nanotechnology and global warming

[richi]

I have read a lot about how Nanotechnology affects the Global warming potential, but i want to know that whether Nanoparticle Toxicity can be a hurdle towards that or not nd if yes then how????:)

[richi]

is nanomaterial toxicity accelerating or decelerating global warming????

[piyush83]

Its not, stupid.

[richi]

u mean nanotechnology is stupid????? or that u dint understand the thread lol so its stupid or its u who is stupid ?what is stupid piyuuuuuuuuuuuuuushhhhhhhhhhhhhh jiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii? one thing more pls pls do explain me my question can you? so that i may know u got the essence right and then we will decide about the stupidity okieeee :p
Its not, stupid.

[sunillathwal]

I have read a lot about how Nanotechnology affects the Global warming potential, but i want to know that whether Nanoparticle Toxicity can be a hurdle towards that or not nd if yes then how????:)

Why don't you give a gist of 'a lot' that you have read about the nanotechnology related Global warming!! :p
I guess, most people here are unaware of this topic and may be you can educate them a bit. :)

Nanoparticle toxicity (health hazardous; even non-toxic metals like gold etc. become 'active' in nano regime) is well known (at least R&D sector) but how nanotech increases the 'Global warming', is above my head.

As far as i have heard, nanotechnology is quite useful in making existing techniques and devices (eg, solid oxide fuel cells, batteries, Solar cells etc) more efficient; hence helpful in reducing the carbon emission (and thus global warming) :)

Toxicity as a hurdle in pursuing nanotech: nothing comes for free; nano toxicity is an issue but not so grave that it can not be overcome. Even non-Nano technologies have health issues. Developments in instrumentation (probing techniques) have actually opened up the previously unknown (or ignored) health hazardous. For instance, Ages old Mustered oil lamp which is frequently used in villages (thought to be better than Kerosene lamp) gives carbon nano particles; though not toxic as such, but when inhaled, this carbon get deposited as a layer on lungs which is obviously a serious issue. Recently there was a Nature magazine article showing high resolution images of Graphene sheet deposited at the interiors of lung of a rodent (or something)!! :D

So, many of these nanotoxiciologic issues were already there; Thanks to advance technology we have started to notice that. :)

[richi]

Good actually u are confusing between nanotechnology and nanomaterial toxicity ,i m saying that what all i have studied so far couldnt clarify whether nanomaterial toxicity reduces globalwarming or increases it?????

Nd what u are telling is just about nanotechnology which till date seems to be beneficial but one never knows when scientists come up with some research that shows it's detrimental effects!

nanamaterial toxicity and tech though run parallel yet they are too different role wise.

"A LOT "IS LOT SO, THAT CAN'T BE ACCOMODATED HERE :) GD TRY ANYWAY !
Why don't you give a gist of 'a lot' that you have read about the nanotechnology related Global warming!! :p
I guess, most people here are unaware of this topic and may be you can educate them a bit. :)

Nanoparticle toxicity (health hazardous; even non-toxic metals like gold etc. become 'active' in nano regime) is well known (at least R&D sector) but how nanotech increases the 'Global warming', is above my head.

As far as i have heard, nanotechnology is quite useful in making existing techniques and devices (eg, solid oxide fuel cells, batteries, Solar cells etc) more efficient; hence helpful in reducing the carbon emission (and thus global warming) :)

Toxicity as a hurdle in pursuing nanotech: nothing comes for free; nano toxicity is an issue but not so grave that it can not be overcome. Even non-Nano technologies have health issues. Developments in instrumentation (probing techniques) have actually opened up the previously unknown (or ignored) health hazardous. For instance, Ages old Mustered oil lamp which is frequently used in villages (thought to be better than Kerosene lamp) gives carbon nano particles; though not toxic as such, but when inhaled, this carbon get deposited as a layer on lungs which is obviously a serious issue. Recently there was a Nature magazine article showing high resolution images of Graphene sheet deposited at the interiors of lung of a rodent (or something)!! :D

So, many of these nanotoxiciologic issues were already there; Thanks to advance technology we have started to notice that. :)

[urmiladuhan]

I have read a lot about how Nanotechnology affects the Global warming potential, but i want to know that whether Nanoparticle Toxicity can be a hurdle towards that or not nd if yes then how????:)

Is your concern about a specific nanotechnology application to limiting Global Warming (such as Nanotechnology for Solar Paneling) or you are talking in general terms within this specialized area? Wow, did I just use an oxymoron here?!

[richi]

it's about nanomaterial toxicity specifically
Is your concern about a specific nanotechnology application to limiting Global Warming (such as Nanotechnology for Solar Paneling) or you are talking in general terms within this specialized area? Wow, did I just use an oxymoron here?!

[bazardparveen]

Good actually u are confusing between nanotechnology and nanomaterial toxicity ,i m saying that what all i have studied so far couldnt clarify whether nanomaterial toxicity reduces globalwarming or increases it?????

Nd what u are telling is just about nanotechnology whichtill date seems to be beneficial but one never knows when scientists come up with some research that shows it's detrimental effects!

nanamaterial toxicity and tech though run parallel yet they are too different role wise.

"A LOT "IS LOT SO, THAT CAN'T BE ACCOMODATED HERE :) GD TRY ANYWAY !

It's non debatable that nanotechnology has enormous application(no need to mention.....you know much better than me). Along with applications problems comes because of it's size.....Nano toxicity is that problem and it's a challenge for scientist across the world and work is going on it.....

Now coming to global warming, I am not that much aware about it. As you have mentioned, you read a lot on it... please mention some sources from where I can read these......



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[richi]

google best source and science direct
It's non debatable that nanotechnology has enormous application(no need to mention.....you know much better than me). Along with applications problems comes because of it's size.....Nano toxicity is that problem and it's a challenge for scientist across the world and work is going on it.....

Now coming to global warming, I am not that much aware about it. As you have mentioned, you read a lot on it... please mention some sources from where I can read these......



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[urmiladuhan]

it's about nanomaterial toxicity specifically

If your concern is not about Global Warming Potential specifically then you could remove it from your query and instead ask regarding Nanomaterial Toxicity- which is a broad topic.

[richi]

omg omg i m asking that how specifically nanomaterials toxicity affects GW..... Do reply only if u have any knowledege in this regard ??

Its jus this that m going to present some paper in an interational conference so ,i was just trying to gather some more info ..though of course ,i have basic material with me that could suffice the requisite content for the paper yet i wanted to know if someone has some knowledge about the innovative researches in this area that i might have missed on .....that's it!!!!!

[bazardparveen]

google best source and science direct

Nanotechnology will emerges as the solution for global warming. It's a positive of nanotechnolgy. It will be huge releif to whole world.....

Nano toxicity is a problem that comes in picture recently. .Hopefully reseachers will come with a solutions of it.........No need to worry that much about it. With the time solution will surely come.. I feel till date there is no need of mixing GW with nanotoxicity

[richi]

hmmm cool !
Nanotechnology will emerges as the solution for global warming. It's a positive of nanotechnolgy. It will be huge releif to whole world.....

Nano toxicity is a problem that comes in picture recently. .Hopefully reseachers will come with a solutions of it.........No need to worry that much about it. With the time solution will surely come.. I feel till date there is no need of mixing GW with nanotoxicity

[sunillathwal]

Good actually u are confusing between nanotechnology and nanomaterial toxicity,

Good that i am confused ?? Or is comma missing after 'Good' ?? :D

Anyways, nanomaterial toxicity is a consequence of nanotechnology; these are related and no, m not confused between nanotech and nanotoxicity. Actually, u could have framed your question in a better way.



i m saying that what all i have studied so far couldnt clarify whether nanomaterial toxicity reduces globalwarming or increases it?????


so is this your question??

Nanomaterial toxicity is sort of 'side-effect' of nanotechnology. A consequence of nanotech.
I can understand the detrimental effects of nanotechonolgy in terms of environmental hazard, toxic waste [which would have been a normal waste, had it not been nano] and related health issues BUT global warming ?? (and that too coz of nanotoxicity and not nanotechonlogy) :confused:

Again, how&why you think that nanotoxicity is directly related with global warming (increases or decreases GWarming)??

Do you mean that- Nanomaterial toxicity might discourage people to use nanotechnology which means use of other MICRO/MACRO-techs (less efficient ones) which further imply more global warming than that would have been by the use of nanotech??
If yes, logical felony i must say!! :)




Nd what u are telling is just about nanotechnology which till date seems to be beneficial but one never knows when scientists come up with some research that shows it's detrimental effects!

:D :D Nanotoxicity is a detrimental effect!! Again what is your message here??



nanamaterial toxicity and tech though run parallel yet they are too different role wise.

Enlighten me further!! :)




"A LOT "IS LOT SO, THAT CAN'T BE ACCOMODATED HERE :) GD TRY ANYWAY !

oh, dear Bhagwan! u must read posts carefully. i did put the word 'gist' which means making a 'a lil' of that 'a lot' without loosing much of the meaning. :)
Had you put some introduction in your first post, it would have been easier to understand your question precisely and decide if one has something to add to your understanding.
BTW, is you keyboard broken? :o

[richi]

I think sunil u hardly know anything about polymerscience or nano science so,please don't give kiddish replies .Save ur time nd don't waste mine either .

MY "LOT"ND LOL= YOUR "LIL" THAT IS ME !!:cool:

Good that i am confused ?? Or is comma missing after 'Good' ?? :D

Anyways, nanomaterial toxicity is a consequence of nanotechnology; these are related and no, m not confused between nanotech and nanotoxicity. Actually, u could have framed your question in a better way.



so is this your question??

Nanomaterial toxicity is sort of 'side-effect' of nanotechnology. A consequence of nanotech.
I can understand the detrimental effects of nanotechonolgy in terms of environmental hazard, toxic waste [which would have been a normal waste, had it not been nano] and related health issues BUT global warming ?? (and that too coz of nanotoxicity and not nanotechonlogy) :confused:

Again, how&why you think that nanotoxicity is directly related with global warming (increases or decreases GWarming)??

Do you mean that- Nanomaterial toxicity might discourage people to use nanotechnology which means use of other MICRO/MACRO-techs (less efficient ones) which further imply more global warming than that would have been by the use of nanotech??
If yes, logical felony i must say!! :)




:D :D Nanotoxicity is a detrimental effect!! Again what is your message here??



Enlighten me further!! :)




oh, dear Bhagwan! u must read posts carefully. i did put the word 'gist' which means making a 'a lil' of that 'a lot' without loosing much of the meaning. :)
Had you put some introduction in your first post, it would have been easier to understand your question precisely and decide if one has something to add to your understanding.
BTW, is you keyboard broken? :o

[sunillathwal]

I think sunil u hardly know anything about polymerscience or nano science so,please don't give kiddish replies .Save ur time nd don't waste mine either .


:D
i guess, its an open forum and anyone can participate/contribute (best of their abilities). :)
if your time is so precious then why you are wasting your precious time here (most ppl don't have idea about the your nanotoxicity here); go and browse related journal where you can find plenty of literatures covering all aspect of your queries. :rolleyes:

(BTW) now ploymerscience :(
something related with polymotoxism or is it a plan show-off (knowledge of technical terms)!!

nanotoxicity.. international conference... nano sciences, polymerscience.. :eek:

next is what?? In vivo investigations for fullerene toxicity on non-adherent mammalian cell lines or something of that short. :eek:
* Clap-Clap* in advance (if that's what is expected here) :p



MY "LOT"ND LOL= YOUR "LIL" THAT IS ME !!:cool:

WOW, so mature.

I think Richi you are very great and extremely mature. :)
Happy ? :eek:

[bazardparveen]

hmmm cool !


Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:):):)

[richi]

ohh poor boy how much did u google for me spent hours and hours searching for fullerene !.. i m indebted tah ya !! I spent hardly 5 mins writing my query nd u spent hours ahh!!!

Just because u dint understand all this stuff u believe that no one can how immature again..

hahah so u agreed u dont know much about Poly,nano sciences ad still going ahead with asseveration. so immature..but no complains!

Don't clap for me cus i thrive on claps from masses !!!nd yes one more thing to add u seem to be too touched by my show off haha if at all it is ...are jl forums meant to splurge ???? never knew that !


:D
i guess, its an open forum and anyone can participate/contribute (best of their abilities). :)
if your time is so precious then why you are wasting your precious time here (most ppl don't have idea about the your nanotoxicity here); go and browse related journal where you can find plenty of literatures covering all aspect of your queries. :rolleyes:

(BTW) now ploymerscience :(
something related with polymotoxism or is it a plan show-off (knowledge of technical terms)!!

nanotoxicity.. international conference... nano sciences, polymerscience.. :eek:

next is what?? In vivo investigations for fullerene toxicity on non-adherent mammalian cell lines or something of that short. :eek:
* Clap-Clap* in advance (if that's what is expected here) :p


WOW, so mature.

I think Richi you are very great and extremely mature. :)
Happy ? :eek:

[sunillathwal]

ohh poor boy how much did u google for me spent hours and hours searching for fullerene !.. i m indebted tah ya !! I spent hardly 5 mins writing my query nd u spent hours ahh!!!

Just because u dint understand all this stuff u believe that no one can how immature again..

hahah so u agreed u dont know much about Poly,nano sciences ad still going ahead with asseveration. so immature..but no complains!

Don't clap for me cus i thrive on claps from masses !!!

:D :D :D

not really, i have a reasonably good speed in typing, hardly few minutes (in single digit). ;)

btw what is this "cus" :D
and thrive on "masses". smooth!! :p :D

[richi]

U DON'T KNOW WHAT CUS IS??? STRANGE ACTUALLY EVEN I DID THE SAME THING AS U DID TRYING TO HIT WITHOUT ANY KNOWLEDGE :oPLS GO AND GET UR MENTAL AGE CHECKED CUS UR COMPREHENSIBILITY IS EXTEREMLY PATHETIC ...HAHA I ASK ABOUT LION ND U TELL ME ABOUT GOAT.lol i DONT THRIVE ON MASSES I SAID I DESERVE AN APPLAUD BETTER !

WELL BABY ,GO AND BRUSH UR TEETH FIRST ,COMEBACK LETS HAVE ATALKTHEN ... IM HERE :)
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and thrive on "masses". smooth!!

[sunillathwal]

U DON'T KNOW WHAT CUS IS??? STRANGE ACTUALLY EVEN I DID THE SAME THING AS U DID TRYING TO HIT WITHOUT ANY KNOWLEDGE :oPLS GO AND GET UR MENTAL AGE CHECKED CUS UR COMPREHENSIBILITY IS EXTEREMLY PATHETIC ...HAHA I ASK ABOUT LION ND U TELL ME ABOUT GOAT.lol i DONT THRIVE ON MASSES I SAID I DESERVE AN APPLAUD BETTER !

WELL BABY ,GO AND BRUSH UR TEETH FIRST ,COMEBACK LETS HAVE ATALKTHEN ... IM HERE :)

HA ha a ha ... :D :D

few minutes back you said, you thrive on masses and now you say that you don't !! mood swings?? :p :D :D

[bazardparveen]

tham donu kasuta technical so................lado bhi technical dang tae so.................good..............showing respect to thread.................:D:D:D:D



mera dhora ek nanotechology tae bane or bandook dhare sae.................chiya to bata diyo...............................:rock:rock:rock :rock:rock

[Hariom1972]

come on sunil and richa,, why have you stopped, i was enjoying, reading the edicts of both of you. a few more posts, pl.

[richi]

sunil bhaisab app ka kya hoga ..tam toh ghaney phantom ho ,psychologist bhi ho pahley apni budhi ka toh eelaj dhoond lo hahahhahahaahah
HA ha a ha ... :D :D

few minutes back you said, you thrive on masses and now you say that you don't !! mood swings?? :p :D :D

[sunillathwal]

sunil bhaisab app ka kya hoga ..tam toh ghaney phantom ho ,psychologist bhi ho pahley apni budhi ka toh eelaj dhoond lo hahahhahahaahah

क्या बात है रिची मोहतरमा, अचानक अंग्रेजी प्रेम से हिंदी प्रेम जाग्रत हो गया?? :confused: खैर मैं तो कोई मनोचिकत्षक नहीं हूँ, इसलिए बुधी-इलाज़ नहीं कर सकता अपना| पर आपको काफी जानकारी है सूक्ष्म-विज्ञान, टोक्सिकोलोजी एवं रेशा-विज्ञान के बारे में.. :eek: अगर आपको कुछ ज्ञान है इस बारे में भी तो जरुर अपने विचार प्रकट कीजिएगा... पर बार-बार बदलियेगा नहीं (कुछ बदलाव के लिए). :D :D

[urmiladuhan]

[QUOTE=richi;231644] Do reply only if u have any knowledege in this regard ??

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even if I don't like your manners? I don't think so.

[richi]

your welcome didi :)
[QUOTE=richi;231644] Do reply only if u have any knowledege in this regard ??

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even if I don't like your manners? I don't think so.

[richi]

Thanx for the awesome replies and "23 skidoo" i dont want any FURTHER reply!!!!

[Mishti]

Frankly speaking I’m not much of a nanotech person but having attended 2 seminars I think I can comment on this. We all are aware of the benefits of nanotechnology in various fields.Well anything related to nanotechnology has to have nanomaterials and manufacturing of nanomaterials does leads to increase in production and use of greenhouse gases on the other hand nanomaterials like the carbon nanotubes bring down the energy cost by enabling the production of lighter industrial components.

I hope these links might help u in deciding whether it’s actually good or bad for global warming.

http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/bpl/jiec/2008/00000012/00000003/art00017

http://www.sciencecorps.org/FINAL%20-%20OECD%20environmental%20Brief%20130709.doc

[richi]

good and thanx rama i' ll definitely check in the links :)
Frankly speaking I’m not much of a nanotech person but having attended 2 seminars I think I can comment on this. We all are aware of the benefits of nanotechnology in various fields.Well anything related to nanotechnology has to have nanomaterials and manufacturing of nanomaterials does leads to increase in production and use of greenhouse gases on the other hand nanomaterials like the carbon nanotubes bring down the energy cost by enabling the production of lighter industrial components.

I hope these links might help u in deciding whether it’s actually good or bad for global warming.

http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/bpl/jiec/2008/00000012/00000003/art00017

http://www.sciencecorps.org/FINAL%20%20OECD%20environmental%20Brief%20130709.d oc

[richi]

u got it right rama..nano particles are an integral part of nanotechnology so do u think that if the green houses gases are released then somewhere nanomaterials toxicity may be accelerating global warming and may be acting as an impediment in making the environ greener?? what do u say?u gave me a very apt clue ..
does nanotech hold any application in biotech???do u have any idea about that?

[Mishti]

Numerous applications of nanotech in biotech Richi, there’s no field left not applying nanotech.
Ever heard of microfluidics-multiple chemical reactions performed on a single chip, help in creating new drugs; polyvalent drugs-have numerous binding sites to act effectively; development of nanosubmarines-that minimize side effects and ensure faster recovery by delivering drugs to exact spots on diseased cell surface, is underway. One of my friend did her project developing nanoparticle coated drug for diabetes and she got overwhelming results while testing in mice.

[urmiladuhan]

[QUOTE=richi;231691]your welcome

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Move on.

[urmiladuhan]

Good that i am confused ?? Or is comma missing after 'Good' ?? :D

Anyways, nanomaterial toxicity is a consequence of nanotechnology; these are related and no, m not confused between nanotech and nanotoxicity. Actually, u could have framed your question in a better way.



so is this your question??

Nanomaterial toxicity is sort of 'side-effect' of nanotechnology. A consequence of nanotech.
I can understand the detrimental effects of nanotechonolgy in terms of environmental hazard, toxic waste [which would have been a normal waste, had it not been nano] and related health issues BUT global warming ?? (and that too coz of nanotoxicity and not nanotechonlogy) :confused:

Again, how&why you think that nanotoxicity is directly related with global warming (increases or decreases GWarming)??

Do you mean that- Nanomaterial toxicity might discourage people to use nanotechnology which means use of other MICRO/MACRO-techs (less efficient ones) which further imply more global warming than that would have been by the use of nanotech??
If yes, logical felony i must say!! :)




:D :D Nanotoxicity is a detrimental effect!! Again what is your message here??



Enlighten me further!! :)




oh, dear Bhagwan! u must read posts carefully. i did put the word 'gist' which means making a 'a lil' of that 'a lot' without loosing much of the meaning. :)
Had you put some introduction in your first post, it would have been easier to understand your question precisely and decide if one has something to add to your understanding.
BTW, is you keyboard broken? :o
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Sunil, you may un necessarily be showing so much patience for this unfocussed discussion. Nanotechnology is an interesting topic otherwise.

[brahmtewatia]

Sunil, you may un necessarily be showing so much patience for this unfocussed discussion. Nanotechnology is an interesting topic otherwise.exactly my feelings... if i look at the opening post nd the way the discussion carried forward. reminds me of my 'ol thread >>> Expectations and... being Judgmental !!! (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27313)

this post makes a very good sense on this thread >>> http://www.jatland.com/forums/showpost.php?p=209462&postcount=8

[sunillathwal]

exactly my feelings... if i look at the opening post nd the way the discussion carried forward. reminds me of my 'ol thread >>> Expectations and... being Judgmental !!! (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27313)

this post makes a very good sense on this thread >>> http://www.jatland.com/forums/showpost.php?p=209462&postcount=8



Brahm Sir, my first post was a diligent effort; i had no intention to derail the topic or to indulge in stupid arguments. Urmila ji also pointed-out that query in the thread title is not valid or sort of wrongly stated and she was true.
I was not 'judgmental' in first reply :p. I replied/posted whatever i could make out of the query. Difference/relation between nanotechnology, nanotoxicity and/or global warming is not a rocket science. Consequence-cause, subset-superset is common sense; and still thread starter was adamant (and even condescending :( ).
Still, i tried to put things in a little prospective but the responses was not very encouraging. :D
Other members also posted 'something' but the initial absurd query was repeated again and again. :D [which made me almost sure that motive of the thread starter was not to clear her doubts]

Once we know what is 'expected' from us, it is always easier to deliver. ;)
i mean i may have been slightly late in reacting but ultimately the thread headed where it was intended to head by the thread starter.
I am a staunch believer in answering the frivolity with frivolity. It may make one look like a moron but saves quite a lot of time (and energy).:D

[bazardparveen]

Brahm Sir, my first post was a diligent effort; i had no intention to derail the topic or to indulge in stupid arguments. Urmila ji also pointed-out that query in the thread title is not valid or sort of wrongly stated and she was true.
I was not 'judgmental' in first reply :p. I replied/posted whatever i could make out of the query. Difference/relation between nanotechnology, nanotoxicity and/or global warming is not a rocket science. Consequence-cause, subset-superset is common sense; and still thread starter was adamant (and even condescending :( ).
Still, i tried to put things in a little prospective but the responses was not very encouraging. :D
Other members also posted 'something' but the initial absurd query was repeated again and again. :D [which made me almost sure that motive of the thread starter was not to clear her doubts]

Once we know what is 'expected' from us, it is always easier to deliver. ;)
i mean i may have been slightly late in reacting but ultimately the thread headed where it was intended to head by the thread starter.
I am a staunch believer in answering the frivolity with frivolity. It may make one look like a moron but saves quite a lot of time (and energy).:D



Agreed with sunil completely. I also feel the same.
Starter's intention was not honest...Otherwise nanotechnology is a good topic to discuss

[brahmtewatia]

Brahm Sir, my first post was a diligent effort; i had no intention to derail the topic or to indulge in stupid arguments. Urmila ji also pointed-out that query in the thread title is not valid or sort of wrongly stated and she was true.
I was not 'judgmental' in first reply :p. I replied/posted whatever i could make out of the query.
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It may make one look like a moron but saves quite a lot of time (and energy).:Dsunil, i n'vr said tht you were judgmental, nor did i say tht you wanted to derail the topic or involve yrself in stupid discussions... i only said tht this thread reminded me of my 'ol thread... पता नहीं क्यूँ मुझे आजकल अजीब अजीब से ख़याल आते रहते हैं.

p.s. : for sure you are not a moron, you dont even look like one.

[richi]

LISTEN UP !!!I DON'T WANT TO PERSEVERATE HERE BUT JUST BECAUSE U GUYS COULDN'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION U ARE DARTING OUT UTOPIC REPLIES ..THIS HAPPENS WHEN FINICKY MINDSET COMPELS TO TAKE THINGS THE OTHER WAY AND THAT HAS BEEN THE CASE WITH ALL YOU GUYS RECENTLY...


y y y must i modify my question ????when i know only some subject expert could have answered that but unfortunately there isn't any HERE:(...my mistake was to choose to speak up on wrong platform and before all u so called erudite jats !!!
nd nd nd "latthawal "(LATTHMAR HAHAHA)aur jo bhi hain conference main aana bhaiyon 4000 rs registration fees hai aayiyoo whan suniyooo jab mera HEAD OF THE DEPTT IS topic be BULWAEGA :rock !

ND PLS APP LOG JO BHI KAHNA CHAHEIN KAHEIN AUR BHI CRTICISE KAREIN ..APNI BUDHIMATA AUR VIDWATA DIKHAEIN......PLS ALL ARE INVITED KHOOB BHASAD MACHAO YAHAN CUS I DONT CARE I HAVE GOT THE LITERATURE NOW .

THANX:)$ "23 SKIDOO"