Which one is better?

[annch]

Which one do you think is better- to be jack of all trades or be master of one?

[Nishantrathi82]

Which one do you think is better- to be jack of all trades or be master of one?

Being Master is always good but jack of all trade can also survive.

[cooljat]

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The best bet is ' Jack of all trades but master of one ' !! :)

[malikdeepak1]

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The best bet is ' Jack of all trades but master of one ' !! :)



Bhai jeete jo aaj ke tam me survive kare se wo hai "Jack of all trades but master of more than one" :)

[rajivsp]

The most appropriate option is missing here most of the JLders comes in this category.

Master of All Jack of None.

[brahmtewatia]

but i thot the saying goes... "jack of all trades, master of none"
...
anyways if my assumption is correct, i feel tht a jack of all trades may also be a master of integration, as the individual knows enough from many learned trades nd skills to be able to bring their disciplines together in a practical manner, BUT is not a specialist. such a person is known as a polymath or a renaissance man... a typical example being leonardo da vinci.
...
following author's version of the saying >>> my vote goes for "jack of all trades"

[anilsinghd]

The most appropriate option is missing here most of the JLders comes in this category.

Master of All Jack of None.

Can you prove your statement? If that was not in the sarcastic sense I would bet my money on the contrapositive of your statement.

Thank you,
Anil

[anilsinghd]

Which one do you think is better- to be jack of all trades or be master of one?


Context please?

If its about professional thingy , I would go with Jack of all but master of one/two may be.

You got to have something unique to kind of survive and be master of everything that comes your way to flourish.

I was discussing randomly with my friends when one of them stated that modern day companies have too much money and they hire the best guys to do even the menial work and i kind of agree! I see PHDs doing petty coding work and for work which a couple of years experienced engineering graduate can easily do , they will hire someone who has a Masters or 15 + eyars experience and still they succeed in producing the most crappier of solutions.
I personally feel my creativity and knowledge has infact gone down while two years on job , but I have gained a lot on communication skills , managing expectations , talking crap , giving lectures on vision ( which does not exist :p :D ) and doing a lot of blah blah.

[vineetaenator]

i guess watever u have learned is because you faced with demands and growing pressure :) and everyone does to survive in job.by the way don't loose ur heart because u hav large platform to show ur creativity . shortage is only perception everything is abandont :)

have even more creativity,even more happiness,even more joy...... tc




Context please?

If its about professional thingy , I would go with Jack of all but master of one/two may be.

You got to have something unique to kind of survive and be master of everything that comes your way to flourish.

I was discussing randomly with my friends when one of them stated that modern day companies have too much money and they hire the best guys to do even the menial work and i kind of agree! I see PHDs doing petty coding work and for work which a couple of years experienced engineering graduate can easily do , they will hire someone who has a Masters or 15 + eyars experience and still they succeed in producing the most crappier of solutions.
I personally feel my creativity and knowledge has infact gone down while two years on job , but I have gained a lot on communication skills , managing expectations , talking crap , giving lectures on vision ( which does not exist :p :D ) and doing a lot of blah blah.

[vineetaenator]

Which one do you think is better- to be jack of all trades or be master of one?

if we think broadly and want to be an enlightened person master of one is enough :) after that everything become aligned......its basically for Gyani ppl.... and for others who don't understand this i guess to be jack of all trades is better....

[narendra81]

personnally I wish I could be jack of all trades... that satisfies me a lot (as it includes learning new things in entirely diffrent area everytime).
But to survive professionally, USP is much more needed. So master of at least one is a need :)

[annch]

The context is our professional life.

When I am a jack of all trades, my growth prospects are limited/delayed as I would need to compete with master(s) in each trade.

When I become a master of one/two, soon my HR asks me to train my back-up, somebody to take my place when I move up the next rung. My back up arrives promptly, and training starts immediately....however, I am still waiting for a sucker higher up the foodchain, who's hungry for growth, and who can be conned into believeing that taking a backup is part of his profile and opportunity for growth.

The point is, a rolling stone never gathers moss, but then no one would allow me to grow roots and become stronger either. Do the members agree?

Context please?

[sidchhikara]

Weird discussion:confused:

[sunillathwal]

Which one is better

Be jack of all trades
OR
Be master of one
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Koye sa possible naa hai in dono mein te. Hence, theek Uttar is None of the uppar aale. :D

[rajivsp]

Can you prove your statement? If that was not in the sarcastic sense I would bet my money on the contrapositive of your statement.

Thank you,
Anil

Let me try ( and its also true for all Indians )
1)
Al Barouni, the famous Arabic logician and traveler of the 10th century, who spent about 30 years in India from 997 AD to around 1027 AD. According to him, during his visit, most Indian pundits considered it below their dignity even to hold arguments with him. In fact, on a few occasions when a pundit was willing to listen to him, and found his arguments to be very sound, he invariably asked Barouni: which Indian pundit taught these smart things!

2) Indians done a very good job in IT and recognized by the whole world. Many times I have seen Indians are ready to accept any kind of job whether they know it or not. And not only they accept the job but do it in perfect manner.

3)
Here on JL most of the people are ready to express their opinions in each and every thread whereas topics discussed here on varied subjects.

[poonam]

Master of one!

[Nishantrathi82]

Context please?

If its about professional thingy , I would go with Jack of all but master of one/two may be.



If that will be in the option i surely would choose that one.

But now i will be glad to become like Sachin in cricket as Master or Vishvanathan in Chess or Tigerwoods in Golf and so on. Being a master is always great in addition u can have some other skills not as a master but with little knowledge but on any day i would like to be master of 1 trade rather than jack of all.

[akshaymalik84]

As per me if you are a jack of all trades, you are a master of none.


“The master of a single trade can support a family. The master of seven trades cannot support himself. The wind is never for the sailor who knows not to what port he is bound.”



I always like this quote and prefer to be the Master of One.

[richi]

Being jack of all trades and being master of one are the characteristics depending upon the level of perfection one sets for one self and in terms of today's increasing globalization it's must to keep oneself abreast with things going on in every area but yes one can streamline oneself to one area of specialization where one can really become an erudite.

Once we know little about everything and too much abt something we are a scholar and that is exactly something more conspicious that marks our identity and makes us recognizable by people on a large scale!!!

[brahmtewatia]

i feel tht a jack of all trades may also be a master of integration, as the individual knows enough from many learned trades nd skills to be able to bring their disciplines together in a practical manner, BUT is not a specialist. such a person is known as a polymath or a renaissance man... a typical example being leonardo da vinci.
the jack of all trades maximizes an individual’s peak experiences in life nd he learns to enjoy the pursuit of excellence unrelated to material gain, all while finding the few things he is truly uniquely suited to dominate. it’s more fun, in the most serious existential sense.

on the contrary…

any path that narrows future possibilities may become a lethal trap. humans are not threading their way through a maze… they scan a vast horizon filled with unique opportunities. the narrowing viewpoint of the maze should appeal only to creatures with their noses buried in the sand <<< this goes for those who want to be master of one… guess cannot explain myself more in bare minimal words. i would like all those self-proclaimed “masters” to list at least one trade/discipline where they really consider themselves to be masters.

in a world of dogmatic specialists, it’s the >>> generalist <<< who ends up running the show… this is a FACT, not an assumption.

[Nishantrathi82]

Which one do you think is better- to be jack of all trades or be master of one?


i would like all those self-proclaimed “masters” to list at least one trade/discipline where they really consider themselves to be masters.




Sir g i think Anjoo g asked our view it doesn't mean that people who are in favour of Master of one in real life they r masters i think:rolleyes:. And even i wonder if there is anyone who is jack of all trades?
But i have pointed out whom we can consider as masters of 1 trade and i like to be them thats my wish only. Like Tendulkar, Tigerwoods, Aryabhat and so on.

[anilsinghd]

Let me try ( and its also true for all Indians )
1)
Al Barouni, the famous Arabic logician and traveler of the 10th century, who spent about 30 years in India from 997 AD to around 1027 AD. According to him, during his visit, most Indian pundits considered it below their dignity even to hold arguments with him. In fact, on a few occasions when a pundit was willing to listen to him, and found his arguments to be very sound, he invariably asked Barouni: which Indian pundit taught these smart things!

2) Indians done a very good job in IT and recognized by the whole world. Many times I have seen Indians are ready to accept any kind of job whether they know it or not. And not only they accept the job but do it in perfect manner.

3)
Here on JL most of the people are ready to express their opinions in each and every thread whereas topics discussed here on varied subjects.



Sorry for sounding rude on this , but my answer to all of the above is :


SO ?

What I mean is that it still does not prove anything to me. I think it would be person speicific to if he is master of all or none or etc , generalising is too difficult. :)

I would agree with you that the sharpness and the work ethics of Indians make them preferable to any manager in some jobs ( IT , quant etc ).

[anilsinghd]

The context is our professional life.



Kind of knew that , still wanted to calrify.

Well let me put some real life examples for the discussion to progress.

I choose 3 persons from the organisation I am working in. A , B , C.

Profiles:
A is 16 years on job , jack of all and master of most(infact all) , really admired everywhere in the firm , he is an SVP. From top down , he reports to an EVP who reports to Tech Head(MD).

B is an SVP , 11 years on job , master of 1-2 , does not involve himself in anything else. He reports directly to Tech Head.

C is 9 years on job , jack of all , master of none, very good at coordinating , finding people who can do the job for him. He is an EVP andd reports to Tech Head.

In terms of position: C > B > A
In terms of work/knowledge : A > B > C.

and to substantiate what Brahm said , it is the "generalist" C which runs the show! :)

Probably that gives you some hints on what do you need to do ? :)

[anilsinghd]

I agree with USP and also with the "Generalist", that is why i said , I would prefer master of one(few) and jack of all.

[rajivsp]

Sorry for sounding rude on this , but my answer to all of the above is :


SO ?

What I mean is that it still does not prove anything to me. I think it would be person speicific to if he is master of all or none or etc , generalising is too difficult. :)

I would agree with you that the sharpness and the work ethics of Indians make them preferable to any manager in some jobs ( IT , quant etc ).

I don't see any rudeness in your answer. And we can not generalize things because each and everyone is different from others. When two real brothers are not same how can we say something for everybody. But still I have feeling ( may be again fail to convince) people here in India know ( or just pretend) tooo much about everything and very reluctant to listen other's opinions - Masters of all trades why to listen ( My personal feeling ) .

[gaganjat]

very silly question :D its like asking what do u prefer legs or hands

everyone knw a bit about smething or they can always knw a bit if they r interested nd everyone knows lot more than a bit about something.

[rkumar]

Umm...interesting question...

be a jack who can convince anyone to be master of any trade.... LOL

RK^2

[rajivsp]

Umm...interesting question...

be a jack who can convince anyone to be master of any trade.... LOL

RK^2
Great Sir and that Jack is the Real Master of All Masters.

[gaganjat]

jack arse master arse hahahaha

this ques says r u jack arse or master arse hehehwhowhwohehewhoohahaha

[cooljat]

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Bhai Gunny, how many Beers you gulped today? ;)

Cheers!


jack arse master arse hahahaha

this ques says r u jack arse or master arse hehehwhowhwohehewhoohahaha

[urmiladuhan]

but then no one would allow me to grow roots and become stronger.[/QUOTE]

Hello Anju,

May I ask how does the answer to the question (Jack of all Trades vs. Master of One) help you deal with the actual issue at hand i.e., quoted above ? I see a mismatch here.

Perhaps a more appropriate question would be:
What is it that will allow me to grow roots and become stronger in an organization?

Asking the right question is important to finding the right answer.

Cheers and all the best to you!

[urmiladuhan]

Oh Wow! I see an opportunity for a starting an interesting new thread. Perhaps I should do it.

[annch]

Urmila ji,

Appreciate your comment and guidance, thank you.

I just presented one of many scenarios while explaining the context to carry the discussion forward.

Taking cue from your post, please allow me to rephrase-
"What is it that will allow me to grow roots and become stronger in an organization- be a jack of all trades or a master of one?"

Regards
Anju

[annch]

Gagan ji,
so, which one do you think is better? or is there no difference?


jack arse master arse hahahaha

this ques says r u jack arse or master arse hehehwhowhwohehewhoohahaha

[urmiladuhan]

Gagan ji,
so, which one do you think is better? or is there no difference?

__________________________________________________ ___---

A new thread related to the query has been started. You may find it helpful. Cheers!

[Samarkadian]

I guess one goes from being 'jack-of-all-trades' to being an 'expert'[ Master as a word exist in degrees only because its relative] in growing. First stage helps in learning and second one helps in strengthening your roots. First stage throws ideas/thoughts/insights/ about one's 'Naturaly gifted capablity'. From generalisation to differentiation. Its inside out. I excluded the 'genius'.

[sandeepkadian05]

Actually there is nobody in the world who is a jack of all trades, It is an expression often used but there isn't a human being in this world capable of knowing something about everything so your question becomes kind of redundant. It is more a figure of speech and that's it.

[sidchhikara]

Could the thread starter please give real example's of jack of all trades and master etc..?
Orrrr .. don't bother ... it does'nt matter

[rocky0036]

Life isn't about trying to be an expert in everything.
It's about being an expert in one thing
and sharing it to others.

[daivischahal]

ram-ram everybody

i think it totally depends on a person's nature whether s/he want to become jack of all trades or master of one........some people find it interesting to explore new things, whereas other want to know everything about a single "entity or object" it is also situation specific that which one is better....
take the example of IAS exam .....only those persons clear the exams who have a thorough knowledge of all their subjects , they cannot clear the exam by mastering only one subject......on the other hand to prepare for their exams they need a person or tutor who is master of that subject........
so we cannot compare which one is better.......it is my personal interest which make one better than the other and for me only , not for .others......

and for me, being master of one is better than jack of all.

[mann123]

Jack of All but Master of One can easily survive and proved atleast in IT in this recession.

[sandeepkadian05]

Could the thread starter please give real example's of jack of all trades and master etc..?
Orrrr .. don't bother ... it does'nt matter

Exactly....

[lalit_nashier]

If question was - Do you want to glue to one thing or want to try out many different things?

I am pretty sure, all would have said - I am going to try this that and whatever. ;)
Everybody is doing things more than one ... :)

As someone said in previous reply - What is the context?

Are we talking about having different professions?
Who wants to have many different professions at same time? (Some do, I know)

If it's about my profession, so sure I want to be master of one to secure
my job and jack of whatever comes in way - it makes me competitive.

In your firm, 99% times you're just stuck with one thingy [may be one or two more :)] Even though you're not master ;)
As an example: Is someone doing HR job and Engineering job at same time? I don’t think so.
Are you managing many projects and also doing programming in many different languages as time allows?
If yes then is it called jack of all trades? I don’t think so.

And how many are here who changed their profession or willing to? Not many.
If yes, then be prepared to be jack of trades those are required in that profession (probably to start)
and try to master same (sure to survive).

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Other then job/profession

I want to do many different things (have a long list).
And whatever I do, I try to master 'em.
(Relatively) - Enough to make me competitive and that satisfy my self.

So try different things [friendly advice - don't apply it to everything ;) :) hahaha],
it keeps your brain active, and do it as long as you are not satisfied with your performance.
Though, as you move forward you will find someone who knows something more than you.

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Someone has said in above replies: Keep discussing, it doesn’t matter. :)



cheers .................. :)

[VivekGathwala]

black jack :cool:

[gaganjat]

jisne thread start kiya usne na to poll kiya na khud bataya ki kya accha hai

nahi pata tha islie poocha ya islie poocha ki ye pata lagana hai ki jo pata hai vo sahi pata hai ya galat hehehehewhowhwowhohehewha:tamatar

[urmiladuhan]

jisne thread start kiya usne na to poll kiya na khud bataya ki kya accha hai
:tamatar


I think you maybe referring to the thread started by me.
Conducting a poll is not a requirement for starting a new thread. Please let me know if a question addressed directly to me has not been answered. Cheers!

[sidchhikara]

I think you maybe referring to the thread started by me.
Conducting a poll is not a requirement for starting a new thread. Please let me know if a question addressed directly to me has not been answered. Cheers!


Hahaha !! That post sounds like an email I might get from Human Resources.

[gaganjat]

Dear Meeloo 13/11/2009 Friday

asha karta hu wahan sab kushal mangal hoga yaha bhi sab theek-thaak hai.
mausam garam hone lag gaya hai wahan thanda hone lag gaya hoga. kyo kyo kyo?

i was talking about the person who started this thread. she didnt poll or given her views about the topic she is discussing here.

lekin poochne ke liye shukrayia. u must be really keen to do things at work and always ready to take initiative. i can figure tat out:) sabash bete.

its really fills me with joy when i see our kids so alert

Yours

Gagan Uncle



I think you maybe referring to the thread started by me.
Conducting a poll is not a requirement for starting a new thread. Please let me know if a question addressed directly to me has not been answered. Cheers!

[annch]

Gagan ji,
Nyuh samajh lyo ki jawab bera nahin tha, issiliye yeh sawal poochya.

jisne thread start kiya usne na to poll kiya na khud bataya ki kya accha hai

nahi pata tha islie poocha ya islie poocha ki ye pata lagana hai ki jo pata hai vo sahi pata hai ya galat hehehehewhowhwowhohehewha:tamatar

[urmiladuhan]

Hahaha !! That post sounds like an email I might get from Human Resources.

Human Resources are also allowed to be funny :)
Good to see you got a laugh out of the post.

[urmiladuhan]

Dear Meeloo 13/11/2009 Friday

mausam garam hone lag gaya hai wahan thanda hone lag gaya hoga.



Right!- Christmas is in Summers in the Southern Hemisphere.

[gaganjat]

bilkul sahi ! kaise pata laga?


Right!- Christmas is in Summers in the Southern Hemisphere.

[urmiladuhan]

bilkul sahi ! kaise pata laga?

This kind of information one usually learns in school. Are you not aware, "Country Boy"?

[gaganjat]

iskool ??? mai to Nand lal Daya Ram ji(in short ND Guides ) ka dhanyawaad karna chaunga jinhone 500-500 page ki kitabo ko chota karke 50 page ki 'key' (kunji) banayi na tai mhare jisse gaam mai kheti kar rhe hote.

i saved so many trees and i m proud of it. I tried not to buy books nd never wasted any paper for doing classwork or homework or making notes nd all that crap.

ND Guide/key/kunji recycled paper se banayi jati hai aur bahut hi kam page hote hai.

meeloo tu padh tai li environment ki tanne issi tissi kar di




This kind of information one usually learns in school. Are you not aware, "Country Boy"?

[urmiladuhan]

meeloo tu padh tai li

I don't think learning ever ends for a curious mind.

[gaganjat]

An-joo jee , jawab hai ki 'jack of all trades bhadiya sai'



Gagan ji,
Nyuh samajh lyo ki jawab bera nahin tha, issiliye yeh sawal poochya.

[gaganjat]

kitne samajdar ho aap:)

vaise baat gudgamme ki ho rhi thi aap andhra pradesh pauch ge


I don't think learning ever ends for a curious mind.

[VivekGathwala]

iskool ??? mai to Nand lal Daya Ram ji(in short ND Guides ) ka dhanyawaad karna chaunga jinhone 500-500 page ki kitabo ko chota karke 50 page ki 'key' (kunji) banayi na tai mhare jisse gaam mai kheti kar rhe hote.

i saved so many trees and i m proud of it. I tried not to buy books nd never wasted any paper for doing classwork or homework or making notes nd all that crap.

ND Guide/key/kunji recycled paper se banayi jati hai aur bahut hi kam page hote hai.

meeloo tu padh tai li environment ki tanne issi tissi kar di
hahahaha gagane-kasuti yad divayiii ND ki kunjiyaaan ki !!

[cooljat]

LOL :D RFLO :D:D ..

No offence to anyone but Gunny bhai's unique sense of humor gave me laughter attack, n' on a serious note, he got a point. Environmentalist should learn from him. ;)

hahahahaha ... u made my day brother :)


iskool ??? mai to Nand lal Daya Ram ji(in short ND Guides ) ka dhanyawaad karna chaunga jinhone 500-500 page ki kitabo ko chota karke 50 page ki 'key' (kunji) banayi na tai mhare jisse gaam mai kheti kar rhe hote.

i saved so many trees and i m proud of it. I tried not to buy books nd never wasted any paper for doing classwork or homework or making notes nd all that crap.

ND Guide/key/kunji recycled paper se banayi jati hai aur bahut hi kam page hote hai.

meeloo tu padh tai li environment ki tanne issi tissi kar di

[deepshi]

iskool ??? mai to Nand lal Daya Ram ji(in short ND Guides ) ka dhanyawaad karna chaunga jinhone 500-500 page ki kitabo ko chota karke 50 page ki 'key' (kunji) banayi na tai mhare jisse gaam mai kheti kar rhe hote.

i saved so many trees and i m proud of it. I tried not to buy books nd never wasted any paper for doing classwork or homework or making notes nd all that crap.

ND Guide/key/kunji recycled paper se banayi jati hai aur bahut hi kam page hote hai.

meeloo tu padh tai li environment ki tanne issi tissi kar di

jeez...Country boy..
haha...LMAO..

Gold!

[urmiladuhan]

vaise baat gudgamme ki ho rhi thi aap andhra pradesh pauch ge


Your father- in- law is quite fond of you!
How's your Mother-in-law doing?

[gaganjat]

chori tai bata de kun sai ? ke address sai meri sasurad ka?? manne ib tahi bera bhi konya ar tanne father in law ar mother in law bhi bana diye.

where did that come from anyway...was tat a joke...:(



Your father- in- law is quite fond of you!
How's your Mother-in-law doing?

[Nishantrathi82]

I think for any kind of one to one conversation there is 1 more option is available i.e Visitor message and i think that's a better option rather than doing of thread.

[gaganjat]

stop talking like a headmistress of a boarding school.

jis insaan ko jante nahi ho use seedha visitor message bhejdo? befaltu mai kyo beech mai aake tang ada raha hai.






I think for any kind of one to one conversation there is 1 more option is available i.e Visitor message and i think that's a better option rather than doing of thread.

[Nishantrathi82]

stop talking like a headmistress of a boarding school.

jis insaan ko jante nahi ho use seedha visitor message bhejdo? befaltu mai kyo beech mai aake tang ada raha hai.

Sir apka naam naahe liya tha maine, lagta hai aap he defaulter ho :D
Manners nahe hai toooo pls don't comment on me i request :cool:

[trueblueindian]

sorry if its a repetition as i could not find time to go through whole of discussion ..

but what if suddenly the "MASTER OF ONE TRADE" finds himself out of demand, therefore in my opinion being BEING A JACK OF ALL TRADES IS BETTER ANY DAY

[deepshi]

precisely!

stop talking like a headmistress of a boarding school.

jis insaan ko jante nahi ho use seedha visitor message bhejdo? befaltu mai kyo beech mai aake tang ada raha hai.

[sidchhikara]

stop talking like a headmistress of a boarding school.

jis insaan ko jante nahi ho use seedha visitor message bhejdo? befaltu mai kyo beech mai aake tang ada raha hai.

Keep posting here Gagan, this discussion is way more fun than the unoriginal thread topic.

[sudeepdular]

[QUOTE=anjoo;230907]Urmila ji,

Appreciate your comment and guidance, thank you.

I just presented one of many scenarios while explaining the context to carry the discussion forward.

Taking cue from your post, please allow me to rephrase-
"What is it that will allow me to grow roots and become stronger in an organization- be a jack of all trades or a master of one?"

Regards
Anju


With reference to ur highlighted quote…the most successful professionals whom do we see on top ladder share some common traits….

Aggression or more precisely assertiveness….how confident & impressive you are while sending your message across when you speak…some persons have authoritative voice…..Mel Gibson, Jack Nicholson, Morgan freeman….who made ppl to listen them… that’s where ur superior will notice your potential.

Organizational capabilities……are you able to organize a team of ppl with a vision to take process forward…..can motivate them…isn’t these leadership quality….now how do we find whether we are leader or not….its born trait…right from school & college…some ppl have great urge to lead…they like to give command rather than being directed…whether they are in school or political affair…so same in organization too…these some ppls lead whole bunch of laid backs…… you will find many who just spent substantial amount of time on one designation only without the urge of advancement of their career…the only thing they can think of putting paper and switch to others firm at little higher compensation without taking more responsibility.

I see so many ppl …who just afraid of taking more responsibilities…afraid to face challenges since they are so get used of comfort level…now when management has to choose one person among so many…how will they select right candidate….they are likely to select a person who stands out from crowd….who is master of one bt jack of all trades…. My VP who is a CA is master in his own accounting word…bt what made him successful is his diverse knowledge of finance & banking…he understand technology…has tremendous organizational & interpersonal skills….

Now some possible test of one’s own capabilities…..takes some hypothetical situation….


There is an event organized where your process needs to be presented in front of large audience….consisting top management…your manager says to the team….who will take up this responsibility to present…on hearing this everybody looks at each other’s face….heart beat is well above the average.. some may be praying don’t look at me sir.… plz…
And very few were waiting for this opportunity to come to their lap and they say yes I will do it….how proactive you are in solving a problem…or discounting an opportunity in your favor…luck is when your preparation along with capabilities meets with opportunity….

One team of foreign delegate is coming…who will take the charge of their stay…their timely completion of schedules etc etc…that taste ur organizational skills…
The main difference between a leader & a manager is.. leader set an example to motivate their team to take them to the right path….and manager just control the activities….

On an average for every 10 to 15 persons one leader is being chosen depending on the headcounts…everybody cant be a leader…..ppl who crystal clear about their potential eventually become successful in their own domain and keep growing without anyone’s advise….

I find the “fearlessness” the utmost virtue one can ever possess…did you hear this word “I am fearless”… how dangerous or progressive one can be with this trait by utilizing it at right direction.

By having just expert knowledge one can only become an accountant or programmer….not the CEO….i am sure the person who takes a call of reconstruction or merger or any organizational change is master of one bt jack of all trades… after all a good ear, a good mouth and a good heart is what that makes the difference… did i forget good brain :)

सोजन्य - श्री श्री सुदीपाचार्य

[urmiladuhan]

..was tat a joke...:(

Oh you look sad- should I not have brought up the subject of Mother in law?! There are lots of joke on the subject if that could cheer you up :)

[urmiladuhan]

[QUOTE=anjoo;230907]Urmila ji


With reference to ur highlighted quote…the most successful professionals whom do we see on top ladder share some common traits….

Aggression or more precisely assertiveness….how confident & impressive you are while sending your message across when you speak…some persons have authoritative voice…..Mel Gibson, Jack Nicholson, Morgan freeman….who made ppl to listen them… that’s where ur superior will notice your potential.

Organizational capabilities……are you able to organize a team of ppl with a vision to take process forward…..can motivate them…isn’t these leadership quality….now how do we find whether we are leader or not….its born trait…right from school & college…some ppl have great urge to lead…they like to give command rather than being directed…whether they are in school or political affair…so same in organization too…these some ppls lead whole bunch of laid backs…… you will find many who just spent substantial amount of time on one designation only without the urge of advancement of their career…the only thing they can think of putting paper and switch to others firm at little higher compensation without taking more responsibility.

I see so many ppl …who just afraid of taking more responsibilities…afraid to face challenges since they are so get used of comfort level…now when management has to choose one person among so many…how will they select right candidate….they are likely to select a person who stands out from crowd….who is master of one bt jack of all trades…. My VP who is a CA is master in his own accounting word…bt what made him successful is his diverse knowledge of finance & banking…he understand technology…has tremendous organizational & interpersonal skills….

Now some possible test of one’s own capabilities…..takes some hypothetical situation….


There is an event organized where your process needs to be presented in front of large audience….consisting top management…your manager says to the team….who will take up this responsibility to present…on hearing this everybody looks at each other’s face….heart beat is well above the average.. some may be praying don’t look at me sir.… plz…
And very few were waiting for this opportunity to come to their lap and they say yes I will do it….how proactive you are in solving a problem…or discounting an opportunity in your favor…luck is when your preparation along with capabilities meets with opportunity….

One team of foreign delegate is coming…who will take the charge of their stay…their timely completion of schedules etc etc…that taste ur organizational skills…
The main difference between a leader & a manager is.. leader set an example to motivate their team to take them to the right path….and manager just control the activities….

On an average for every 10 to 15 persons one leader is being chosen depending on the headcounts…everybody cant be a leader…..ppl who crystal clear about their potential eventually become successful in their own domain and keep growing without anyone’s advise….

I find the “fearlessness” the utmost virtue one can ever possess…did you hear this word “I am fearless”… how dangerous or progressive one can be with this trait by utilizing it at right direction.

By having just expert knowledge one can only become an accountant or programmer….not the CEO….i am sure the person who takes a call of reconstruction or merger or any organizational change is master of one bt jack of all trades… after all a good ear, a good mouth and a good heart is what that makes the difference… did i forget good brain :)

सोजन्य - श्री श्री सुदीपाचार्य
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Excellent post. Well said. Thanks!

[sudeepdular]

[QUOTE=sudeepdular;231866]
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Excellent post. Well said. Thanks!


Thanks for acknowledgement...:)

[brahmtewatia]

By having just expert knowledge one can only become an accountant or programmer….not the CEO….i am sure the person who takes a call of reconstruction or merger or any organizational change is master of one bt jack of all trades… after all a good ear, a good mouth and a good heart is what that makes the difference… did i forget good brain :)
सोजन्य - श्री श्री सुदीपाचार्य बहुत बहुत धन्यवाद श्री श्री सुदीपाचार्य जी बहुत अच्छा वर्णन दिया है आपने अपनी पोस्ट में.





i feel tht a jack of all trades may also be a master of integration, as the individual knows enough from many learned trades nd skills to be able to bring their disciplines together in a practical manner, BUT is not a specialist. such a person is known as a polymath or a renaissance man... a typical example being leonardo da vinci.the jack of all trades maximizes an individual’s peak experiences in life nd he learns to enjoy the pursuit of excellence unrelated to material gain, all while finding the few things he is truly uniquely suited to dominate. it’s more fun, in the most serious existential sense.

on the contrary…

any path that narrows future possibilities may become a lethal trap. humans are not threading their way through a maze… they scan a vast horizon filled with unique opportunities. the narrowing viewpoint of the maze should appeal only to creatures with their noses buried in the sand.

in a world of dogmatic specialists, it’s the >>> generalist <<< who ends up running the show… this is a FACT, not an assumption.

i don’t understand why sid nd few others have ridiculed the topic to such an extent, may be because of lack of elaboration frm the author... i dont know???

anyways, to me it definitely makes sense, cos i personally feel tht i’m one such person who would like to be described as being “a jack of all”. let me try (if i can) to explain myself a bit further of what i left in my previous posts (quoted above).

the dusty adage "jack of all trades” to me can be best defined as... "a person who can do many different types of work but who is not necessarily very competent at any of them, so we work to be a master… tht sums up our basic evaluation system. our job performance is based on meeting or exceeding the expertise outlined for our role.

… to elaborate a bit further, nd as said earlier - a person who is “jack of all trades” is a renaissance man or woman, a polymath… these are persons who are not afraid to tackle any problem. they will jump right in nd fix the car instead of taking it to the shop, or repair the broken water heater or an electric iron (for example) on their own. they can do/fix anything, do plumbing, do electrical work, work on cars, remodel the house, cook etc etc. there is nothing tht they would not do… instead they would do it pretty well. they may or may not hv a special training, instead they just do what is needed to be done nd learn to become good at everything because they worked at it. it may not be perfect but it is being self sufficient tht can give an individual a sense of pride nd satisfaction. tht simply means they try to be self sufficient nd do as much as they can for themselves nd as best as they can.

ever heard of a word called ‘जुगाड़’ or ‘जुगाडू ’. A job well done in indian pretext is better called as… फिट जुगाड़ कर दिया. if it works well you are indeed a satisfied soul.

on the contrary, master of one = a specialist, a person of one trade, who is limited by only what he knows best. he is confined by what he has chosen.

[simplified in simplest terminology]

[gaganjat]

discussions discussions discussions hahaha this topic with so many smart explanations :confused:

[annch]

Brahm,
Thank you for supporting the topic.:)
Nishant, Deepak, Jit, Rajeev, Sunil, Anil, Lalit, Vineeta, Samar, Shailender, Poonam, Akshay, Richa, RK2, Sandeep, Manjit, Narender, Virender, Urmila ji, Sandesh, Sudeep.........posted/voted without a need for further elaboration on a "general" topic.
As for other posts, they also support the topic, in favor of being master of one-ridicule.
Regards


i don’t understand why sid nd few others have ridiculed the topic to such an extent, may be because of lack of elaboration frm the author... i dont know???

[sudeepdular]

बहुत बहुत धन्यवाद श्री श्री सुदीपाचार्य जी बहुत अच्छा वर्णन दिया है आपने अपनी पोस्ट में.



i don’t understand why sid nd few others have ridiculed the topic to such an extent, may be because of lack of elaboration frm the author... I dont know???

anyways, to me it definitely makes sense, cos i personally feel tht i’m one such person who would like to be described as being “a jack of all”. Let me try (if i can) to explain myself a bit further of what i left in my previous posts (quoted above).

the dusty adage "jack of all trades” to me can be best defined as... "a person who can do many different types of work but who is not necessarily very competent at any of them, so we work to be a master… tht sums up our basic evaluation system. Our job performance is based on meeting or exceeding the expertise outlined for our role.

… to elaborate a bit further, nd as said earlier - a person who is “jack of all trades” is a renaissance man or woman, a polymath… these are persons who are not afraid to tackle any problem. They will jump right in nd fix the car instead of taking it to the shop, or repair the broken water heater or an electric iron (for example) on their own. They can do/fix anything, do plumbing, do electrical work, work on cars, remodel the house, cook etc etc. There is nothing tht they would not do… instead they would do it pretty well. They may or may not hv a special training, instead they just do what is needed to be done nd learn to become good at everything because they worked at it. It may not be perfect but it is being self sufficient tht can give an individual a sense of pride nd satisfaction. Tht simply means they try to be self sufficient nd do as much as they can for themselves nd as best as they can.

ever heard of a word called ‘जुगाड़’ or ‘जुगाडू ’. A job well done in indian pretext is better called as… फिट जुगाड़ कर दिया. If it works well you are indeed a satisfied soul.

on the contrary, master of one = a specialist, a person of one trade, who is limited by only what he knows best. He is confined by what he has chosen.

[simplified in simplest terminology]

ब्रहम... आपकी निश्छल प्रशंसा के लिए में आपका आभारी हूँ, जैसे आपके लेखन से यह सपष्ट है की जीवन के सभी आयामों तथा पहलुओ का आनंद प्राप्त करने के लिए एक सम्पूर्ण व्यक्तित्व का होना ही श्रेष्ठ है, मेरा ये कथन अतिशयोक्ति पूर्ण नहीं होगा अगर में कहू " व्यक्ति के जिर्णोदार के सारी सम्भावनाये तब तक समाप्त नहीं होती जब तक उसका अस्तित्व इस संसार में है." जीवन के सभी पहलुओ का आनद उठाना ही जीवन को न सिर्फ प्रासंगिक बल्कि अर्थपूर्ण भी बनाता है शायद यही अर्ध सत्य है.

[urmiladuhan]

… to elaborate a bit further, nd as said earlier - a person who is “jack of all trades” is a renaissance man or woman



A renaissance? How come? I don't think being Jack of All Trades is a requirement for renaissance.

[urmiladuhan]

Sir apka naam naahe liya tha maine, lagta hai aap he defaulter ho :D
:cool:

thanks for being so perceptive! :)

[urmiladuhan]

Hello Anju, Could I ask you to make edits to post number 33 where it erroneously shows that the original message: "but no one will allow..." was posted by Milu? It was your message, not mine.
Thanks in advance!

[brahmtewatia]

A renaissance? How come? I don't think being Jack of All Trades is a requirement for renaissance.madam,

at the very outset, please be apprised that your above sentence is absurd and is meaningless. now, since you seem to be a bit confused/crossed between the terminology, pls allow me to sort out the confusion... btw when did i say tht being jack of all trades is a requirement of renaissance ???... anyway, forget abt tht, because the explanation that follows will sort out the issue.

having said tht nd before i proceed any further, please get few definitions right.

1. renaissance
2. renaissance men


1. The Renaissance (French for "rebirth"; Italian: Rinascimento; Spanish: Renacimiento), was a cultural movement that spanned roughly the 14th through the 17th century, beginning in Italy in the late Middle Ages and later spreading to the rest of Europe and now at JATland. It encompassed the revival of learning based on classical sources, the rise of courtly and papal patronage, the development of perspective in painting, and advancements in science. The Renaissance had wide-ranging consequences in all intellectual pursuits, but is perhaps best known for its artistic aspect and the contributions of such (pls have a grip here >>>) polymaths as Leonardo da Vinci and Michelangelo, who have inspired the term "Renaissance Men".

2. Renaissance men: A Polymath (Greek polymathēs, πολυμαθής, "having learned much") is a person, with superior intelligence, whose expertise spans a significant number of subject areas. In less formal terms, a polymath (or polymathic person) may simply refer to someone who is very knowledgeable. Most ancient scientists were polymaths by today's standards. A different name for the secondary meaning of polymath is "Renaissance Man" (a term first recorded in written English in the early 20th century). Other similar terms also in use are Homo universalis and Uomo Universale, which in Latin and Italian, respectively, translate as "universal person" or "universal man".you can use the following links to explore more on renaissance men...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymath

p.s. : pls ignore the picture in the link.

[brahmtewatia]

ब्रहम... आपकी निश्छल प्रशंसा के लिए में आपका आभारी हूँ, जैसे आपके लेखन से यह सपष्ट है की जीवन के सभी आयामों तथा पहलुओ का आनंद प्राप्त करने के लिए एक सम्पूर्ण व्यक्तित्व का होना ही श्रेष्ठ है, मेरा ये कथन अतिशयोक्ति पूर्ण नहीं होगा अगर में कहू " व्यक्ति के जिर्णोदार के सारी सम्भावनाये तब तक समाप्त नहीं होती जब तक उसका अस्तित्व इस संसार में है." जीवन के सभी पहलुओ का आनद उठाना ही जीवन को न सिर्फ प्रासंगिक बल्कि अर्थपूर्ण भी बनाता है शायद यही अर्ध सत्य है.श्री श्री सुदीपाचार्य जी... आपको मेरा नतमस्तक प्रणाम !!!

आपकी उपरोक्त लेखनी से पूर्णत ज्ञात होता है की यह अर्ध सत्य नहीं, अपितु पूर्ण सत्य है. निस्संदेह व्यक्ति के जीर्णोद्धार की सारी सम्भावनाये तब तक समाप्त नहीं होती जब तक उसका अस्तित्व इस संसार में है.

प्रभु, कहाँ हैं आपके चरण

[anilsinghd]

discussions discussions discussions hahaha this topic with so many smart explanations :confused:

what's the probability of BSE (Bombay Stock Exchange) going up on the day following a Sachin Tendulkar century? :)

[sunillathwal]

what's the probability of BSE (Bombay Stock Exchange) going up on the day following a Sachin Tendulkar century? :)

non-Zero.. :)

[anilsinghd]

i don’t understand why sid nd few others have ridiculed the topic to such an extent, ... i dont know???



Ohh! that is simple , i know the reason , but before telling you that , let me ask you a question, What's your favorite pastime?


Regards, Anil

[gaganjat]

depends on the capacity of the stadium and the weather conditions


what's the probability of BSE (Bombay Stock Exchange) going up on the day following a Sachin Tendulkar century? :)

[gaganjat]

Moderator se gujarish hai is thread ko baand kar diya jaye. 'jack of all trades' aale jeet gaye.:)

[gaganjat]

jisne thread shuru kiya the usnai ib tahi koi clue nahi ki ke ho rya sai ar kis khatar vote karre:tamatar ar baki logga nahi hade bera nahi ke ke research kar di

[annch]

:)........

jisne thread shuru kiya the usnai ib tahi koi clue nahi ki ke ho rya sai ar kis khatar vote karre:tamatar ar baki logga nahi hade bera nahi ke ke research kar di

[annch]

:) :) :) :) :)

moderator se gujarish hai is thread ko baand kar diya jaye. 'jack of all trades' aale jeet gaye.:)

[sudeepdular]

श्री श्री सुदीपाचार्य जी... आपको मेरा नतमस्तक प्रणाम !!!

आपकी उपरोक्त लेखनी से पूर्णत ज्ञात होता है की यह अर्ध सत्य नहीं, अपितु पूर्ण सत्य है. निस्संदेह व्यक्ति के जीर्णोद्धार की सारी सम्भावनाये तब तक समाप्त नहीं होती जब तक उसका अस्तित्व इस संसार में है.

प्रभु, कहाँ हैं आपके चरण

मेरे अर्ध सत्य का अभिप्राय तथा उसका सामायिक प्रयोग, पूर्ण सत्य के अंतर्निहित सवरूप की जटिलता को समझ पाने की असमर्थता की दुविधा थी, मेरे चरणों का उल्लेख न सिर्फ मेरे मर्यादा_उल्लंघन की पराकास्ठा होगी अपितु आपकी भी.....आपका भ्राता समान स्नेह सदा युंही बना रहे में उसी का आकांक्षी हूं ! :)

[annch]

Sudeep,
Appreciate your good posts, thanks

[urmiladuhan]

at the very outset, please be apprised that your above sentence is absurd and is meaningless.


You may be right if I take it in a broader context.

[urmiladuhan]

Moderator se gujarish hai is thread ko baand kar diya jaye. 'jack of all trades' aale jeet gaye.:)

Should 'winning' an argument by any means be the reason for coming on this board, "Country Boy"?

[brahmtewatia]

Ohh! that is simple , i know the reason , but before telling you that , let me ask you a question, What's your favorite pastime?

Regards, Anilगुल्ली डंडा, कंचे, लट्टू, ततैय्ये (wasp) मारना... द लिस्ट गोएस ऑन एंड ऑन.

in yr next post, dont ask for my fav. past time at JL. i know, its tuff to evolve esp. at JATland. everybody pays its price during evolution. you too was बांदर (कटी पुन्जड आला) before you evolved. at the same time must not forget... m the best example to be quoted (... or at least, i think so)

p.s. : घने चटखारे मन्ना ले, refer attached pic to see the process of evolution (ladeej, also please गौर फरमाएं)

[anilsinghd]

गुल्ली डंडा, कंचे, लट्टू, ततैय्ये (wasp) मारना... द लिस्ट गोएस ऑन एंड ऑन.




thank you , that nails your original question down , one does what one likes to do :) hope you got what i am trying to say! :)

[anilsinghd]

refer attached pic to see the process of evolution (ladeej, also please गौर फरमाएं)



ha ha ha

but i dont concentrate that much and do not sit that straight while in front of PC :D i am half lying down literally , kisi din toot jaagi ya meri kursi :p

[gaganjat]

me-loo

kitna accha sense of humour hai :o

ab se mai kosish karunga koi majak me baat likhu to bracket me likh du ki majak sai (majak hai hehehahawhowhohahawhwohaha)

by the way ye 'board' nahi hai computer screen hai (ye majak nahi hai) hehehhahaahahwhwowhowho

kimme baddi baat godya mai (ye majak nahi hai)



Should 'winning' an argument by any means be the reason for coming on this board, "Country Boy"?

[Nishantrathi82]

गुल्ली डंडा, कंचे, लट्टू, ततैय्ये (wasp) मारना... द लिस्ट गोएस ऑन एंड ऑन.

in yr next post, dont ask for my fav. past time at JL. i know, its tuff to evolve esp. at JATland. everybody pays its price during evolution. you too was बांदर (कटी पुन्जड आला) before you evolved. at the same time must not forget... m the best example to be quoted (... or at least, i think so)

p.s. : घने चटखारे मन्ना ले, refer attached pic to see the process of evolution (ladeej, also please गौर फरमाएं)



Hahahahaha Lolz :D

[urmiladuhan]

by the way ye 'board' nahi hai computer screen hai (ye majak nahi hai)


Are you serious? You mean you have not seen further on? There is a board... look carefully... do you see it now? It even has a name... sounds familiar? Clue: starts with a 'J'

[urmiladuhan]

There is a misrepresentation in post number 33. It assigns a quote from post number 12 (not authored by me) to my name. Please remove my name (Milu) from post number 33.

[urmiladuhan]

having said tht nd before i proceed any further, please get few definitions right.

1. renaissance
2. renaissance men



I have the definitions pat down now!
I'm patiently waiting for you to proceed :)

[urmiladuhan]

refer attached pic to see the process of evolution



Very funny!- the comparison, I mean.

[annch]

Brahm,
Reference: Only the Pic in the attachment.
Woman did not evolve, because she just needed to be master of one....MAN.....survival ke liye aur evolve hone kii zaroorat hee nahin padi!!!:)


refer attached pic to see the process of evolution (ladeej, also please गौर फरमाएं)

[annch]

Urmila ji,
After a certain time, we cannot edit our posts. I have requested the moderators to do so.
Regards

Hello Anju, Could I ask you to make edits to post number 33 where it erroneously shows that the original message: "but no one will allow..." was posted by Milu? It was your message, not mine.
Thanks in advance!

[shailendra]

Brahm,
Reference: Only the Pic in the attachment.
Woman did not evolve, because she just needed to be master of one....MAN.....survival ke liye aur evolve hone kii zaroorat hee nahin padi!!!:)

Hmmmmmm... either that Watson, OR the woman eventually evolved into a man (Yikes! :eek:) depending on how you look at the 'complete picture' within that funny graphical representation! ;)

[brahmtewatia]

you can use the following links to explore more on renaissance men...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymath

p.s. : pls ignore the picture in the link.

madam,
now tht you have patted the definitions, d'u still want me to proceed?... ok, since you are so anxious, i've a humble request before i proceed - please bear with me nd dont feel offended after the explanation tht follows...

explanation:
i thot tht i'm done after my abv remarks in red nd after giving you the links. it was expected tht after getting the definitions right, you shud have proceeded to the links for further information, esp. on renaissance men, wch i've equated with 'jack of all trades' in my earlier posts. but, it seems tht you've ignored my p.s. nd didn't concentrated on the text provided in wiki links (<<< no pun intended, pls take it easy)... anyways, you just justified the evolution of woman, in my previous pic attachment... 2009 A.D or 2050 A.D not much difference.

@anju post # 103 : woman didn't evolved !!! you see the repercussions now, no-one can defy the laws of evolution.

p.s. : apologies in advance, if you still feel offended... honestly i didn't wanted to put this post.

I have the definitions pat down now!
I'm patiently waiting for you to proceed :)

[akshaymalik84]

Brahm,
Reference: Only the Pic in the attachment.
Woman did not evolve, because she just needed to be master of one....MAN.....survival ke liye aur evolve hone kii zaroorat hee nahin padi!!!:)

Rightly said! :)

BUt you(women) don't need to be a subordinate if you are master of Man. Survival word is contradicting the word Master.

[shailendra]

...probably never stops!... :D

[annch]

Holmes.....you are disregarding continuity of (hu)man race?

OR the woman eventually evolved into a man ;)

[annch]

True, survival contradicts master.
But don't u think, "survival" word is apt in context of evolution?

Rightly said! :)

BUt you(women) don't need to be a subordinate if you are master of Man. Survival word is contradicting the word Master.

[shailendra]

Holmes.....you are disregarding continuity of (hu)man race?
...well, tell ya what mebbe I was reminiscing about a certain long-lost thread that related to the rewriting of the section 377 of the Indian penal Court! ;):rolleyes::cool:

[annch]

Brahm,

Aap shaanpat karo ho with "apologies in advance"...:D
aap agar eeb woman ke efforts ko provoke karoge to revolution aa jyaga!!!


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@anju post # 103 : woman didn't evolved !!! you see the repercussions now, no-one can defy the laws of evolution.

p.s. : apologies in advance, if you still feel offended... honestly i didn't wanted to put this post.

[annch]

Nice one...as ususal...
As per the pic, MAN seems to be "de-volving"...:D

...probably never stops!... :D

[akshaymalik84]

True, survival contradicts master.
But don't u think, "survival" word is apt in context of evolution?

It certainly do.

But i think survival was a thinking of past. Evolution is a process, and survival may be first priority but then revolution came.

[annch]

I agree with you, if you agree with me... :)

It certainly do.

But i think survival was a thinking of past. Evolution is a process, and survival may be first priority but then revolution came.

[brahmtewatia]

Brahm,

Aap shaanpat karo ho with "apologies in advance"...:D
aap agar eeb woman ke efforts ko provoke karoge to revolution aa jyaga!!!oh... you mean r(evolution) of women ???... i wish tht shud happen nd it was not shyaanpat, it was my respect/apologies for the evolving woman (at JATland).

Q = btw, wch efforts you are talking ???

p.s. : efforts have to be provoked further, for better results ;) ............ :eek: (provocation is in reference to evolution, pls dont implicate with other meanings)

[urmiladuhan]

madam,
now tht you have patted the definitions, d'u still want me to proceed?... ok, since you are so anxious, i've a humble request before i proceed - please bear with me nd dont feel offended after the explanation tht follows...

explanation:
i thot tht i'm done after my abv remarks in red nd after giving you the links. it was expected tht after getting the definitions right, you shud have proceeded to the links for further information, esp. on renaissance men, wch i've equated with 'jack of all trades' in my earlier posts. but, it seems tht you've ignored my p.s. nd didn't concentrated on the text provided in wiki links (<<< no pun intended, pls take it easy)... anyways, you just justified the evolution of woman, in my previous pic attachment... 2009 A.D or 2050 A.D not much difference.

@anju post # 103 : woman didn't evolved !!! you see the repercussions now, no-one can defy the laws of evolution.

p.s. : apologies in advance, if you still feel offended... honestly i didn't wanted to put this post.


When you ASSUME, you try to make an ASS of U and ME. I know my position in the animal kingdom (i.e., human). You just identified yours!

p.s: no pun should be "assumed".

[rajesh00]

Intelligent question asked but then Jat get behind women as they always did.My answer is JACK OF ALL TRADES.

[urmiladuhan]

For Shailendra Hooda:

No Lois Lane in the photo?

[brahmtewatia]

pls. read this (red nd highlighted)
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I have the definitions pat down now!
I'm patiently waiting for you to proceed :)
when i proceeded (post # 106) (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showpost.php?p=232221&postcount=106) you said i'm assuming
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When you ASSUME, you try to make an ASS of U and ME. I know my position in the animal kingdom (i.e., human). You just identified yours!

p.s: no pun should be "assumed".
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now go back, nd read abv in red nd tell me who is assuming ? (>>> on my behalf no pun assumed)
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now read this
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kitne samajdar ho aap:)

vaise baat gudgamme ki ho rhi thi aap andhra pradesh pauch ge

ok, now this one makes sense
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Should 'winning' an argument by any means be the reason for coming on this board
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please have your last word. my heartfelt apologies if you felt bad or offended... honestly tht was n'vr the intention.

[shailendra]

For Shailendra Hooda:

No Lois Lane in the photo?

...;) Yeah I guess! (BTW cartoon not created by me...)

But here are some more to see and smile [again not my toons; but some very funny ones and on pretty much the same lines...]

Enjoy folks...

[urmiladuhan]

pls. read this (red nd highlighted)
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when i proceeded (post # 106) (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showpost.php?p=232221&postcount=106) you said i'm assuming
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now go back, nd read abv in red nd tell me who is assuming ? (>>> on my behalf no pun assumed)
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now read this
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ok, now this one makes sense
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please have your last word. my heartfelt apologies if you felt bad or offended... honestly tht was n'vr the intention.

Can you write sophisticated/classy posts? These won't do.

[shailendra]

For Shailendra Hooda:

No Lois Lane in the photo?

Whoops! My apologies for having completely missed noticing your lil’ pun in my earlier response… (must be having my usual ‘duh’ moments!... you see superevil business in Metropolis really tires me out and the brain all fuzzy on days!:o) In any case- so involved was I with the discussion here I could have sworn you were simply talking about the ‘Neanderthal’ man in that cartoon I had posted and maybe enquiring about a missing ‘super’ cave-woman in there….

BUT a friend just pointed out my silly goof up!!!

Okay Yup,… you bet - no Lois Lane in the picture; and one can thank their stars for that …this pic (which by the way is an old picture that has the infamy of having featured on my Jatland profile before!) has had it share of stories… one can only shudder and imagine what a Lois Lane too in there would have prompted! :rolleyes:

[FYI some also widely suspect I am wearing a dhoti under that Tee (and the indomitable Navin Gulia even drew a ‘rare’ cartoon of me that way)… fueling ripe reports about my apparent reluctance towards trying and fly around too much on this portal; I agree - that whole dhoti-thingy and supersonic speed flying… uh-huh! :eek:]

ps. But hey uh, Urmila…. umm, listen….look, now you know the secret (about who superman really is, right?)…you know…:cool:.... so, uh…. try and keep it under wraps, will ya?

[urmiladuhan]

ps. listen….look, now you know the secret (about who superman really is, right?)…you know…:cool:.... so, uh…. try and keep it under wraps, will ya? [/QUOTE]

You bet! See you at the Daily Planet, Clark!

[shailendra]

...I am ready with my Beer and popcorn; settled on the favourite comfy-couch!!! :cool::rolleyes:;)

[brahmtewatia]

hmmm, so you were testimony to hurricane 'khundoo' tht swept JATland last evening IST... i had a blackout tht was scheduled for 6.00 pm. nice to see the lull today morning. nd yeah it reminds me of yr thread "internet trolls"... so many on prowl.
...I am ready with my Beer and popcorn; settled on the favourite comfy-couch!!! :cool::rolleyes:;)

[shailendra]

hmmm, so you were testimony to hurricane 'khundoo' tht swept JATland last evening IST... i had a blackout tht was scheduled for 6.00 pm. nice to see the lull today morning. nd yeah it reminds me of yr thread "internet trolls"... so many on prowl.

...Yeah more surprisingly so considering the (shudder) Hurricane Season was now officially over at least for us poor/battered South-Floridians!!! :D ...

[karan]

iskool ??? mai to Nand lal Daya Ram ji(in short ND Guides ) ka dhanyawaad karna chaunga jinhone 500-500 page ki kitabo ko chota karke 50 page ki 'key' (kunji) banayi na tai mhare jisse gaam mai kheti kar rhe hote.

i saved so many trees and i m proud of it. I tried not to buy books nd never wasted any paper for doing classwork or homework or making notes nd all that crap.

ND Guide/key/kunji recycled paper se banayi jati hai aur bahut hi kam page hote hai.

meeloo tu padh tai li environment ki tanne issi tissi kar di

Arrey Daaki
Kati Jaan tey marre ga ishi ishi leekh key. Yeh Kunji ke din jaroori yaad karaney thae. jey ye kunji nahi hoti naan tey angrezi ki jaghan desi ka Thurra peemtey.:eek:

[karan]

kimme baddi baat godya mai (ye majak nahi hai)
O bhai Gagan
Tu pehla bata diya kar koon sa naya chamola chodde ga eeb ke. Teri post padh padh key jee likar gya hota

[Fateh]

Kauva chala Hans ki chaal, apani bhi bhool betha. Indian languages & Indian Chamolas are much batter than barberious language & their jokes, but one needs Indian mind & heart to understand & enjoy them.