke liye bhi 100 loge se request karni padegi


jab hume in sabhi batoo ka pata hai fir bhi hum pata nahi kis chej ki wait kar rahe hai ...........mujhe samajh main nahi aa raha jab itne padhe likhe jat aaj bhi bina naukri ke ghar baithe hai to un jataoo ka kya hoga jo hamare gaoon main hain unke ghar ......kaise chalte honge mujhe ye hi samajh main nahi aarahi

jab hamare pass man power ki kami nahi ,caliber ki kami nahi ,ideas ki kami nahi .. to hum kis chej ki wait kar rahe hai...

yahan par mere hisab se hazaroo IT ke bande hai or admi alag alag background se hai ............to yar make a bunch start your own venture ....u have knowledge .make your project .....finance through banks ....le do ram ka naam .................kaam te utna hi karna hai jitna kise or ke kare s ..to apana hi kar le to uska maja hi kuch or hai
or isi ke sahare hum kisi or jat ke balak ne moka de sakte hai


yahan ....... IT ,mangement ,law ,CA,Govt employ,doctors..businessman,media persons ,,pata nahi kya kya hai par kisiko koi matlab hi nahi ....sab apni dhunn ..main lage hue hai .........usne kya likh diya ......hunn ab isse acha likhna hai us post
kya yar matlab hum kahan hain .....soch kya rehgayi hai humariiii

dal ..roti chalti rahe baki sab thek hai ............kya thek hai ....dal roti to agar hum kuch bhi nahi karehnge to bhi khayengee
dal roti chod ke bhai kuch aisa kuch dekho jisse sabhi ka bhala hoo ......har admi ka .or tabhi hum social welfare bhi kar payenge jab humare pass kuch capital hoga

for example :25k salary hai

2-2.5k PF kat gaya

bike scooter bhi hai 4-5k ka tel hooogaya

agar ghar se bahar rehte hai too makan ka rent bhi dena 5-6k voo gaya

khana pina mila ke 5-6k yeh bhi gaye

mobile ka bill bhi aajata hai 2k

vohi 5 -6 hazar bachenge usme dekh loo admi kya social welfare karlega


kuch bhi nahi hai boss agar ek bar apni positive energy ko dedication ke sath utilise karenge to koi bhi hume jhuka nahi payega

or har feild main ...................JAT................alag se likha miilega

aaj ...har jagah har business main punjabi hai kyun ..........undhore ke copyrites s ke ..........par vo apna kam dedication or positive energy se karte hai or khane kamane ki sochte hai ..punjabiya ka balak ..12vi karte hi dukanaaa pe sales man ka kam kar de s ......ar mahre main te ki sa titi kehta hoo humne kime na kime te bechegaa ..nat te nat te ......bata do koi sa bhi nat ja too


Toh meri to ap sabhi se jugarish hai ki ........ek sath miljul ke kuch aisa karte hain ki sabhi dekhte rehjayeee .or bake hamre sath ..bahut hi respected seniors hai hume guide karne ke liye jinki guidelines ke bina hum adhoreeeee hain


sahi yar maja aajayegaa ek be try kar ke te dekh loo

BHAI JIS KISE KE SAMAJ ME BAAT AAVE N TO HI YAHAN LIKHIYOOO
KHAM KHAA PAGE MAT BHARIYOOOO



Dhanyevad sahit

Vivek Gathwala

vivekdh
December 23rd, 2008, 09:02 AM
bhai asal me kerna kya chata hai... har aadmi lead nahi ker sakta or har aadmi follow nahi ker sakta.
tuje yahan JL pe leader bhi bahut mil jayenge jinhe ye nahi pata ki kisse or kyu lead kerna hai. or mere jaise bahut se follower mil jayenge jinhe ye nahi pata ki kisse follow kerna hai.

or bhai bahut jat bhai hain jo already wo sab ker rahe hain jo tune aaj likha hai. ye sab chije collg time se hi suru ho jaati hain dost(muje sirf engineering kaa pata hai ) kuch log sath aate hain jinki soch 1 jaisi hotti hai or rasta pehchan ke chalna suru ker dete hain. bahut kuch josh ki yaa bahut jayda apne aap ko preshan karne ki jarorat nahi hotti issme.

bottom line ye hai ki agar tere pass koi idea hai to wo idea bata jo log tuj jaisa sochenge wo tere sath chal padenge.

jab bhi baat ki startup ki aati hai wo khabi ye dhyan me rakha ke suru nahi kiya gaya aaj tak ki kissi community ke bhale ke liye kerna hai for example DLF. i level tak pahunchne ke baad beshak ki bhale ki soch sakta hai.suru me to khud ke dubane ka darr hotta hai sabko

"aap marre to jag perlay"





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Respected members

After reading lots of thread on JATLAND

i still wont figure out what we guys doing ..after getting such a
gud platform i.e jatland

we people are just giving our views ..jinhe koi bhi kahi pe bhi use nahi kar raha ....vo views yahin threads main lock hoke reh jate hai

kyun na in sabhi views ko hum eksath kar ke kuch aisa shuru kare jisse hum kuch ..JAT clan ke liye sahi main kuch kar sake na ki unhe dobara lock kar de

aaj tak huumne jitne bhi views diye hai kahan kam aye hai ........?

mere khayal se kahi pe bhi nahi

agar hum social welfare ki baat karte hai too ...............vo bhi nahi kar pate ...

kyunki social welfare main bhi apko practically kuch karna padega

or karenge bhi kya ....jatoo ke bachoo ko padha denge/coaching de denge ......sab kuch kar denge fer bhi usko naukri to nahi dilva payenge or dilva bhi denge to kitno ko.........mushkil se 20 ko..usse jyada nahin .......or unke liye bhi 100 loge se request karni padegi


jab hume in sabhi batoo ka pata hai fir bhi hum pata nahi kis chej ki wait kar rahe hai ...........mujhe samajh main nahi aa raha jab itne padhe likhe jat aaj bhi bina naukri ke ghar baithe hai to un jataoo ka kya hoga jo hamare gaoon main hain unke ghar ......kaise chalte honge mujhe ye hi samajh main nahi aarahi

jab hamare pass man power ki kami nahi ,caliber ki kami nahi ,ideas ki kami nahi .. to hum kis chej ki wait kar rahe hai...

yahan par mere hisab se hazaroo IT ke bande hai or admi alag alag background se hai ............to yar make a bunch start your own venture ....u have knowledge .make your project .....finance through banks ....le do ram ka naam .................kaam te utna hi karna hai jitna kise or ke kare s ..to apana hi kar le to uska maja hi kuch or hai
or isi ke sahare hum kisi or jat ke balak ne moka de sakte hai


yahan ....... IT ,mangement ,law ,CA,Govt employ,doctors..businessman,media persons ,,pata nahi kya kya hai par kisiko koi matlab hi nahi ....sab apni dhunn ..main lage hue hai .........usne kya likh diya ......hunn ab isse acha likhna hai us post
kya yar matlab hum kahan hain .....soch kya rehgayi hai humariiii

dal ..roti chalti rahe baki sab thek hai ............kya thek hai ....dal roti to agar hum kuch bhi nahi karehnge to bhi khayengee
dal roti chod ke bhai kuch aisa kuch dekho jisse sabhi ka bhala hoo ......har admi ka .or tabhi hum social welfare bhi kar payenge jab humare pass kuch capital hoga

for example :25k salary hai

2-2.5k PF kat gaya

bike scooter bhi hai 4-5k ka tel hooogaya

agar ghar se bahar rehte hai too makan ka rent bhi dena 5-6k voo gaya

khana pina mila ke 5-6k yeh bhi gaye

mobile ka bill bhi aajata hai 2k

vohi 5 -6 hazar bachenge usme dekh loo admi kya social welfare karlega


kuch bhi nahi hai boss agar ek bar apni positive energy ko dedication ke sath utilise karenge to koi bhi hume jhuka nahi payega

or har feild main ...................JAT................alag se likha miilega

aaj ...har jagah har business main punjabi hai kyun ..........undhore ke copyrites s ke ..........par vo apna kam dedication or positive energy se karte hai or khane kamane ki sochte hai ..punjabiya ka balak ..12vi karte hi dukanaaa pe sales man ka kam kar de s ......ar mahre main te ki sa titi kehta hoo humne kime na kime te bechegaa ..nat te nat te ......bata do koi sa bhi nat ja too


Toh meri to ap sabhi se jugarish hai ki ........ek sath miljul ke kuch aisa karte hain ki sabhi dekhte rehjayeee .or bake hamre sath ..bahut hi respected seniors hai hume guide karne ke liye jinki guidelines ke bina hum adhoreeeee hain


sahi yar maja aajayegaa ek be try kar ke te dekh loo

BHAI JIS KISE KE SAMAJ ME BAAT AAVE N TO HI YAHAN LIKHIYOOO
KHAM KHAA PAGE MAT BHARIYOOOO



Dhanyevad sahit

Vivek Gathwala

devdahiya
December 23rd, 2008, 09:12 AM
Vivek, i can understand your frustrations but dear you are not alone to have felt that way.I find most of the members out here very sincere and eager to do something but the real problems are as under:

1) For any social movement there is a need for HONEST,SELFLESS and DEDICATED leadership which is very difficult to shape because for doing that one has to rise above the ATTA-NAMMAK responsibilities of the house which keep most of us tied down to the rope as these responsibilities might look menial but are most important and also when some one start doing something for society without shaping his/her own life and that of his/her family...people refuse to take that person seriously and hence things reach no where.

2) Also there is a great risk involved in taking up the crutches of responsibilities for the society(specially of our own Jats) in shape of being rebuked,humiliated and ruined.Though these fears may prove to be unfounded in long run but are a sure stumbling block for INITIATIVE of any kind from any quarter.

3) Most of the members out here are busy shaping their lives and are struggling in this complex world and hence do not have so much of time to devote for a social cause which is so time consuming and sapping at the same time.But i am more than sanguine that many of us are busy doing our duties in our own little way.

Cheers!

rakeshsehrawat
December 23rd, 2008, 09:33 AM
Vivek, i can understand your frustrations but dear you are not alone to have felt that way.I find most of the members out here very sincere and eager to do something but the real problems are as under:

1) For any social movement there is a need for HONEST,SELFLESS and DEDICATED leadership which is very difficult to shape because for doing that one has to rise above the ATTA-NAMMAK responsibilities of the house which keep most of us tied down to the rope as these responsibilities might look menial but are most important and also when some one start doing something for society without shaping his/her own life and that of his/her family...people refuse to take that person seriously and hence things reach no where.

2) Also there is a great risk involved in taking up the crutches of responsibilities for the society(specially of our own Jats) in shape of being rebuked,humiliated and ruined.Though these fears may prove to be unfounded in long run but are a sure stumbling block for INITIATIVE of any kind from any quarter.

3) Most of the members out here are busy shaping their lives and are struggling in this complex world and hence do not have so much of time to devote for a social cause which is so time consuming and sapping at the same time.But i am more than sanguine that many of us are busy doing our duties in our own little way.

Cheers!
Kaka ki baat kati sahi hai jab apna pet bhara hoga jab e kise ne roti dan di ja sake hai aade apne kama tein fursat to milti na jag ka bhala kyukar kara ja

Ek baat koye bhi bata dyo je jat ke chore ne 12vi karte hi keh dyo dukan mein lag jya ,ke jawab milega????? chalo lag bhi gaya to gal dega yo thode de hai yo nyu keh hai yo nyu kare hai.
aade dikkat bhot ghani hain ye dekhi suni nahi beeti baat hain ghar pe thali baithe chore gaam mein tein tha ke lyao ar donu od ki baat suno
ibe bhukh mari na aayee hai jammen aacha anaj de hai jis din jut lagenge us din log sikhenge
aaj bhi 70% chore 12vi karte nahi jo kar le hain wo motorcycle nikalwa ke pathya ke tel la ke gedi maran tein nyara kime kaam karte ho to batao

cheeze apne time se hongi Gadad ke uchle ber nahi paka karte halat badal rahe hain 20 saal lagenge sabki samajh mein aa jayega haan agar aapke pass resource hain aur time bhi to bhala karo LEKIN EK CHEEZ DHYAN RAKH KE KI BAAD MEIN AACHAI NAHI BURAI MILEGI AUR BARDAST KARNE KI HIMMAT RAKHNA:tamatar

saurabhjaglan
December 23rd, 2008, 10:35 AM
NA idhar ki na oodhar ki...
I have already started a Program to give Free trainings to Jat Engineer(fresher/Professionals).
Any one else who can support me???????
for more enquiry,Contact me directly:-9717197416

Regards,
Jaglan

( Doston yahan sab ke pas apni apni problems hain kuch ki financial,kuch ki social....but jisko kaam karna hai wo kaam karta hai..aur jisko bahane lagane hai wo bahane hi lagata hai....kisi ki behan,beti,bhai,ladke ki shadi ka bahana...kisi ka zyada busy hone ka bahana..Kis ka niught shift ka bahana..kis ka Salary constraint ka bahana....and as per girls ...oonka ladki hone ka bahana...kisi ka apni age ka bahana..kisi ka berozgaar hone ka bahana...)

downtoearth
January 16th, 2009, 08:00 PM
people start pondering over such issues after moving to overseas... jib aarey theyy jib issi sooch kyu nahi banti? ..sometimes i doubt if gandhi hadnt gone to abroad,india still must have been in chains;)...

gaganjat
January 21st, 2009, 10:20 PM
hahahahahahaha ghani kasooti baat maar gya. tera view jaroor kaam awegaa. very good observation


people start pondering over such issues after moving to overseas... jib aarey theyy jib issi sooch kyu nahi banti? ..sometimes i doubt if gandhi hadnt gone to abroad,india still must have been in chains;)...

VivekGathwala
January 21st, 2009, 10:49 PM
people start pondering over such issues after moving to overseas... jib aarey theyy jib issi sooch kyu nahi banti? ..sometimes i doubt if gandhi hadnt gone to abroad,india still must have been in chains;)...




hahahhaah taiii aleee m konya gaya kite ade hi .... adhe laan laga raha soon ..........te chintit mat hove ....


bhai sheoran m working here in indian running my own business ..ar manee t bhai sabki bhalaii khtr likhya tha ....................main t apna bhala karn laga raha soon ........bakii thare sabke upar


jai ram ji ki

VivekGathwala
January 21st, 2009, 10:51 PM
hahahahahahaha ghani kasooti baat maar gya. tera view jaroor kaam awegaa. very good observation



dhillo sahb ........yoo view te fuss gaya ..................sheoran ne likhya te pure current main tha .mian bhi likhya karooon par isne nue na bera tha ki main ade hi soon


.....te iska view or kisek kaam awega


apne nahi




pranam

downtoearth
January 21st, 2009, 11:06 PM
hahahhaah taiii aleee m konya gaya kite ade hi .... adhe laan laga raha soon ..........te chintit mat hove ....


bhai sheoran m working here in indian running my own business ..ar manee t bhai sabki bhalaii khtr likhya tha ....................main t apna bhala karn laga raha soon ........bakii thare sabke upar


jai ram ji kifer khagard ya location mein USA kyu bhar rehya hai?nways i appreciate ur concern for community...keep posting

ygulia
January 22nd, 2009, 07:48 AM
fer khagard ya location mein USA kyu bhar rehya hai?nways i appreciate ur concern for community...keep posting

Ye to sirf likhne(location) se hi aisa hua, agar hakikat mei chala gaya to pher te in idea ka bhandaar ho jyaga!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shyad ismei bhi kucch bhala ho jata(jats) ka..............

rakeshsehrawat
January 22nd, 2009, 09:34 AM
Bhai Vivek

Plan kya hai???? Kahan se suru karoge???? Karna kya hai?????Kahan se suru karoge??????

Bina Direction ke chal rahe ho pehle disha banao Aur chal do Agar disha sahi hogi, kaam sahi hoga to log apne aap jud jayenge yahan jatland pe aane ka bhi time nahi milega agar tum jo keh rahe ho wo karne chaloge otherwise ONE MORE PAGE WASTE

VivekGathwala
January 28th, 2009, 09:56 PM
Bhai Vivek

Plan kya hai???? Kahan se suru karoge???? Karna kya hai?????Kahan se suru karoge??????

Bina Direction ke chal rahe ho pehle disha banao Aur chal do Agar disha sahi hogi, kaam sahi hoga to log apne aap jud jayenge yahan jatland pe aane ka bhi time nahi milega agar tum jo keh rahe ho wo karne chaloge otherwise ONE MORE PAGE WASTE

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