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brahmtewatia
April 28th, 2009, 08:03 PM
religious intolerance nd fanaticism !... धार्मिक उन्माद !!!

where are we going ?
who is propagating this intolerance nd fanaticism?
what’s the common man stand ?
are hindu’s being sidelined in its own country?
… nd what are the possible solutions?

our independence came in 1947 on the gospel of hate tht swept the two new nations. overnight families tht had lived as friendly neighbors for decades in british india became mindless enemies in hindu india nd muslim pakistan… tht’s how it started, but the war nd the hatred tht was planted about 60+ years ago still grows nd India is still a divided nation. religious freedom in India offers a stinging image of a country suffering from communal divisions nd mob-inspired religious persecution, more often then not from politically motivated sickness nd thru well planned conspiracy of vested foreign interests.

starting from the partition of India, sikh riots of ‘84, burning alive of graham staines in ‘99, gujarat riots of ‘02, recent christian attacks in orissa, women assault in mangalore… the religious intolerance is growing day by day. organized groups claiming roots in religious ideologies have unleashed all pervasive fear of mob violence in many parts of the country.

it’s a timely reminder tht despite all the talk of a global India, religious tension may be as pervasive as ever, especially when political parties are vying for political power nd propagating this communal hatred on one pretext or other. this extraordinary preoccupation with tolerance encourages political leaders to peddle self-deception and self-delusion as realistic… not to talk of media, who’s only objective is to earn more TRP. the islamite media, leftist intellectuals nd alienated academicians seek refuge in pseudo secularism nd irrational tolerance nd use institutionalized tolerance as a recipe for moral uncertainty, forgetting our cultural past nd the deeds of enough good people, who stitched the whole 500 princely states into one india. they substitute meaningless, abstract, harmful ideas like tolerance, minority rights, world vision, etc for democracy nd justice to the extant tht the ethos nd values tht connect people together are now undergoing a grotesque distortion. in the process, the tolerant peace loving people ultimately lose their purpose, focus and unity.

civilized people are tolerant nd tht has been the benchmark of hindu ideology, throughout the ages. but tolerance as a virtue is not a priority for muslims or for any other community for tht matter. we shud not tolerate what is intolerable nd what is evil, but should dedicate ourselves to the values of liberty nd justice. peace, prosperity, justice nd civilization itself, can be achieved only by the refusal to tolerate evil. one shud tolerate different religious beliefs, but if such religious beliefs encourage smashing skyscrapers, killing innocent people, nd forcefully convert poor people, we shud not tolerate such dangerous belief system. pakistan is closing down madrasas but in India, they are not only encouraged but are also funded by our govt, to the extent of even according them the CBSE status… ridiculous!

to ensure our future, we shud realize the perils of tolerance. in the name of tolerance, we shud not allow Jihadi terrorists, communist fascists nd muslim fundamentalists to impose their intolerant ideology on our throat. it’s time to start rethinking things from the ground up nd it’s time to realize the limits of tolerance nd move away from moral paralysis. we must cultivate the spirit of tolerance in our hearts, but we shud not allow the policy of toleration to be exploited nd abused by fanatical sectarian groups which are in fact, subversive political movements in jihadi or ecclesiastical disguise.

thought: sikhs, (minority) despite of their highly condemned massacre in 1984 are still doing fine in indian mainstream. why is the problem ALWAYS with muslims nd now with christians?

shall appreciate the views of fellow members, with an aim to reach a common consensus, if at all we can !… wud also appreciate members to put forth their rational views nd not to drag the issue into an intra-party mudslinging.

skarmveer
April 29th, 2009, 10:55 AM
Iska mukhya karn hai alpsankhayak tustikarn jiskay karn hinduo key sath hamesha anyay hua hai ya yeun kahein kee hinduo ko kesee na kesee suvida say vanchit rakha gaya jo apsankhyako ko khulay aam dee gai. Hindou key dharmik hito ka kabhee dhayan nahi rakha gaya jabkee alsankhyako ko vishes suvidha dee gai jo kee hindou ko kanhee na kanhee peeda panhuchati hai. Agar is desh mein eak kanoon nahi banaya gaya to problems badhti hee jayagee or anttogatva hinduo ko uger roop dharn karna padeyga ya kahey hindo aatankvaad charm per pahunch jaiga.

Kesse bhee desh mein koi bhee kanoon dharm ya jaati aadharit nahi hona chahiyea or na hee is aadhar per koi suvidha dee jaani chahiyea anyatha hum khud aapney liyea gaddha khod rahey hai.

Nishantrathi82
April 29th, 2009, 11:38 AM
I wish k saaare dharam khaatamkaar ke Hindustani kaaahe jaaye sab aur god ke baat paaar 1 jagaha paar saaab dharam ke bhagwaan rakh doo aur issko saab poooj lo. Baaki kissse Dharam ka koi tyohaar ke chuuti naahe sab chuuti convert kaar do Country holiday me except 26th jan and 15th aug.
its not feasible but its the best way.

skarmveer
April 29th, 2009, 03:25 PM
Desh ko prathmikta bhee hindu hee deta hai baakee to bhai aapna desh hee nahi mantey isey.



I wish k saaare dharam khaatamkaar ke Hindustani kaaahe jaaye sab aur god ke baat paaar 1 jagaha paar saaab dharam ke bhagwaan rakh doo aur issko saab poooj lo. Baaki kissse Dharam ka koi tyohaar ke chuuti naahe sab chuuti convert kaar do Country holiday me except 26th jan and 15th aug.
its not feasible but its the best way.

ashokpaul
May 9th, 2009, 12:12 AM
Bhai dharam to ek hi hota hai. aur wo hai HUMANITY i.e. to stand for JUSTICE, ACTION aand Truth. aaur jo iske liye kaam karta hai wahi dharmik hai. iski badhotri ke liye prayash bhi karna chahiye. ise hi DHARMIK Unmaad kahate hain. Ye every human me hona chahiye. iske liye human kutch bhi karega.

rahi baat intolerance ki to jhooth, fareb, loot, gunda-gardi, aatankwad, maowad, kshetrawad ko kabhi tolerate nahi karna hi HUMANITY hai. ek bar tolerate kar liya to aapki TOLL-RATE badh sakti hai.

hazaron saal gulami bhul gaye kya?
apna education system fail kar diya? and u r tolerating!!!
Kola-Poojan bhul gaye kya?
kabhi vishwa vijeta bhartiye aaj sabse garib? tolerate
kabhi afganistan se barma aur aaj??? Tolerating
kabhi RAJA aur PRAJA, aaj LOOT-KHASOOT?? tolerating
Kabhi Mahila devi, aaj Bhrun-Hatya? Tolerating


Aur na jane kya- kya tolerate kar rahe hain apne log?????? aur aap intolerance ki baat kar rahe hain. itni tolerance to kayarta lagti hai. let our people march forward and move ahead to give the whole world the value system of HUMANITY not BUDJILI.

YUVAO, Naujawano aage badho Ishwar Hamare Saath Hai. Aao DHARAM(Humanity) ko implement karen.

To convert Human Resource into Human Being is most complex process.

aryasatyadev
May 12th, 2009, 08:00 PM
Indeed Dhram has raised an important issue but Ashok is also right that we should not be too much tolerating.......... we have to have a limit after we say that noe is the time we have to stand up and tell the tormentor that we are not ready to accept further humiliation and will not tolerate any further

skadian123
May 19th, 2009, 06:39 PM
What we see in the Swat region of Pakistan today - Jiziya being demanded and paid by the Sikhs and Hindus to the Taliban (Muslims). This has sanction of the Pakistan government which so willingly allowed Sharia law to be adopted official in the Swat region. A perfect example of religious intolerance and fanaticism with the result being that hundreds of sikh and hindu families migrating out of Swat and other NWFP areas of Pakistan and taking shelter in Gurudwaras and temples elsewhere.

The muslims in India in comparison enjoy a much better fate. They do not have equal but the first right to resources of the land as per our Hon'ble PM. Special funds have been allocated for the minorities to give them special treatment under the FIRST AMONG EQUALS policy of the Congress party. We have a special minorities ministry in the government and so many minority (upliftment) agencies and NGOs. It has been my personal experience to see more than adequate (in relation to the population proportion) muslim representation in business, service, agriculture, etc.

The government can raze temples at the drop of a hat in the name of development but the very thought of razing a mosque gives it shivers for obvious reasons. First of all the police would be reluctant to raid a muslim dominated area for criminals/terrorists and even if under pressure it does so, it would require so many levels of clearances in the name of communal peace and harmony.

In light of the above examples, I would leave it to my fellow readers to decide as to who is communal, who practices intolerance and who is a fanatic.

amans
May 20th, 2009, 12:13 AM
What we see in the Swat region of Pakistan today - Jiziya being demanded and paid by the Sikhs and Hindus to the Taliban (Muslims). This has sanction of the Pakistan government which so willingly allowed Sharia law to be adopted official in the Swat region. A perfect example of religious intolerance and fanaticism with the result being that hundreds of sikh and hindu families migrating out of Swat and other NWFP areas of Pakistan and taking shelter in Gurudwaras and temples elsewhere.

The muslims in India in comparison enjoy a much better fate. They do not have equal but the first right to resources of the land as per our Hon'ble PM. Special funds have been allocated for the minorities to give them special treatment under the FIRST AMONG EQUALS policy of the Congress party. We have a special minorities ministry in the government and so many minority (upliftment) agencies and NGOs. It has been my personal experience to see more than adequate (in relation to the population proportion) muslim representation in business, service, agriculture, etc.

The government can raze temples at the drop of a hat in the name of development but the very thought of razing a mosque gives it shivers for obvious reasons. First of all the police would be reluctant to raid a muslim dominated area for criminals/terrorists and even if under pressure it does so, it would require so many levels of clearances in the name of communal peace and harmony.

In light of the above examples, I would leave it to my fellow readers to decide as to who is communal, who practices intolerance and who is a fanatic.

1984 thing was sanction coming from top? tehelka said - big tree falls makes big sound - something like that so said rajiv gandhi. so congress is communal
modi - gujarat riots bjp - same thing, advani goes to pakistan pays tribute to jinnah. where is that ram temple in ayodhaya that bjp promised? after winning they conviniently forget all about that.
both parties communal - to get votes.
muslims were given a homeland they should have left for pakistan and their religion is not yet compatible with democracy and other religions. But can you remove 160 million of them now?

brahmtewatia
June 5th, 2009, 08:50 PM
Arrested Lashkar commander Mohammad Omar Madni has been sent to police custody till June 19.

The 50-year-old Pakistani national, suspected to be a "key recruiter" for Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) in India and Nepal, was arrested from the national capital on Thursday evening, with officials seizing some currency, an identity card and driving license from him.

The Delhi Police have said that the arrested Pakistani national is an aide of Jamaat-ud-Dawa chief Hafiz Mohd Saeed.

Madni was caught by Delhi Police's Anti-Terror Wing 'Special Cell' near Qutub Minar in Mehrauli.

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another afzal guru caught... the religion of peace STRIKES again !

but we are tolerant... we will feed him in our jails, hamara dil bahut bada hai... we are not fanatics.

skadian123
June 5th, 2009, 09:43 PM
Welcome to the Islamic Republic of India!!

Well Brahm, what is said above is not far from reality. In my own locality not very far from where I live, there was a dilapidated barrack style mosque. One fine day while passing by, I was surprised to see the transformation of that barrack into a modern multistoreyed building housing the same mosque and furnished with the latest amenities including ACs. And just today, while passing through the same road, on seeing the countless bearded, skull cap bearing and afghan suit wearing men, I COULD CLEARLY FORESEE THE PICTURE WHEN THEY WOULD STOP ALL TRAFFIC ON THE VERY SAME ROAD IN ORDER TO OFFER NAMAZ as is the case with many areas adjoining mosques in other parts of the country. In the name of maintaining peace (Buying peace at the cost of national security) no questions were asked as to from where did the money come from for this extravagant and lavish building and that too all of a sudden.

We have voted in the Congress party and the show has now only begun. There is lots more to come.

In the rule of the Congress party:
a) Muslims are being provided reservation in jobs and education in a proportion more than their current population number. (AFTER ALL, THEY HAVE THE FIRST RIGHT OVER THE RESOURCES OF THIS COUNTRY - THEY ARE MORE INDIAN THAN THE REST).
b) Afzal Guru is given a new lease of life despite being handed out death penalty by the Supreme Court.
c) Prime accused of Mumbai blasts goes scot free.
d) There is no talk of Uniform Civil Code as envisioned in the Constitution.
e) The terrorists strike at will whenever and wherever they feel like.
f) Dons like Dawood and Anees Ibrahim are sitting comfortably in our neigbhouring country while still actively and successfully involved in their clandestine activities like terrorism and extortion in India. Yet we will have friendly relations with that neighbouring country.
g) Not much effort is being put in to bring back the country's money stashed away in tax and black money havens which clearly shows that the political masters (mainly Congress) have a big stake in it.

The Congress party talks of development. What development is it?? The inflation rate falling to below 1% JUST before elections. It's all manipulation. But we are going to buy it because Congress is now led by the new age thugs who are not only YOUNG but also EDUCATED and hence better equipped to make their way through the maze of corruption and nepotism and better able adapt to it.

Well, what good would this development be (if at all we can call it development when the common man goes hungry because of exhorbitant and uncontrolled prices of essential commodities including food) when the country would go to the dogs...

Once again, welcome to Islamic Republic of India