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rkumar
July 20th, 2010, 10:33 PM
Dear Friends,

I am hereby reproducing a write up by Air Marshal (retd) R K Nehra;

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Forget self respect, Indians do not even understand when they are being insulted, believes Air Marshal (retd) R K Nehra.

Like the individual, countries, nations and civilizations have their self-respect. The term is a bit of a wrong nomenclature; what is meant by 'self-respect' is that others should respect you. Let us examine the case of India in respect of 'self-respect', with the help of a few actual episodes:

Episode 1

In 2006, an Australian cricket team visited India. At that time, a senior Indian politician, Sharad Pawar was the Chief of the Indian Cricket Association, called the BCCI. He was also a senior minister at the Center. The Australian team won the series. The Trophy giving ceremony was presided over by Sharad Pawar. Normally, players vie with each other to get themselves photographed next to, or near the chief guest. However, an Australian player took the opportunity to physically push Sharad Pawar out of the photo frame, with the Australian captain watching gleefully. As if that was not enough, the Australian captain, with a bent index finger, signaled to Sharad Pawar to get moving, pick up the trophy and hand it over to him. The whole scenario was far too offensive and humiliating to be described in words; it was watched 'live' on TV by millions of Indians and others. These TV clips continue to be frequently shown on TV, even as late as in 2008. Now, offensive and boorish behavior, especially towards South Asians countries, is the USP of the Australian Cricket team; they always seem to enjoy it and get away with it.

But, what was the reaction of Sharad Pawar; he dismissed the whole episode of being of no great consequence. The whole Indian nation was aghast and there was a massive public uproar. Following that, a (mild) protest was lodged with the Australian Cricket board, who belatedly, expressed a sort of semi-regret.

Now, let us try visualize a different scenario, i.e. we imagine that India is a self-respecting country. It would have known that verbal messages for the Australian cricket team have no effect, except perhaps to motivate them to more boorish behavior. India would have arrested the Player and the Captain on some trumped-up charge (say drunken brawl) the Indian police needs no training for that. The two could have been kept overnight in a rat infested jail and given a lice-laced blanket — two normal things for Indian jails. The duo and Australia would have realized what third world countries are all about and it is best not to mess with them.

Next morning, hell would have broken loose all over the world, especially in the Sports press. Indians would have been dubbed 'barbaric'. There would have been calls to expel India from the cricket circuit: but, no one could have dared to exercise that option as all the money in cricket comes from the (crazy) Indians. Some top Indian top cricket official would have come up with profuse apologies and expressed how the whole thing was a big mistake and would never be repeated. As a sign of our sincerity, the concerned police official could have been suspended (for the day). Things would have reverted to the normal in a week or so. However, the Australians would have realized that India had come of age, and was not to be pushed around. It is quite possible that other South Asian cricketing countries would have sent us 'thank-you' notes on the quiet.

We may reiterate that the above is a totally imaginary scenario; there is no question of it ever being put into practice. The masters of Indian culture would never permit such a thing; it is against everything that India stands for — we are used to such humiliations.

Episode 2

In the 1990s, there was a coalition Government in India, under the leadership of the BJP. A very high profile socialist politician was the Indian Defense Minister. In the course of his official duties, he visited the USA. As per newspaper reports, the Indian Defense Minister was asked to strip at the airport, in spite of protests from the Indian Ambassador, or his representative. If India lodged any protest, it is unlikely that that reached the desk of any one important in the American establishment.

If any such incident would have taken place in India with the American Secretary of Defense, it is almost certain that the 7th Fleet would have paid a visit to Mumbai.

Episode 3

In early 2008, the Chinese Foreign Ministry summoned the Indian Ambassador in Beijing, at 2.30 am to hand over some silly message of no consequence. Moreover, the Ambassador happened to be a woman. Is that the time to call Ambassador of a major country like India? The intention of the Chinese in doing that was clear and need not be spelled out here.

The question is not why the Chinese called at that unearthly hour. The question is why the Indian Ambassador went; however, no one will ask that question. Are our diplomats not trained to notice when the country is being insulted, deliberately or otherwise? Of course, our protocol experts would quote chapter and verse as to why the Ambassador had to go; nation’s honor only comes later, if at all.

Comments

Do the above episodes convey a message? Of course they do. Do the Indian antennas receive it? Perhaps not. Indians even do not understand when they are being insulted. Does it call for a change in the situation and approach? Of course yes. Will it happen? Perhaps not. We continue on our chartered path; country’s honor can look after itself.

Excerpted with permission from Hinduism and its Military Ethos, By Air marshal (retd) R K Nehra, Lancer Publications.
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Will anyone like to contradict Air Marshal Nehra??? Will anyone site episodes where Indians stood up for self respect?

RK^2

kapdal
July 20th, 2010, 11:52 PM
Tried hard, but don't see any sense it. Quite bothersome to see senior defence officers with such naive and irrational views.

sunillathwal
July 21st, 2010, 02:25 AM
Tried hard, but don't see any sense it..

Well, after trying hard (very very hard)- only plausible explanation of such narratives from an Indian Air Marshal (Retd.), I can think of is that Mr. Nehra suffers from what some people call 'Bloody Civilians Syndrome'. Symptoms of this syndrome include: "A defense personal suffering from bloody civilians syndrome believes that self-respect, patriotism and courage are the qualities exclusive to the defense forces. Bloody civilians (Politicians, administrators and Diplomats among others) are void of any kind of self-respect or respect for their nation."

True story.


P.S. I have huge respect for Indian Armed Forces. :-)

kapdal
July 21st, 2010, 03:18 AM
Well, after trying hard (very very hard)- only plausible explanation of such narratives from an Indian Air Marshal (Retd.), I can think of is that Mr. Nehra suffers from what some people call 'Bloody Civilians Syndrome'. Symptoms of this syndrome include: "A defense personal suffering from bloody civilians syndrome believes that self-respect, patriotism and courage are the qualities exclusive to the defense forces. Bloody civilians (Politicians, administrators and Diplomats among others) are void of any kind of self-respect or respect for their nation."

True story.


P.S. I have huge respect for Indian Armed Forces. :-)

The one about Ponting-Pawar is the most hilarious...:). Let me paraphrase. A minister (Is Pawar a symbol of Indian pride? He is a joke of an administrator, and I am being very charitable) gets pushed around by boorish Aussies on a high after winning a trophy. And India's dignity has been challenged! The only way to set things "right" is to trump-up charges against the players and put them in jail, subjecting them to third degree. Whoa! I thought I was reading the manual of a totalitarian state!

And since the honourable Air Marshal defines self-respect as "others should respect you", one wonders who respects a nation that trumps up charges against foreigners and subjects them to torture to take revenge for imagined affront. Who respects a bully?

vicky84
July 21st, 2010, 06:44 AM
Next question is: Do Indians respect others? Do Indians know manners, etiquettes? If they don't then why they expect respect from others.

akshaymalik84
July 21st, 2010, 09:02 AM
Next question is: Do Indians respect others? Do Indians know manners, etiquettes? If they don't then why they expect respect from others.

No, they don't. Koi na karega te jabardasti karwa lenge. Tanne bera nhi kitne albaadhi balak se India k.:boxing

vicky84
July 21st, 2010, 09:08 AM
No, they don't. Koi na karega te jabardasti karwa lenge. Tanne bera nhi kitne albaadhi balak se India k.:boxing

haan...ek thread to albaadi balkan ke kissyan pai chal rehya hai :D :D ..

vir2703
July 21st, 2010, 01:18 PM
haan...ek thread to albaadi balkan ke kissyan pai chal rehya hai :D :D ..

Diversity is lies in the heart of India. And as you meet to people of different states, tribes, religions.
You will realize majority notorious youths are only in Haryana, Punjab and some part of UP, Bihar.

upendersingh
July 21st, 2010, 03:01 PM
R.K. Nehra like people are found in all countries. Those people, who have got something from their country, will praise their country, but lechers, dissatisfied, harassed of life and corrupts miss no chance to critisize their country. I can gauge the depth of wisdom of this so called Air Marshal by what has he written.
BCCI insulted whole Australia in Bhajji-Symonds Monkeygate scandal and recently former Australian Prime Mininster John Howard has also been nicely insulted as his nomination for ICC's vice presidency rejected by ICC. It is being considered that BCCI played an important role in the rejection of Howard. Though these incidences are post-abovewritten absurd of Nehra, but it is clear that no sensible person can write such things.
9/11 terrorist attack was the insult of whole America. In America, even a new born infant has the debt of Rs. 21 lac appx. on head and in UK and Australia this amount is Rs. 69 lac and Rs. 20 lac appx. respectively. While each Indian has just Rs. 8890 Rs. appx. If Nehra like people are present to talk eye-to-eye then it is useful to say something, otherwise India is largest democracy of the world. People has right to express their views, no one cares if the views are illogical.

singhvp
July 21st, 2010, 03:45 PM
It is really naive to hold a generalized view that Indians do not have self-respect. There are all sorts of people in every country. Can the author fact-fully establish that all the Aussies or people from other countries, if imagined to be dignified by him, are really self-respecting and worthy of respect?

Can he elaborate further as to what was the motive of calling the lady Indian Ambassador in Beijing (now Foreign Secretary) at 02.30 AM and how did it compromise her dignity? There could be some emergent situation concerning vital national interest; perhaps otherwise it is not a regular feature to call the envoys at odd hours. No country would like to contravene the Vienna Convention whereby a host country is bound by certain norms of protocol. Nor an envoy has a compulsion to attend any weird call at odd hours. Moreover, she may not be alone there in some lonely place.

vijay
July 21st, 2010, 05:34 PM
Sharad Powar's job was just handing over the trophy to the Aussie Caption. What the hell he was doing on that stage after his job was OVER ? The attention seeking politician didn't show any intention of moving aside and faced the consequences. Above all, he might have felt good because he remained in news for next few days.

Moreover, Sharad Powar can not be considered as Indian Pride by any means but he can surely be lebelled as emblem of corruption.

SALURAM
July 21st, 2010, 07:56 PM
sharad pawar abhi icc ke president hain aur unhe aise niyam banane chahiye ki agli baar kabhi kisi chif geust ko vaisi stithi se roobroo na hona pade. chahe vo kisi bhi desh ka kyon na ho. aur bhartiyon se jyada respect dena koi nahin janta.